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| 01:21.59 | Piru | yeah, everyone is too busy to irc. see. |
| 01:23.45 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 01:23.51 | Sam-I-Am | i'm cooking dinner |
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| 01:37.49 | randyg | too much driving! |
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| 01:43.50 | skel_home | hello =] |
| 01:43.53 | skel_home | does anyone know if the regular airport is orinoco gold or silver? |
| 01:46.24 | nusse | check the orinoco website |
| 01:46.50 | skel_home | its since been bought out by someone else =/ |
| 01:47.12 | skel_home | and they've been making new products under the same names |
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| 01:59.46 | a_monkey | ok. i installed alsa. now what? i can't seem to get audio working on this machine. |
| 02:00.36 | nusse | did you kernel detect any soundcard? |
| 02:00.47 | a_monkey | i don't know. how can i tell? |
| 02:01.00 | nusse | read /var/log/dmesg |
| 02:04.18 | a_monkey | nusse: i don't see anything about a soundcard in /var/log/dmesg |
| 02:06.28 | nusse | how did you install alsa? |
| 02:06.35 | a_monkey | apt-get install alsa-base |
| 02:06.54 | nusse | what kernel do you use? |
| 02:07.21 | a_monkey | 2.6.8 |
| 02:08.58 | nusse | use modconf to load snd modules |
| 02:09.22 | nusse | alsa-base are just some scripts, alsa itself is a part of the kernel |
| 02:09.55 | a_monkey | so apt-get install modconf? |
| 02:10.22 | nusse | no. you alreasy have modconf. its a debian tool to browse/load modules |
| 02:10.38 | a_monkey | so how do i run it? |
| 02:10.51 | a_monkey | bash: modconf: command not found |
| 02:12.30 | nusse | you have to be root. if it doesnt work, you will perhaps have to install it:) |
| 02:12.41 | nusse | i thought it was part of the base install |
| 02:12.44 | a_monkey | i get the same error with root |
| 02:12.50 | a_monkey | so i guess i hafta install it |
| 02:14.37 | a_monkey | modconf gives me a big list module categories, and i have no idea which one to select. |
| 02:16.52 | nusse | kernel/sound/ i guess |
| 02:18.09 | a_monkey | there are no disabled kernel/sound modules |
| 02:18.56 | a_monkey | snd-powermac is enabled, i think that's all i need |
| 02:19.05 | nusse | yepp |
| 02:19.46 | nusse | ALSA device list: |
| 02:19.47 | nusse | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.56 | nusse | this is what alsa logs for me. |
| 02:20.23 | a_monkey | where does alsa log this? |
| 02:20.38 | nusse | have you tried speaker-test? |
| 02:20.44 | a_monkey | nusse: noep |
| 02:20.46 | a_monkey | *nope |
| 02:20.46 | nusse | its just the kernel, dmesg eg |
| 02:20.57 | nusse | try it. how did you try if sound works? |
| 02:21.17 | a_monkey | so i type "dmesg eg" |
| 02:21.47 | nusse | no. its dmesg, eg means for example it think:) |
| 02:22.06 | a_monkey | oh |
| 02:22.10 | a_monkey | heh :) |
| 02:23.02 | nusse | you need an alsa capable audio player, in xmms you have to select alsa in output plugins |
| 02:23.11 | nusse | im tired, need to go to sleep. |
| 02:23.23 | a_monkey | gnigh |
| 02:23.26 | a_monkey | *gnight |
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| 05:32.39 | fluffy_wolf | nobody expects the spanish inquisition! |
| 05:35.41 | Sam-I-Am | hmm |
| 05:35.53 | fluffy_wolf | :P |
| 05:39.17 | fluffy_wolf | I have spare capacitors after doing my four boards, might as well put them in something. :) |
| 05:39.29 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 05:39.43 | Sam-I-Am | buildin stuff? |
| 05:40.09 | fluffy_wolf | I had four boards die with capacitor plague... |
| 05:40.30 | Sam-I-Am | crappy |
