| 00:00.05 | cliffman | no, i don't use a scroll wheel much, even w/three button USB mouse |
| 00:00.27 | terpstra | i am a button addict, my normal pc's mouse has 15 buttons |
| 00:00.33 | terpstra | (counting the scroll wheel as 3) |
| 00:00.35 | cliffman | I use a USB mouse w/iBook most of the time, regardless of OS |
| 00:01.11 | meds | im fine with page down for scrolling webpages |
| 00:01.15 | meds | i like it better anyways |
| 00:01.51 | meds | only problem i have is the left/right arrows double as home/end so i cant alt+left to go back a page in firefox |
| 00:02.17 | terpstra | eh? on my ibook the 'fn' key + arrows = home/end |
| 00:02.41 | terpstra | so alt-left still works |
| 00:02.48 | meds | yeah and xev shows without the function button, it being left/right but it still doesn't work |
| 00:03.19 | terpstra | strange |
| 00:03.38 | meds | i'm sure it's somewhat easily fixable but i'm trying to get sleep and other things working first |
| 00:03.47 | terpstra | good luck |
| 00:04.22 | meds | i just like not having osx |
| 00:04.38 | meds | you can't do anything in osx other than drag stuff around |
| 00:04.57 | meds | and every program they want you to pay 10$ |
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| 00:26.24 | simonrvn | /msg ravenbird 3 buttons has the shiznit for mac mice and other one button stuff |
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| 05:02.15 | offroadgeek | hello, I'm running sarge on my 15" albook, and I need to change my laptops hostname to a fully qualified name (instead of 'miomac')... can I do this? |
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| 05:35.55 | meds | anyone using a prism3 usb wireless adapteR? |
| 05:37.46 | offroadgeek | orinoco card here |
| 05:39.47 | xbaez | what usb card wireless advice me for an ibook g4 ? |
| 05:39.54 | meds | i'm not having much luck with wlan-ng so i was hoping this would work: http://hostap.epitest.fi/ |
| 05:40.46 | meds | xbaez: i have this: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=10242&vpn=USB-400&manufacture=ELITEGROUP |
| 05:40.54 | meds | don't think i'd recommend it to anyone though |
| 05:42.27 | xbaez | why ? it's dificult configure it ? |
| 05:42.54 | meds | there's no inkernel drivers, you have to use wlan-ng |
| 05:43.26 | meds | who knows, it might be alright but i haven't used it much yet |
| 05:51.23 | xbaez | ok thanks |
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| 12:28.19 | gobbles | you alive simonrvn ? |
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| 12:29.38 | simonrvn | no. i'm undead. i'm a zombie |
| 12:29.44 | gobbles | hehe |
| 12:29.45 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 12:30.19 | gobbles | just thought id update you. i gave up pulled the card and went back to the onboard mach64 |
| 12:31.13 | simonrvn | ok |
| 12:31.49 | gobbles | i tried everything\after pulling the card, damn thing went right into x with no additional config |
| 12:32.21 | simonrvn | strange that it wouldn't work. if you're s oinclined, you can check if it has the right FCode by dev'ing to the device in OF, and doing a 'words'. if 'open' shows up, it should work. otherwise you're SOL |
| 12:32.28 | simonrvn | heh |
| 12:33.13 | gobbles | ya figured. im woundering, i got a similar mac with the monitor built onto it |
| 12:33.39 | gobbles | big thing with clear top...but its ow...it has a personality card in it |
| 12:33.42 | gobbles | mine doesnt |
| 12:33.55 | simonrvn | ah. might cause issues if it needs it ;) |
| 12:34.20 | gobbles | is there a co-relation with the personality card and making other vid cards work and/or what os you run ? |
| 12:34.28 | gobbles | ie would osx run it better ? |
| 12:34.40 | simonrvn | no, that's a h/w thing. |
| 12:35.12 | simonrvn | i'm not sure ('cause i don't remember) but it does cause problems if it doesn't have it and it needs one |
| 12:36.06 | gobbles | i was beginning to think so, cause the other one has the monitor connected to the personality card\ |
| 12:36.20 | simonrvn | ok |
| 12:36.30 | raffi | has anybody a idea why a as (with target powerpc64) does not care when i assemble with -mppc32? |
