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00:10.34bacatehi all. i have a RS6K F50 model. which platform i must install?
00:10.57bacatethe processor is PowerPC 604.
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00:11.35thebugPReP I'm pretty sure
00:12.34thebugah scratch that, definitely CHRP
00:13.54bacatethebug: I've tried the CHRP (floppy), but doesnt work.
00:14.12bacatethe boot order is: floppy, SCSI CDROM, SCSI HD.
00:15.42bacatewhen it boots, the floppy light turn on, turn off and the aix in the hd boots.
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02:06.08Shadow_Ragehey
02:06.10Shadow_Rageanyone here
02:06.24Shadow_RageThis script does not detect services which need to stop.
02:06.25Shadow_RageIf you want to stop upgrade for the present, please answer the below
02:06.25Shadow_Ragequestion as No.
02:06.25Shadow_RageDo you want to upgrade glibc? [Y/n]
02:06.35Shadow_Rageshould I upgrade glibc?
02:07.01Shadow_RageI only updated coreutils
02:10.00Shadow_Rageand udev and some things
02:10.54Shadow_Ragealright seems to be fine
02:11.40Shadow_Rageph yeah.. duh
02:12.05Shadow_Ragecoreutils is pretty much the base of the system
02:12.05Shadow_Ragehuur
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03:37.08malenfantany reason why kernel-source-2.6.9 doesn't show up in apt-cache, but -2.6.8 and -2.6.10 do?
03:37.34Shadow_Rage2.6.9 was messed up IIRC
03:37.46Shadow_RageI had some serious issues with it
03:38.29malenfantahh... perhaps that's why I'm having to rebuild my system now :-)
03:38.38malenfantext3 filesystem went bonkers
03:39.01malenfantbut I had been using the kernel for about 2 months now
03:41.08malenfantguess I'll move to -2.6.10 or whatever is the latest :-)
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03:53.36hhstnocwhat's it got in it?
04:06.16ShadowRageargh
04:06.24ShadowRagewhere is my new linux kernel?
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04:18.01Shadow_Ragehttp://lelombrik6.free.fr/Photo/FANcooledCPU.jpg
04:31.51malenfanthehe
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04:44.40Shadow_Rageargh
04:45.06Shadow_Ragewith 2.6.8, I have no framebuffer on my pmac 8500
04:45.33Shadow_Ragesimonrvn: you around?
04:47.40Shadow_Ragealso
04:47.47Shadow_Rageis there Xorg for ppc?
04:48.09simonrvnShadow_Rage: ubuntu's .debs - debian, not yet
04:48.38Shadow_Ragesimonrvn: have you tried ubuntu on an oldworld pmac?
04:48.45simonrvnit works
04:48.47Shadow_Rageis it possible?
04:48.54simonrvnati cards like it
04:49.06Shadow_Ragewhat about the framebuffer?
04:49.17simonrvnwhat about it?
04:49.18Shadow_Ragethat the powermac uses by default?
04:49.30simonrvnfbdev driver. should work
04:49.37Shadow_RageI'm having trouble with that with a 2.6 kernel (finally got a vga adapter.. yay)
04:49.42simonrvnjust have controlfb built-in
04:49.43Shadow_Rage2.2 no issues
04:49.53Shadow_Rage2.6.8 no framebuffer
04:50.11Shadow_Ragealso, how do I set up keymaps?
04:50.18simonrvncheck the /boot/config-*, CONTROL should be =y
04:50.21Shadow_Rageeg, one that will use the apple keymap by default
04:50.25simonrvndpkg-reconfigure console-data iirc
04:50.53Shadow_RageCONFIG_FB_OF=y
04:50.53Shadow_RageCONFIG_FB_CONTROL=y
04:50.59simonrvnok
04:51.10simonrvnwhat's quik.conf say with append= ?
04:51.10Shadow_Rageyet all I get is a scrambled mess
04:51.39simonrvnget 2.4, then build yourself a 2.6 kernel (2.6.11)
04:51.52simonrvnapt-get install it
04:52.00simonrvn(the 2.4 one i mean)
04:52.08Shadow_Rage2.4 kernel?
04:52.16Shadow_Rage2.6.11 is out?
04:52.20simonrvnat least then you can see what you're doing ;)
04:52.23simonrvn/topic
04:53.05Shadow_Ragesimonrvn: umm.. do I select standard or mac-usb when selecting the keyboard type?
04:53.09simonrvnxfree86 is ok with fbdev. i'm using xorg because the ati driver is better in it
04:53.16simonrvnstandard
04:53.49Shadow_RageI have a matrox card from 1996 in my mac
04:53.59Shadow_Ragecant find a bios for it for ppc
04:54.11simonrvna "pc" card?
04:54.24simonrvndid you check their web site?