| 05:40.58 | fluffy_wolf | have fix three of them; need to prod at my desoldering station to un-clog the nozzle, then I'll do the fourth. |
| 05:41.01 | fluffy_wolf | s/fix/fixed |
| 05:43.42 | fluffy_wolf | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42013&item=6742050936&rd=1 <== example. "THIS MOTHERBOARD HAS A FEW POPPED CAPACITORS, BUT THE MOTHERBOARD WORKS PERFECTLY" |
| 05:45.13 | pahartik | fluffy_wolf: only keyboard is broken? |
| 05:45.35 | fluffy_wolf | pahartik: lol |
| 05:46.09 | fluffy_wolf | a large batch of x86 boards at one point were made with self-destructing capacitors... which are all now exploding. |
| 05:46.44 | Sam-I-Am | quality |
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| 05:48.27 | fluffy_wolf | each of my MSI 694Ds have 22 exploding capacitors... one of which I've fixed (replaced all 22), the other is the one waiting for me to re-fix the desolderer. |
| 05:48.37 | fluffy_wolf | pahartik: what about lintels? :P |
| 05:50.49 | Sam-I-Am | just replace all caps with ones 100x the size... it'll make the board look funny heh |
| 05:51.08 | fluffy_wolf | lol |
| 05:52.27 | fluffy_wolf | http://www.bushytails.net/~randyg/p1010002-small-a.jpg |
| 05:52.42 | fluffy_wolf | what the new caps look like. lots of soldering. :) |
| 05:53.28 | Sam-I-Am | mmmm |
| 05:53.36 | Sam-I-Am | at least they're thruhole |
| 05:53.50 | Sam-I-Am | smt is the suck |
| 05:54.49 | fluffy_wolf | yep |
| 05:55.41 | fluffy_wolf | through-hole is still a pain... those caps are in remarkably thick ground/power planes, and absorb an equally remarkable mount of heat... |
| 05:55.57 | fluffy_wolf | my 140 watt iron has a hard time heating the leads |
| 05:56.03 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 05:56.07 | Sam-I-Am | been there |
| 05:58.21 | fluffy_wolf | http://www.bushytails.net/~randyg/p1010001-medium.jpg <== whole board |
| 06:01.26 | fluffy_wolf | GRR. firefox died again. now everything I click opens up in an unclosable, unscrollable, x-window, that vanishes if you click on it. |
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| 06:03.30 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 06:03.46 | Sam-I-Am | i use opea |
| 06:04.05 | fluffy_wolf | one of these days I'll give up on everything mozilla-related... but I'd rather not support closed-source software. |
| 06:04.52 | Sam-I-Am | i use opera because it works on my crappy systems alright |
| 06:05.02 | Sam-I-Am | and the bookmarks file is easily transportablw |
| 06:05.58 | fluffy_wolf | I use opera any time I need to print anything, as I've still yet to make mozilla print anything properly. ever. |
| 06:06.30 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 06:06.32 | Sam-I-Am | welp, bed time |
| 06:06.34 | Sam-I-Am | i'm pooped |
| 06:06.41 | fluffy_wolf | its current stupidity is everything it prints is scaled 2-3 times vertically (no horizontal scaling), and this all the printouts are just the top 1/3rd of each page, expanded to fit the whole page... |
| 06:06.42 | fluffy_wolf | cyas |
| 06:06.48 | Sam-I-Am | he |
| 06:06.49 | Sam-I-Am | h |
| 06:06.57 | Sam-I-Am | spent today cleaning and organizin paperwork |
| 06:07.00 | Sam-I-Am | soooo tiring heh |
| 06:07.06 | fluffy_wolf | spent 9 hours in the car today |
| 06:07.06 | Sam-I-Am | i like bed... so warm and comfy |
| 06:07.10 | Sam-I-Am | wow, fun |
| 06:07.13 | fluffy_wolf | to do a 2-hour service call |
| 06:07.16 | fluffy_wolf | which I didn't get paid for |
| 06:07.19 | Sam-I-Am | ew |
| 06:07.32 | fluffy_wolf | tomorrow I'm filling out job applications. :) |
| 06:08.04 | Sam-I-Am | exciting |
| 06:08.21 | fluffy_wolf | sick of this job... |
