| 00:32.01 | fluffy_wolf | blah. I need a new job. |
| 00:37.34 | simonrvn | yes you do |
| 00:40.20 | fluffy_wolf | just got back from way too many days in the cold... |
| 00:41.14 | simonrvn | :| |
| 00:41.29 | fluffy_wolf | 4 nights at hotels, $200. gas, $120. parts, about $100. food, about $50. = $470. total money getting paid: about $700. NOT WORTH IT. |
| 00:41.49 | simonrvn | wtf.. |
| 00:42.09 | fluffy_wolf | half the jobs cancelled or otherwise didn't get installed |
| 00:42.26 | simonrvn | O_O |
| 00:42.27 | fluffy_wolf | so I drove around for 5 days for $700. minus expenses. |
| 00:42.34 | simonrvn | that SUCKS |
| 00:48.07 | fluffy_wolf | snow, rain, digging the car out of the mud once, ... really not worth it. |
| 00:49.09 | simonrvn | nope. you need a new job |
| 00:50.19 | fluffy_wolf | (although the mud digging wasn't my fault... I parked on a wide gravel road shoulder, about 3 feet from the edge, which promptly began to slide down a hill...) |
| 00:50.49 | simonrvn | heh |
| 00:51.59 | fluffy_wolf | the car tilted to about a 30 degree angle... which promptly killed the engine. GRR. I could have driven out, but was stuck pushing it out instead with no engine. |
| 00:52.17 | fluffy_wolf | remind me if I ever get a 4x4 to make sure it's fuel injected. |
| 00:53.15 | simonrvn | heh |
| 00:54.49 | fluffy_wolf | the float bowl is on the left side of the carb. car tilted to the right. guess where all the gas in the float bowl gets dumped when that happens? |
| 00:55.18 | simonrvn | in the carb? |
| 00:55.44 | simonrvn | =) |
| 00:56.16 | fluffy_wolf | ...which does what to the engine? :P |
| 00:56.25 | fluffy_wolf | (hint: engines don't run when you dump a cup of gas down them) |
| 01:06.26 | simonrvn | no, really? ;) |
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| 01:07.52 | rustyBAFH | his folks |
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| 01:31.23 | simonrvn | fluffy_wolf: isn't there a danger of that gas catching fire too? |
| 01:31.38 | simonrvn | or something explosive... |
| 01:32.26 | fluffy_wolf | doesn't tend to happen. gas evaporates out the venturis when you park it anyway... |
| 01:32.54 | simonrvn | ok |
| 01:33.42 | fluffy_wolf | the dish I did last night took 8 hours... blah. |
| 01:35.27 | simonrvn | 8 hours? doesn't it take you something like 2-3 hours tops? |
| 01:35.57 | fluffy_wolf | 3 receivers and a tivo. = 5 lines. = 48 switch. = 6 lines, since you have to run power to the switch. on a big house. with no existing usable cabling. and no crawlspace. and lots of add-ons the wire had to be routed on or over, including TWO, count them, TWO glass sun-rooms I had to walk on top of. and then he wanted the old (unusable) wire pulled. |
| 01:36.30 | fluffy_wolf | and he wanted the new wire NEAT. and he wanted me to spend an hour showhing him how to use it. and then then tivo was DOA. |
| 01:37.14 | simonrvn | oh shit. sounds like a hell job. some other friends of mine did some cat5 on an old palce the other day.. had to get wired through 3 different buildings, with courtyards seperating them |
| 01:37.28 | simonrvn | fluffy_wolf: :/ |
| 01:38.16 | fluffy_wolf | TiVo just needed a reboot (about a half hour... you'd think with running linux they'd do things a bit faster...) |
| 01:38.44 | fluffy_wolf | if I'm in the area again, I'll take a photo of the job... didn't have a camera with me... it's a work of art. :P |
| 01:38.58 | fluffy_wolf | side of the house looks like a tv station with all the lines going to it. |
| 01:39.38 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 01:40.16 | fluffy_wolf | since he was so worried about it being neat (large house directly off lake shastina... probably worth more than most cities...), I ran all the wires nicely... carefully radiused bends (of all 5 lines in parallel!), etc. |
| 01:40.43 | simonrvn | cool |
| 01:41.12 | fluffy_wolf | used, dunno, 300ft of coax... |
| 01:41.19 | simonrvn | heh |
| 01:41.25 | fluffy_wolf | about 50 F connectors... |
| 01:41.31 | fluffy_wolf | (at $0.38/each) |
| 01:42.13 | simonrvn | find yourself a nice linux admin job ;P |
| 01:42.41 | fluffy_wolf | do such things exist? :P |
| 01:43.17 | simonrvn | yeh. don't ask me where though ;) |
| 01:43.56 | fluffy_wolf | heh |
| 01:44.59 | fluffy_wolf | what do you do for work? |
| 01:45.32 | simonrvn | nothing stable really :/. i do the odd admin stuff for some non-profits |
| 01:47.01 | fluffy_wolf | heh. only non-profit-ish I've worked for was a church (I don't call churches non-profit. they seem to have far more money than any other industry...) who wanted me to hack together a modified squid daemon and some php for an anti-porn project... |
| 01:47.13 | fluffy_wolf | charged them $1000 for it. :) |
| 01:47.24 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 01:47.50 | simonrvn | there's very few that i'll deal with here |
| 01:48.47 | fluffy_wolf | the concept was people sign up for the service, and set their browser to use the church's proxy server. then, any time they visit a web site, it gets logged by squid, of course. the php part of it was a portal to the logs, where you type in the name of your neighbor, spouse, whatever, and can see all the web sites they've loaded. |
| 01:49.02 | simonrvn | eew |
| 01:49.55 | fluffy_wolf | i.e. "Oh god! Did you know that Maude down the street visited a dating tips site? at her age?" |
| 01:50.13 | simonrvn | invasion of privacy... |
| 01:51.44 | fluffy_wolf | it was entirely voluntarily. |
| 01:51.55 | fluffy_wolf | you had to sign up for it |
| 01:52.10 | simonrvn | i'd consider it invasive. aah, ok |
| 01:53.13 | fluffy_wolf | why you would sign up (and PAY?!) for a service that let anyone on the planet view your web usage is beyond me. :P |
| 01:53.22 | fluffy_wolf | (then again, livejournal makes a fair profit...) |
| 01:53.53 | simonrvn | then again, i don't use my blog/brant that way ;) |
| 01:54.17 | simonrvn | afk, need food |
| 01:54.32 | fluffy_wolf | lol |
| 01:54.58 | fluffy_wolf | I don't have a blog... somehow I just can't relate to people who think that what they found in their nosehair matters to the rest of the world. |
| 01:56.08 | simonrvn | hehehe. i *hate* that kind of crap. annoys the hell out of me. i use it for quickly writing up a page |
