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| 04:59.13 | tinton | Is there a Battery Reset Utility that runs on linux? |
| 04:59.57 | tinton | I downloaded the Battery Reset 2.0 from the mac site, but I cannot get it to run on my tiny os9 partition. |
| 05:00.37 | tinton | See, the problem is that I don't have space to install stuffit on my 50MB mac partition, so I have to do everything from unix. |
| 05:00.53 | Roey | is Cell technically a powerpc processor? |
| 05:01.04 | Roey | (since it possesses one?) |
| 05:02.16 | tinton | I am able to uncompress the .bin file into .data, .info and .rsrc with macunpack, but when I copy these files over to my /mnt/os9 parition and boot back into os9, these files are unreadable. |
| 05:02.39 | tinton | Roey: I really don't know, but I really hope somebody here can help us! |
| 05:03.25 | Roey | ah |
| 05:03.35 | Roey | I don't use debian/ppc, but I feel your pain. |
| 05:03.40 | Roey | </clinton> |
| 05:04.21 | tinton | So then I tried to unpack the .bin with another mac, copied the files over the hard disk with linux, then rebooted again in OS9, but still I get the same problem, which is basically that the files cannot be opened because it's application cannot be found. |
| 05:04.35 | tinton | But at the same time I have another .sit file, that opens just fine. |
| 05:05.00 | tinton | I think it's a matter of how you copy the files over. Something needs to taken care of, and I don't know what it is. |
| 05:05.06 | tinton | Roey: what do you run? |
| 05:05.14 | Roey | debian/x86 |
| 05:05.18 | Roey | soon to be debian/amd64 |
| 05:05.30 | Roey | hopefully, if Debian ever decides to finalize it. |
| 05:05.47 | tinton | hmm, so what are you doing in this channel? Just grabbing some info on "Cell"? |
| 05:06.00 | Roey | I wonder if they make multicore, multisocket ATX motherboards? |
| 05:06.08 | Roey | (POWER architecture) |
| 05:06.19 | Roey | tinton: was interested in seeing other things |
| 05:06.36 | Roey | tinton: For example, why am I using x86 and not a dualcore or dual socket g5? |
| 05:06.39 | Roey | I don't play games |
| 05:06.47 | Roey | if I do then it is on my windows partition |
| 05:07.22 | Roey | (I have legal licenses to windows and games, btw... so I personally am upholding US copyright law) |
| 05:07.31 | Roey | er |
| 05:07.35 | Roey | not copyright |
| 05:07.42 | Roey | but you get it. |
| 05:07.57 | Roey | for a file server, why does it have to be x86 is all i'm asking myself |
| 05:07.59 | tinton | ah, see, that's exactly my approach: Windows a toy, I use it for studying/composing music too. |
| 05:08.26 | Roey | :) |
| 05:08.41 | Roey | I don't use it unless I'm forced to. |
| 05:08.43 | Roey | like at work |
| 05:08.47 | tinton | for a file server why does it have to be x86? As opposed to? |
| 05:08.48 | Roey | where I have to administer windows servers. |
| 05:09.05 | Roey | tinton: it can be a Sparc box runing Linux |
| 05:09.10 | Roey | tinton: it can be a PPC one. |
| 05:09.18 | Roey | tinton: it can even be ARM or MIPS |
| 05:10.28 | tinton | AT Work?? You work on a windows box? Gosh, I personally have refuse any job offers that force me infront of a windows box. |
| 05:11.50 | tinton | of course it can be any of the above. But you specifically asked why it had to be an x86 box. Why did you ask this? |
| 05:12.36 | Roey | I work on a Linux box at work |
| 05:12.46 | Roey | we're a flexible company because we're only 12 in the central office. |
| 05:13.06 | Roey | I asked because this is what I've been used to for the past fifteen years. |
| 05:13.33 | Roey | so I looked at Pegasos' systems |
| 05:13.37 | tinton | aha. I personally like the PPC for mulitple threads. |
| 05:13.37 | Roey | they don't have G5's at all |
| 05:13.42 | Roey | how so |
| 05:13.53 | Roey | do G5s come in dual-core versions? |
| 05:13.55 | tinton | It seems to be able to share the processor between procs much better than x86 |
| 05:14.12 | Roey | does G5 come in multi-scoket versions |
| 05:14.12 | Roey | ? |
| 05:14.20 | Roey | you can't exactly find non-x86 CPUs on pricewatch.com |
| 05:14.38 | tinton | dual-core? excuse my ignorance, but does it mean dual-cpu? |
| 05:14.52 | Roey | it means two cores in one CPU package |
| 05:15.01 | Roey | think one socket containing two cores. |
| 05:15.15 | Roey | IBM does this in with their POWER systems. |