04:54.35simonrvnand you'll have to flash it from mac os
04:54.46Shadow_Rageyeah
04:54.52Shadow_Rageit's not even supported by matrox
04:54.57simonrvn(if you find a flash util that is)
04:54.59Shadow_Rageand I realise that
04:55.06Shadow_Rageanymore
04:55.26Shadow_Rageprob with old hardware.. companies have the tendency to ignore it
04:55.36Shadow_Ragelike I need drivers for my ME18 suttle mobo
04:55.40Shadow_Rageshuttle*
04:56.04simonrvnyeh, the ones that have been around a while still have it on their sites, allbeit hidden
04:56.05Shadow_Rageand a possible bios upgrade because it has issues booting linux and any NON WINDOWS OS (hrmmm ironic isnt it?)
04:56.14simonrvneew
04:56.23simonrvnbrb
05:03.33simonrvnre
05:06.19Shadow_Rageg2g
05:06.22Shadow_Ragedamnit
05:06.25Shadow_Ragelater
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06:04.02Mageshi
06:04.09Magesi would like some info
06:06.29Mageshow can i install a debian server on an imac g3 333 rev A
06:15.06xbaezhi
06:16.05xbaezin kernel 2.6.11 it's the support for sleep ibook g4
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06:55.44YorickChanhello
06:55.54YorickChani'm new to PowerPC
06:56.27YorickChani have a question
06:56.42YorickChancan you guys help me.... please, please
06:57.29YorickChani have a Mac G5, can debian running on ?
06:58.03YorickChanand i found from IBM have a OpenPower, it running on Power5
06:58.27YorickChanis Power5 also can running on debianppc?
06:58.36xbaezyes
06:59.29YorickChanis Power5 = G5??
07:00.07YorickChanxbaez, thankyou
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07:02.48xbaezyes
07:02.57xbaezjust read the manual for ppc
07:05.55YorickChanxbaez, thankyou very much
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08:02.20b33r_is there a way in gnome to make it enter powersaving mode or hibernate when I close my laptop?
08:02.58simonrvnthere's pmud applets i think
08:03.04simonrvn@tell b33r_ about search
08:03.22b33r_i wouldnt know what to search for
08:03.29b33r_someone just told me irl that its not possible
08:05.25b33ralso, I was wondering what happens to gnome when you switch to tty2
08:05.36b33rwhen i go back to tty1 it is back to cli
08:05.50b33rbut gnome is still runnning
08:06.00b33ris there a way to get back into it?
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09:14.57ravenbirdROOOOOOOOT has landed!
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09:17.22b33rhas anyone in here used gnome themer?
09:17.45b33rmore specifically gnome-themer-2.1
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09:28.53b33rwhat should I do if APM is not installed on the kernel i am running?
09:29.16b33ri did a netinst and did everthing correctly
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09:30.01b33rbattfink is real mad.. no APM to talk too
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09:32.21b33rsimonrvn you there?
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10:06.58pahartikb33r: build kernel with "CONFIG_ADB_PMU" and "CONFIG_PMAC_APM_EMU" enabled
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10:21.54[MA]MTM84|X|i know its uber n00bish to link bash qoutes, but... http://bash.org/?32857
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10:27.36kellysimonrvn,  you here
11:06.22kellycan anyone help me install a new vid card on an oldworld g3
11:18.33simonrvnkelly: start with lspci
11:21.13kellyok i did lspci and my device is there
11:21.53simonrvnso use that as info on what to load and build/modprobe
11:22.34kellythen i went to of and types devalian screen2 /pci/ATY,CLAIMVrPro
11:23.22kellyand then i did setenv output-device screen2
11:23.42kellythen i had to zap my pram toget video back
11:23.50simonrvnum, i wouldn't do that, stick in the full path
11:24.05simonrvnOF 1.0.5 doesn't like new aliases...
11:24.26kellynow im at a boot floppy prompt and have chrooted to my drive and im in /sbin trying to make quick re install
11:24.39kellyim in of 2.01e
11:24.50kelly2.01f*
11:25.13simonrvnoh yeh. forgot. not sure if they fixed it in that version
11:25.43kellyaccording to dev /pci ls /pci/ATY,.... is the correvt path
11:26.21simonrvnyeh, what i meant was don't use that alias you made to point the output-device at
11:26.21kellyquik is telling me "can not open /proc/cpuinfo!"
11:26.28simonrvnmount /proc
11:27.08kellywoah it just cant be that easy
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11:28.37simonrvnmount -t proc proc /proc
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11:29.47kellyok so my plan should work if i do this " setenv output-device /pci/ATY,XCLAIMVRPro" ?
11:30.09kellytheres an @f at the end...itdoesnt include that does it ?