| 01:56.44 | simonrvn | informational stuff, or news, or something of the sort. i keep my private stuff private ;) |
| 01:57.21 | fluffy_wolf | heh |
| 01:58.12 | fluffy_wolf | only time I've ever posted anything personal to a public site was on a discussion about... umm... toy reviews. :) |
| 01:58.34 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 02:41.51 | simonrvn | ah, much better |
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| 03:01.09 | Hentai | Hello there |
| 03:02.55 | Hentai | anyone here? |
| 03:03.02 | simonrvn | no |
| 03:03.09 | Hentai | dang |
| 03:03.11 | Hentai | bbl then |
| 03:03.18 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 03:03.22 | Hentai | lol |
| 03:03.25 | Hentai | anyways |
| 03:03.36 | Hentai | can anyone help me with my old school mac clone? |
| 03:03.42 | simonrvn | just ask |
| 03:03.46 | Hentai | ok then |
| 03:04.00 | Hentai | I need help with trying to get the debian boot floppys |
| 03:04.04 | Hentai | which do I need? |
| 03:04.10 | Hentai | my mac Os install is fubared |
| 03:04.20 | Hentai | and I don't feel like fixing it |
| 03:05.18 | Hentai | did I mention I'm not that smart |
| 03:06.46 | simonrvn | @sarge daily snapshots |
| 03:06.47 | ravenbird | get your daily sarge PPC builds at http://people.debian.org/~luther/debian-installer/daily-powerpc-built/daily/powerpc/ |
| 03:06.59 | simonrvn | get some there, under floppy24/ |
| 03:07.22 | Hentai | huh ok |
| 03:07.35 | Hentai | bad url ravenbird |
| 03:08.24 | Hentai | oh wait |
| 03:08.35 | Hentai | man is ravenbird a bot simonrvn? |
| 03:08.46 | simonrvn | yes |
| 03:08.58 | simonrvn | oh. ok. lemme check it |
| 03:09.03 | Hentai | well that url don't work here |
| 03:11.08 | simonrvn | @sarge daily snapshots s#/debian-installer/daily-powerpc-built/daily/powerpc/#/d-i/images/daily/powerpc# |
| 03:11.15 | simonrvn | @sarge daily snapshots =~ s#/debian-installer/daily-powerpc-built/daily/powerpc/#/d-i/images/daily/powerpc# |
| 03:11.16 | Hentai | woH |
| 03:11.16 | ravenbird | simonrvn: OK |
| 03:11.23 | simonrvn | @sarge daily snapshots |
| 03:11.24 | ravenbird | get your daily sarge PPC builds at http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc |
| 03:11.32 | simonrvn | that should work |
| 03:11.44 | Hentai | yes |
| 03:11.48 | Hentai | thanks simonrvn |
| 03:12.03 | Hentai | also simonrvn does this floopy work with other linux distros? |
| 03:12.08 | Hentai | err |
| 03:12.14 | Hentai | can I use it to isntall other ones? |
| 03:12.19 | simonrvn | no |
| 03:12.28 | simonrvn | debian installer, hence installs debian |
| 03:12.43 | Hentai | hmm |
| 03:13.19 | Hentai | I heard that there was boot floppys from debian that could help me load other linuxes like gentoo or suse |
| 03:13.28 | simonrvn | bullshit |
| 03:13.32 | Hentai | I know the guy at gentoo told me that |
| 03:13.37 | Hentai | and pointed me here |
| 03:13.41 | simonrvn | he's full of it |
| 03:13.52 | Hentai | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-powerpc/current/powermac/ |
| 03:14.00 | Hentai | ok.... |
| 03:14.22 | Hentai | does this install quik? |
| 03:14.23 | simonrvn | that's woody. i pointed you at sarge. which is better for desktop machines |
| 03:14.40 | simonrvn | yes |
| 03:16.34 | Hentai | if it install quik then shouldn't I be able to install other linuxes to simonrvn ? |
| 03:16.48 | simonrvn | quik is a bootloader |
| 03:16.51 | Hentai | sorry I'm a noob to ppc |
| 03:17.16 | simonrvn | yeh, sure. so why are you in #gentoo-ppc? :) |
| 03:17.30 | Hentai | getting info |
| 03:17.34 | Hentai | looking for info |
| 03:17.44 | Hentai | I was thinking of useing gentoo for this system |
| 03:17.55 | Hentai | I did it on x86 once |
| 03:18.01 | Hentai | but its been a while |
| 03:18.09 | Hentai | its a old mac clone |
| 03:18.15 | Hentai | umax c600 |
| 03:18.22 | Hentai | 603e @ 180mhz |
| 03:18.25 | Hentai | 96mb ram |
| 03:19.45 | Hentai | orginal intent for this PPC box was windows NT 4 simonrvn |
| 03:20.53 | simonrvn | haha. win nt 4 was barely usable on mac ppc - and i don't think it ran on mock os boxen, only on boxen that could run aix |
| 03:22.11 | Hentai | RS\6000 |
| 03:22.14 | Hentai | I know |
| 03:22.33 | Hentai | also looking for a alpha and a MIPS system |
| 03:22.58 | Hentai | so simonrvn which disk will I need to get quik on the mac? |
| 03:23.46 | simonrvn | root, boot, net-drivers.bin. guess which one is the boot image? |
| 03:24.25 | Hentai | boot |
| 03:24.46 | Hentai | I'll just start expermenting |
| 03:24.53 | Hentai | get phyiscal with it |
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| 03:25.32 | simonrvn | there ya go |
| 03:28.01 | Hentai | best I can do is fubared my mac again |
| 03:28.34 | simonrvn | as long as the floppies are ok, and the images are intact, it should work well |
| 03:39.48 | Hentai | gotcha |
| 03:44.38 | Hentai | hmm |
| 03:44.59 | Hentai | anyone know any way to write a .img file to a floppy in Dos or if its possible? |
| 03:47.09 | Hentai | simonrvn is holding f down booting from floppy? |
| 03:47.13 | simonrvn | rawrite |
| 03:47.21 | Hentai | did it allreayd |
| 03:47.24 | simonrvn | no. it'll do that auto |
| 03:47.27 | Hentai | ok |
| 03:47.46 | simonrvn | @sarge install guide |
| 03:47.47 | ravenbird | go see http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ for the install guide. http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/index.html |
| 03:48.00 | Hentai | woot |
| 03:48.06 | Hentai | oh yeah baby |
| 03:48.15 | simonrvn | heh |
| 03:48.31 | Hentai | its booting |
| 03:48.42 | Hentai | w\e its supoose to be |
| 03:48.53 | Hentai | ok? |
| 03:48.59 | Hentai | it threw the disk out |
| 03:49.04 | Hentai | so I guess I need root now |
| 03:49.15 | simonrvn | it's asking for it? |
| 03:49.18 | Hentai | no |
| 03:49.28 | Hentai | its just at a pengiun by a puter icon |
| 03:49.32 | simonrvn | what do you see on screen? |
| 03:49.37 | Hentai | that^ |
| 03:49.42 | Hentai | right in the middle |
| 03:49.42 | simonrvn | with a red x or no? |
| 03:49.47 | Hentai | nothing else |
| 03:49.55 | simonrvn | it stopped? |
| 03:50.00 | Hentai | guess so |
| 03:50.13 | simonrvn | ok, sec. i'll find the rc3 floppy images |
| 03:50.19 | Hentai | ok |
| 03:51.49 | simonrvn | meh |
