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| 00:29.17 | wil | anybody get error messages concerning sources.list in reference to the cd when pferforming a apt-get update? |
| 00:29.42 | hhstnoc | wil : do you have the CD in your sources.list? |
| 00:30.49 | wil | I hased it out and not problems. The thing is I've never had issues. Are you saying that it was simply a matter of stickking the CD in and then apt-get updateing? |
| 00:31.04 | hhstnoc | yep. |
| 00:31.19 | hhstnoc | it wants to check all the sources, and with the CD being a source, it would want to scan the CD. |
| 00:32.27 | wil | thnks, but I've been been prompted to with this problem before. Hashing the offending line solved the problem. I don't have the CD as it belongs to my brother |
| 00:33.03 | wil | can't see any issues as it has updated beyonfd the CD releases |
| 00:36.56 | hhstnoc | yeah, |
| 00:37.05 | hhstnoc | i usually just run the update over the net, its easier. |
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| 00:47.01 | cricket | hey are there any wireless PCI cards for my powerbook that will work in linux sicne the airport extreme card in my powerbook isnt compatibnle |
| 00:47.14 | simonrvn | usb wifi cards |
| 00:52.27 | cricket | there are no compatible wireless cards that i can just slide into that card slot? |
| 00:52.58 | simonrvn | i don't know |
| 00:53.17 | hhstnoc | probably, assuming its a standard PCMCIA slot. |
| 00:54.22 | cricket | lack of wireless is only damn thing keeping me from stayin in linux |
| 00:55.05 | cricket | hey btw anybody know how to get Direct Rendering working in X so I can use opengl (powerbook ati card) |
| 00:55.50 | hhstnoc | yeah, you need the ATI driver...ATI's got one on their site. |
| 00:55.56 | hhstnoc | dunno if there's any PPC driver though. |
| 00:57.19 | dj-death | lol |
| 00:57.23 | ari | if you have a radeon <= 9200 you don't need a binary driver |
| 00:57.49 | hhstnoc | oh really? |
| 00:57.59 | simonrvn | there is no ppc drivers anyway.. not linux |
| 00:57.59 | ari | man radeon |
| 00:58.13 | simonrvn | (binary driver) |
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| 00:58.28 | cricket | ugh |
| 00:58.39 | cricket | i think i am higher than 9200 |
| 00:58.48 | ari | i know the new ibooks are 9200 |
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| 00:58.55 | cricket | current pbooks use 9700 |
| 00:59.01 | cricket | i bought mine last august |
| 00:59.04 | ari | powerbooks are 9700 though |
| 00:59.05 | cricket | anyway to check? |
| 00:59.07 | cricket | damn |
| 00:59.08 | ari | lspci |
| 00:59.29 | cricket | 9600 |
| 00:59.33 | cricket | so DRI is not possible? |
| 00:59.46 | ari | guess not |
| 00:59.51 | ari | better complain to ATI |
| 01:00.07 | simonrvn | "MAKE A PPC DRIVER" |
| 01:00.13 | simonrvn | *grin* |
| 01:00.20 | kimo_sabe | I've heard rumors of 3d on r300 chips, even on PPC, with some strain of the DRI CVS |
| 01:00.35 | simonrvn | dri.sf.net/ |
| 01:01.46 | ari | they have started work on the r300, but it's not that active |
| 01:01.52 | ari | and it's a huge task |
| 01:01.59 | ari | nobody's stepped up to fund it like they did for the r200s |
| 01:02.14 | ari | simonrvn: more like "fund some damn DRI drivers" |
| 01:02.21 | kimo_sabe | ari: Ive seen success posts on dri-devel |
| 01:02.43 | ari | i saw some a while back, but iirc the support wasn't nearly as much as the older cards |
| 01:02.43 | kimo_sabe | ari: somebody found they had WAY too much time on their hands and did something the hard way |