| 06:08.26 | Sam-I-Am | welp, zz time |
| 06:09.01 | fluffy_wolf | cyas |
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| 13:34.25 | callipygous | hey |
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| 13:54.14 | Q-FUNK | rc4 out |
| 13:55.21 | simonrvn | @kernel |
| 13:55.45 | callipygous | links in woody |
| 13:55.49 | callipygous | where is the -g option? |
| 13:56.32 | grivell | callipygous: Was it you with the video card prob? (ever get it solved) |
| 13:57.16 | callipygous | um don't think so |
| 13:57.19 | callipygous | what problem? |
| 13:58.55 | grivell | Not sure, something about out of range horiz or something :) |
| 13:58.59 | callipygous | nope |
| 13:59.01 | callipygous | not me |
| 14:02.08 | callipygous | you know tho |
| 14:02.15 | callipygous | where a links gui version is for woody? |
| 14:04.28 | simonrvn | not in woody |
| 14:05.36 | callipygous | ooohhhh |
| 14:05.41 | callipygous | y not? |
| 14:05.46 | callipygous | have to compile it myself? |
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| 14:09.05 | callipygous | and umm know if links -g works on framebuffer on old world machines? or does it need X? |
| 14:10.02 | Bor_Ed | links2 works... though -g is X driver, fbdev has another switch |
| 14:10.36 | callipygous | ahh ok |
| 14:10.43 | callipygous | link2? woody doesn't have that does it? |
| 14:11.47 | Bor_Ed | links2 is only on sarge and sid I think |
| 14:12.52 | callipygous | damn |
| 14:13.15 | callipygous | but it would work with the framebuffer on a oldworld machine? |
| 14:13.30 | Bor_Ed | well works at least in here |
| 14:14.03 | callipygous | cool |
| 14:14.05 | callipygous | hmm |
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| 14:14.13 | callipygous | how should I go about installing it on woody? |
| 14:14.33 | Bor_Ed | try the links first if it'd have the required driver too |
| 14:15.08 | grivell | Aha! KJots looks like what I want. A way to keep irc people's questions organized :) |
| 14:15.28 | callipygous | nah don't think it does |
| 14:15.34 | callipygous | right |
| 14:15.35 | callipygous | :S |
| 14:15.50 | grivell | Anyone have a better way? (This let me create "books" and have "pages". Then I can export to HTML). |
| 14:16.00 | callipygous | im kinda new to debian, and was wondering thats the 'proper' way to remove (and add) services ? |
| 14:16.10 | grivell | callipygous: apt-get rcconf |
| 14:16.16 | callipygous | i could of course, remove the symlink in one of the /etc/rc#.d directories |
| 14:16.17 | grivell | Use rcconf :) |
| 14:16.31 | callipygous | or chmod -x the file it points to |
| 14:16.39 | callipygous | rcconf? umm really? a script? |
| 14:17.04 | grivell | update-rc.d too |
| 14:17.25 | callipygous | okkies |
| 14:17.31 | grivell | rcconf is a frontend for managing it. update-rc.d is the way dpkg handles it. |
| 14:17.36 | callipygous | used miBoot? |
| 14:17.38 | grivell | And you can use it too ;) |
| 14:17.48 | grivell | I use yaboot. |
| 14:17.48 | callipygous | fair nugg |
| 14:17.54 | callipygous | oh |
| 14:17.57 | callipygous | old world here |
| 14:18.10 | callipygous | umm yeah...so what exactly does the frontend do to manage it? |
| 14:18.32 | grivell | Just removes/inserts services for boot. |
| 14:18.50 | callipygous | well yeah, but how does it go about that? |
| 14:18.58 | callipygous | just curious.. |
| 14:19.03 | grivell | Calls update-rc.d ;) Not sure. |
| 14:19.06 | grivell | man update-rc.d |
| 14:19.57 | grivell | Their is a skeleton rc.d service I think. Might be worth looking into if you want to make your own. |
| 14:21.10 | callipygous | thanks |
| 14:30.42 | simonrvn | also the /etc/init.d/README |