| 03:51.57 | simonrvn | same place as ^^ |
| 03:52.22 | Hentai | ok |
| 03:52.26 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 03:52.53 | Hentai | hmm |
| 03:53.05 | Hentai | what's the difference between floppy and floppy-2.4 ? |
| 03:53.54 | simonrvn | former is 2.6.x kernel |
| 03:54.01 | Hentai | ok |
| 03:54.07 | simonrvn | http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/2005-02-01/ # could try that... |
| 03:54.12 | Hentai | well it boots the boot.img disk |
| 03:54.49 | simonrvn | http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/new-2.4-kernels/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ # might be the same |
| 03:55.46 | Hentai | ok |
| 03:55.46 | simonrvn | or this http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/miboot/ |
| 03:55.59 | Hentai | thanks |
| 03:56.06 | Hentai | hopefully I can get this to work |
| 03:56.36 | simonrvn | funny part is that this used to work with no problems. then all sorts of problems started coming out |
| 03:56.46 | Hentai | dang |
| 03:57.01 | Hentai | new kernel? |
| 03:57.05 | Hentai | oh wait |
| 03:57.09 | Hentai | that dosen't make sence |
| 03:57.10 | simonrvn | what would help is getting some sort of legal-problem-free-mod-ofmiboot-but-isnt-miboot thing working |
| 03:57.20 | simonrvn | it's 2.4 |
| 03:57.25 | Hentai | yeah |
| 03:58.00 | Hentai | trying the miboot one |
| 03:59.51 | Hentai | wow |
| 03:59.58 | Hentai | got a red X this time simonrvn |
| 04:00.04 | Hentai | with the miboot one |
| 04:00.25 | simonrvn | well, try each until you get a good one *shrug* |
| 04:00.51 | Hentai | I am |
| 04:00.59 | Hentai | uh oh |
| 04:01.07 | Hentai | how do I eject this disk |
| 04:01.10 | Hentai | oh great |
| 04:01.21 | simonrvn | hold down mouse button, or use paper clip |
| 04:01.30 | Hentai | ok |
| 04:02.01 | Hentai | mouswe button worked |
| 04:06.16 | Hentai | man mac has some odd stuff |
| 04:07.11 | Hentai | argh |
| 04:07.29 | Hentai | nothing with the 2nd to last |
| 04:07.34 | Hentai | just froze |
| 04:07.49 | Hentai | still penguin by computer icon |
| 04:07.55 | Hentai | with stupid background |
| 04:09.59 | assassin | mac > * |
| 04:10.17 | Hentai | what assassin ? |
| 04:10.31 | assassin | nothing... just some zelotry comming out ;) |
| 04:10.40 | Hentai | didn't make sence to me |
| 04:10.50 | simonrvn | "sense" |
| 04:11.12 | simonrvn | translation: "mac is better than everything" |
| 04:11.22 | Hentai | oh fudge that |
| 04:11.26 | simonrvn | > being the mathematical symbol |
| 04:11.37 | assassin | * being a glob symbol |
| 04:12.22 | Hentai | not here |
| 04:12.28 | Hentai | give me a x86 anyday |
| 04:15.13 | Hentai | wow |
| 04:15.16 | Hentai | I got something |
| 04:15.20 | Hentai | its odd |
| 04:15.54 | Hentai | right before I saw what seemed to be linux booting then it swticed the screen over to something else |
| 04:16.19 | Hentai | let me see if I hookup my monitor the orginal vid card if it does something else |
| 04:17.25 | Hentai | also it seem to access the cd drive |
| 04:18.50 | Hentai | this is with the older release simonrvn |
| 04:19.38 | Hentai | hmm |
| 04:19.49 | Hentai | you know why it trys to access the cd drive? |
| 04:20.02 | Hentai | hmm |
| 04:20.04 | Hentai | weird |
| 04:20.09 | Hentai | it hasn't locked up |
| 04:20.17 | Hentai | but the screen isn't there |
| 04:20.41 | simonrvn | shouldn't be. you sure you got the right image? |
| 04:20.51 | Hentai | huh |
| 04:20.55 | Hentai | I have this one |
| 04:21.03 | Hentai | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-powerpc/current/powermac/ |
| 04:21.22 | simonrvn | ah, ok. yeh. you could use that, and upgrade to sarge afterwards |
| 04:21.43 | Hentai | atleast its going somewhere |
| 04:21.45 | Hentai | :D |
| 04:22.11 | simonrvn | to upgrade |
| 04:22.17 | simonrvn | @woody->sarge |
| 04:22.21 | simonrvn | ravenbird: woody->sarge |
| 04:22.24 | Hentai | lol |
| 04:22.27 | simonrvn | ravenbird: woody->sarge |
| 04:22.27 | ravenbird | from memory, woody->sarge is edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" or "stable" to "sarge", or "testing". testing *is* sarge currently.. Then "apt-get update" and "apt-get dselect-upgrade". |
| 04:22.57 | simonrvn | there. theres a bug with commandchar (in this case '@' and the '->') |
| 04:23.46 | Hentai | ok |
| 04:23.58 | Hentai | woah nopw that's off abir |
| 04:24.08 | simonrvn | what? |
| 04:24.24 | Hentai | waohj |
| 04:24.26 | Hentai | its botting |
| 04:24.30 | Hentai | yes yes |
| 04:24.34 | Hentai | its booted |
| 04:24.54 | simonrvn | cool. FYI, you'll want a 2.4.x kernel the 2.2 ones are freaking slow |
| 04:25.02 | Hentai | gotcha |
| 04:25.08 | Hentai | but remmeber I'm a noob |
| 04:25.10 | Hentai | aya |
| 04:25.16 | Hentai | you want any of this info? |
| 04:25.21 | simonrvn | it's easy |
| 04:25.29 | simonrvn | nah, it's ok |
| 04:25.33 | Hentai | well |
| 04:25.34 | Hentai | ok |
| 04:25.55 | simonrvn | the install guide for woody is ... |
| 04:25.59 | simonrvn | @install guide |
| 04:26.00 | ravenbird | extra, extra, read all about it, install guide is http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ or http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst or if you're totally clueless read http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2016&page=1 too |
| 04:26.36 | Hentai | oh great |
| 04:26.43 | Hentai | how do I use a .bin file? |
| 04:26.54 | Hentai | how do I get it to a floppy? |
| 04:26.55 | simonrvn | same way |
| 04:26.59 | simonrvn | rawrite |
| 04:27.01 | Hentai | well rawwrite dies |
| 04:27.13 | simonrvn | don't pass any options to it |
| 04:27.30 | Hentai | oh nevermind |
| 04:27.37 | Hentai | its workoing now |
| 04:27.46 | Hentai | heh I been a windows kid for a while now |
| 04:27.55 | simonrvn | my condolences |
| 04:27.59 | simonrvn | ;) |
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| 04:28.32 | simonrvn | tired of the worms, viruses and other nasties? |
| 04:29.43 | Hentai | what? |
| 04:29.45 | Hentai | no |
| 04:29.53 | Hentai | I just didn't like Mac OS |
| 04:29.58 | simonrvn | something to try out? |
| 04:30.01 | Hentai | and don't have a BeOS pro disk |
| 04:30.01 | simonrvn | ah ok |
| 04:30.09 | Hentai | I still likw windows |
| 04:30.18 | Hentai | can't wait for 64bit to come out |
