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| 03:18.45 | binbrain | anybody have a problem with gnome icons being broken |
| 03:18.57 | binbrain | in the latest testing |
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| 03:49.43 | demon | anyone know why it is that all the debian project IRC channels are on freenode? |
| 03:53.51 | fluffy_wolf | because they are? |
| 03:53.58 | fluffy_wolf | because irc.debian.org points here? :) |
| 03:54.54 | demon | who would I need to talk to to recommend moving debian's IRC channels elsewhere |
| 04:04.44 | fluffy_wolf | you'd need to have a convincing argument why, first... |
| 04:04.58 | demon | because I think it's really disappointing that debian is showing tacit approval for freenode's idiotic policies by continuing to use their network |
| 04:05.24 | fluffy_wolf | and which policy don't you like? |
| 04:05.54 | demon | the one where lilo can randomly pinch any channel for no particular reason |
| 04:06.56 | fluffy_wolf | heh |
| 04:07.07 | fluffy_wolf | I'm not sure that's a debianppc related question. :) |
| 04:07.49 | demon | yeah, but when another channel I'm participating in gets pinched for no reason whatsoever, I think it's a valid one |
| 04:23.44 | simonrvn | pinched? |
| 04:28.30 | demon | yeah... he just barged in and locked it down, no explanation, no discussion |
| 04:33.53 | simonrvn | well there's been abuse of the tor projet. i have no idea if it's related. just saying what i know *shrug*. that sucks though :( |
| 04:34.47 | Stereo | I'm sure lilo did it just for fun |
| 04:34.50 | Stereo | he does that |
| 04:35.17 | Stereo | sometimes he's borred with running the network and stuff |
| 04:35.23 | Stereo | so he'll just eject a channel |
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| 04:59.32 | fluffy_wolf | lol |
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| 06:27.14 | pahartik | bod: "CONFIG_SUNGEM" |
| 06:27.46 | bod | ta |
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| 12:42.49 | karim | hi |
| 12:42.49 | karim | I have a stuterring sound problem |
| 12:42.49 | karim | when I try to play videos with vlc mplayer or xine |
| 12:42.49 | karim | mp plays fine |
| 12:42.50 | karim | mp3 or ogg |
| 12:55.11 | karim | I have a sound problem. The sound is stuttering with crackeling in the sounds, when I try to play a video on a a video player. vlc or xine or mplayer, or totem. with a powermac G3 |
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| 13:30.24 | karim | <telmich> karim: same here, when I use pmac/alsa |
| 13:30.32 | karim | <telmich> the dmasound module is told to do as expected, but that does simply provide oss-style audio |
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| 13:38.37 | karim | everybodies dead here ? |
| 13:38.39 | karim | :) |
| 13:44.24 | Stereo | yeah |
| 13:44.27 | Stereo | just hang around |
| 13:44.35 | Stereo | might get an answer later |
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| 15:50.46 | karim | I have a sound problem. The sound is stuttering with crackeling in the sounds, when I try to play a video on a a video player. vlc or xine or mplayer, or totem. with a powermac G3 |
| 15:51.05 | karim | <telmich> karim: same here, when I use pmac/alsa |
| 15:51.13 | karim | <telmich> the dmasound module is told to do as expected, but that does simply provide oss-style audio |
| 15:51.29 | karim | that's a paste from another channel |
| 15:52.01 | karim | maybe someone here managed to fix that problem if he encountered it |
| 15:52.12 | karim | maybe I don't use the correct module |
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| 16:23.19 | tinton | How do I find out which package owns a file on my FS? |
| 16:28.30 | tinton | OK, I found it, FAQ 7.4 |
| 16:28.49 | tinton | dpkd --search filename |
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| 18:24.46 | Petro | How do I get make-kpkg to make an initrd.img ? |
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| 21:03.12 | karim | anyone around ? |