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| 14:32.15 | callipygous | oh man |
| 14:32.20 | callipygous | how do bless a system folder :S |
| 14:33.29 | simonrvn | eh? where? |
| 14:33.40 | simonrvn | mock os, or yaboot's thing? |
| 14:33.54 | callipygous | miboots thing |
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| 14:33.58 | callipygous | probably the same ;) |
| 14:34.10 | callipygous | i created a folder called "System Folder" and put System and Finder in it |
| 14:34.14 | callipygous | but the folder won't bless |
| 14:34.41 | simonrvn | pull one of them out, and put it back in |
| 14:34.52 | callipygous | um ok |
| 14:35.17 | callipygous | nope |
| 14:35.24 | callipygous | just looks a regular folder |
| 14:35.36 | simonrvn | it should be... not familiar with miboot |
| 14:36.19 | callipygous | shouldn't be different |
| 14:36.38 | callipygous | maybe it b0rked |
| 14:37.17 | callipygous | i think i remember sn9 saying something |
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| 15:09.09 | Q-FUNK | 2.6.11-rc4 sounds rpomising. |
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| 15:53.58 | boci^ | hi |
| 15:54.27 | boci^ | I have a PowerMac 8200/120 machine |
| 15:54.58 | boci^ | Can anybody help me how can I install a debian into this little machine? |
| 15:55.33 | boci^ | I try to install NetBSD, gentoo but the machine not recognize boot floppy :( |
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| 16:29.17 | arekm | does anyone have solution for accidential trackpad touching while writting on keyboard? something like http://kerneltrap.org/node/645/3067 |
| 16:30.32 | sk1p | cehck the trackpad program from the package pwerpc-utils (iirc) |
| 16:35.10 | sk1p | well, with that you can disable tapping. afaik the mouseemu program supports what you want (disabling clicks only while typing) |
| 16:39.39 | simonrvn | almost have the 8500 back up. found out it was a bad PSU, and what i thought was a good cache card. that still needs testing |
| 16:40.00 | simonrvn | "trackpad notap" |
| 16:40.16 | bender-rw- | great tip, thanks a lot |
| 16:40.31 | bender-rw- | sometimes it pays to hang out on irc :) |
| 16:41.07 | bender-rw- | i've been fighting with that trackpad forever |
| 16:41.23 | simonrvn | boci^: keep at it. the floppy drive is *VERY* picky, and it's low level access, so you're bound to see more errors, more easily |
| 16:42.09 | simonrvn | boci^: new floppies, and re-download the images if you have to do that (the former is especially important) |
| 16:42.40 | jcm | hi, does anyone know how to configure nautilus-cd-burner to recognize my pismo dvd bay ? cdrecord sees it |
| 16:42.46 | boci^ | simonrvn: hmm |
| 16:42.54 | boci^ | simonrvn: because debianPPC support 8200? |
| 16:43.04 | boci^ | I'm not found any information about this... |
| 16:43.08 | simonrvn | jcm: from gnome-control-cent(re|er)? |
| 16:43.19 | boci^ | I'm not found any OS (except MacOS) wich support this :( |
| 16:43.39 | simonrvn | boci^: others do too, just that the floppy drive is very picky |
| 16:44.08 | simonrvn | linux and mock os have a driver to access it. the rom does too, but it's picky |
| 16:44.36 | boci^ | hmm |
| 16:44.41 | boci^ | what's "picky" :) |
| 16:44.43 | simonrvn | @sarge install guide |
| 16:44.44 | ravenbird | go see http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ for the install guide. http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/index.html |
| 16:44.50 | simonrvn | @+dict picky |
| 16:44.55 | ravenbird | Dictionary 'picky' marked by extreme care in treatment of details; "a meticulous craftsman"; "almost worryingly meticulous in his business formalities" |