| 01:02.57 | ari | did they actually get the specs or did they reverse engineer it? |
| 01:03.04 | kimo_sabe | ari: brute force rev |
| 01:03.11 | ari | wow |
| 01:03.20 | ari | props to them, then |
| 01:03.30 | ari | ati won't give out specs anymore? |
| 01:05.27 | simonrvn | ari: that would be even better |
| 01:06.00 | simonrvn | but it's about as likely as nvidia or broadcom doing it... |
| 01:06.17 | ari | not really, nvidia or broadcom haven't released anything |
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| 01:29.20 | wil | quit |
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| 03:08.05 | n00b | hay what is a good PPC apt-get server |
| 03:08.21 | kimo_sabe | n00b: whatever mirror is good for you |
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| 03:08.51 | n00b | also do you have to install X-core for X to work |
| 03:10.03 | kimo_sabe | n00b: what do the dependancies say? |
| 03:10.11 | n00b | im not shore |
| 03:10.17 | n00b | ill look hold on |
| 03:10.34 | n00b | also what file is it to dellet a mirror for apt-get |
| 03:11.54 | kimo_sabe | n00b: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:14.03 | n00b | thanks |
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| 03:15.58 | n00b | when im setting up the Xserver what should i put for the mose if i have a lap-top |
| 03:18.02 | kimo_sabe | n00b: on a 2.6 kernel, /dev/input/mice. Maybe 2.4 too |
| 03:21.55 | hhstnoc | n00b: thats what i used on 2.4. |
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| 03:27.15 | n00b | what kind of computer do you have hhstnoc |
| 03:27.26 | n00b | also how do you start gnome |
| 03:27.34 | n00b | is it #startgnome |
| 03:30.10 | hhstnoc | startx |
| 03:30.16 | hhstnoc | i have a Powerbook Wallstreet |
| 03:30.16 | hhstnoc | well, had. |
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| 03:33.23 | n00b | whats better for PPC kde or gnome |
| 03:34.38 | ari | fixed gaim uploaded |
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| 03:34.45 | kimo_sabe | n00b: PPC is irrelevant |
| 03:34.48 | hhstnoc | n00b: depends on what you prefer. |
| 03:35.09 | n00b | what do i call it instead of PPC |
| 03:35.17 | kimo_sabe | n00b: "me" |
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| 03:35.27 | n00b | yes |
| 03:35.57 | n00b | hhstnoc i ran this apt-get install x-window-system gdm gnome synaptic so i thot i install gnome but i guess not |
| 03:36.57 | hhstnoc | why not? what's it doing? |
| 03:37.39 | n00b | i run startx and it gives me a error |
| 03:37.44 | n00b | i dont think it install gnome |
| 03:37.54 | n00b | and i like kde better so im jest going to install kde |
| 03:38.48 | hhstnoc | okay whats the error? |
| 03:39.07 | hhstnoc | its probably something with your xserver |
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| 04:11.44 | callipygous | fark |
| 04:11.48 | callipygous | we are a talkative bunch today |
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| 04:16.21 | callipygous | yo yo |
| 04:20.26 | hhstnoc | hahaa |
| 04:20.32 | hhstnoc | that was good |
| 04:33.25 | callipygous | it was? |
| 04:33.27 | callipygous | what was? |
| 04:35.57 | callipygous | hey hhstnoc |
| 04:36.09 | callipygous | whats with the topic?? |
| 04:36.15 | callipygous | never-ending IQ test? |
| 04:44.55 | callipygous | oh fark |
| 04:44.59 | callipygous | im being ignored again :( |
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| 05:15.20 | phyburn002 | hay what is a good CPU monitor |
| 05:16.42 | callipygous | ook |
| 05:16.57 | callipygous | for X? |