| 12:36.39 | gobbles | but they have the exact same of version 2.01f |
| 12:36.54 | raffi | do i have to build a pure ppc32 as? |
| 12:36.57 | simonrvn | raffi: um. think about it |
| 12:38.05 | raffi | well, i think it should be able to do this |
| 12:38.57 | simonrvn | i'm not too clueful about this, but see if it's getting overridden by the defaults or something |
| 12:43.26 | raffi | mh |
| 12:45.07 | simonrvn | sorry :/ |
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| 12:47.34 | raffi | np |
| 12:48.09 | raffi | just checking if a ibm 7017-S7A will run under a ppc(32) linux kernel |
| 12:48.28 | raffi | since i have these problems with the ppc64 kernel |
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| 12:57.32 | gobbles | xkill |
| 12:57.54 | simonrvn_ | not here you don't ! ;p |
| 12:58.47 | gobbles | hehe |
| 12:58.53 | gobbles | wrong window |
| 12:59.05 | gobbles | you know im loving life |
| 12:59.38 | gobbles | mac with debian finalay presents a challenge |
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| 17:15.17 | snooo | could someone help me? i'm having a few troubles trying to install debian onto a G3 Powermac. Its giving me a through strange errors |
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| 17:21.56 | snooo | anybody? |
| 17:24.59 | dj-death | yes |
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| 18:31.42 | Madkiss | Hi all. |
| 18:32.07 | al_ | hi. |
| 18:34.37 | Madkiss | Has somebody tried to document all the different steps that were undertaken so far to get Broadcom to release some Airport-drivers? |
| 18:49.36 | pahartik | Madkiss: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.802.11b.html#Airport |
| 18:51.07 | pahartik | Madkiss: ...and it has got very little to do with Broadcom |
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| 19:22.28 | Madkiss | pahartik: Isn't BC the AE producer? |
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| 19:36.11 | Madkiss | Oh, I meant Airport Extreme, sorry |
| 19:37.06 | Madkiss | erm, Express. of course. |
| 19:39.28 | Madkiss | The real interesting question in this case seems to be "Why does Broadcom refuse to release Airport Express drivers" |
| 19:44.28 | pahartik | Madkiss: Airport Extreme adapter is based on some Broadcom chip, they do not want to release specifications because radio is controlled by software |
| 19:46.49 | Madkiss | So it's the same strange reason that Intel had to not publish Centrino drivers for some time now? |
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| 20:47.36 | dchilton | I'm having trouble getting sarge or woody to install on my powermac g3 (beige) |
| 20:47.55 | dchilton | Any suggestions |
| 20:49.16 | Bor_Ed | install with bootx |
| 20:49.59 | dchilton | I am, i get as far as installing debian base and then get a file system error |
| 20:50.30 | dchilton | using last nights sarge netinstall cd or the business card cd, as well as RC2 from november |
| 20:50.36 | Bor_Ed | I haven't had any probs with 3.0R1 and sarge rc2 here |
| 20:50.49 | simonrvn | you can't boot ppc linux from cd |
| 20:50.50 | Bor_Ed | (beige g3/233 desktop) |
| 20:50.53 | simonrvn | not oldworld |
| 20:51.18 | dchilton | right, using bootx |
| 20:51.47 | dchilton | which kernel/ramdisks did you use? |
| 20:52.31 | Bor_Ed | the one that came with woody cd iirc, sarge ones didn't work |
| 20:53.00 | simonrvn | sarge d-i needs work still |
| 20:53.15 | dchilton | hmm, did you install sarge directly or woody first then upgrade |
| 20:53.57 | Bor_Ed | sarge and dist-upgraded immediately to sid and built working kernel |
| 20:55.31 | dchilton | did you use the sarge netinstall or the full images? |
| 20:55.37 | Bor_Ed | netinstall |
| 20:55.53 | Bor_Ed | rc2 even... nightly snapshots didn't work for me |
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| 20:57.06 | dchilton | okay, i was mainly trying the nightly snaps because i was getting filesystem errors and thought something may have been fixed in newer revisions |
| 20:57.31 | Bor_Ed | I tried 4-5 nightly versions and none worked |
| 20:59.19 | dchilton | okay ill try rc2 |
