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00:03.19snooo@crontab
00:03.19ravenbirdformat: min, hour, day of month, month, day of week, command. or see cron, or see crontab demystified
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00:05.45snoooyou can use &&'s in crontab commands?
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00:28.56Hentaiwell seems like I may get another PPC pc simonrvn
00:29.06Hentaianother chance to get debianon PPC
00:29.29simonrvncool
00:29.48Hentaibad thing
00:29.53Hentaiits about the same specs
00:29.56Hentaigood thing
00:30.13Hentaiit has abit more info on it
00:30.19simonrvncool
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02:52.56Marcellus_guys... sorry, but I have no others places to ask... I'm running debian on a IBM 7248 machine. I if try a apt-get upgrade, I will have kde version 3?
02:53.21skel_homedepends on what you're upgrading from
02:53.38skel_homeand don't apologize.. this channel isn't as nearly as critical as #debian
02:53.51Marcellus_Oh... thanx. :)
02:53.53skel_homewe're asshole free!
02:54.06skel_homeMarcellus_: whats your current version?
02:54.14Marcellus_kde 2.2.2
02:54.35Marcellus_debian 3.0
02:55.01skel_homeok
02:55.03skel_homehang on
02:55.12Marcellus_ok
02:56.12skel_homeI think sarge/testing has 3
02:56.18skel_homebut I'm trying to find out
02:57.19Marcellus_I'm really new in Debian world... to get sarge/testing, I have to change /etc/apt/sources.list to include ' unstable' packets?
02:58.16skel_homeno you change "stable" or "woody" to "testing" or "sarge"
02:58.18pahartikMarcellus_: no... "sarge" is "testing", not "unstable"
02:58.22skel_homeunstable / sid is unstable
02:58.24Marcellus_ah... ok.
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02:59.44Marcellus_I tryied with ' unstable', few days ago... but kde hangs every time I started it...
03:00.44skel_homeyeah testing is much more stable =] soon to be stable
03:01.09Marcellus_I will try it, so. Thank you guys, and sorry my newbe questions... and my broken english.
03:01.10Marcellus_:)
03:01.22skel_homeno problem =]
03:01.27skel_homewhats your native tounge?
03:01.34Marcellus_tounge?
03:01.38skel_homelanguage
03:01.39skel_home=]
03:01.40Marcellus_ah.
03:01.41Marcellus_:)
03:01.46Marcellus_brazilian portuguese.
03:01.56skel_homeok =]
03:02.00Marcellus_you know... women... soccer...
03:02.03Marcellus_carnival.
03:02.05Marcellus_kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
03:02.07skel_homemy favorites =]
03:02.23Marcellus_I prefer only the women... :D
03:02.30skel_homeheheh
03:02.33Marcellus_well... thanx. I will be back soon. I hope.
03:02.35Marcellus_bye
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04:16.24simonrvn"tongue"
04:18.03skel_homesimonrvn: spellings never really been my strong suit =]
04:18.28simonrvn"s00t"
04:18.31simonrvn;p
04:18.33skel_homeheheh
04:18.42simonrvnhehe
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04:45.56skel_homeyay
04:46.01skel_homemono 1.1.6 is out
04:46.08skel_homegood news for anyone on a g3
04:46.19skel_homeyou can build now
04:47.04simonrvnwhat was the problem before?
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04:49.47skel_homedunno some bug with g3
04:49.50skel_homewouldn't build
04:50.10skel_homemiguel fixed it shortly after 1.1.5
04:50.19skel_homebut I was too lazy to grab svn
04:50.26skel_homeand wanted an "official" release
04:55.09simonrvnok
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06:58.20Hentaiis a powermac 7100 old world?
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07:21.46cuboxRagazzi aiutooo
07:22.10cuboxC'è qualcuno ke parla italiano ?
07:22.34cuboxguys I need HELP
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07:27.59fluffy_wolfanyone need an oregano model for the HC11F1?  almost done, just need to get the pin numbers right.
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07:29.16fluffy_wolf68 pins == too many!  :P
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07:31.06simonrvna who?
07:31.26dan_thello
07:31.57fluffy_wolfI'm using oregano to draw a schematic...  doesn't have the mc68hc11f1 in its library...  adding it.
07:32.19fluffy_wolfthe f1 is the version of the hc11 with more pins than chips should have.  :)
07:33.02simonrvnooh, ok
07:33.10simonrvnafk, watching a movie
07:33.51dan_ti'm trying to make my new ibook suspend with kernel 2.6.11.6 but without luck. it goes to suspend but nerver recover
07:34.02dan_tthere are any know issue with that kernel ?
07:36.32dan_tbetter, it's suspend and recover but the monitor stay black
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08:19.01simonrvndan_t: i heard some folks a while back having to modprobe -r some usb modules. but i could've heard or remembered wrong
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09:58.02DarkNoisehey, just wondering if someone can help me with the partition manager used in the debian installation
09:58.31Hentaihi
09:58.52simonrvn@sarge install guide
09:58.52ravenbirdgo see http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ for the install guide. http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/index.html
09:58.59simonrvnDarkNoise: ^^^^
09:59.24Hentaiforgot about that
09:59.24DarkNoiserightyp
10:02.41DarkNoisei just need to find out the first block of the freespace, i cant seem to find it in the documentation
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10:03.09simonrvnjust type 2p. first partition is the partition map
10:05.25Hentaigonna try netbsd on my thing maybe that will work dunno.
