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| 00:56.29 | nick_n | Is there a sarge installer out there with support for PowerMac G5s? |
| 00:57.25 | simonrvn | it'll support it |
| 00:57.34 | simonrvn | otherwise ask in #debian-boot |
| 00:58.07 | nick_n | The installer can't find the cdrom drive |
| 01:00.11 | nick_n | which implies to me that it doesn't have the latest kernel |
| 01:00.15 | nick_n | Am I right? |
| 01:00.53 | nick_n | Is that a question for debian-boot? |
| 01:01.54 | simonrvn | it has 2.6.8 (patched) and 2.4.27 (also patched) |
| 01:04.13 | nick_n | hmmm... |
| 01:04.35 | simonrvn | might want to try expert26 from the cd |
| 01:04.48 | nick_n | I'll try that |
| 01:04.56 | nick_n | brb |
| 01:05.09 | simonrvn | the 2.6 kernel is more likely to support your box |
| 01:05.13 | simonrvn | meh |
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| 01:29.55 | oDilx | what could be IRQ #48 on an '99er imac |
| 01:32.46 | simonrvn | depwnds on what your machine thinks it is |
| 01:33.01 | oDilx | how do i find that out |
| 01:33.22 | simonrvn | er, s/machine/OS/ |
| 01:33.32 | oDilx | still |
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| 01:33.59 | simonrvn | try lspci first, then /proc/pci, ifconfig, etc. |
| 01:34.05 | oDilx | ifconfig? |
| 01:34.25 | simonrvn | not used to linux are you |
| 01:34.28 | oDilx | nothing around about IRQ 48 |
| 01:34.36 | oDilx | eh its xmb here |
| 01:35.08 | oDilx | i just havent seen ifconfig print out any IRQ information on any OS |
| 01:35.41 | simonrvn | Interrupt:25 Base address:0x2000 |
| 01:35.50 | simonrvn | what's that, hmm? |
| 01:36.05 | oDilx | oic :) actually lspci -vv prints something about #48 |
| 01:36.25 | oDilx | seems like its the ati card |
| 01:36.55 | oDilx | yesterday i had some funky dmesg entry about 'IRQ #48: nobody cared' .. lil oops call trace, and thats it |
| 01:37.15 | simonrvn | probably some minor bug |
| 01:37.27 | oDilx | maybe some extern hackery |
| 01:37.46 | oDilx | however, with newest X/kernel, DRI finally works on that imac |
| 01:38.03 | simonrvn | cool |
| 01:38.04 | oDilx | for the really first time (last time i said that, it simply crashed on any DRI) |
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| 01:38.37 | oDilx | but it still breaks, either making the current app and keyboard unusable, or making the screen black, requiring a reboot |
| 01:38.48 | oDilx | in the first case i have to do a kill -9 from outside |
| 01:39.48 | oDilx | second case the system still runs with outside access, but no screen at all anymore |
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| 01:40.11 | simonrvn | yeh. it's the ati and driver. incomplete i think |
| 01:40.19 | oDilx | (hum.. also w/o any special X-conf values the imac monitor will only show up 1024x768, everything else shows black |
| 01:40.28 | simonrvn | i get that sometimes. not so much anymore since 2.6 |
| 01:40.31 | nick_n | What iso image should I be using for a PowerMac G5? |
| 01:40.39 | simonrvn | rc2 |
| 01:40.46 | simonrvn | netinst or the full one |
| 01:42.51 | oDilx | simonrvn, ever heard about anything like a 'web request generation engine'? |
| 01:43.07 | simonrvn | no |
| 01:43.07 | nauthiz | should I be in any rush to upgrade to 2.6? (I'm on a TiBook) |
| 01:43.23 | oDilx | mm, i coded one in bash |
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| 02:01.13 | nauthiz | anyone know the keyboard command to kill X on a Mac laptop? |
| 02:01.57 | simonrvn | ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 02:02.28 | nauthiz | I don't need to stick the fn key in there somewhere? |
| 02:02.48 | simonrvn | try both |
| 02:02.56 | simonrvn | fn first maybe |
| 02:03.20 | nauthiz | doubtful. fn is second when I'm switching VTs |
| 02:03.45 | simonrvn | ok. first on some. strange |
| 02:04.13 | nauthiz | none of them seem to be working |
| 02:07.29 | nauthiz | funnier yet, I can't switch VTs from inside X using the keyboard commands I'm used to. |