| 20:59.23 | dchilton | thanks |
| 20:59.31 | Bor_Ed | np, hope you get the sys up |
| 21:05.17 | dchilton | oh did you use the vmlinux and initrd.gz from rc2? |
| 21:06.14 | Bor_Ed | nope, from woody |
| 21:06.30 | dchilton | ok |
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| 21:52.26 | Madkiss | The slot that hosts the Airport Extreme card in current iBooks is some kind of commercial, right? So one can not simply use another product and plug it into that. |
| 21:52.41 | al_ | it is not minipci. |
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| 22:16.07 | UdeS | you guys know if you can boot Linux on an external firewire HD (i.e iPod)? |
| 22:16.25 | UdeS | i don't care about maintaining it's iTunes and stand alone music player functions... |
| 22:16.42 | UdeS | I just wanna be able to install Linux on it and boot from it; any clue how? |
| 22:18.32 | simonrvn | UdeS: you can't run linux on an ipod. only the external drive. |
| 22:18.45 | simonrvn | that article you read is aying bullshit |
| 22:18.50 | simonrvn | saying* |
| 22:18.51 | UdeS | but it is a firewire drive isn't it? |
| 22:19.05 | simonrvn | re-read what i said |
| 22:19.14 | UdeS | ok and why?:) |
| 22:19.17 | UdeS | or why not? |
| 22:19.33 | simonrvn | because it's not capable of doing that |
| 22:20.51 | simonrvn | wtf are you /msging me? don't you ask? |
| 22:21.18 | UdeS | nope |
| 22:21.30 | UdeS | just wanted your opinion, that's all |
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| 22:26.35 | snooo | could someone help me get my adbmouse working? |
| 22:27.00 | simonrvn | @ask-to-ask |
| 22:27.01 | ravenbird | ask-to-ask is, like, Don't ask to ask...just ask. The Ask-To-Ask Protocol v 1.0 wastes more bandwidth than any version of the Ask Protocol |
| 22:27.25 | snooo | muh |
| 22:27.27 | snooo | ok |
| 22:27.38 | snooo | i keep reading that the adbmouse is availible at /dev/adbmouse |
| 22:27.44 | snooo | but its not on my system |
| 22:27.46 | simonrvn | /dev/input/mice |
| 22:27.51 | snooo | and i'm using woody |
| 22:28.02 | Bor_Ed | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and change the mouse to Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" |
| 22:28.35 | simonrvn | yes, still the case ^^^ for both x and console. except gpm it's autops2 |
| 22:29.21 | snooo | erm |
| 22:29.26 | snooo | another thing |
| 22:29.38 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, shoot 3 button trigger :D |
| 22:29.40 | snooo | how do you get out of an x terminal that is incorrectly configured |
| 22:29.42 | snooo | ? |
| 22:29.46 | snooo | and doesnt do anything useful |
| 22:29.50 | simonrvn | @+3 buttons |
| 22:29.50 | ravenbird | sysctl -w dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation=1, and dev.mac_hid.mouse_buttonY_keycode=XX -- where XX is a number you get from showkey (in console only), the key you want, and Y is 2 or 3. however, you'll lose functionality of the selected keys for any other use, or to make the change permanent, add the entries to /etc/sysctl.conf - man sysctl.conf, and you can ... |
| 22:29.52 | Bor_Ed | whoops, it wasn't that :o |
| 22:30.11 | simonrvn | snooo: you mean go to console? ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 22:30.33 | snooo | yes |
| 22:30.37 | snooo | doesnt seem to be doing anything |
| 22:30.47 | simonrvn | lappy? |
| 22:30.55 | snooo | no desktop, beige g3 |
| 22:31.11 | snooo | i've got a shitty old monitor and i havent set it up properly yet |
| 22:31.12 | simonrvn | try killing it, ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 22:31.42 | snooo | nope |
| 22:31.44 | snooo | fecking hell |
| 22:31.51 | simonrvn | it's locked up |
| 22:31.59 | simonrvn | can you ssh to it? |
| 22:32.20 | simonrvn | if you can, you can just do killall xinit |
| 22:32.47 | snooo | yup |
| 22:32.52 | snooo | need to download putty first.... |
| 22:33.09 | simonrvn | might want to ping it first, see if it's responsive |
| 22:33.26 | snooo | the samba web thing is working |
| 22:33.33 | simonrvn | ok |
| 22:33.44 | simonrvn | just x then |
| 22:41.51 | snooo | i killed it but the display is still dead |