| 21:03.56 | grivell | no :) |
| 21:04.23 | karim | ok bye :) |
| 21:04.26 | grivell | nah |
| 21:04.33 | karim | I still have a sound problem |
| 21:04.37 | grivell | Spill the beans. |
| 21:04.45 | Bor_Ed | get sb live value |
| 21:04.47 | karim | I posted a question here this afternoon |
| 21:05.05 | karim | Bor_Ed, I hesitated to bring my sblive here |
| 21:05.08 | Bor_Ed | it works on linux, dunno about mockos if you have one |
| 21:05.15 | karim | but I let it at my student home |
| 21:05.22 | grivell | Alsa sucks for Mac sound |
| 21:05.34 | grivell | Use OSS (you can use OSS emulation) |
| 21:05.45 | Bor_Ed | I have alsa and beige g3 (and 4400/200), both work ok with alsa |
| 21:05.57 | karim | I have b&w |
| 21:06.00 | karim | g3 |
| 21:06.10 | Bor_Ed | 2.6.11-rc3-bksomething and 2.4.27 something as kernels |
| 21:06.13 | karim | sound works fine with mp3 ogg, when I use amarok |
| 21:06.17 | grivell | dmamodule sucks too |
| 21:06.34 | karim | but the sounds stutter and crackle when I try to play a video |
| 21:06.53 | Bor_Ed | you don't have enough cpu power for the video |
| 21:06.57 | grivell | Bor_Ed: You have SB Live though with that alsa? |
| 21:06.58 | karim | are this the symptoms ? |
| 21:07.00 | pahartik | karim: are you sure you are trying to play audio at 44100 Hz sample rate and not 48000 Hz or 32000 Hz? |
| 21:07.06 | grivell | PMac driver and alsa have crackling. |
| 21:07.08 | karim | Bor_Ed, it was ok some weeks ago |
| 21:07.10 | Bor_Ed | grivell, had, as well as sb128 |
| 21:07.20 | karim | in fact it was ok at the begining of the week |
| 21:07.34 | karim | pahartik, how can I know ? |
| 21:07.47 | karim | pahartik, maybe that's a way to explore |
| 21:07.56 | karim | could you tell more about that ? |
| 21:08.12 | karim | grivell, ok |
| 21:08.14 | grivell | pahartik: Maybe that is my problem as well. How do I change this (in gstreamer, etc)? |
| 21:09.32 | karim | pahartik, hey oh |
| 21:09.38 | grivell | Come to think of it, my SB Extigy is the one crackling I think. But I believe PMac did too :) Probably is 44.1khz being used. |
| 21:10.00 | karim | how to change that ? |
| 21:10.06 | karim | is that an alsa parameter ? |
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| 21:10.17 | grivell | But ALSA driver with OSS emulation (and getting the apps to use OSS) fixes that for me. |
| 21:10.33 | karim | how do you do that ? |
| 21:10.52 | pahartik | karim: "audio.synchronization.force_rate:44100" in "~/.gxine/config" |
| 21:13.15 | karim | ok |
| 21:13.20 | karim | i try |
| 21:13.50 | grivell | Shouldn't that be 48000 |
| 21:14.27 | karim | audio.synchronization.force_rate:0 |
| 21:14.30 | pahartik | karim: also "Preferences > audio > synchronization > force_rate > 44100" when "Preferences > gui > experience_level > Expert" |
| 21:15.53 | grivell | karim: 0 = disabled. |
| 21:17.32 | karim | hum |
| 21:17.40 | karim | still stuter |
| 21:18.15 | karim | gam_server |
| 21:18.17 | karim | what is it ? |
| 21:18.37 | pahartik | karim: "srate=44100" for "/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf" |
| 21:19.01 | karim | mplayer takes to much ressource in comparison of vlc |
| 21:19.17 | karim | in fact I have this sound stutering on vlc even with the video disabled |
| 21:20.40 | pahartik | karim: i do not use VLC much, it does not play MPEG-2 PES content (unlike gxine and MPlayer) |
| 21:21.03 | karim | vlc is the most performant on my g3 |
| 21:21.23 | Bor_Ed | I'm pretty happy with mplayer here on g3/233 |
| 21:21.34 | karim | yes I know |
| 21:21.42 | karim | I don't know why I have this proble |
| 21:21.51 | karim | I use 4 128 meg rams |
| 21:21.53 | Bor_Ed | plays most of the formats and doesn't lag too much even on long divx/xvid clips |
| 21:21.58 | karim | could this slow down the computer ? |
| 21:22.02 | Bor_Ed | I have 160MB of ram |
| 21:22.23 | karim | in fact that 2*256 + 2*128 |
| 21:22.29 | karim | 786 mefs |
| 21:22.32 | karim | megs |
| 21:22.52 | Bor_Ed | I'm thinking of upgrading ram too, though first stops are disks and cpu |