| 16:45.10 | jcm | simonrvn: gnome-control-center has nothing like this :/ |
| 16:45.21 | simonrvn | then go play in gconf-editor |
| 16:45.46 | simonrvn | (yes, it's almost like a fucking registry) |
| 16:46.07 | boci^ | ok, so, I need to burn Debian CD |
| 16:46.22 | simonrvn | won't boot linux cd |
| 16:46.30 | grivell | equally. |
| 16:46.59 | boci^ | hmmm |
| 16:46.59 | simonrvn | grivell: i note a certain lack of <sarcasm /> ;P |
| 16:47.00 | boci^ | ok, so? |
| 16:47.02 | grivell | lol |
| 16:47.09 | boci^ | I urned BootX |
| 16:47.11 | grivell | </sarcasm> |
| 16:47.13 | boci^ | it's boot |
| 16:47.19 | boci^ | next step? |
| 16:47.20 | boci^ | :D |
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| 16:47.30 | simonrvn | @sarge daily snapshots |
| 16:47.30 | ravenbird | get your daily sarge PPC builds at http://people.debian.org/~luther/debian-installer/daily-powerpc-built/daily/powerpc/ |
| 16:47.38 | simonrvn | get the floppy24 |
| 16:48.07 | simonrvn | AFK. need some floppies ;) |
| 16:48.18 | boci^ | hehe |
| 16:48.18 | boci^ | :D |
| 16:48.19 | boci^ | ok |
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| 16:59.08 | jcm | nothing in gconf-editor > nautilus-cd-burner. in nautilud-cd-burner/doc/README.debian the maintener says it's necessary to load either 'cdrom' or 'sg' module that will produce data into /proc/sys... |
| 16:59.27 | jcm | what's the best module to load, since i'm using 2.6.7 ? |
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| 17:13.02 | simonrvn | both probably |
| 17:14.27 | boci^ | simonrvn: little question |
| 17:14.38 | boci^ | how can I load the drivers from floppy disk? |
| 17:14.56 | boci^ | (How can I get back the root floppy ? :) |
| 17:15.05 | simonrvn | during "do hardware detection" or such. install guide tells you |
| 17:15.27 | simonrvn | oh, use a paper clip to eject the floppy. the eject doesn't work for some reason |
| 17:15.47 | boci^ | paper clip? |
| 17:16.05 | simonrvn | little thing to temporarily fasten sheets of paper together |
| 17:16.09 | boci^ | I'm new in the PPC world :) |
| 17:16.20 | simonrvn | that's an office supply thingy ;) |
| 17:19.03 | jcm | sg did it, fine :-) |
| 17:20.12 | boci^ | hehe |
| 17:20.13 | boci^ | :0 |
| 17:20.14 | boci^ | thnx |
| 17:27.51 | t4 | i've got a 43p (7043-150) is it recommended to put woody or sarge on it ? |
| 17:30.52 | simonrvn | PCI or MCA? |
| 17:31.23 | t4 | should be pci |
| 17:32.41 | simonrvn | whichever works. start with woody, then try sarge |
| 17:32.57 | t4 | ok, tks |
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| 18:17.03 | fluffy_wolf | simonrvn: the paper clip exchange has got to be added to some quote list somewhere... :P |
| 18:20.21 | simonrvn | add it to the bot =) |
| 18:20.30 | fluffy_wolf | I'd need to RTFM to do so. :P |
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| 18:20.48 | simonrvn | like: @foo is <reply> bar |
| 18:21.48 | fluffy_wolf | blah! I hate not having money. there's some tools I could use going cheaply on ebay ($30 for the lot), but don't have the cash to buy them. |
| 18:21.59 | fluffy_wolf | and there's another 694d motherboard going for $0.99... |
| 18:22.03 | fluffy_wolf | ...can't afford it either. |
| 18:22.24 | grivell | $0.99 and you can't afford it? Get a credit card ;) |
| 18:22.31 | fluffy_wolf | can't. |
| 18:23.26 | fluffy_wolf | my father signed up for a bunch of credit cards in my name at one point, without my knowledge, then defaulted on all of them... I think I have about 5 more years before the 12 year statue of limitation expires and I'll have a usable credit score again... |