| 04:30.30 | Hentai | also I want a windows CE terminal |
| 04:30.34 | assassin | send him over too ubuntu :P |
| 04:30.49 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 04:30.52 | Hentai | why? |
| 04:30.58 | Hentai | what will they do there? |
| 04:31.01 | simonrvn | ubuntu doesn't do oldworld i think. does it? |
| 04:31.12 | assassin | no |
| 04:31.14 | Hentai | assassin you dislike me? |
| 04:31.40 | assassin | on the contrary ;) |
| 04:31.56 | assassin | I dislike everyone equally :) |
| 04:31.58 | Hentai | ok... |
| 04:32.01 | Hentai | lol |
| 04:32.20 | Hentai | well I told you guys allreayd about my windows NT on mips, ppc, and alpha thing |
| 04:32.56 | Hentai | oh god its red |
| 04:33.10 | Hentai | so |
| 04:33.19 | Hentai | anyone want to help me setup this old distro? |
| 04:33.26 | Hentai | oh wait |
| 04:34.54 | Hentai | ok guys |
| 04:35.02 | Hentai | I need to paritition my hdd |
| 04:35.06 | Hentai | whatca think |
| 04:35.09 | Hentai | 1.2gb hdd |
| 04:35.24 | Hentai | I could put another HDD in there should I? |
| 04:36.40 | assassin | Well, what do you plan on using it for? |
| 04:36.56 | Hentai | I want atleast some gui |
| 04:37.13 | Hentai | don't think KDE would be good in this case |
| 04:37.16 | simonrvn | 1.2 is plenty for now |
| 04:37.23 | Hentai | what about XFCE? |
| 04:37.34 | simonrvn | base woody install with x is ~250 MB |
| 04:37.43 | Hentai | any recommendations? |
| 04:37.54 | simonrvn | sarge is about the same, maybe a bit more |
| 04:37.57 | assassin | fluxbox is a nice minimal wm |
| 04:38.05 | simonrvn | no, woody is about 150-180, sorry |
| 04:38.17 | Hentai | hmm will check it out |
| 04:38.32 | Hentai | if I get this installed I'm gonna be happpy with myself |
| 04:38.39 | Hentai | err proud of myslef |
| 04:39.05 | Hentai | hmm |
| 04:39.08 | Hentai | brb |
| 04:39.18 | Hentai | need to get the 50 foot cat5 |
| 04:47.42 | Hentai | oh crap |
| 04:47.47 | Hentai | so I should use quik |
| 04:47.49 | Hentai | but |
| 04:48.03 | simonrvn | yes |
| 04:48.12 | Hentai | I have no idea what this means |
| 04:48.25 | simonrvn | upgrade to sarge after you reboot it, and check the OF/nvram settings |
| 04:48.36 | simonrvn | do the last first ;) |
| 04:49.00 | simonrvn | so: check OF/nvram; correct if necessary; reboot; upgrade to sarge |
| 04:49.35 | Hentai | If you intend to use Quik as your bootloader, do not create a seperate /boot partition. Also, the root partition should precede other linux partitions on the disk becasue Quick writes the boot blovk to it. |
| 04:50.00 | Hentai | I have no idea what you mean about that |
| 04:50.16 | Hentai | oh man I'm fubared |
| 04:51.04 | Hentai | well |
| 04:51.21 | Hentai | should I get rid of all thses apple partitions, guys? |
| 04:51.58 | simonrvn | uh, yeh. zap it with 'i', then create partitions |
| 04:52.11 | Hentai | ok |
| 04:52.15 | Hentai | I |
| 04:52.18 | Hentai | opps |
| 04:52.44 | Hentai | initialize partition map ? |
| 04:52.56 | Hentai | y |
| 04:53.13 | simonrvn | yes |
| 04:53.34 | Hentai | ok I still have partitions there |
| 04:53.36 | simonrvn | then, 'c', select 2p, etc. |
| 04:53.47 | Hentai | ok |
| 04:54.21 | Hentai | hmm |
| 04:54.25 | Hentai | length |
| 04:54.29 | Hentai | what should I give? |
| 04:54.39 | Hentai | 500MB? |
| 04:55.01 | simonrvn | http://www.penguinppc.org/bootloaders/quik/quirks.php |
| 04:55.07 | simonrvn | http://www.penguinppc.org/bootloaders/quik/ |
| 04:56.12 | simonrvn | http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.shtml |
| 04:56.17 | Hentai | oh great |
| 04:56.20 | simonrvn | ignore the bit about 'b' |
| 04:56.29 | simonrvn | that's for newworld only |
| 04:56.53 | Hentai | ok |
| 04:57.01 | Hentai | but isn't that for yaboot? |
| 04:57.06 | Hentai | does it apply here to? |
| 04:57.44 | simonrvn | yes. but the 'b' in mac-fdisk is for yaboot bootstrap partition. which isn't needed |
| 04:57.50 | simonrvn | here |
| 04:58.06 | Hentai | ok |
| 04:58.19 | Hentai | this is gonna be a long night |
| 05:01.23 | Hentai | well simonrvn I appericate the help |
| 05:01.32 | Hentai | also assassin thanks for yours too |
| 05:10.15 | simonrvn | ok |
| 05:16.22 | assassin | np |
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| 08:20.00 | Ubabe | assassin! yet another crazy nick! :D |
| 08:21.37 | assassin | indeed |
| 08:22.18 | assassin | :) |
| 08:25.19 | Ubabe | i need some power PC extra reposotory help |
| 08:25.40 | assassin | shoot |
| 08:25.52 | Ubabe | any idea where I can find one that isnt just for i586? |
| 08:26.03 | assassin | You mean debian? |
| 08:26.11 | assassin | almost anywhere |
| 08:26.50 | assassin | oh wait... do you mean contrib? |
| 08:26.55 | Ubabe | i found out that my Linux extra repositories dont supply for Power PC just i586 |
| 08:26.59 | Ubabe | lemme see... |
| 08:28.09 | Ubabe | ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/ im guessing this repository isn't for power PC users |
| 08:28.11 | Ubabe | ? |
| 08:28.35 | Bor_Ed | deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/ |
| 08:28.36 | Bor_Ed | deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
| 08:28.48 | Bor_Ed | that's what you were after anyway |
| 08:29.38 | Ubabe | yes yes! im gonna try them, the thing is that there are 5 repsitories that don't wanna work, thats just 2... |
| 08:29.45 | Ubabe | lemme see if i can find the others... |
| 08:30.00 | Bor_Ed | I'm using the one I pasted and it's pretty up to date |
| 08:30.49 | Ubabe | lemme get the errors, error #1 |
| 08:30.51 | Ubabe | Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_stable_main_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 08:31.07 | Bor_Ed | you probably have typo there |
| 08:31.21 | Bor_Ed | copy/paste directly |
| 08:31.51 | Ubabe | ...i thought so; error#2 Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_unstable_main_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 08:32.36 | Ubabe | error #3: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_testing_main_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 08:32.43 | Bor_Ed | Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Sources |
| 08:32.43 | Bor_Ed | Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Release |
| 08:32.47 | eddyp | works for me |