| 21:22.56 | karim | ok how to use oss ? |
| 21:23.09 | Bor_Ed | modprobe dmasound_pmac |
| 21:23.11 | karim | Bor_Ed, considering the price of the imac mini |
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| 21:23.26 | karim | I am not sure it's worth thinking an upgrade |
| 21:23.33 | Bor_Ed | karim, cpu upgrade is ~150-200 usd and ram some 10's |
| 21:23.50 | karim | mac mini is 500 euros |
| 21:23.57 | Bor_Ed | 570 here :/ |
| 21:24.03 | karim | well that's the price I have sen in a discount |
| 21:24.08 | karim | dollars ? |
| 21:24.21 | Bor_Ed | eur |
| 21:24.22 | karim | there is the one at 599 euros with 80G hard drive |
| 21:24.33 | Bor_Ed | http://www.wasaware.fi/hinnasto.html |
| 21:24.35 | karim | that's probably that one |
| 21:24.36 | karim | ah |
| 21:24.49 | Bor_Ed | that's the 1.25GHz ver :/ |
| 21:25.22 | karim | its limited usage though |
| 21:25.28 | karim | without pci device at all |
| 21:25.38 | karim | and just one ethernet plug |
| 21:25.39 | Bor_Ed | well it has usb for extra gear |
| 21:25.47 | karim | ok |
| 21:26.00 | karim | but that's a nice initiative from apple |
| 21:26.21 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: and what is more important, IEEE-1394 |
| 21:26.24 | Bor_Ed | I have usb 2.0 card on this box though for external expansion... and still have 1 pci slot unused :) |
| 21:26.53 | Bor_Ed | pahartik, my cam, mouse and visitors gear doesn't have firewire... go figure :) |
| 21:27.23 | Bor_Ed | they usually drop by with usb thumb drives, usb cams and usb disks :o |
| 21:28.13 | karim | modprobe dmasound_pmac |
| 21:28.13 | karim | FATAL: Error inserting dmasound_pmac (/lib/modules/2.6.10-4-powerpc/kernel/sound/oss/dmasound/dmasound_pmac.ko): No such device |
| 21:28.17 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: damn that |
| 21:28.28 | karim | crap |
| 21:28.31 | Bor_Ed | pahartik, yea, usb pwnage :I |
| 21:29.25 | karim | Bor_Ed, doesn't work |
| 21:30.52 | Bor_Ed | karim, it's been removed from 'new' kernels :I |
| 21:31.42 | karim | arg |
| 21:32.10 | karim | removed or not built ? |
| 21:32.24 | Bor_Ed | not built really |
| 21:33.09 | karim | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-297244.html |
| 21:33.16 | karim | seems they have this problem too |
| 21:33.31 | Bor_Ed | gentoo... mmm funroll-loops.org |
| 21:33.53 | Bor_Ed | gentooers got ia32 flash player to work on moz though |
| 21:35.17 | pahartik | karim: did you unload ALSA modules before trying to load OSS module? |
| 21:35.40 | karim | no |
| 21:35.43 | simonrvn | ... |
| 21:35.43 | karim | I just stopped alsa |
| 21:36.14 | karim | simonrvn, what ! |
| 21:36.35 | karim | :) |
| 21:37.21 | simonrvn | @fartfish karim |
| 21:37.22 | ravenbird | karim: fartfish |
| 21:37.26 | pahartik | karim: maybe "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa force-unload" is enough for that |
| 21:38.01 | karim | it unload them, thanks |
| 21:38.31 | simonrvn | yay, i got the report i was waiting for :) |
| 21:39.26 | karim | yeppe, sound is ok now |
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| 21:58.38 | zigong | Hi, I'm trying to install woody R4 via network on a 7200, and I keep getting a corrupted libc6. Anyone had a similar problem? |
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| 22:19.52 | simonrvn | zigong: install sarge |
| 22:21.32 | zigong | simonrvn: Tat is exactly what I'm about to do :) thank |
| 22:21.49 | simonrvn | no, 3.0r4 is woody |
| 22:22.28 | zigong | Yes, 3.0r4 is what I'm having libc6 problems with |
| 22:22.49 | simonrvn | sarge is 3.1, what's about to get released |
| 22:23.15 | zigong | Yes, that what is running on my real machine |
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| 22:23.25 | simonrvn | BTW, how many times did you try fetching that libc6 ? |
| 22:23.38 | OmniColos | hello |
| 22:23.38 | zigong | 2 |
| 22:23.50 | zigong | But also tried from a CD |
| 22:23.53 | simonrvn | and did you restart the installation (selected from the menu), or reboot and continue? |