| 02:07.39 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 02:07.47 | simonrvn | something up with x? |
| 02:07.56 | nauthiz | I wonder if I hosed my keymap somehow. . . |
| 02:08.13 | simonrvn | oooh, yeh, that too |
| 02:08.30 | simonrvn | possible |
| 02:09.56 | nauthiz | though I did just discover a ctrl-alt-bacspace permutation that causes my computer to stop responding to the keyboard and mouse and my display to generate lovely but frightening plasma effects |
| 02:10.24 | simonrvn | eek :) |
| 02:10.37 | nauthiz | Maybe I should just go home and install Darwin. =D |
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| 02:14.18 | azero | I am have just installed Sarge and half the time when the boot load goes to load debian it fails |
| 02:14.27 | oDilx | anyone have a favorite blog site? |
| 02:14.33 | azero | I have a G4 Quicksilver 2002 |
| 02:15.01 | oDilx | fails with what message |
| 02:16.29 | denken | azero: you didnt say anything about that in #debian :P |
| 02:16.30 | azero | I am not getting a specific message it just stalls |
| 02:16.43 | azero | it stops on openpic:exit |
| 02:17.09 | oDilx | hm boot loader, more i dunno =p |
| 02:17.16 | oDilx | and sometimes it works? |
| 02:17.17 | azero | I get Welcome to Linux, kernel 2.6.8-powerpc |
| 02:17.22 | simonrvn | the kernel is mssing something |
| 02:17.31 | simonrvn | hmm, first guess, initrd |
| 02:17.37 | azero | linked at : blah hex |
| 02:17.43 | oDilx | the newest kernel off sid may do good |
| 02:18.05 | azero | but it loads sometimes |
| 02:18.27 | denken | the newest sarge installer should work fine on that model afaik |
| 02:18.33 | simonrvn | yup |
| 02:18.50 | azero | I am also having no audio when I get into Gnome |
| 02:19.06 | simonrvn | /msg ravenbird audio |
| 02:19.44 | denken | have you guys seen this sf project for airport extreme drivers? |
| 02:20.09 | denken | looks like they are about 30-40% done rev engineering the MIPS drivers from linksys wrt54g routers |
| 02:20.29 | azero | so is sarge the unstable tree? |
| 02:20.38 | denken | sarge == testing |
| 02:20.49 | oDilx | sid == unstable |
| 02:20.54 | azero | I just installed sarge today |
| 02:21.09 | azero | and I am having this problem with the kernel not loading half the time |
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| 02:22.09 | nauthiz | anyone know of a good website for help with getting X working properly on a PowerBook? |
| 02:22.15 | denken | finally. that cvsup & portupgrade took *forever* |
| 02:22.27 | nickn | The rc2 netinst CD only has one power4 kernel, and it doesn't recognize the drives on my PowerMac G5 |
| 02:22.53 | denken | nickn: use a weekly build |
| 02:22.58 | denken | rc2 is quite old now |
| 02:24.00 | denken | azero: did you use a weekly build of the sarge installer? |
| 02:24.18 | denken | also, are you sure you dont have some hardware issue? |
| 02:24.27 | nickn | the 20050312 build does the same thing |
| 02:24.36 | nickn | The hardware works in OS X |
| 02:24.50 | azero | I used http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/powerpc/rc2/sarge-powerpc-businesscard.iso |
| 02:25.20 | nickn | azero: Any special boot options? |
| 02:25.35 | denken | nickn: does what "same thing"... |
| 02:25.44 | azero | nickn: nope |
| 02:25.53 | denken | azero: that is rc2. use a weekly build and be happy. |
| 02:26.04 | nickn | Meaning, it boots, but doesn't recognize my cdrom drive |
| 02:26.14 | azero | denken: How do i use a weekly build |
| 02:26.44 | nickn | Is there a place where I can find out what builds have worked for other people? |
| 02:26.57 | azero | denken: do I just download another businesscard.iso and go from there |
| 02:27.38 | denken | azero: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-weekly/torrents/powerpc/ |
| 02:27.43 | denken | note the "debian-weekly" part |
| 02:28.04 | denken | nickn: erm... you dont have a power4 cpu. you need to boot with a powerpc kernel |
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| 02:29.06 | azero | denken: do I need to download all the cd images to just install it as a desktop computer |