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| 18:25.53 | fluffy_wolf | and, of course, I get rejected for ANYTHING I apply for... hell, I got rejected for an "EVERYONE's APPROVED! Any credit OK!" card... |
| 18:27.18 | fluffy_wolf | can't get a new car, can't open a bank account (not even a savings account, much less a checking account), can't get a credit card, can't get a gas station card, can't get a sears card, can't get a paypal credit card or financing, umm... *tries to remember everything else he's been rejected for* |
| 18:28.23 | fluffy_wolf | grivell: short answer. no can do. :P |
| 18:28.30 | grivell | fluffy_wolf: :( |
| 18:29.00 | a_monkey | man, my ears feel weird |
| 18:29.34 | fluffy_wolf | a_monkey: wolf ears feel far less weird than human ears. (imho. :) |
| 18:31.16 | a_monkey | my left ear is fine, but my right ear is all plugged up feeling, so it sounds like everything is coming from my left |
| 18:31.57 | a_monkey | oh, and btw fluffy_wolf, monkey ears beat wolf ears by FAR |
| 18:32.05 | fluffy_wolf | lol |
| 18:32.36 | fluffy_wolf | dunno. I like wolf ears. :P |
| 18:33.08 | a_monkey | what made you think i had human ears, anyway? |
| 18:33.23 | grivell | a_monkey: you scare me. |
| 18:33.37 | a_monkey | lol |
| 18:33.54 | fluffy_wolf | a_monkey: dunno. I figured you meant monkey as in "code monkey", not as indicating you're a fur... |
| 18:34.23 | a_monkey | i'm a chimpanzee, to be specific |
| 18:34.38 | grivell | If you can't hear out one ear, turn the headphone volume up in that ear full blast :P |
| 18:35.28 | a_monkey | i have a cold and a really snotty nose, so maybe that has to do with the plugged up muffled right ear |
| 18:35.42 | fluffy_wolf | a_monkey: hrmm, so you are furry then? :) |
| 18:35.58 | grivell | ahh usually does. Still, never underestimate the power of loud music. |
| 18:36.13 | a_monkey | nope :) |
| 18:36.51 | grivell | KJots is just too cool. But it is missing so much. It could be a great FAQ html editor :) |
| 18:37.00 | grivell | Or how-to's, etc. |
| 18:37.01 | a_monkey | KJots? |
| 18:37.06 | a_monkey | what's KJots? |
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| 18:37.17 | fluffy_wolf | a_monkey: so you call yourself a monkey, and even have a specific species, but aren't a fur? :P |
| 18:37.22 | grivell | It is a hierarchical editor. |
| 18:37.29 | grivell | That has html export. |
| 18:37.35 | felipefonseca | good afternoon |
| 18:37.35 | a_monkey | it's a kde app? |
| 18:37.39 | felipefonseca | newbie her |
| 18:37.42 | felipefonseca | e |
| 18:37.48 | grivell | yeah, kde app. |
| 18:37.59 | a_monkey | felipefonseca: good afternoon yourself |
| 18:38.00 | felipefonseca | just installed debian-ppc on a powermac 8600 |
| 18:38.04 | felipefonseca | need some help |
| 18:38.29 | grivell | The command line app is hnb. That is ok, but I prefer kjots's html export better. |
| 18:38.43 | felipefonseca | "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault", after tried to apt ssh |
| 18:39.20 | fluffy_wolf | bad hardware? |
| 18:39.55 | felipefonseca | I installed ssh previously, without any problem |
| 18:40.27 | n1xt3r | Hi everyone. I've been trying to get my hotkeys to work on my ibook/G3. I was able to get the hotkeys working with pbbuttonsd, but apt-get removes pmud - what gives? |
| 18:41.53 | felipefonseca | anyone? |
| 18:46.27 | felipefonseca | now I tried "man dpkg" and got "segmentation fault" also |
| 18:48.16 | n1xt3r | Ok, silly me just found out why - Does anyone have a recommendation between the two (pbuttonsd or pmud) packages for an ibook? |
| 18:48.45 | fluffy_wolf | felipefonseca: <fluffy_wolf> bad hardware? |
| 18:49.23 | felipefonseca | fluffy_wolf, don't know. it's a powermac 8600. runs ok with macos |