| 08:32.47 | Bor_Ed | it has a hit at least here |
| 08:32.54 | Ubabe | 2 more! sorry for flooding... |
| 08:33.02 | Ubabe | ...thing is though there i586 resources |
| 08:33.10 | Ubabe | but not ppc resources :( |
| 08:33.28 | Bor_Ed | the earlier url on the first paste is ppc pool address |
| 08:35.04 | Ubabe | error #4: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_testing_main_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 08:35.16 | Bor_Ed | it's unstable, not testing |
| 08:35.26 | Ubabe | and error #5: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net warty-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net_ubuntu_dists_warty-backports_main_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 08:35.28 | eddyp | you could try pinning |
| 08:35.33 | Ubabe | pinning? |
| 08:35.46 | Bor_Ed | and nerim.net doesn't have ppc builds ... |
| 08:35.46 | eddyp | google for apt-pinning |
| 08:35.57 | Bor_Ed | just copy/paste the lines I gave in the beginning |
| 08:36.45 | Bor_Ed | ouch, that could do it |
| 08:36.53 | Ubabe | ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Sources <-- this one |
| 08:37.01 | Ubabe | ? |
| 08:37.04 | Bor_Ed | that's source... |
| 08:37.26 | Ubabe | ...and this one: Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Release |
| 08:37.34 | Bor_Ed | deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/ <<-- is ppc built |
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| 08:57.26 | Ubabe | Bor_Ed: i just got the error "Malformed line 29 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)" when i went to load Synaptic Package Manager |
| 08:57.55 | Bor_Ed | hmm, such line probably will get just ignored |
| 08:58.12 | Ubabe | and it goes on: "The list of sources could not be read. Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem." |
| 08:58.42 | Bor_Ed | hmmm, you added the line(s) on some tool ? |
| 08:59.25 | assassin | gotta learn the vi babe |
| 08:59.30 | Ubabe | yeap i used the following command while logged in as root: |
| 08:59.48 | Bor_Ed | assassin, nano does well too on such |
| 08:59.50 | Ubabe | sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:00.17 | Ubabe | i used gedit, should work, yeah?! :P |
| 09:00.22 | Bor_Ed | that should work |
| 09:00.26 | assassin | indeed... vi's 13373r ;) |
| 09:00.41 | Bor_Ed | nano-tiny pwnage |
| 09:00.42 | Ubabe | i got that from the Unofficial Ubuntu 4.1.0 Starter Guide |
| 09:01.09 | Bor_Ed | I don't know if debian sources work at all on ubuntu |
| 09:01.31 | assassin | I wouldn't think so |
| 09:04.55 | Ubabe | well it doesnt seem to me that the sources failed to work, its more like they coudnt be read, is this one in the same though? |
| 09:07.07 | Bor_Ed | well at least debian/unstable reads the sources just fine |
| 09:11.31 | Ubabe | mind me asking, newbie qn: what is debian/unstable? |
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| 09:12.37 | assassin | unstable is basically new binaries |
| 09:12.46 | assassin | they're kinda apt to breakage |
| 09:12.58 | assassin | stable garuntee's security |
| 09:13.03 | Ubabe | i see |
| 09:13.04 | Ubabe | aha |
| 09:13.09 | assassin | and testing is kinda stable |
| 09:13.18 | assassin | w/o the security |
| 09:13.40 | Ubabe | well ill i feel i need now though is resources that match my distribution and my processor, does this sound about right? |
| 09:13.55 | Ubabe | ill=all |
| 09:14.11 | assassin | what's your distro? |
| 09:14.17 | assassin | ubuntu? |
| 09:14.53 | Ubabe | yep Ubuntu PPC |
| 09:15.13 | assassin | well, I'm sorry, but nothing in our repo's can help you |
| 09:15.57 | Bor_Ed | that's what I thought too |
| 09:16.49 | Ubabe | hrm, ill google about |
| 09:18.17 | assassin | In the meantime, we are able to provide support on debian installs |
| 09:18.27 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 09:18.29 | assassin | and debian p4wns ubuntu |
| 09:18.48 | knife|pbook | every *nix besides Mac OS X hates my PowerBook |
| 09:18.59 | knife|pbook | everything except OS X produces disk errors up the wazoo |
| 09:19.06 | Bor_Ed | I see this ubuntu thingy pretty much like RH/mandrake was in the 90's |
| 09:19.24 | Madkiss | What is DRC and where in the Kernel do I disable it or increase the DRC level? |
| 09:19.35 | assassin | People still use Mandark? :o |
| 09:19.47 | Bor_Ed | pretty much actually |
| 09:20.53 | Bor_Ed | 3.0 has gone to r4 nowadays ? it has 2.2.25 or so kernel ? :P |
| 09:20.54 | assassin | luser ;P |
| 09:21.07 | assassin | they have 2.4 |
| 09:21.13 | Bor_Ed | sheesh :o |
| 09:21.31 | Bor_Ed | well I'm pretty happy with 2.6.12-rc1-bk1 on debian unstable |
| 09:22.14 | Madkiss | What advantages does it have over 2.6.11.5, then? |
| 09:22.33 | assassin | I've got OSX for a desktop... stable's my server |
| 09:22.35 | Bor_Ed | this doesn't get laggy on heavy load |
| 09:22.50 | Madkiss | Neither does mine |
| 09:23.14 | Bor_Ed | oh, and this was just most recent tree when I picked for upgrade |
| 09:24.47 | Madkiss | bah, what is this "DRC Range"? |
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| 09:33.34 | Bor_Ed | no idea... some fancy acronym :o |
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| 09:48.10 | assassin | argh! |
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| 10:06.53 | assassin | silly users... ubuntu's for kids |
| 10:26.56 | bioterror | ubuntu is possible the easiest way to learn a better distro |
| 10:27.26 | bioterror | by this I mean non-rpm based |
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| 10:42.39 | simonrvn | bioterror: i started on debian. haven't looked back |
| 10:45.19 | assassin | I don't think apt is a good qualitative measure of a distro... |
| 10:49.44 | assassin | I also predict the death of ubuntu once sarge is released |
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| 10:59.21 | bioterror | I started with Red Hat 5.2, tried Madrake 8 or something and then Debian. but nowdays I'm more *BSD-user |
| 11:00.07 | bioterror | but I use Debian in my 8200/120 becouse I have to ;) |
| 11:02.03 | assassin | BSD's cool |
| 11:03.40 | bioterror | yeah, FreeBSD is good for beginners ;) |
| 11:03.50 | bioterror | sysinstall does most the things |
| 11:05.35 | al_ | (why would ubuntu die after sarge is released ?) |