| 05:17.02 | phyburn002 | yes |
| 05:17.05 | callipygous | you can't go past hot-chick |
| 05:19.39 | phyburn002 | ?? |
| 05:25.03 | callipygous | can't find it |
| 05:25.48 | fluffy_wolf | blargh. wikipedia down. |
| 05:32.53 | phyburn002 | wikiw is the shit |
| 05:34.08 | fluffy_wolf | en.wikipedia.org apparently had the power killed to their servers, and the database didn't survive. |
| 05:34.44 | callipygous | phyburn002: sorry its "hot-babe" |
| 05:34.52 | phyburn002 | o ok |
| 05:34.54 | phyburn002 | thanks |
| 05:34.56 | callipygous | http://lwm.net/Articles/113644/ |
| 05:35.39 | fluffy_wolf | 404? |
| 05:37.09 | callipygous | ooh |
| 05:37.17 | callipygous | http://lwn/net/Articles/113644/ |
| 05:37.24 | callipygous | im typing that |
| 05:37.45 | phyburn002 | callipygous where can i get it |
| 05:38.05 | callipygous | i dunno, isn't there a link? |
| 05:38.37 | kimo_sabe | working link: http://lwn.net/Articles/113644/ |
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| 05:50.20 | phyburn002 | how do you install hot-babe |
| 05:50.43 | phyburn002 | im not shore what the guy is telling me to do |
| 05:50.56 | kimo_sabe | phyburn002: I hear it takes a lot of alchol, but I don't know |
| 05:51.06 | fluffy_wolf | lol |
| 05:51.13 | phyburn002 | l0l |
| 05:51.53 | phyburn002 | does any one know how? |
| 05:52.33 | kimo_sabe | phyburn002: if I knew how I wouldn't be here ;) |
| 05:52.34 | fluffy_wolf | download the .tgz, configure, make, make install? |
| 05:53.27 | callipygous | thats it |
| 05:53.34 | phyburn002 | configure |
| 05:54.38 | phyburn002 | ? |
| 05:56.47 | callipygous | make |
| 05:56.49 | callipygous | make install |
| 05:56.52 | callipygous | read the README |
| 05:58.12 | callipygous | esound-common libaudiofile0 libesd0 mol-modules-2.2.19 |
| 06:00.01 | phyburn002 | i did read the readme |
| 06:00.15 | phyburn002 | how do you make it so ever time you reboot it starts up in KDE |
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| 06:07.24 | phyburn002 | does any of your guys know how |
| 06:07.28 | phyburn002 | wtf is wrong with KDE |
| 06:08.13 | fluffy_wolf | that sounds more like a #debian question |
| 06:09.03 | Q-FUNK | or a philosophical question. |
| 06:09.11 | phyburn002 | well do you know how to start into KDE ever time you restart |
| 06:09.27 | phyburn002 | they took away my voice there because i asked a PPC quetion |
| 06:10.13 | fluffy_wolf | unless you do something very bad (tm), you're always going to need to log in on boot. |
| 06:10.42 | phyburn002 | o |
| 06:10.46 | phyburn002 | really ok |
| 06:10.59 | phyburn002 | cause on my PC its always starts up on gnome |
| 06:11.18 | phyburn002 | i dont have to log in |
| 06:11.28 | fluffy_wolf | in gnome, or in the gnome login manager? |
| 06:11.48 | phyburn002 | gnome login manager |
| 06:12.09 | fluffy_wolf | and you don't need to log in? |
| 06:12.29 | fluffy_wolf | i.e. it goes right to your desktop without ever entering a password? |
| 06:12.55 | phyburn002 | no you need to login |
| 06:13.07 | phyburn002 | threw the gnome login manager |
| 06:13.49 | fluffy_wolf | <phyburn002> i dont have to log in |
| 06:13.59 | phyburn002 | well i set it so you have to login |
| 06:14.03 | phyburn002 | nvm |
| 06:14.55 | phyburn002 | thanks for your help |
| 06:15.16 | phyburn002 | late |
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| 12:08.44 | callipygous | hey |
| 12:08.52 | callipygous | this is fucked |
| 12:09.06 | pahartik | callipygous: what happened? |