| 22:24.23 | zigong | Restart |
| 22:24.26 | OmniColos | I have a question about using WPA/TTLS on an ibook/airport, if anyone is knowlegable in that area... |
| 22:25.03 | simonrvn | not me. have no clue what WPA or TTLS even are |
| 22:25.18 | OmniColos | I've tried wpa_supplicant but it does not seem to support the airport |
| 22:25.39 | OmniColos | TTLS is a "secure" authentication system for wifi |
| 22:26.03 | OmniColos | its like pppoe where you use a username and passowrd system |
| 22:26.35 | simonrvn | what tls with an extra "t" ? ;) |
| 22:26.57 | OmniColos | hehe not quite |
| 22:27.10 | simonrvn | @lart aol proxies |
| 22:27.57 | simonrvn | stick around, there are some here that have used that stuff |
| 22:28.30 | simonrvn | zigong: i'd get some sarge flawpee (floppy) images, and install from there. |
| 22:28.38 | simonrvn | @sarge daily snapshots |
| 22:28.39 | OmniColos | will do... I'm pretty new to linux, and am using Ubuntu, but it is based on deb |
| 22:28.43 | simonrvn | crap |
| 22:29.05 | zigong | I'm downloading the netinstall CD |
| 22:29.23 | zigong | but I guess I will not be able to boot it |
| 22:31.02 | simonrvn | get your daily sarge PPC builds at http://people.debian.org/~luther/debian-installer/daily-powerpc-built/daily/powerpc/ |
| 22:31.03 | OmniColos | Ubuntu needs a ppc channel |
| 22:31.12 | OmniColos | :D |
| 22:31.22 | simonrvn | zigong: oldworlds can't boot from cd to linux |
| 22:31.46 | simonrvn | useful tough if you ever encounter a newworld box |
| 22:31.54 | simonrvn | though* |
| 22:32.26 | simonrvn | zigong: floppy24 images work, the other ones don't yet |
| 22:33.13 | zigong | I cant boot from cd, but possibly using bootx and a ramdisk image from the CD |
| 22:34.02 | simonrvn | if you have fresh floppies, use the floppies. easier. you'll need 3 at minimum: one each for net-drivers, boot, and root |
| 22:35.00 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, daily built hasn't worked in ages for 7200/8200, dunno if they work currently though |
| 22:35.12 | Bor_Ed | rc2 works ok though |
| 22:35.18 | simonrvn | yeh, true |
| 22:35.27 | simonrvn | forgot about the video thing |
| 22:35.39 | zigong | Yes, very annoying |
| 22:36.03 | simonrvn | yeh, rc2 then, sorry about that |
| 22:36.07 | zigong | Curously, I get video ok booting from floppies, not from bootx |
| 22:36.42 | Bor_Ed | bootx uses OF setting, I've been trying to dig the values from nvram but haven't had too much luck :/ |
| 22:37.26 | simonrvn | if you can fecth the ifno from nvsetenv and /proc right after a bootx boot, you can get info lost otherwise |
| 22:37.35 | simonrvn | meh. |
| 22:38.11 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, the video mode stuff isn't shown on nvsetenv nor on OF |
| 22:38.22 | simonrvn | other things are |
| 22:38.30 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 22:39.05 | Bor_Ed | I tried long enough to give up on that and bought this buggr expensive crappy card that doesn't even do 3d on linux/ppc :( |
| 22:39.18 | simonrvn | .... |
| 22:39.30 | simonrvn | support@ email getting spammed... |
| 22:39.31 | Bor_Ed | voodoo3/3000 with apple FCODE |
| 22:40.09 | simonrvn | fuck.. |
| 22:40.10 | OmniColos | voodoo3 expensive? |
| 22:40.15 | OmniColos | what year is this!? |
| 22:40.25 | Bor_Ed | 75 eur :I |
| 22:40.27 | Bor_Ed | this year :/ |
| 22:41.04 | OmniColos | does your board have agp? |
| 22:41.12 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 22:41.16 | OmniColos | pci? |
| 22:41.19 | Bor_Ed | yea |
| 22:41.41 | Bor_Ed | and apple store pci radeon 9200 with 128MB is a bit overkill on this setup |
| 22:41.48 | OmniColos | i think debianppc could support NV or ATI |
| 22:41.56 | Bor_Ed | ^ |
| 22:42.04 | OmniColos | you can prolly get an old AIW for that price |
| 22:42.05 | Bor_Ed | ati is supported |
| 22:42.43 | Bor_Ed | AIW would have to have apple FCODE (haven't seen any here) |
| 22:42.43 | OmniColos | like a 16/32 mb AIW and get vivo too |
| 22:42.43 | Bor_Ed | and NV is far from supported |