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| 11:11.50 | bluewheel | can anyone tell me a good place to get PPC kernel configs from ? |
| 11:12.12 | bluewheel | i have a powerbook G4 and am trying to get thermal management support and DRI working with my Radeon 7500 |
| 11:12.19 | simonrvn | try a kernel-image deb |
| 11:12.25 | bluewheel | i tried googleing but wanted to know of any decent sources |
| 11:13.08 | bluewheel | kenrel-image deb does not have the cpufrequency scaling, compiling my own seems to break all the time, I don't know what it's doing wrong. wanted to know of a listing of configs ? |
| 11:13.48 | simonrvn | there is no "listing". build it off the kernel-image |
| 11:14.03 | bluewheel | ok i will give that a try :-) |
| 11:14.07 | bluewheel | cheers |
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| 12:04.46 | assassin | woah... gimp2 selection paths rule |
| 12:05.07 | assassin | They finally made it not suck |
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| 13:17.53 | Clarence | hi. anybody has working built-in microphone on a Ibook G3 with alsa? |
| 13:20.58 | dj-death | mine is working on ibook G4 |
| 13:21.08 | dj-death | with alsa |
| 13:21.58 | Clarence | what version of alsa? any special configuration? |
| 13:22.59 | dj-death | kernel 2.6.9 |
| 13:23.04 | dj-death | no special configuration |
| 13:23.12 | dj-death | but |
| 13:23.15 | dj-death | in alsamixer |
| 13:23.25 | dj-death | you need to select input source to mic |
| 13:23.38 | dj-death | by default it's set to line |
| 13:23.52 | dj-death | and monitor must be raised |
| 13:23.59 | Clarence | I ve 2.6.11 with alsa 1.0.8 and no input option in alsa mixer |
| 13:24.11 | dj-death | hmmm |
| 13:24.15 | dj-death | strange ... |
| 13:25.05 | Clarence | and listing devices with "arecord -l" gives me no results |
| 13:28.20 | Clarence | is necessary any alsa or oss module for audio input? |
| 13:30.58 | dj-death | no |
| 13:31.10 | dj-death | just snd-powermac |
| 13:32.51 | Clarence | umm i've snd-powermac among others |
| 13:45.10 | Hentai | if I don't want mac OS do I need any of its partitions? |
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| 14:03.44 | pahartik | "linphone 1.0.1-1" works fine on my iBook G4 but... not on older PowerMacintosh systems... trying to figure out why |
| 14:04.21 | Bor_Ed | pahartik, http://irc-vaasa.com/reminder.jpg ? :) |
| 14:05.01 | Q-FUNK | ALSA broken? |
| 14:05.19 | Bor_Ed | could be dmasound duplex issue though |
| 14:05.20 | Q-FUNK | Hentai: you at least need the first partition. |
| 14:05.50 | Q-FUNK | Hentai: so that is the first small partition must remain intact, then the second partition as your root, thne the 3rd as your swap. |
| 14:06.22 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: have you tried it? |
| 14:07.32 | Q-FUNK | pahartik: no since I know thta ALSa support is broken on this iMac. |
| 14:08.38 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: no audio at all? |
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| 14:09.37 | misfitx7 | can i mount an hfs partition in the sarge installer? |
| 14:11.18 | Q-FUNK | pahartik: it doesn't work without ALSA. |
| 14:12.33 | Q-FUNK | Bor_Ed: pmsg |
| 14:13.00 | Bor_Ed | script suprisingly doesn't work for a change |
| 14:13.02 | Hentai | Q-FUNK is that for quik ? |
| 14:13.07 | Hentai | that's what I'm using |
| 14:13.31 | Q-FUNK | Hentai: same thing for yaboot. Macs use the first partition as a partition table. |
| 14:13.40 | Hentai | ok |
| 14:13.46 | Hentai | so |
| 14:13.46 | Bor_Ed | Q-FUNK, you had something on yer mind ? |
| 14:14.09 | Hentai | thanks |
| 14:14.22 | Bor_Ed | /notice comes through ... |
| 14:14.23 | Q-FUNK | Bor_Ed: yes, but I keep on getting this reply that you don't take pmsg or dcc. |
| 14:14.24 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: at least audio output worked fine on older PowerMacintosh... just tried with "gxine" |
| 14:14.47 | Bor_Ed | Q-FUNK, the script is crashed for a change, I'd need to restart the client but won't bother |
| 14:17.13 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: tried both, ALSA native device and ALSA OSS emulation device... |
| 14:30.35 | Q-FUNK | pahartik: try it from xterm and see what it says? |
| 14:31.03 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: nothing |
| 14:31.16 | Q-FUNK | what about with strace? |
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| 14:38.11 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: http://zazu.vip.fi/~pahartik/problem-report/2005-03-28/linphone.strace |
| 14:39.30 | Q-FUNK | pahartik: try including that to a bug report on the linphone package. |
| 14:40.47 | Hentai | so |
| 14:41.01 | Hentai | the C and the c command are differnet during partitioning? |
| 14:41.06 | Hentai | dang it |
| 14:41.06 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I'd need to build binutils for w65816 target ... apt-get source binutils I got but from there ... |
| 14:41.27 | Q-FUNK | toolchain-source |
| 14:41.38 | Bor_Ed | ookay, lessee |
| 14:42.07 | Q-FUNK | Bor_Ed: which didn't work last time we tried, IIRC. |
| 14:42.23 | Q-FUNK | we managed to get the binutils, but not the gcc. |
| 14:42.44 | Bor_Ed | aww shite, the binutils doesn't compile lcc produced asm anyway |
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| 14:43.51 | ericb2 | hi |
| 14:43.52 | Hentai | dang it |
| 14:44.00 | Bor_Ed | another easy, how do I compile tex to html or text ? |
| 14:44.23 | mirak | hi |
| 14:44.33 | Hentai | I'm getting requested base and length is not within an existing free partition |
| 14:44.35 | mirak | anyone know if there is a way to tweak gnome-volume-manager ? |
| 14:44.53 | Hentai | dang it |
| 14:44.54 | mirak | it mounts my mp3 jukebox as async |
| 14:45.10 | mirak | that's anoying since it's fat32, and usb1 |
| 14:45.35 | mirak | all the time gained during transfert is lost during unmount |
| 14:45.46 | mirak | and I don't talk about crashes |
| 14:46.11 | Hentai | I only have two partitions |
| 14:47.13 | Hentai | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:48.18 | Hentai | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.34 | Hentai | anyone know why I can'y create a bootstrap partition? |