| 12:09.07 | callipygous | checking for pkg-config... (cached) no |
| 12:09.08 | callipygous | *** The pkg-config script could not be found. Make sure it is |
| 12:09.08 | callipygous | *** in your path, or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable |
| 12:09.08 | callipygous | *** to the full path to pkg-config. |
| 12:09.10 | callipygous | *** Or see http://www.freedesktop.org/software/pkgconfig to get pkg-config. |
| 12:09.25 | callipygous | root@toaster-7200:~/links-2.1pre15# echo $PKG_CONFIG |
| 12:09.26 | callipygous | /usr/bin/pkg-config |
| 12:09.39 | callipygous | not much more I can do |
| 12:11.03 | callipygous | pahartik: ? |
| 12:13.22 | callipygous | it looks like im doing the best i can |
| 12:14.49 | pahartik | callipygous: "dpkg --list | grep pkg-config" |
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| 12:16.15 | callipygous | i have it installed |
| 12:16.24 | callipygous | /usr/bin/pkg-config |
| 12:16.27 | callipygous | yup |
| 12:16.39 | Q-FUNK | odd |
| 12:17.36 | callipygous | yeah |
| 12:17.43 | callipygous | im guessing its links' shitty ./configure script |
| 12:17.52 | callipygous | and I can't even tell it to use directfb instead of fucking svgalib |
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| 12:25.28 | callipygous | jey |
| 12:25.29 | callipygous | hey |
| 12:27.11 | callipygous | fine |
| 12:27.13 | callipygous | be that way |
| 12:30.28 | callipygous | fucking fine |
| 12:30.28 | callipygous | yup |
| 12:30.28 | callipygous | see if I care |
| 12:30.58 | pahartik | callipygous: version "0.15.0-4"? |
| 12:33.31 | callipygous | nah, 2.1pre15 or something |
| 12:33.31 | callipygous | 0.15 wouldn't have graphics |
| 12:33.55 | pahartik | callipygous: why would "pkg-config" need "graphics"? |
| 12:34.16 | callipygous | oh, i thought u meant links |
| 12:35.34 | callipygous | 0.11.0 |
| 12:55.47 | callipygous | :( |
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| 14:50.51 | ioops | hi |
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| 15:52.19 | simonrvn | hello |
| 15:55.46 | sloopy | 'ello |
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| 17:25.43 | simonrvn | @hug sloopy |
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| 18:17.07 | mirak | do you manage to play dvd with a G3 400 ? |
| 18:17.26 | simonrvn | how about you try, hm? |
| 18:18.04 | pahartik | mirak: probably not... |
| 18:18.14 | mirak | simonrvn: I did |
| 18:18.30 | mirak | in fact I tried to play VOB files |
| 18:18.40 | mirak | audio is fine but video laggy |
| 18:18.56 | mirak | in fact I was exepcting it would consume less ressource than a divx |
| 18:19.04 | mirak | but it seems not |
| 18:19.15 | mirak | VOB files where on a hard drive |
| 18:19.21 | mirak | I tried with vlc |
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| 18:31.24 | pahartik | mirak: try with "gxine" and optimized "libxine1" |
| 18:32.04 | pahartik | mirak: and make sure it uses "Xv" display driver |
| 18:32.47 | mirak | ok |
| 18:32.49 | mirak | thanks |
| 18:34.22 | pahartik | mirak: when playing MPEG-2, "gxine" seems to be more efficient per CPU cycle than "MPlayer" |
| 18:35.39 | pahartik | mirak: i do not use DVD so often, just recorded streams from local DVB broadcast |
| 18:36.06 | simonrvn | mplayer is a hog.. |
| 18:36.22 | simonrvn | even CLI app... |
| 18:36.22 | mirak | I don't have a dvd player |
| 18:36.27 | mirak | dvd rom |
| 18:36.41 | mirak | on easytree.org they share stuff in dvd format |
| 18:36.45 | mirak | even vhs rips |