| 05:15.26 | tinton | Oh WOW, see, i haven't been keeping up with technology lately, I'm in Brazil, you must understand (-: |
| 05:15.32 | Roey | =) |
| 05:15.35 | Roey | oh c'mon |
| 05:15.42 | tinton | So you can actually have 2 cpus in one! Cool. |
| 05:15.43 | Roey | brazil is at the forefront of open source acceptance |
| 05:15.55 | Roey | AMD and Intel are gong to ship them this year. |
| 05:15.57 | tinton | Of course it is. |
| 05:15.59 | Roey | second half of this year. |
| 05:16.27 | tinton | But it is also at the forefront of music, life, sun, caipirinha and spiritualism. |
| 05:16.36 | Roey | and medicine! |
| 05:16.52 | tinton | I'm starting to realize how much it's bad for you to sit in front of a screen 8 hours a day. |
| 05:16.58 | Roey | :) |
| 05:17.00 | Roey | aww |
| 05:17.02 | Roey | :) |
| 05:17.40 | tinton | or more, cuz i was spending way more than that. like those 12h sessions? those are killers... |
| 05:18.20 | tinton | pegasos? |
| 05:18.47 | Roey | they sell powerpc pc systems |
| 05:19.10 | tinton | what's their site? |
| 05:19.12 | Roey | brb I have to shower |
| 05:19.19 | Roey | google pegasos? :) |
| 05:19.26 | tinton | sure. |
| 05:19.28 | Roey | =) |
| 05:19.43 | Roey | (sorry just too tired to do it and I just closed the browser) |
| 05:19.49 | Roey | (plus I'm taking a shower now) |
| 05:19.51 | Roey | (well not NOW now) |
| 05:20.03 | Roey | of course, it'd be silly to chat from the shower |
| 05:20.14 | Roey | but I am merely saying that I will go to the shower in a few minutes |
| 05:20.21 | Roey | mm... chocolate. |
| 05:35.06 | tinton | ha. |
| 05:35.58 | tinton | I just had chocholate. Well, I'm hitting the sack. My brazilian girlfriend is in bed awaiting... |
| 05:37.05 | Roey | :) |
| 05:37.07 | Roey | ok |
| 05:37.07 | Roey | back |
| 05:37.09 | Roey | sorta |
| 05:37.11 | Roey | still at the computer |
| 05:37.14 | Roey | half sleeping |
| 05:37.24 | Roey | I heard "brazilian girlfriend" |
| 05:37.34 | Roey | *brazillian |
| 05:37.44 | Roey | brazil, brazillian (double the l) |
| 05:37.57 | Roey | btw how old ar eyou, tinton? |
| 05:37.57 | Roey | I am 24. |
| 05:38.06 | Roey | I am Roey, and I live in Maryland, USA. |
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| 12:24.18 | Bor_Ed | is sxga screen 1280x1024 pixels or something like that ? |
| 12:26.17 | jaska | sxga? hrm, 1400x1050 or so i guess |
| 12:26.25 | jaska | uxga is 1600x1200 |
| 12:28.35 | Bor_Ed | it's peecee display :/ |
| 12:28.41 | Bor_Ed | http://karju.uwasa.fi/cgi-bin/auction.pl?category=pc&item=1110272669 |
| 12:30.17 | jaska | yeah id guess thats sxga |
| 12:31.01 | Bor_Ed | the dell site states 14.1" sxga+ but no resolution |
| 12:31.39 | jaska | http://dret.net/glossary/sxgaplus |
| 12:31.49 | jaska | A Display Standard referring to a video adapter capable of a resolution of up to 1400 by 1050 pixels. |
| 12:32.00 | jaska | (well, in this case the controller can do more, but the display cant :) |
| 12:32.11 | Bor_Ed | hmm, that's supported on xf86 4.3.x ? |
| 12:32.47 | Bor_Ed | I'm really considering to get the dell instead of pb3400/233 |
| 12:33.25 | jaska | i dont know what display controller a c800 has, probably some mobility radeon |
| 12:33.38 | Bor_Ed | radeon M4/32MB |
| 12:36.03 | Bor_Ed | it'd be fun to beat wife for a change on q3a again :D |
| 12:36.22 | Bor_Ed | buggr mockos ver requires way too much HD space to be able to run on this box |
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| 13:17.34 | lenox | ciao a tutti |
| 13:17.46 | lenox | voi siete tutti persone che hanno installato debian su power pc |
| 13:17.49 | lenox | ? |
| 13:23.31 | neli | please speak english, not italian |
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| 13:36.43 | kayali | hi there |
| 13:36.54 | kayali | is anyone using Java on their ppc debian? |
| 13:45.57 | Bor_Ed | not anymore since the new moz doesn't work with blackdown plugin |
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| 15:23.09 | godless | hello, I'm experiencing instability problems on a new tibook g4, 2.6.9-powerpc. problems include reboots, and application crashes |
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| 15:32.40 | godless | I think it mostly happens, the reboots after "sleep" mode should kick in |