| 14:49.00 | Hentai | I'm trying to follow this guide |
| 14:49.01 | Hentai | http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.shtml |
| 14:50.35 | Hentai | ok nevermind |
| 14:50.37 | Hentai | got it |
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| 15:00.44 | misfitx7 | can someone give me a hand mounting an hfs partition in the sarge installer, i have no idea what im doing wrong |
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| 15:21.45 | ericb2 | cc : ping ? |
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| 15:44.00 | leolecal | i'm having some problems with Xfree here |
| 15:44.17 | leolecal | my computer is a g3 350mhz (summer) |
| 15:44.34 | leolecal | i have sarge and kernel 2.2 installed |
| 15:45.51 | leolecal | the error is: R128 cannot read V_BIOS |
| 15:45.54 | leolecal | any help? |
| 15:46.09 | Q-FUNK | leolecal: you might wanna upgrade to at least a 2.4 kernel |
| 15:46.24 | leolecal | hum. |
| 15:46.36 | leolecal | i was planning to get 2.6 |
| 15:47.02 | Q-FUNK | or 2.6 |
| 15:47.02 | leolecal | but i dont know exactly which one to have |
| 15:47.08 | leolecal | because there are this compiled ones |
| 15:48.03 | Q-FUNK | kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc |
| 15:48.17 | leolecal | this is the generic one? |
| 15:48.36 | leolecal | because i downloaded one of this and i had kernel panic |
| 15:49.45 | pahartik | leolecal: message like like this: "(EE) RADEON(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (5)"? |
| 15:52.33 | leolecal | pahartik, yes! |
| 15:54.23 | pahartik | leolecal: PowerMacintosh does not have BIOS... so it is fairly normal |
| 15:54.41 | leolecal | ehheh |
| 15:55.04 | leolecal | but how to use a x enviroment? |
| 15:56.50 | leolecal | i tried to use the gdm but, it says 'no screens found' |
| 15:57.38 | leolecal | so this problem is all about the kernel? |
| 15:58.32 | pahartik | leolecal: could be, newer kernel is good idea |
| 15:59.04 | leolecal | so, kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc should work for me? |
| 15:59.32 | Q-FUNK | leolecal: you need to configure xserver-xfree86 |
| 16:00.27 | Q-FUNK | use the framebuffer, CRT resolution is 1024x768, colour depth is 16-bit. |
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| 16:00.40 | leolecal | ok. in device i put "ati", rigth? |
| 16:00.51 | Q-FUNK | ati or devfb |
| 16:00.56 | Q-FUNK | try ati |
| 16:01.13 | leolecal | yeah, mine is ati as in lspci |
| 16:04.36 | pahartik | leolecal: you may need to specify PCI ID as well on "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" for X11 server to catch it |
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| 16:07.22 | Kilmer | sorry, my computer desconected |
| 16:10.27 | Kilmer | which kernel version should i download? |
| 16:10.36 | Kilmer | can anyone paste for me? |
| 16:11.27 | pahartik | Kilmer: kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc |
| 16:11.33 | Kilmer | thanks |
| 16:12.15 | pahartik | Kilmer: kernel-image-2.6.10-powerpc |
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| 16:14.20 | pahartik | leolecal: if either does not work for you, configure and build custom kernel |
| 16:14.46 | leolecal | yeah, i have downloaded the source one |
| 16:16.02 | ErRandir | looking for specs on the via-pmu. are they avaialbe somewhere? |
| 16:16.21 | misfitx7 | i just used apt to get hostap-src, was it compiled automaticly or do i need to compile it myself, if so where did apt put it |
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| 16:36.42 | ericb2 | bye |
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| 16:56.16 | misfitx7 | has anyone used the hostap driver on debian ppc? |
| 17:15.41 | leolecal | pahartik, i tried to download the kernel-image-2.6.10-powerpc with apt-get install but it says that couldn't find |
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| 17:24.47 | Hentai | Hello a;; |
| 17:24.52 | Hentai | Hello all |
| 17:25.09 | Hentai | anyone tell me how I can add a oldworld boot strap? |
| 17:26.22 | pahartik | leolecal: you probably do not have "sid" source defined on "/etc/apt/sources.list" |
| 17:26.56 | leolecal | pahartik how can i add this? |
| 17:28.11 | pahartik | leolecal: by editing that file |
| 17:28.36 | Hentai | anyone used any old world machines? |
| 17:30.36 | leolecal | yeah, but what do i put instead? mine is like this: deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian |
| 17:31.02 | pahartik | leolecal: http://www.nl.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto |
| 17:33.02 | Hentai | anyone worked with old world macs? |
| 17:34.21 | leolecal | k |
| 17:34.55 | pahartik | Hentai: using three of those |
| 17:39.42 | Hentai | pahartik you know how what bootstrap partition I'm suppose to use? |
| 17:40.15 | Hentai | I don't use this newWorld bootblock do I? |
| 17:40.29 | Hentai | what should I change it to? |
| 17:47.29 | pahartik | Hentai: http://zazu.vip.fi/~pahartik/nala-root-disktype |
| 17:49.12 | Hentai | pahartik what's that about? |
| 17:49.20 | Hentai | I don't understand |
| 17:49.22 | Hentai | sorry |
| 17:49.28 | Hentai | right now I have 4 partitions |
| 17:49.36 | Hentai | Partition map |
| 17:49.44 | Hentai | NewWrold bootblock |
| 17:49.48 | Hentai | linux swap |
| 17:49.51 | Hentai | minux native |
| 17:49.59 | Hentai | *linux native |
| 17:51.12 | pahartik | Hentai: well, it describes harddisk contents... |
| 17:51.25 | Hentai | don't I need a bootstrap? |
| 17:51.33 | Hentai | and a swap? |
| 17:51.44 | Hentai | I see there's a native there |
| 17:51.50 | Hentai | and the partition map |
| 17:52.05 | Hentai | pahartik I'm mew to this |
| 17:52.07 | Hentai | new |
| 17:52.29 | Hentai | also I need to use quik |
| 17:54.53 | pahartik | Hentai: there is partition map and root filesystem... and if you use OldWorld PowerMacintosh, having "Apple_Bootstrap" is not useful |
| 17:55.14 | Hentai | so I don't need it |
| 17:55.18 | Hentai | hence |
| 17:55.28 | Hentai | get rid of the bootstrap partition |
| 17:55.38 | Hentai | but I still need my sawp |
| 17:55.41 | Hentai | swap |
| 17:55.52 | Hentai | since I only have 96mb ram |
| 17:56.57 | Hentai | so where does quik go to pahartik ? |
| 17:56.58 | pahartik | Hentai: if you want to use "swap", you need "swap partition", "swap file" or "swap device" |