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| 18:42.17 | pahartik | mirak: usual MPEG-2 content takes 60-80 % of CPU on gxine, 70-90 % of CPU on MPlayer... CPU is that of iBook G4 at 600 MHz |
| 18:42.36 | mirak | ok |
| 18:42.55 | mirak | cpu upgrades are too expensive anyway |
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| 19:07.02 | pahartik | who uses XFCE4? |
| 19:09.32 | simonrvn | edit the xinitrc for xfce4. /etc/xdg/ dir or /etc/xfce4 dpeending on the version |
| 19:09.50 | simonrvn | the taskbar? |
| 19:12.40 | pahartik | simonrvn: i already inserted "#" before "xftaskbar4 &" in "/etc/xfce4/default.session" but it still gets started every time |
| 19:13.08 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.16 | pahartik | simonrvn: i only have "xfce4-session" in "~/.xsession.xfce4" |
| 19:15.34 | simonrvn | what version is this anyway? |
| 19:16.37 | pahartik | simonrvn: "xfce4 4.0.5-1" |
| 19:16.53 | simonrvn | ok |
| 19:18.26 | simonrvn | oh, it might be saved in your local session. you'll need to start it up, kill the taskbar, then make sure you save it |
| 19:18.34 | simonrvn | ...when you exit |
| 19:30.09 | pahartik | simonrvn: thank you... that seems to have helped |
| 19:30.15 | simonrvn | cool |
| 19:35.00 | pahartik | simonrvn: next thing would have been "sh -c 'sleep 5 ; killall -HUP xftaskbar4' &" on "~/.xsession.xfce4" |
| 19:45.25 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 19:51.18 | pahartik | simonrvn: by the way, i tested "Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 0c)" on PowerMacintosh 7500... it worked and performed really well |
| 19:56.08 | pahartik | simonrvn: http://zazu.vip.fi/~pahartik/NFS-performance |
| 19:57.20 | simonrvn | hm, interesting |
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| 20:00.06 | simonrvn | not surprising about the eepro100. did you try with the onboard eth on those (those that have one anyway)? |
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| 20:04.11 | pahartik | simonrvn: yes, but all of them are 10 megabits per second and half-duplex... |
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| 20:06.17 | simonrvn | ok |
| 20:06.19 | simonrvn | not bad |
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| 21:21.22 | vincentMX | is it possible to run kde on a PowerMac 5500 (oldworld) |
| 21:21.36 | vincentMX | 275 MHz |
| 21:22.25 | vincentMX | ? |
| 21:22.40 | pahartik | vincentMX: yes, if one likes to do such things |
| 21:23.04 | vincentMX | why would someone not? |
| 21:23.47 | pahartik | vincentMX: i prefer to run "pwm" on my PowerMacintosh 5500 |
| 21:24.17 | vincentMX | you have ppc 5500 too? |
| 21:25.38 | pahartik | vincentMX: as well as on my other workstations, except for iBook G4 that does have XFCE4 |
| 21:28.19 | pahartik | vincentMX: GNOME is nice too, but i do not feel like using that much resources for desktop environment |
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| 22:04.58 | vincentMX | gonna g0m bye! |
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| 23:02.57 | karim | hey |
| 23:02.59 | karim | I have a bug with usb |
| 23:03.01 | karim | when I unplug the usb key, the mac freeze |
| 23:07.55 | Oryn | did you unmount it |
| 23:08.52 | pahartik | karim: what kind of kernel? |
| 23:16.05 | karim | 2.6.9 |
| 23:16.23 | karim | pahartik, 2.6.9-powerpc |
| 23:16.55 | karim | I will probably do an upgrade to -10 |
| 23:17.16 | karim | I use this mac mostly remote, so kernel upgrades are not the best thing to do remotely |
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