| 22:42.56 | demon | ATI makes versions with OF ROMs, don't they? at least of some cards? |
| 22:42.57 | OmniColos | is FCODE a rom feature? |
| 22:43.23 | simonrvn | modified forth used as a rom on various peripherals |
| 22:43.25 | Bor_Ed | FCODE is part of rom that enables OF to speak to the card during boot |
| 22:43.58 | simonrvn | when it scans the device tree in fact. even before boot. by the time you hear the boing on a mac, it's already done that |
| 22:43.58 | Bor_Ed | demon, self burned peecee cards work on mockos and on linux but not on OF |
| 22:44.11 | simonrvn | demon: yeh |
| 22:46.09 | Bor_Ed | if someone has rage128pro pci with even 8 megs of ram handy and want to donate, I can take the card :) |
| 22:53.22 | fluffy_wolf | Bor_Ed: I might, but I'm not sure it has 8mb. |
| 22:53.33 | fluffy_wolf | I'll trade it for a nvidia card with tv-out. :P |
| 22:54.22 | Bor_Ed | I don't have any nveedia here and never will have either |
| 22:54.59 | fluffy_wolf | do any other cards have working tv-out on linux? |
| 22:55.16 | Bor_Ed | rage128pro had that |
| 22:55.44 | fluffy_wolf | GATOS's page is very fuzzy on which ati cards tv-out does and does not work on... |
| 22:56.51 | fluffy_wolf | and ati's drivers are closed-source and unusably buggy, from what I've heard. |
| 22:56.54 | OmniColos | I know this is totally off topic but: http://xserve.berkeley.edu/eap/11-26_PM_COMPLETE.jpg |
| 22:57.05 | OmniColos | super mario mural from post-it notes |
| 22:57.22 | fluffy_wolf | OmniColos: heh. I know about half the people who did that. |
| 22:57.42 | fluffy_wolf | http://www.yikes.com/~pengo/8bit <== homepage for it |
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| 22:58.09 | OmniColos | very cool |
| 23:02.04 | fluffy_wolf | I had to ask them which building it was when they sent me the pics... that's the new engineering 2 building, which wasn't there when I was there. :) |
| 23:09.21 | OmniColos | I wondr why they were so anonymous about it?! |
| 23:09.29 | OmniColos | pheer of N? |
| 23:09.41 | fluffy_wolf | ucsc authorities are assholes. |
| 23:09.47 | OmniColos | gads |
| 23:10.09 | OmniColos | if someone did that at the art institute there would be mad cheering |
| 23:11.02 | fluffy_wolf | I'm surprised the police didn't pull them down. |
| 23:11.20 | OmniColos | prolly too busy with theyre DS's |
| 23:11.40 | OmniColos | their |
| 23:11.56 | fluffy_wolf | the campus administration there is composed of half-intelligence power-hungry beaurocrats, who don't care about anything other than getting their paycheck and grant money. |
| 23:13.07 | fluffy_wolf | and all of them believe college should be a good-little-robot training center, rather than a useful experience. |
| 23:13.21 | fluffy_wolf | and anything that doesn't promote good-little-robot behavior is strongly frowned upon. |
| 23:14.21 | fluffy_wolf | (I got fired for actually trying to teach my students something, rather than making them do pointless busywork) |
| 23:14.39 | OmniColos | ick |
| 23:16.11 | fluffy_wolf | bbl, need to head to town... have to install an extra receiver and a 34 switch, then go to staples and spend the last of my money on a hard drive, as pissed as I am at staples... |
| 23:16.27 | OmniColos | are they having a sale? |
| 23:17.40 | fluffy_wolf | 200gb for $59 |
| 23:17.59 | OmniColos | not bad :D |
| 23:18.12 | fluffy_wolf | I'm still pissed at them about the dvd burner. |
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| 23:18.31 | Q-FUNK | fluffy_wolf: I agree, the education field's real purpose is to produce robots, not mature humans able to think for themselves. |
| 23:19.08 | Q-FUNK | fluffy_wolf: I witnessed it first-hand back when I worked in the field, in 2 different countries miles appart. |
| 23:19.10 | fluffy_wolf | they made a typo on the online sale listing, showing the sale ending 5 days after it was supposed to. I went there with three days to spare, and they told me the sale ended two days ago, and wouldn't give me the sale price. Somehow it's my fault that they made a typo. |