| 17:57.09 | Hentai | Ilinux swap? |
| 17:57.12 | Hentai | -I |
| 17:57.53 | Hentai | I have a linux swap partition |
| 17:57.56 | Hentai | 192mb |
| 17:58.08 | Hentai | so I'm getting rid of the bootstrap |
| 18:00.53 | Hentai | thanks pahartik |
| 18:00.56 | leolecal | pahartik so i downloaded the new kernel, did make, make install_modules.. now what? |
| 18:03.35 | pahartik | leolecal: i prefer using "make-kpkg" provided by "kernel-package"... but you can try it since you already installed it |
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| 18:25.14 | Hentai | hmm |
| 18:25.45 | Hentai | anyone know a good ftp or http server for installing debian from? |
| 18:26.17 | pahartik | Hentai: Debian archive mirror closest to you |
| 18:27.01 | Hentai | figures so |
| 18:28.36 | pahartik | Hentai: http://www.nl.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 18:28.48 | Hentai | thanks |
| 18:29.31 | Hentai | what's with the non-USA stuff pahartik ? |
| 18:30.17 | pahartik | Hentai: packages that cannot be exported from US |
| 18:31.09 | Hentai | should I just burn a CD with the stuff instead? |
| 18:33.02 | pahartik | Hentai: if you think you need to install more than few times or your network uplink is usually busy with more important things |
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| 18:34.41 | Hentai | yeah |
| 18:34.46 | Hentai | I'm getting the Cd |
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| 19:34.04 | grivell | arg, someone could have told me pre-empt is not a good idea on ppc ;) |
| 19:34.34 | Bor_Ed | works ok here |
| 19:34.53 | grivell | Bor_Ed: It will lead to random app segfaults. |
| 19:35.06 | Bor_Ed | umm, haven't noticed |
| 19:35.33 | grivell | Reason for knowing. Gentoo. I have it in a chroot, and GCC slamming away at a bootstrap. Random segfaults. (putting Gentoo on usb2 drive to toy with) |
| 19:35.41 | Bor_Ed | all that's crash happy here is moz... though I restart that anyway once in every 2-3 days |
| 19:36.08 | grivell | System doesn't crash. I had uptime of 9 days before kernel compile. |
| 19:36.26 | Bor_Ed | I compile pretty much that often too |
| 19:36.56 | Bor_Ed | Linux version 2.6.12-rc1-bk1 (root@g3) (gcc version 3.4.4 20050314 (prerelease)(Debian 3.4.3-12)) #1 Tue Mar 22 20:20:16 EET 2005 |
| 19:37.00 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.45 | grivell | I usually don't, but needed to remove pre-empt. And before that, needed to get sleep support. |
| 19:38.27 | grivell | Also appears kernel-2.6.11 Debian sources won't compile. |
| 19:38.28 | Bor_Ed | I might check if there's a diff when disabled... |
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| 19:48.15 | misfitx7 | i just upgraded to 2.6.8 and wireless automatically works, what driver does it use? |
| 19:48.42 | Bor_Ed | ibooks use airport as driver |
| 19:49.16 | misfitx7 | this is a g3 powerbook 1998 with a prism2 card |
| 19:49.40 | Bor_Ed | oh, might be something else then... check from lsmod |
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| 19:52.25 | Hentai | hmm |
| 19:52.32 | Hentai | do I need all 6 CDs? |
| 19:52.52 | Bor_Ed | if you plan to do networkless install, yup |
| 19:53.41 | Hentai | ok |
| 19:54.20 | grivell | misfitx7: orinoco or something. |
| 19:54.37 | misfitx7 | yeah |
| 19:54.49 | misfitx7 | thats all thats listed is orinoco |
| 19:55.44 | grivell | I had a card a while back that used that driver :) Then I used prism54's for the newer card. And now wlan-ng for my usb dongle. I've gradually degraded. |
| 20:01.51 | misfitx7 | does hostap work on ppc? |
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| 21:42.54 | fluffy_wolf | hrrmph. I don't usually watch TV, especially not cartoons... but while flipping channels at the hotel room, caught the end of something on cartoon network with a transforming wolf girl... too bad I don't know the name of it. grr. :P |
| 21:45.46 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 21:49.29 | fluffy_wolf | the credits, etc, were all in japanese... very hard to figure out what it said. :) |
| 21:50.16 | simonrvn | unless you read it |
| 21:51.27 | fluffy_wolf | I didn't have a copy of "Teach yourself japanese in the 21 seconds before the credits end" with me. |
| 21:51.42 | simonrvn | damn, too bad |
| 21:51.50 | simonrvn | heheh |
| 21:52.11 | simonrvn | you funny |
| 21:52.29 | fluffy_wolf | lol |
| 21:52.44 | fluffy_wolf | http://www.animenfo.com/anime/character/display.php?id=2816&n=rjtxlu&t=houka <== ahh, the joys of google. :P |
| 21:52.56 | simonrvn | found it? |
| 21:54.18 | fluffy_wolf | no. I pasted a completely un-related anime link with absolutely no relevance to the current discussion, even though I commented on how useful google was, with implications it can help find things. |
| 21:54.20 | simonrvn | looks like |
| 21:54.22 | simonrvn | oh |
| 21:54.42 | simonrvn | thought you might've found it |
| 21:54.49 | fluffy_wolf | yes, I did find it. :P |
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| 21:58.37 | fluffy_wolf | don't know what the show is about, but it had her changing into a wolf when they somehow ended up on a ice planet. |
| 22:03.50 | fluffy_wolf | http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/gunsafety.asp <== lol |
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| 22:09.56 | simonrvn | heh |
| 22:15.25 | simonrvn | irony in action =) |
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| 22:42.52 | misfitx7 | why isnt linux-wlan-ng included in the apt sources anymore? |
| 22:44.05 | simonrvn | @tell misfitx7 -about bts |
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| 22:58.49 | Hentai | hello |
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| 23:18.31 | Hentai | simonrvn you around? |
| 23:30.20 | fluffy_wolf | it's what I am. :P |
| 23:33.48 | Hentai | in that case |
| 23:33.54 | Hentai | its what I am |
| 23:34.43 | fluffy_wolf | heh |
| 23:41.02 | Hentai | fluffy_wolf you don't know the orginal meaning of Hentai |
| 23:44.10 | fluffy_wolf | nope, I don't. |
| 23:46.21 | fluffy_wolf | see earlier conversation about my not being able to read japanese. :) |
| 23:58.05 | fluffy_wolf | ... and are you planning on telling me what that original meaning is? :) |
