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01:55.27randyg"<pahartik> al_: easy solution is to just activate logging on server Irssi and direct logfiles to "~/public_html/""  that seems like a "minor" privacy problem.  need a .htpasswd to go with it.  :)
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02:14.56benhhi !
02:15.08benhnobody around with an ibook G4 that can give me ssh access for a little while ?
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03:15.28randygbenh:  if you want to buy me an ibook g4, I'll be glad to give you ssh access to it.  :)
03:16.10benhtsk
03:16.41randygsadly, I lack one of my own.
03:18.32dj-deathyep
03:18.44randyghow about ssh access to my sparcstation 5?  :)
03:19.19dj-deathbenh: you need an account now ?
03:21.01benhdj-death: if possible
03:21.08benhdj-death: just some quick tests to do with the panel
03:21.13benhdj-death: (problems with the backlight code)
03:21.19benhdj-death: I need to be root tho
03:22.04dj-deathok
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03:43.22dj-deathtime to sleep
03:44.10simonrvnthank you dmwaters ;)
03:45.29randygblah.  when I plug in all the cards in my other box, the 5v drops from 5.13v to 4.90v.  stupid cheap power supplies...  amd that's with 0% cpu load and no drives.
03:56.43randyghrmm.  I have two identical motherboards.  One recognizes 512mb dimms.  One won't recognize anything other 128.  wtf?
03:58.58randygI know the 256mb dimms work, as I just pulled them out of a working box...
04:03.43randygif I have in the 3 256mb dimms and a 128mb dimm, it only recognizes 128mb.  If I unplug the 128mb dimm, it finds 768mb.  go figure.  lol
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04:32.32simonrvnwth
04:38.10simonrvntry re-ordering them?
04:41.57randygdoesn't matter...  I just finished searching my entire closet, and found the fourth matching 256mb dimm...  now it finds all 1gb.  I am happy.  :)
04:42.09simonrvnyay
04:43.38randyghrmm.  mount seems to have a bug and/or misfeature.
04:44.29randygit's giving the wrong error message
04:45.07randygif I just try mounting my CF card, it says "mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device".  but if I specify -t vfat, it mounts perfectly.
04:45.54simonrvnweird
04:46.18randygdualbox:~# mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
04:46.18randygmount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device
04:46.18randygdualbox:~# mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt
04:46.18randygdualbox:~# ls /mnt
04:46.19randygbootex.log  dcim  misc
04:46.39simonrvnweird
04:47.36randygyep
04:47.38simonrvncould be the driver for your cf card too
04:47.52randygdunno.  all I know is there's a bug somewhere.  :)
04:48.12Sam-I-Amm00
04:48.17simonrvnc0w
04:48.21Sam-I-Amg3 did its random lockup thing today
04:48.26Sam-I-Amsometimes it takes 10 days, sometimes over 100
04:48.30randygI haven't used this CF reader on a 2.6 kernel before...  found it in my closet while looking for the ram, figured I'd check to see if I had any pictures on the cards with it.
04:48.54simonrvnSam-I-Am: *sigh*. oh well
04:48.59Sam-I-Amdoesnt happen often enough to figure out heh
04:49.05simonrvnheh
04:49.08Sam-I-Amno panic, just han
04:49.09Sam-I-Amg
04:49.43Sam-I-Amso whats happenin
04:49.56simonrvnnot much. just fucking around
04:50.24Sam-I-Amyum
04:50.34Sam-I-Amtomorrow brings another monday
04:50.45simonrvnyup
04:50.57randyg*fluffs his tail then curls up into a little ball*  has pictures of the last christmas with my doggy on it.  :(
04:51.03simonrvnaaw
04:52.18randyghrrmph.  the other card still gives not a valid block device even with -t vfat
04:52.29randygand then works the second time
04:52.32Sam-I-Amfr0mat! heh
04:52.51simonrvndoh!
04:53.24randygso the real problem is they only mount the second try.  :)
04:54.41randygthis card is a lot more recent, and just has pics of our cats doing various silly things.  :)
04:56.03simonrvn:)
04:56.20Sam-I-Ammmm, sick still
04:56.30Sam-I-Ami didnt realize how much snot could reside in my head
04:56.40randyglol
04:57.08simonrvnheheh
04:57.38randygthe internal memory on the camera contains 4+ year old pics...  too bad I don't have any way to get them off.