| 02:29.16 | denken | no just #1 |
| 02:29.23 | azero | denken: alright |
| 02:29.52 | wizzard_ | hmm, why shouldn't one use the benh-kernels anymore? |
| 02:29.56 | nickn | ok |
| 02:30.17 | oDilx | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.20 | azero | are there any good torrant programs for windows |
| 02:31.21 | azero | I guess just use bittorrent |
| 02:32.34 | oDilx | if you were on linux, mldonkey would support that |
| 02:32.45 | oDilx | not worth to try it on windoz |
| 02:33.12 | azero | I can linux running just not sure If i could get the iso burned in debian yet |
| 02:33.32 | demon | wizzard: because all benh's work goes right into the mainline kernels these days, unless it's highly experimental |
| 02:33.38 | oDilx | cdrecord is enough |
| 02:33.49 | oDilx | good time to test it =) |
| 02:33.58 | azero | can I apt-get mldonkey? |
| 02:34.03 | oDilx | yeah |
| 02:34.25 | azero | did not work for me |
| 02:34.30 | azero | do I need different sources? |
| 02:34.34 | oDilx | i used to have a self compiled version with FT (kazaa) support, which got removed in the debian builds |
| 02:35.12 | azero | apt-get install mldonkey does not work |
| 02:35.13 | oDilx | get mldonkey-server and -gui (apt-cache search mldonkey) |
| 02:35.19 | oDilx | you need some brain too |
| 02:35.23 | azero | ok |
| 02:36.09 | oDilx | yet you can also try bittornado{,-gui}, shall work better/less complicated for torrents |
| 02:38.24 | wizzard_ | demon, so I can basically download any 2.6-kernel and asume that I get all the benefits of ben's stuff, right? |
| 02:38.36 | azero | yeah I got bittornado install just I do not know enough to find it and launch it |
| 02:38.52 | oDilx | man bittornado |
| 02:39.37 | azero | the did not launch the man file on the app |
| 02:39.46 | azero | that I mean |
| 02:40.09 | oDilx | dpkg -S bittorn | grep bin # will show the binaries |
| 02:40.16 | oDilx | each should have a man page, try |
| 02:40.54 | denken | azero: there are .iso's that you can download with http or ftp as well |
| 02:41.08 | denken | i just quote the bittorrent links when people ask for them :P |
| 02:41.28 | azero | Yeah I just learn this stuff |
| 02:41.41 | denken | http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-weekly/powerpc/sarge-powerpc-1.iso |
| 02:41.43 | denken | try that |
| 02:42.00 | denken | and with that im off. nite kids. |
| 02:42.11 | oDilx | moo |
| 02:43.57 | azero | so how do install the gui to bittorn |
| 02:44.08 | oDilx | install its -gui package |
| 02:44.32 | azero | so apt-get install bittornado -gui? |
| 02:44.38 | oDilx | without the last space |
| 02:45.20 | azero | thats why it was not working |
| 02:45.33 | oDilx | spaces are important, you know |
| 02:45.44 | oDilx | and sometimes its important to not space anything |
| 02:47.27 | azero | will a shortcut be automatically made in gnome or any of the desktops? |
| 02:47.51 | azero | or am I just dreaming |
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| 02:55.45 | az3ro | I am back. I got Xchat installed on my box |
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| 03:09.06 | wizzard_ | can someone give me a URL of a HOWTO on installing linux on old world macs, please? |
| 03:09.16 | wizzard_ | I'm searching but can't quite find it |
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| 03:16.04 | azero | who do I need to msg to get audio information |
| 03:19.36 | oDilx | azero, dont ask, do it |
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| 03:22.33 | azero | oDilx: I am just trying to setup audio of my powermac quicksilver |
| 03:22.54 | azero | I see that the snd_powermac is loaded |
| 03:24.30 | azero | I just keep getting Device "/dev/dsp" does not exist |
| 03:25.20 | azero | I have been search the web but not real luck |
| 03:28.51 | wizzard_ | azero, that happened to me too, I think i solved it by putting the needed modules in /etc/modules |
| 03:29.02 | wizzard_ | can't check right now, modem still isn't working in linux |