| 22:41.56 | snooo | grrrr |
| 22:42.19 | simonrvn | hmm. the video fucked up. try jiggling it with fbset |
| 22:42.30 | snooo | command not found |
| 22:42.36 | simonrvn | say, fbset 1024x768-70. install it then |
| 22:42.56 | snooo | okies |
| 22:43.47 | snooo | is there a list of resolutions and frequencies anywhere i could use as a guide? |
| 22:44.00 | snooo | sorry about asking basic questions but its been a while since i've had to set up a linux box |
| 22:44.17 | simonrvn | /etc/fb.modes. the one i gave is you is valid. might or mightn't work |
| 22:44.31 | simonrvn | (due to video differences) |
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| 22:51.55 | snooo | arrrgh |
| 22:52.12 | simonrvn | reboot it then |
| 22:52.15 | simonrvn | :/ |
| 22:52.25 | snooo | for some reason it was set to 640x480-283 |
| 22:52.38 | simonrvn | ooo-kay |
| 22:52.53 | snooo | i think it tried to boot up a graphical login manager |
| 22:53.18 | snooo | where are the files regarding startup? |
| 22:53.20 | simonrvn | @tell snooo -about nodm |
| 22:53.30 | snooo | i'm used to slack |
| 22:58.09 | snooo | rebooted |
| 22:59.42 | snooo | tis fine now |
| 22:59.45 | simonrvn | ok |
| 23:15.20 | snooo | what are the kernal commands that force it to use a specific video frequency and resolution? |
| 23:19.55 | snooo | on startup |
| 23:22.14 | simonrvn | append="video=somethingfb:XXXxYYY-ZZ" |
| 23:23.58 | snooo | somethingfb? |
| 23:24.35 | simonrvn | something is what your video driver is - e.g. atyfb, or radeonfb, or controlfb, etc. |
| 23:24.43 | snooo | atifb? |
| 23:24.50 | simonrvn | aty |
| 23:25.10 | snooo | i think this monitor is a peice of shit |
| 23:25.22 | snooo | which seems to be causing the problems |
| 23:25.35 | snooo | grrr |
| 23:25.55 | simonrvn | video lock ups are usually due to the video itself, not the monitor |
| 23:26.03 | simonrvn | (or the driver...) |
| 23:26.58 | snooo | its old tho |
| 23:27.09 | snooo | old apple model |
| 23:27.14 | snooo | think it only has one mode |
| 23:27.42 | snooo | must bash it.... |
| 23:28.39 | simonrvn | mine is. works fine. like i said, nothing to do with the monitor |
| 23:29.26 | snooo | atyfb is the ati rage driver? |
| 23:29.49 | simonrvn | either that or 126fb if it's a rage 128 |
| 23:29.54 | simonrvn | 128fb* |
| 23:30.05 | snooo | yup |
| 23:30.42 | simonrvn | i think it'll do 1024x768-XX on console |
| 23:31.14 | snooo | my monitor can only take 640x480 at 67.1Mhz |
| 23:31.20 | simonrvn | append="video=atyfb,scrollback:128k elevator=deadline" # that's mine currently |
| 23:31.23 | simonrvn | ah, ok |
| 23:31.29 | snooo | hence |
| 23:31.31 | snooo | its shit |
| 23:31.32 | snooo | :-/ |
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| 23:31.45 | simonrvn | old trinitron or colour display? |
| 23:31.50 | snooo | colour |
| 23:31.59 | snooo | dont think its trinitron |
| 23:32.02 | simonrvn | oh, yeh, those *aren't* nice |
| 23:32.13 | snooo | works under os 9 |
| 23:32.15 | snooo | just |
| 23:32.57 | simonrvn | can you tell trinitrons from "normal" ones? there's a small hair-wdith line top thrid from the top, going across, and another 2 thirds down if it's a larger one |
| 23:33.04 | simonrvn | width* |
| 23:33.08 | simonrvn | third* |
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| 23:34.14 | snooo | ? |
| 23:34.18 | snooo | you mean tv lines? |
| 23:34.53 | snooo | there doesnt seem to be anything |
| 23:35.25 | simonrvn | no, i mean a physical wire that shows up dark |
| 23:35.50 | snooo | nothing |
| 23:36.53 | simonrvn | it wouldn't, colour displays weren't |
| 23:38.03 | snooo | these beige g3's |
| 23:38.10 | snooo | can you put any old vga montior into them? |
| 23:38.14 | snooo | monitor |
| 23:38.18 | snooo | might be the solution |
| 23:38.46 | simonrvn | with an adaptor |
| 23:39.33 | snooo | well it doesnt look like i'll get x running now anyway |
| 23:39.40 | snooo | thanks anyways |
| 23:39.44 | simonrvn | np |
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| 23:53.42 | skegger | Is there any way to force my oldworld mac to boot into linux at 832x624 @ 75Hz? |
| 23:54.29 | simonrvn | append= line |