04:58.29Sam-I-Amheh
04:58.34Sam-I-Amdoesnt mount as a drive?
04:58.42randygnot usb
04:58.53randygit's an old camera...  rs232 serial
04:58.58Sam-I-Amaieeee
04:59.08Sam-I-Ami dont even remember rs232 digicams
04:59.33randygit's a 1 magapixel, no optical zoom, compactflash cards
05:00.06randygand it's twice the size of my current camera
05:00.21Sam-I-Amwow
05:00.37randygmy current one being 3 megapixel, 3x optical zoom, macro mode, and a bunch of other fun things.  and I paid 5 times as much for the old one than for the new one.  :)
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05:03.10randygbut unless I can find an application that talks to the camera, no way to get the pics in the internal ram out of it.
05:03.26randygmy new camera, of course, just plugs into the usb port and works.  :)
05:03.50Sam-I-Ammine too
05:03.52Sam-I-Amnikon 4300
05:03.59randygOlympus D-550 here
05:04.17Sam-I-Amtechnology heh
05:04.34Sam-I-Amusb storage on linux doesnt seem particularly stable
05:04.41Sam-I-Am(on x86)
05:04.52Sam-I-Amhad all sorts of weird stuff happen
05:04.53randygdunno, has always worked for me
05:05.08randyghttp://bushytails.net/~randyg/p1010040.jpg  <== example of macro mode on my camera.  yes, those are ISA slots.  :)
05:05.51Sam-I-Amdusty
05:06.14randygheh.  the capacitors were far more of a problem than the dust.  :)
05:06.36randygI've been pretty happy with this camera...  takes sharp photos
05:08.15Sam-I-Ammines pretty good
05:08.59randygyours is fancier
05:09.02Sam-I-Amhttp://ionosphere.bigfeh.com/gallery/colorado-2004
05:09.04Sam-I-Amsome examples
05:09.05randygmine does everything I need.  :)
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05:10.37randyghrmm, looking at the specs, I don't see much of a difference...  and the wording of the 4 megapixels makes it sound like 3.  the words "effective", "image size", etc are used, and not "ccd size"  :)
05:10.46Sam-I-Amheh
05:10.55Sam-I-Amit does 2270xsomething i think
05:12.43randygI've found 3 megapixels to be plenty...  1 was inadaquate, but 3 is good for most things, as long as you have good optics.
05:13.22Sam-I-Amyup
05:13.26Sam-I-Ammy next cam is a dslr
05:15.05Sam-I-Ami like b&w
05:15.21randygfeel free to send me your old cam when you get your new one.  :)
05:15.25Sam-I-Amhahah
05:15.30randyg(feel free to send me the new one too, for that matter)
05:15.32Sam-I-Amyou are soooo funny heh
05:15.45Sam-I-Amwell, considering i just bought a house, buying any toys is out of the question for a lon time
05:15.53randygheh
05:16.06randygconsidering I'm dead broke, buying any toys is equally out of the question here...
05:16.08Sam-I-Amhttp://ionosphere.bigfeh.com/gallery/psu-bw
05:18.24Sam-I-Amheh
05:18.44randygyou must be more of the artist type than I am...  grayscale seems very unhelpful if color is available.  :)
05:19.38Sam-I-Amheh... thats why i like it
05:19.46Sam-I-Ambrings out other things in the picture that color usually masks
05:20.19randyglike?