| 23:19.43 | Q-FUNK | typical. |
| 23:20.06 | fluffy_wolf | Q-FUNK: exactly... |
| 23:20.23 | fluffy_wolf | bbl, going to be late |
| 23:20.28 | Q-FUNK | notice a trend? business is becomeing more and more like politicians: promising something, then blaming you for reminding them in public. |
| 23:20.36 | fluffy_wolf | (exactly to the education comments) |
| 23:20.45 | fluffy_wolf | lol |
| 23:21.00 | fluffy_wolf | bbl :) |
| 23:21.06 | OmniColos | cya FW |
| 23:21.19 | Q-FUNK | meanwhile, politics has become a huge PR windmill copycating all the usual business pranks a la Enron. |
| 23:22.03 | Q-FUNK | as my geekcode used to say: distrust both business and politics. |
| 23:29.20 | OmniColos | gentoo is rice: lol |
| 23:29.48 | OmniColos | well I burned rice the first few times I tried to cook it... |
| 23:30.16 | OmniColos | cleaning the pots was far harder than a reformat too |
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| 23:31.34 | sloopy | OmniColos: i use a steamer... |
| 23:32.35 | OmniColos | yep |
| 23:32.45 | OmniColos | "whatever works" is what I'll use |
| 23:33.05 | sloopy | <-- loves rice :') |
| 23:33.27 | OmniColos | actually, I disovered that rice in a pan is super easy... the trick is to use a very low flame after boiling for 2 min... |
| 23:33.28 | sloopy | <-- doesnt like rice burners... except mazda rx-7's ;') |
| 23:34.15 | OmniColos | rx7 was a masterpiece as was the last supra |
| 23:34.43 | sloopy | rice steamer directions : 2 cups rice 3 cups water, turn knob to 50 mins and cover, go on irc and start a flame war in #gentoo and come back and voila! its done :') |
| 23:34.51 | OmniColos | lol |
| 23:35.49 | OmniColos | I wonder if I would get kicked from #gentoo from even whispering Ubuntu.... |
| 23:37.25 | sloopy | maybe, i know on YDL mailing list mentioning Ubuntu will get you flamed if it isnt a constructive comment/question (i.e. why doesnt ydl have feature X? ubuntu does... maybe i should use ubuntu ) |
| 23:37.50 | OmniColos | well thats definately obnoxious |
| 23:38.07 | sloopy | yes it is, and yes it happens... |
| 23:41.08 | OmniColos | well I dig linux as a whole, its been really positive... the apps and the users are intelligent |
| 23:41.41 | OmniColos | it's amazing how much good stuff there is out there... |
| 23:42.04 | OmniColos | and I'm glad I'm not forced to use OSX on this ibook :D |
| 23:42.20 | sloopy | yeah linux like other OS's has its morons... (but with linux they are easy to spot cause they say things like 'i use gentoo cause its better' ;') |
| 23:42.35 | OmniColos | heh |
| 23:43.30 | OmniColos | I wonder if there is a usb 802.11x that i can use with WPA/TTLS... |
| 23:43.55 | OmniColos | I know that there are portable bridges, but I would still need an xternal ps :P |
| 23:44.24 | OmniColos | I may end up going the bridge route anyways... |
| 23:45.06 | OmniColos | it feels like linux/ppc is the arctic weather station in the linux kingdom.... |
| 23:46.06 | OmniColos | I was happy that there is even a Q2 port... tho it doesnt seem that there are any bots that I can use with it :P |
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| 23:49.45 | sloopy | Q2? |
| 23:49.48 | OmniColos | quake2 |
| 23:50.11 | OmniColos | even runs at 40-90fps in a 700mhz ibook :D |
| 23:50.22 | OmniColos | w 256MB ram |
| 23:50.59 | sloopy | ahhh |
| 23:51.23 | OmniColos | but like I said, the bots are .dlls :P |
| 23:51.30 | OmniColos | as are many of the mods |
| 23:52.04 | OmniColos | I would actually prefer q1 with painkeep to stock q2 ;) |
| 23:52.49 | simonrvn | i would prefer that you keep even a little on-topic |
| 23:52.49 | OmniColos | is there an ndis equivalent for ppc linux? |
| 23:52.55 | simonrvn | no |
| 23:53.10 | simonrvn | pointless. the drivers wouldn't work anyway |
| 23:55.54 | OmniColos | hopefully ttls will become more popular... |
| 23:56.06 | OmniColos | and someone will answer me humble prayers |
| 23:56.22 | OmniColos | its seems like a nice way to secure a lan |
| 23:56.27 | OmniColos | wlan |