| 03:29.18 | azero | well thanks wizzard_ |
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| 03:30.16 | azero | yeah I see that snd-powermac is loading |
| 03:33.08 | azero | wizzard_ do you have a powerpc quicksilver |
| 03:35.16 | wizzard_ | umm, no ibook g4 |
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| 03:36.06 | azero | do you know if you had to install ALSA to get it working |
| 03:36.36 | nickn | I'm still not having any luck getting Debian to install on my G5. It appears that the sata driver I need isn't included. Does that make sense? |
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| 03:41.42 | wizzard_ | nickn, can't you load it? |
| 03:42.05 | nickn | It doesn't appear to be included with the power4 kernel |
| 03:42.23 | wizzard_ | can't you load it as a module? |
| 03:42.29 | nickn | there are no sata* drivers in the scsi modules directory |
| 03:42.35 | wizzard_ | hmm |
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| 03:45.56 | nickn | Is there anything I can do short of cross compiling with the needed modules? |
| 03:52.36 | wizzard_ | maybe you can find them somewhere precompiled... |
| 03:54.00 | nickn | I'll play around with it and submit a bug report with my findings |
| 03:54.13 | wizzard_ | :o) |
| 03:54.21 | nickn | later |
| 03:55.12 | wizzard_ | does anyone know where I can find the kernel-patches to resolve "unresolved symbol" errors while compiling linuxant modem drivers? |
| 03:55.17 | wizzard_ | it's got to do with binutils |
| 03:55.24 | wizzard_ | that's all I remember :o) |
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| 07:53.34 | azero | how would you slow down the mouse gnome |
| 07:54.12 | simonrvn | menu -> desktop prefs -> mouse |
| 07:54.57 | Piru | or, alternatively try with cheese |
| 07:54.58 | azero | ok thanks that worked. How would I change the avalible resolutions |
| 07:55.16 | simonrvn | same place. menu |
| 07:55.33 | simonrvn | Piru: cheese works better when all else fails |
| 07:55.36 | azero | well max res is 800x600 |
| 07:55.38 | Piru | :) |
| 07:55.48 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 07:55.49 | azero | do I need to run xfree86 again |
| 07:56.12 | simonrvn | if it's capable of larger, sure |
| 07:56.19 | simonrvn | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 08:00.43 | azero | so now I need some help with audio on a g4 quicksilver |
| 08:01.24 | azero | I get device "/dev/dsp" does not exist |
| 08:04.09 | azero | brb |
| 08:04.41 | ukh | too-proud-to-call-themselves-gurus: is there a quick'n'dirty way of performing memory tests in OpenFirmware on B&W G3? |
| 08:08.45 | ukh | (my gcc keeps generating all sorts of kernel Oopses without any apparent regularity) |
| 08:09.11 | ukh | and no, I've verified that my CPU has not been overclocked |
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| 08:16.26 | azero | are there any setup instructions for attempting to setup audio for a g4 ppc |
| 08:17.03 | azero | I know that audio working is a hit or miss thing |
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| 08:22.53 | simonrvn | ukh: memtest, run it like memtest86 |
| 08:23.37 | simonrvn | azero: su -; cd /dev; MAKEDEV audio |
| 08:30.47 | ukh | simonrvn: is that an OF command or...? |
| 08:31.28 | simonrvn | @installit |
| 08:31.30 | ravenbird | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 08:36.36 | ukh | uh oh... I thought that was why I ran debian in the first place... |
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| 08:44.00 | gobbles | how do you format a floppy in linux, i forgot |
| 08:45.18 | ukh | superformat? (does that work on all mac hardware anyway?) |
| 08:45.37 | gobbles | superformat |
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| 09:05.17 | pahartik | ukh: only on those with floppy disk drive and acceptable kernel driver to access it |
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| 09:48.36 | gobbles | finaly got the mac booted, but this one is ide only |
| 09:49.10 | gobbles | any way around having it only boot to scsi...i dont have any scsi drives |