05:20.43Sam-I-Amcontrasts
05:20.45Sam-I-Amtextures
05:21.02Sam-I-Amhttp://ionosphere.bigfeh.com/gallery/nature-092504
05:21.04Sam-I-Am^ kansas
05:21.11Sam-I-Amcolor, of course
05:21.16Sam-I-Amcertain things dont do well in b&w
05:21.21randygI'm not usually interested in contrasts or textures...  I want an accurate-as-possible representation of whatever I'm trying to archive.  :)
05:21.56Sam-I-Amwell, if i'm going to take b&w's i usually grab a color shot too
05:22.10Sam-I-Ammany of these photos arent for archives... they're just for fun
05:22.28Sam-I-Amphotography is one of those things i like to do that doesn't get enough cpu time, for lack of a better word
05:22.45randygheh.  I have about a trillion things I like to do that I don't have the time for.  :)
05:23.13Sam-I-Amyeah, me too
05:23.33Sam-I-Ami have infinitely more time since i got out of college and only work... but not enough
05:23.36Sam-I-Amalso money helps
05:24.29randyghttp://channels.debian.net/paste/243?wr=on&submit=Format+it%21  <== last time someone asked what I was interested in on a forum, that was my response
05:25.01Sam-I-Amhttp://ionosphere.bigfeh.com/gallery/nature-011804/tracks_bw_1
05:25.06Sam-I-Amanother b&w example
05:25.14Sam-I-Amshadows work better in b&w
05:25.36randygdoes your camera take photos at the same resolution for color as b&w?
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05:25.48Sam-I-Ami'd imagine so
05:26.23randygthen, from an information theoretical perspective, b&w contains less information than color.  :)
05:26.49Sam-I-Amsure
05:26.57Sam-I-Amleaves room for creativity
05:27.16randygand thus, from the point of view of archiving things (which is all I use my camera for), color is always better.  :)
05:28.58Sam-I-Amheh
05:29.20Sam-I-Amif i really wanted to get into photography i'd have a b&w film camera
05:29.23Sam-I-Amperhaps medium format
05:29.45randygI've always hated film cameras...  I want to see the photos as they're taken, not after I get back.
05:30.04Sam-I-Amthats a downside
05:30.05randygand I want to take as many photos as possible from every angle possible, without paying for the ones I don't need
05:30.12Sam-I-Ambut you can get more creative with film
05:30.29randygwhat can film do that a digital camera of suitable resolution can't?
05:30.51Sam-I-Amfilmy things
05:31.05Sam-I-Amdigicams are often noisy
05:31.38randyglike...  get accidentally exposed, have accidents during devloping, need darkrooms or expensive processing, umm...  what else is a filmy thing?  :)
05:31.44Sam-I-Amhaa
05:31.51Sam-I-Amsure, it has its downsides
05:32.03Sam-I-Ammany pros wont let go of their film cameras
05:32.40randygmany people won't use a computer since it's too new for them.  rumor has it some people still use rotary phones since they don't trust pushbutton ones.
05:32.47Sam-I-Amhaha
05:32.55Sam-I-Amor touchtone hasnt come to their neighborhood yet
05:33.03Sam-I-Ami know some places that only recently got off party lines
05:33.12randygdon't ignore the "sticking with what I know" part of not wanting to switch technologies.  :)
05:33.35Sam-I-Amheh
05:33.44Sam-I-Amwelp, cold meds are kicking in...
05:33.51Sam-I-Ami can breathe, but they're putting me to sleep
05:34.51Sam-I-Amon that note, its time for bed
05:34.53Sam-I-Amwork tomorrow... yayfun
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05:36.13randygcyas
05:37.13simonrvnstrange. thing just locked up for no reason.
05:37.31randygdunno
05:37.48simonrvnhow do you look up the IP of a machine in winbloze?
05:37.49randygif it was x86, I'd tell you to check the capacitors, but I don't think many ppc systems got them.  :)
05:38.03randyghrmm.  ping it.  ping should tell you.  :)
05:38.11randygI'm sure there's some command to do it, but I don't know offhand
05:38.24simonrvnok
05:38.37randygI'm pretty sure ping <hostname> will show the ip
05:38.56simonrvnyeh, i did a -b ping
05:39.08simonrvnstupid thing lost its lease....
05:39.27randygheh
05:39.36randygwas it a hard lockup?  magic sysreq?
05:39.59simonrvnyeh
05:40.09simonrvnafk, dinner
05:40.51randygcyas
05:45.04randyghrmm.  preparing to replace one of my old boxes with a new one...  should I put a 20gb drive in the new box now and use it until I'm ready to retire the old one, or just wait until I can pull the 60gb drive out of the old one?