11:30.43simonrvnshould. don't need the @f
11:31.05kellythank you
11:32.42simonrvnusually when you have just one device with a @ in it, you don't need to have it (even if you do have 2, some (older ?) machines don't need to have the @ specified)
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11:34.47kellyso i do quik -C /etc/quik.conf after mounting proc and chrooting my drives ..?
11:35.12simonrvnno need for the -C
11:35.13kellyit doesnt do output like lilo ?
11:35.19simonrvnquik -vf
11:35.22simonrvnor quik -v
11:35.49simonrvnpaste coming up, apologies
11:35.52simonrvnquik -v
11:35.52simonrvnSecond-stage loader is on /dev/sdd7
11:35.52simonrvnConfig file is on partition 7
11:35.52simonrvnWriting first-stage QUIK boot block to /dev/sdd7
11:35.52simonrvnMaking /dev/sdd7 bootable (map entry 7)
11:35.54simonrvnWriting block table to boot block on /dev/sdd7
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16:51.59citraldoes someone have an idea of the pci bus speed of an ibook clamshell 366 MHz? I read 66 MHz sytem bus speed, but I doubt this has to do with the pci bus speed
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20:03.07kellysimon you around ?
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20:07.22blkis there a possibility to use the negative b/w screen-mode on linux (esp. X)?
20:08.55al_mh ?
20:11.02kellycan frambuffer options be passed to the kernel from the quik prompt ?
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20:35.47arueterhi
20:36.36arueteri am installing debian at my ibook atm ...
20:38.18arueterbasic setup works well, i am just at xfree to get tvout working
20:39.01arueteri use the Xfree86config from http://djdeath.dyndns.org/~djdeath/XF86Config-4 as template
20:40.20arueterclone mode works basically, but on the internal lcd i get weird noisy lines
20:40.38arueterthe external monitor works fine
20:41.52arueterdoes anyone have a working setup with iBook vga-out?
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21:35.35gobbleswhats the command to reconfigure the x server
21:35.51dj-deathdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ?
21:36.12dj-deathor maybe xserver-common
21:36.24dj-deathI dont remember the pkg name
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21:39.05jc-dentonwoot debian installs almost as easy as osx on the macmini
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21:51.42gobblesi cant get x to recognize my new vid card
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21:58.10dj-deathgobbles: what's the card ?
21:58.50gobblesati 3drage pro pci/agp
21:59.34dj-deathyou might find some X configuration file for your card on google
21:59.40gobblesthis ow g3 has onboard mach 64.  and i put in the rage cause the mach doesnt play video worth crap
22:00.43gobblesif i type video=ofonly it boots but the xserver doesnt open it
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22:34.01gobblesdoes an append statement in quik read like append="video=ofonly" ? with quotes
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22:38.44bacatehi all.
22:39.45bacatehow do i know which debian to install in a rs6k?
22:41.04gobblesyou got an rs6000!!!!!
22:41.07gobblesgime
22:41.12bacatehehehhee
22:41.26gobbleswhy not use aix ?
22:42.13gobbleslet me know if you want tosell it
22:42.18bacateaix is installed, i want to aix > /dev/null e install debian.
22:43.00bacatein brasil? ;-)
22:43.13gobblesdepends on price
22:46.23gobblesmefas colaza
22:46.40gobbles:)
22:48.02bacatehumm.. i guess you will not help me, because if i dont get debian running in it (2 of them), i will trash it. hehehe
22:48.29gobblesi wish i knew
22:48.38gobblesi think its chrp
22:50.35bacatei could not find "dmesg" in aix (to check which processor i have). the only way was by smit.
22:50.55gobbleshmm
22:51.04gobbleslspci?
22:51.07gobblesnaw
22:51.22bacatesmit says that processor is PowerPC 604.
22:51.43bacateit doesnt help me so much. :-(
22:52.01bacatei have no idea what 604 means.
22:52.02gobblesoh then you want the standard woody-ppc
22:55.08gobbles604 is the processor type
22:55.19gobbles7xx is g3
22:55.36gobblesso you have a pre g3 oldworld mac
22:55.43gobblesbasicaly
22:56.41bacatei have build a cd, but it doesnt boot. the boot order is floppy, scsi cd, scsi hd. the cd drive lights, but the aix installed on scsi hd boots.
22:58.55gobblesi have an oldworld next to me, they dont boot cds unless their made by mac
22:59.04gobblesuse boot floppies
23:01.59bacateok, i will try floppies. thanks. :-)
23:02.19gobblesnp
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23:31.15*** join/#debianppc deadsmith (~matt@cpe-67-9-177-35.austin.res.rr.com)
23:55.52*** join/#debianppc Entity (~bandwidth@20.mbps.with.optimized.org)
23:56.55EntityHello is the powerbook's airport is supported ? (17" 1.5GHz G4 model)
23:58.23dj-deathairport extreme is not supported
23:58.24Curaltonthats airport extreme, and because broadcom doesnt release specs unfortunatly impossible

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