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| 15:42.01 | Bor_Ed | upgrade to 2.6.11 |
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| 17:13.38 | jc-denton | hi all |
| 17:14.02 | jc-denton | does anybody here run debian on a mac mini |
| 17:14.40 | Bor_Ed | buy me a macmini and I will :P |
| 17:16.23 | grivell | I do |
| 17:16.45 | jc-denton | heh |
| 17:17.02 | jc-denton | but im just thinking if its worth to buy one |
| 17:17.06 | jc-denton | my p3 debian server just died |
| 17:17.16 | grivell | No sound driver support yet |
| 17:17.41 | grivell | You can plug in SB Extigy or other USB sound device though |
| 17:18.09 | jc-denton | well |
| 17:18.19 | jc-denton | that will not be a problem for webserver |
| 17:18.30 | jc-denton | is it silent enough to keep in the room i sleep? |
| 17:18.38 | grivell | Oh, then it is for you :) |
| 17:18.45 | grivell | yep |
| 17:19.27 | jc-denton | sure? |
| 17:19.49 | grivell | yes. you can't hear the thing |
| 17:19.51 | jc-denton | grivell: which kernel do u run on it? |
| 17:20.17 | grivell | 2.6.10, Debian sources from unstable. But 2.6.8 Debian sources in testing work too |
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| 17:21.08 | jc-denton | ah thats nice |
| 17:21.15 | jc-denton | ah yes |
| 17:21.21 | jc-denton | g4 has altivec |
| 17:21.39 | jc-denton | if u just recompile the kernel, will it use altivec |
| 17:21.43 | jc-denton | or is that more complicated? |
| 17:21.47 | grivell | http://www.sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ |
| 17:22.15 | jc-denton | i saw that |
| 17:22.26 | jc-denton | but there is nothing about the altivec problematic.. |
| 17:22.28 | grivell | I think it is app dependant (like mmx, sse, etc) |
| 17:22.42 | grivell | altivec is for 3D anyway. |
| 17:23.03 | jc-denton | 3d? |
| 17:23.08 | jc-denton | so float point and stuff? |
| 17:23.15 | grivell | yeah |
| 17:23.34 | jc-denton | i thought also other applications like gzip can take advantage of it |
| 17:23.57 | grivell | The Debian images have altivec support. But most programs don't have code for it. mplayer probably the exception |
| 17:24.27 | grivell | Encoding/decoding apps can, but they have to be written for it. |
| 17:24.38 | grivell | Or compiled. |
| 17:24.50 | grivell | But maybe I am out of the loop on this one :) |
| 17:25.11 | jc-denton | but there are gcc options for it |
| 17:25.39 | grivell | Mac Mini is fast enough for most tasks. Except games (well, the games I use it runs well with). |
| 17:25.45 | jc-denton | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.45 | jc-denton | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.45 | jc-denton | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.48 | jc-denton | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.51 | jc-denton | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.54 | jc-denton | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.55 | jc-denton | heh |
| 17:26.03 | jc-denton | i own a gamecube and a dreamcast |
| 17:26.08 | jc-denton | so no problem with games ;) |
| 17:26.19 | grivell | lol, Gamecub and PS2 here. |
| 17:26.39 | grivell | NHL Live 2005. |
| 17:26.53 | grivell | Bring back hockey :( |
| 17:28.13 | jc-denton | lol |
| 17:28.18 | jc-denton | i hate sports games |
| 17:29.26 | grivell | Well, hope I helped you. I'm out. |
| 17:29.50 | jc-denton | yes thx |
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| 17:36.47 | ccv | hey google http://www.otomotivshow.com/ :) |
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| 17:37.05 | Bor_Ed | ookay :o |
| 17:37.22 | Bor_Ed | haven't seen spammers on this network before |
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| 20:00.50 | setepo | hi |
| 20:01.22 | setepo | in kernel 2.6.11, is included the support for sleep in ibook g4 ? |
| 20:01.46 | setepo | the patchs availables from http://gate.crashing.org/~benh/ only works on 2.6.9 |
| 20:02.59 | Curalton | from what i read this patch has been merged into .11 |
| 20:04.53 | setepo | so it works like in a patched 2.6.9, right? |
| 20:13.33 | grivell | setepo: yep |
| 20:13.44 | grivell | Unplug USB devices before sleep |
| 20:14.26 | setepo | oki, thanks x) |
| 20:14.30 | setepo | bies! |
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| 20:31.53 | niktaris | hi |
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