05:48.01randygI'll put the 20gb drive in...  and probably just leave it in as the boot drive.  that way I can make sure the cobbled-together box really works before depending on it.
05:48.58randygproblem is, I don't have any easy way to get debian onto it, as it has no removable drives, and I'm not in the mood to power down one of my other boxes to put the base install onto the hard drive.
05:49.39randygand I don't think it can boot off a usb flash card
06:35.30simonrvnre
07:05.37simonrvnrandyg: install guide has some usb flash install instructions
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07:24.31Maxzorin123how is life on the PPC side of the aisle
08:20.09simonrvngood, as always
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08:45.53randygsimonrvn:  it had instructions on how to make a BIOS that doesn't support flash booting boot a flash card?  :)
08:45.57randygs/had/has
08:46.12simonrvndunno
08:47.09randygdoesn't matter anyway...  found a cd-rom drive to stick in it.  forgot I had one in the garage that the previous owner had spraypainted bright silver...  seems to work though.
08:47.51randygthe box seems stable, but is louder than hell...  both of my salvaged cpu fans appear shot.
08:48.34randygputting a finger on each fan makes it box quiet...  it's entirely the cpu fans making the noise.  power supply and hd are nice and quiet.
08:48.45randygas it is now, I can't even hear my other two boxes over it...  heh
08:49.16simonrvnsounds like this one... a bit
08:49.39randygit sounds like the bearings are completely shot on both of them
08:50.41randygI pulled them out of two identical computers, both of which were crashing due to the cpus overheating...  found them completely and totally clogged with dust.  vacuumed the dust out, but the bearings seem to have become quite dead...
08:52.39randygpoking them again, it's primarily the cpu2 fan...  the cpu1 fan is noisy, but not nearly as bad as the cpu2 fan.
08:52.57randygneed to see if I can find a pair of fansinks somewhere...
08:55.23randygbut first, sleep.  cyas
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09:02.55pahartikrandyg: well, my IRC is not mostly public anyway... no reason to keep it well hidden
09:02.59simonrvng'night
09:05.48pahartikrandyg: my IRC connections are redirected over SSH (between my server and proxy on shell of ISP... and now also between my portable computer and proxy on my server) only for compression effect
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09:25.48randyg*yawns as he was poking at his new box before going to bed*  which is faster?  sdram at 133mhz and cas 3, or 100mhz and cas 2?  133mhz at cas 2 is unstable, so have to pick one of the slower ones.  blah!
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09:44.28segher100/cas2 is faster access, but lower bandwidth.
09:44.57segherit's only marginally faster anyway (10% or so), so i'd go for 133/cas3, if i were you
09:45.34segherhrm, more like 5% even
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09:59.43Toxic-hi guys
10:00.43Toxic-maybe someone has a clue why I can't install MacOSX
10:01.14Toxic-it does not boot normally, some people said it might be influenced by linux
10:02.28simonrvnos x has to be second, with linux first. make the paritions with os x, leave free space for linux, and then partition that free space
10:02.59Toxic-simonrvn well i don't need linux at all now
10:03.19simonrvnthen you're in the wrong channel ;)
10:03.20Toxic-but the installation of MacOSX doesn't start at all
10:03.34Toxic-simonrvn I've been i other channel :)
10:03.54simonrvnbackup your data, format the drive
10:04.22Toxic-think it may help?
10:05.08segherprobably.  don't mix up the order of those two operations, though :-)
10:05.34Toxic-well i'll try to format
10:05.53Toxic-ant try to boot osx installation then
10:07.07simonrvnsegher: heh ;)
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12:28.43simonrvnweb*
12:34.17liiwithat hard to see? :P
12:34.25simonrvnhehe
12:34.40simonrvnhiya. doing well?
12:34.50liiwisleepy
12:35.01liiwibeen up since 5 in morning
12:35.12simonrvnit's only afternoon over there ;p. aaah, ok
12:35.22liiwiheavy lunch did not help
12:35.32simonrvnthat'd make anyone sleepy :)
12:35.50liiwibtw, managed to do anything to crossfire yet?
12:36.35simonrvnnot yet... kinda been staying away from dev stuff last few weeks...