| 18:49.24 | fluffy_wolf | that sounds to me like bad ram or some other system problem... |
| 18:49.28 | fluffy_wolf | hrmm |
| 18:49.59 | fluffy_wolf | what commands don't crash? :) |
| 18:50.04 | felipefonseca | fluffy_wolf, and it did work ok when I previously installed debian-ppc |
| 18:50.22 | fluffy_wolf | it could be a kernel bug I guess, but I haven't heard anything about one |
| 18:50.45 | fluffy_wolf | unfortunately, I'm really not the person to help, having never used it. :) |
| 18:50.47 | felipefonseca | fluffy_wolf, could it be anything wrong in the install process |
| 18:51.00 | felipefonseca | perhaps I missed something |
| 18:51.10 | fluffy_wolf | I doubt it. would take something very, very broken to make everything sig11... |
| 18:52.53 | fluffy_wolf | simonrvn: any ideas? |
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| 18:54.01 | n1xt3r | it's been real. l8r |
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| 18:54.19 | Softfailu | hi all |
| 19:00.34 | pahartik | felipefonseca: which kernel version? how long uptime? |
| 19:02.02 | felipefonseca | pahartik, installed woody |
| 19:02.12 | felipefonseca | pahartik, 2.4? |
| 19:02.45 | pahartik | felipefonseca: "uname -a", "uptime" |
| 19:03.25 | felipefonseca | wait a second... rebooting it |
| 19:03.40 | felipefonseca | uptime, less than 2 hours |
| 19:05.03 | felipefonseca | tried "apt-get clean", "apt-get autoclean" and "dselect update" when I got segfault with apt |
| 19:05.05 | felipefonseca | nothing |
| 19:05.22 | pahartik | fluffy_wolf: i had to upgrade from Linux 2.6.9 to 2.6.10 since GCC kept crashing when i tried to build things... that is my latest experience about strange behaviour |
| 19:05.55 | felipefonseca | pahartik, uname-a Linux (none) 2.2.20-pmac #1 (...) ppc unknown |
| 19:06.32 | felipefonseca | perhaps I should try installing sarge? |
| 19:07.34 | felipefonseca | couldn't find documentation about sarge netinst |
| 19:07.45 | felipefonseca | woody seemed easier |
| 19:08.41 | felipefonseca | anyone would help me on that? |
| 19:08.52 | felipefonseca | bootX, netinst, sarge |
| 19:19.19 | simonrvn | rm /var/lib/dpkg/available; dselect update |
| 19:20.06 | simonrvn | change kernel too, that one is full of security holes |
| 19:22.10 | felipefonseca | hm |
| 19:22.45 | felipefonseca | simonrvn, updating the kernel is beyond my skills, I guess |
| 19:23.06 | simonrvn | after you update fetch a pre-built one |
| 19:23.27 | felipefonseca | apt-get install kernel-something? |
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| 19:24.45 | _slim_ | there are ppc apt repos right? |
| 19:25.02 | grivell | ? |
| 19:25.17 | grivell | Debian supports x86, ppc, sparc, etc. |
| 19:25.28 | Piru | slim, all archs have the thing, naturally. |
| 19:26.07 | _slim_ | ok |
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| 19:27.30 | Q-FUNK | weird ppl tonight. |
| 19:27.51 | Stereo | indeed |
| 19:28.00 | Stereo | Q-FUNK: do I know you from somewhere else? |
| 19:28.14 | Stereo | oh, #joiito |
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| 19:39.45 | felipefonseca | reinstalled woody, now it works!? |
| 19:39.46 | felipefonseca | ssh ok |
| 19:44.59 | Q-FUNK | yup |
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| 19:45.51 | fluffy_wolf | blah. the 694d board I was thinking of bidding on just got a bid from someone else... and a quick check shows he runs a business replacing capacitors. |
| 19:48.05 | felipefonseca | another problem now |
| 19:48.11 | felipefonseca | X server |
| 19:48.38 | felipefonseca | Symbol fbPictureInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.o is unresolved! |
| 19:48.43 | felipefonseca | and... |