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| 12:14.43 | lobezno | hi |
| 12:14.51 | lobezno | is there an ubuntu ppc channel? |
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| 12:15.30 | lobezno | somebody here with xorg and ibook? |
| 12:18.36 | pahartik | lobezno: i tried their "Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) Preview PowerPC live CD" on iBook G4 |
| 12:52.48 | lobezno | pahartik, I am using it |
| 12:52.51 | lobezno | xD |
| 13:01.01 | pahartik | lobezno: i tried it mostly because i wanted to see if X.Org would let me use built-in and external display device at the same time |
| 13:01.24 | lobezno | aha |
| 13:01.26 | lobezno | and is posible? |
| 13:01.26 | lobezno | I need that :) |
| 13:01.43 | lobezno | I can allways install xfree dri trunk patched |
| 13:01.46 | lobezno | but I prefer xorg |
| 13:02.10 | pahartik | lobezno: it did not work with that version at least |
| 13:02.32 | lobezno | I mean if you tried xorg and external |
| 13:02.49 | lobezno | I was using until yesterday 2 displays at same time |
| 13:02.55 | lobezno | indeed i NEED external |
| 13:04.25 | pahartik | lobezno: i have only managed to use both at the same time in MacOS X 10.3 |
| 13:06.54 | pahartik | lobezno: did you build patched xserver-xfree86 package by yourself? |
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| 13:07.05 | Hajuu2 | Hey |
| 13:07.32 | Hajuu2 | Helpful little knotice there lol |
| 13:10.05 | Hajuu2 | umm |
| 13:10.38 | lobezno | pahartik, yes and is very easy |
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| 13:11.18 | lobezno | get source, patch, compile without problems and dpkg -i |
| 13:11.30 | lobezno | put new conf file, change refresh and perfect |
| 13:14.19 | Hajuu2 | I downloaded the netinstall iso of debian for the PPC.. but I cant find the tool I need to partition the hdd to put the bootstrap image thing onto to fool linux into letting me boot |
| 13:14.52 | pahartik | lobezno: where is that patch? |
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| 18:18.04 | simonrvn | @fart |
| 18:18.43 | jaska | weirdo :P |
| 18:18.50 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 18:21.39 | myXtie | hey ! and I thought switching trees was for code monkeys but what is going on with extra version changes happening so often ? |
| 18:22.58 | simonrvn | ENOCONTEXT |
| 18:23.12 | myXtie | 2.6.11.3 is from same tree as 2.6.11.4 ? |
| 18:23.25 | simonrvn | read the changelog |
| 18:23.58 | myXtie | I did I also read vger and andrew said they are changing trees |
| 18:24.29 | simonrvn | what does he mean by "changing trees"? |
| 18:24.42 | myXtie | Diff code tree |
| 18:24.53 | myXtie | on another site |
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| 18:32.05 | myXtie | Offical anounce but there is much more talk : http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0503.1/0410.html |
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| 19:26.10 | lobezno | hi |
| 19:27.22 | grivell | hi |
| 19:28.10 | lobezno | root@wildbook:/home/alberto # apt-get install pmud |
| 19:28.10 | lobezno | Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho |
| 19:28.10 | lobezno | Creando árbol de dependencias... Hecho |
| 19:28.10 | lobezno | Los siguientes paquetes se ELIMINARÁN: |
| 19:28.10 | lobezno | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.13 | lobezno | ubuntu is weird |
| 19:28.15 | lobezno | mmm |
| 19:28.26 | lobezno | If I install pmud then try to remove this packages |
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| 19:32.27 | simonrvn | lobezno: #ubuntu if you actually want support ;). oh, don't pbbuttonsd and pmud conflict in debian too? |
| 19:32.52 | lobezno | dunno |
| 19:34.04 | simonrvn | no, pmud just conflicts with apmd. and pbbuttonsd -> Conflicts: gtkpbbuttons (<< 0.6.2), pmud |
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| 20:18.07 | Q-FUNK | anyone using gnome 2.10 here? |
| 20:19.01 | dj-death | gnome 2.10 is not in debian |