12:36.55simonrvnwoops. gotta reconn
12:37.09simonrvnlilo(lilo@levin-pdpc.staff.freenode)- [Server Notice] hi all....we've had a bit of difficulty doing load leveling....if you're seeing this message, you're on kornbluth, and you can help us by disconnecting and by reconnecting to irc .... thanks!
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15:39.43bernhardDoes anybody run Debian on the new 15" powerbooks? Are difficulties to be expected?
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15:55.04bernhardAny pointer where I could go an look for this information?
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16:17.19PPC_Guyhello all.. Quick question.. Does the ppc release of debian have the same audio issues that ydl has?
16:17.35al_which audio issues ?
16:18.35PPC_Guywith ydl 3.0.1 on my wallstreet, I've never got it to work
16:19.07Q-FUNKbroken ALSA support is what you mean.  yes.
16:19.47Q-FUNKthe problem is not the distro, it's really poor support for some powermac soundchips.
16:20.03Q-FUNKin the kernel drivers from the ALSA project.
16:20.17PPC_Guyhmm, thankx Q-FUNK.
16:20.40al_you can use oss..
16:20.46PPC_Guyoss?
16:21.09al_you'll have to recompile your kernel
16:21.27PPC_Guyand sound will work?
16:21.40al_it should
16:22.18PPC_Guyokay, guess I'll go back to the debian site and figure out what I need to do then..
16:25.55Q-FUNKit might.  some sound hardware simply isn't well supported on either OSS or ALSA.
16:26.11Q-FUNKuntil recently, sound support on PPC was not exactly a priority.
16:26.24PPC_Guyhmm, that's what I'm afraid of... I would like sound for dvd's...
16:26.32PPC_Guyyou can say that again Q-FUNK
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16:27.10Q-FUNKsince the G% and the Mac-mini, a _lot_ of people are suddenly interested in powermac as a platform.
16:27.34Q-FUNKΓΆΓΆ, that's G5
16:27.46PPC_GuyGee, wonder why right? I think a mini is in the near future for me... This G3/300 is starting to show some age..
16:28.17Q-FUNKPPC_Guy: see http://www.iki.fi/q-funk/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi/2005/02/04#2005-02-04_ALSA_PPC_bounty
16:29.46PPC_Guythanks Q
16:30.10simonrvnQ-FUNK: yeh, really (re: mini and g5)
16:30.31simonrvna mini would fit in here as a server or router ;)
16:30.52al_you need 1.2ghz in a routeur ?.. :)
16:31.00al_s/routeur/router
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16:31.06simonrvnnah, low power, and quiet
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16:32.21PPC_GuyAnd the size of it? I would love one.. Just don't want to give up my adb keyboard... like it alot :)
16:32.41simonrvnyeh, i like the adb too
16:32.55simonrvnthis one is a power tower pro
16:33.22PPC_Guythe ptp'
16:33.28PPC_Guys are pretty cool machines
16:33.49simonrvni like 'em :). i love the case.. roomy
16:34.28PPC_Guyyup, next to the S900 that is for sure
16:35.04Q-FUNKS900?  akai?
16:36.38PPC_Guyakai?
16:38.02PPC_Guybrb
16:38.37sloopyQ-FUNK: S900 is a clone from supermac
16:40.55Q-FUNKoh
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17:06.53randyghttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5555354087&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT  <== sigh.  I need more money.  :(
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18:21.26randygsigh.  was thinking of starting an ebay store, but the wholesale prices I can get are exactly $2 less than the price they sell for on ebay...
18:41.42Orynrandyg: what you selling?
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18:51.01randygOryn:  I was thinking of selling...  umm...  "toys"  :)
18:51.32Orynbuzzy ones?
18:51.45randygand jell-lee too.  :P
18:52.18Orynahh
18:52.36OrynI wondered if you were selling ppc upgrades
18:52.47randygnope
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18:53.33randygalthough if you have any wholesale contacts for them, I might consider it
18:54.01salzbergrootroot
18:54.14randygthe only wholesale accounts I have aren't computer related.  :)
18:54.17Orynnaa, I might be after a g3 to g4 upgrade for my Imac
18:55.16randyg(although, quite a few newer toys do have microcontrollers in them...  so I guess some of my accounts are slightly computer-related now)
18:56.51Orynlol
18:57.04Orynbet they dont run linux :P
18:57.26randygdoubt it.  :)
18:57.42salzbergroot
18:57.53randygsalzberg:  having some form of mental difficulty?  :P
18:57.56salzbergz
18:58.16randygOryn:  proof there's microcontrollers in almost everything now.  :)
18:58.20salzbergdoh...sorry 'bout that.