| 19:48.59 | felipefonseca | Caught signal 11. Server aborting |
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| 19:57.22 | boci^ | hi |
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| 20:36.56 | a_monkey | i can't seem to configure my system so that i can print via my deskjet 895Cxi |
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| 21:22.30 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: have you been testing Linux 2.6.11-rc4 already? |
| 21:23.05 | Q-FUNK | yes |
| 21:23.09 | Q-FUNK | I'm using it right now |
| 21:24.08 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: me too... it got built fine and works so far |
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| 21:49.12 | simonrvn | well, the 8500 is booting nicely :) |
| 21:52.33 | simonrvn | svenl: *just* tried the 2.6 floppies. the boot.img doesn't go past tux+mac boot pic thingy (the one with the grey mac rom background) |
| 22:09.31 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: just tried "suspend to RAM" and it also worked... |
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| 23:16.48 | simonrvn | @wb Q-FUNK |
| 23:16.52 | ravenbird | Welcome back Q-FUNK, o lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of chaos. |
| 23:17.13 | Q-FUNK | heh :) |
| 23:25.53 | simonrvn | :) |
| 23:26.24 | Curalton | bah, ravenbird discriminates against gamers |
| 23:26.44 | Curalton | who usually travel alongside the udp roads |
| 23:28.21 | Curalton | and who knows what can be done with imcp packets! |
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| 23:43.02 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 23:43.41 | simonrvn | bah, you know as well as i the common name is tcp/ip... and we're talking irc here, not bzflag ;) |
| 23:45.32 | fluffy_wolf | blah. installing dishes in the rain is far less fun than installing them in the sun. |
| 23:47.17 | simonrvn | it's very cute |
| 23:47.24 | fluffy_wolf | heh :) |
| 23:47.30 | simonrvn | fluffy_wolf: feeling liek a wet cat? ;) |
| 23:47.35 | simonrvn | like* |
| 23:48.41 | simonrvn | ...which also means i have some catching up to do on that box |
| 23:48.44 | fluffy_wolf | the customer's house I was just at had wolf pictures covering every surface... I asked whose they were, and they were the wife's, who apparently had a bit of a thing for wolves. I was going to ask if she happened to be a fur, but she had to leave before I did, and the husband didn't seem interested. |
| 23:49.27 | simonrvn | some people forget we're just hairless apes |
| 23:49.35 | fluffy_wolf | wolf paintings, wolf round-metal-plate-thingies, wolf clocks, wolf figurines, wolf statues, clothing with pictures of wolves,... |
| 23:49.43 | simonrvn | holy fuck |
| 23:49.52 | simonrvn | :) |
| 23:50.11 | fluffy_wolf | except for the husband's corner. he had nascar memorabilia. he didn't seem interested in wolves at all. |
| 23:50.21 | simonrvn | eew, cars |
| 23:50.37 | Piru | hehe |
| 23:51.01 | fluffy_wolf | if she wasn't already married, I would have been very interested in coming over that evening to "troubleshoot her dish"... |
| 23:51.36 | simonrvn | hehe ;) |
| 23:53.21 | fluffy_wolf | there was way, way more wolf-related things there than any house I've ever seen... |
| 23:54.18 | fluffy_wolf | bah. I should sew myself a fursuit, then show up at her door. :) |
| 23:54.34 | simonrvn | sounds like it. hmm |
| 23:55.14 | simonrvn | *i* wouldn't mind if a friend showed up at my door like that, but others might :/ |
| 23:55.23 | fluffy_wolf | heh |
| 23:55.28 | fluffy_wolf | feathersuit? :P |
| 23:55.38 | simonrvn | hehe |
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