| 20:19.41 | mirak | it's not even on ubuntu |
| 20:19.51 | mirak | uBuNtU |
| 20:20.00 | mirak | UbUnTu |
| 20:20.05 | grivell | ubuNTu |
| 20:20.13 | dj-death | lol |
| 20:21.04 | mirak | bitocu |
| 20:21.27 | dj-death | pk tu dis ca ? |
| 20:22.18 | Q-FUNK | it definitely IS on ubuntu. |
| 20:22.42 | dj-death | so go on #ubuntu-ppc |
| 20:22.57 | Q-FUNK | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:24.11 | al_ | oh, Q-FUNK the menu at the right is higher than the white block |
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| 20:24.28 | konold | hi |
| 20:24.33 | wl | someone got the pbook trackpad working? |
| 20:24.42 | konold | if anyone using the machines in Augsburg for porting? |
| 20:27.49 | mirak | dj-death: c'etait une private joke |
| 20:29.28 | dj-death | ok |
| 20:45.03 | Q-FUNK | al_: I'm really not concerned with possible CSS bugs at this stage. :) I'm more worried about gnome 2.10's messy keyboard driver messing up with my X config. |
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| 22:50.02 | trouble | Hi folks |
| 22:50.49 | trouble | got a g3 powerbook that wont boot from cd |
| 22:50.58 | trouble | trying to insta debian |
| 22:51.40 | simonrvn | run an md5sum on the iso |
| 22:51.58 | trouble | dont that |
| 22:52.01 | trouble | oops |
| 22:52.04 | trouble | done* |
| 22:52.47 | simonrvn | @status |
| 22:52.48 | ravenbird | Since Tue Mar 15 20:10:05 2005, there have been 2 modifications, 17 questions, 2 dunnos, 0 morons and 9 commands. I have been awake for 1d 2h 42m 42s this session, and currently reference 20677 factoids. I'm using about 21596 kB of memory. With 1 active fork. Process time user/system 328.39/19.72 child 0.02/0.05 |
| 22:52.51 | simonrvn | :) |
| 22:53.10 | Q-FUNK | nice :) |
| 22:54.01 | al_ | 22mb for a bot ?.. |
| 22:54.03 | simonrvn | trouble: what *kind8 of g3 PB? |
| 22:54.10 | simonrvn | *kind* even |
| 22:54.12 | trouble | a slow one |
| 22:54.18 | simonrvn | ... |
| 22:54.22 | trouble | 32 mb ram |
| 22:54.23 | al_ | :) |
| 22:54.31 | trouble | cpu havent got a clue |
| 22:54.43 | trouble | os 8.6 |
| 22:54.45 | Q-FUNK | clamshell? |
| 22:55.04 | simonrvn | what does "apple System Profiler" say it is? |
| 22:55.05 | trouble | oh and it has an apple on the front, how nice :) |
| 22:55.14 | trouble | 1 sec |
| 22:55.21 | simonrvn | (bets it's a clamshell, and Q-FUNK is right) |
| 22:55.47 | trouble | looks like a clam shell |
| 22:56.22 | Q-FUNK | white plastic with transparent blue or orange trimming? |
| 22:56.27 | simonrvn | then that cd should boot, barring a bad burn and other shit like that |
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| 22:56.50 | al_ | he said powerbook.. |
| 22:57.07 | trouble | not white |
| 22:57.08 | simonrvn | people don't know the difference sometimes |
| 22:57.10 | trouble | its black |
| 22:57.14 | al_ | he does. |
| 22:57.23 | Slackman | hi guys, anyone here running a powerbook/ibook and has their right mouse button set to ctrl+mouse_click? |
| 22:57.31 | simonrvn | ok, s/he is right though. so, no, not a clamshell |
| 22:57.37 | al_ | trouble, http://www.apple-history.com/frames/nav_list.php?page=recent_changes&model=&sort=family&performa=#powerbook_gx choose it :) |
| 22:57.44 | trouble | ok what am i looking for ? |
| 22:58.29 | trouble | http://www.apple-history.com/frames/body.php?page=gallery&model=pg3s |
| 22:58.33 | trouble | thats the one |
| 22:59.41 | simonrvn | wallstreet won't boot linux CD i don't think (/me checks) |
| 22:59.54 | trouble | ok |
| 23:00.06 | simonrvn | lemme confirm that |
| 23:00.10 | al_ | i think he needs bootx |
| 23:00.31 | al_ | (that's what google says) |
| 23:00.45 | simonrvn | http://wiki.kisikew.org/bin/view/Know/MacModels |
| 23:01.42 | trouble | simon where u from ? |
| 23:02.31 | al_ | (ok, never believe google.) |
| 23:02.39 | trouble | lol |
| 23:03.08 | simonrvn | however, that page says boot cd via an OF command, that only for netbsd |
| 23:04.25 | trouble | thanx for the help guys |
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