18:58.21Oryngerman keyboard?
18:58.29salzbergtoo many keyboards..
18:59.07randyghopefully you weren't logging in as root with password rootroot?  :)
18:59.52randygtoo many keyboards?  I only have one keyboard for 3 computers...
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19:00.25salzbergnah - that was "dogged determination" in the eye of failure.  and yes i've heard of kvm switches ;)
19:00.30setdisdouzHello there
19:01.18setdisdouzI was wondering if installing Debian on my iBook G3 is as painful as it looks...
19:01.42Orynsetdisdouz: I have it on a g3 Imac 500
19:01.48randygsalzberg:  x2x works quite well for sharing mice and keyboards too.  :)
19:02.24PPC_Guysetdisdiouz, install is a breeze, just finished a woody install on my
19:02.24PPC_GuyWallstreet/250
19:05.09setdisdouzOk, so I guess that replacing my unused Mandrake will not take long... Any specificity for the partitions ?
19:07.14PPC_Guynot that I can think of.. but I'm a noob w/ linux on mac hardward
19:07.14setdisdouzIt seems there are a few problems on TiBook and iBook 2...
19:07.22setdisdouzOk
19:07.23PPC_Guyhardware.. sorry
19:08.17setdisdouzSo I've just to replace my Mandrake ?
19:08.39PPC_GuyWhat do you mean? Do you want to boot both? Or just debian?
19:09.28setdisdouzDon't want to boot Mandrake - But Mac OS will still be my main OS
19:10.06PPC_Guycan't help you there. I'm running strait debian with quik.. Tried to dual boot. but was a pain for me
19:13.01setdisdouzThanks. One more question : When I formatted my HD, DiskTool created very small partitions before my two main HFS+ partitions
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19:13.46setdisdouzBut it seems that Mandrake has used one of these to install yaboot
19:14.03setdisdouzDoes this can be the cause of any trouble ?
19:14.28PPC_Guyno.. on new world machines like you have yaboot is what you need to boot mulitple os's.
19:15.44PPC_Guysetdisdouz: http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/doc/yaboot-howto.shtml/
19:16.17setdisdouzWell, I meant, why are these little partitions for ?
19:16.23setdisdouzwhat*, sorry
19:16.31PPC_Guysmall partitions?
19:16.38PPC_GuyCan you be more specific?
19:16.52setdisdouzSomething like 512KB/1MB
19:16.56setdisdouzCan't remember
19:17.22PPC_Guyhmmm, don't know.. maybe someone else here can help
19:20.34setdisdouzWell, I was wrong, the partition is much bigger
19:21.05setdisdouzHere is what I get with a pdisk
19:22.12setdisdouz/dev/rdisk3  map block size=512
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19:22.37setdisdouzDevice block size=512, Number of Blocks=58605120
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19:22.51setdisdouzWell, guess it's too long
19:23.20setdisdouzThe bootstrap and swap partitions replaced another Extra partition
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21:30.33randygbbl, debian install.  (kvm's going to be switched to another box for a while...)
21:35.53setdisdouzHello there (again)
21:37.11setdisdouzSorry for the poor guys that were here a few hours ago, but has anybody a dual boot ?
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22:27.02randygdownloading 282mb of packages...  might be a while.  :)
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22:30.38randyggrr.  whichever mirrors.kernel.org mirror their load balancer always sticks me with is down yet again
22:35.25randygand this box wants to upgrade 292mb of packages...
22:38.35randygbetween my two boxes I'm pulling 546K/sec...  not bad
22:44.23randyginstalling distcc too...  let's see how a kernel compile goes with 2 866mhz and 2 800mhz cpus working on it.  :)
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23:07.28SaReVoKHi all .. anyone knowing a little about Open Firmware ?

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