10:06.16simonrvnwell, reading the install guide of whatever thing you want to install is going to be necessary sooner or later. do what you like
10:08.14Hentaitrue that
10:30.26UBabeAnyone on this channel use Ubuntu?
10:30.50simonrvnno
10:30.52UBabeIm running it on a G3 laptop, all i need is to get a java plugin to work for Mozilla or a variation.
10:31.07simonrvn#ubuntu-ppc
10:31.14UBabeand im having no luck :( Ive installed Java
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10:32.02UBabeyeap  that didnt work! :P
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12:59.58snooo_is there any way to open a program in a terminal via SSH, close the SSH terminal leaving the program running but later come back to the program?
13:00.10Bor_Edapp called screen
13:00.20snooo_you can do that in screen?
13:00.23snooo_@screen
13:00.23Bor_Edyup
13:00.24ravenbirdfrom memory, screen is allows you to have 10 terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, has its own scrollback and copy/paste and let's you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or you get disconnected or http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/screen/ or at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/screen or http://mdxi.collapsar.net/brief/screen.html, or ...
13:04.35Bor_Edyou're welcome ...
13:15.15pahartikravenbird: "screen" being limited to 10 terminals is false assumption
13:15.16ravenbirdokay, pahartik
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13:15.59simonrvn@forget "screen" being limited to 10 terminals
13:15.59ravenbirdsimonrvn: i forgot "screen" being limited to 10 terminals
13:16.18simonrvn@screen =~ s/10/10 or more/
13:16.19ravenbirdsimonrvn: OK
13:18.03pahartiksimonrvn: i would say "many", "multiple" or "one or more"
13:18.24simonrvnyou know the syntax now, have fun ;)
13:18.35DarkNoiseHentai u there?
13:19.08simonrvn@screen =~ s/10 or more/multiple/
13:19.08ravenbirdOK, simonrvn
13:19.49Nichotinthe configurator that pops up when installing x-window-system, any way to re-run that?
13:20.31pahartikNichotin: maybe "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86"
13:21.46NichotinThank you, but it is not the exact same one, this one does not try to autodetect.
13:22.10NichotinI have been trying to get the control video on my 8600 to work with xfree
13:22.53pahartikNichotin: it is plain frame buffer
13:23.10Nichotinfbdev did not work either
13:24.25DarkNoisei just completed a debian-ppc install, and after ive rebooted, the system cant boot, i enabled quik etc, any ideas on how i can get it to boot?
13:24.35Nichotinuse bootx
13:24.40DarkNoisedebian is the only OS installed on the machine
13:25.00DarkNoiseand i have no macos cd =\
13:25.05Nichotina neat trick is to make a small hfs partition, and copy the contents of the disk tools floppy to it
13:25.26Nichotinyou could try the debian floppies or something
13:25.56DarkNoisehow can i make a hfs partition, i should have 10mb or so unpartitioned space on the drive
13:26.37NichotinI used the mac os cd :P
13:26.48NichotinI could send you a copy if you wish. 8.6
13:26.52Nichotini mean, 8.5
13:27.34DarkNoisephysical or iso?
13:28.02DarkNoisecos physically posting it to me wouldnt really be feesable
13:28.17Nichotiniso
13:28.32pahartikNichotin: this one has worked for me: "http://zazu.vip.fi/~pahartik/XF86Config-4-nala"
13:28.51DarkNoisewhats your upload speed?
13:28.55NichotinI think dd if=/dev/cdrom of=macos.iso should be ok
13:28.58Nichotin2mbit
13:29.02Nichotinpahartik: ah. :)
13:29.30pahartikNichotin: it is PowerMacintosh 7300
13:30.05DarkNoisehehe my down is only 1.5mbps :)
13:30.08NichotinI was lucky the other day, found a 8600 w/g4 upgrade, a beige g3 and a 7100 w/g3 upgrade in the trash at my school
13:31.10pahartikNichotin: decent workstations
13:32.36NichotinI installed gentoo on the beige one. the 8600, even with the upgrade, is much slower because of the slow bus (i think)
13:32.53NichotinI have never touched ppc this way before. Kinda cool with bootx :D
13:33.47NichotinAs I noticed, a small hfs partition with disk tools floppy and the kernel is enough
13:35.43Nichotinoh sheed. the display is all pink :D
13:38.33pahartikNichotin: try different "DefaultDepth" settings...
13:44.06DarkNoisehmm is it possible, have a partition that only loads macos essentials and bootx?
13:45.14DarkNoiseor another way to be able to boot the system
13:50.46NichotinWhat you do is that you boot the mac os 8.5 cd, scratch the disk, create a small (say 50 mb) hfs (not hfs+/extended) partition at the start of the disk
13:51.03Nichotinthen go to the cd, and find disk tools floppy under utilites
13:51.23Nichotincreate one, and copy all the stuff from the floppy to the hfs partition you made
13:51.41Nichotinthen copy all the bootx stuff into the correct place on the hfs partition as well
13:51.52Nichotinplace the kernel and initrd somehow, and boot
13:51.59Nichotinyou now have a minimal mac os with bootx
13:52.07Nichotin1.44 mb + bootx + kernels
13:52.11Nichotin:)
13:52.35Nichotinthis is the method I use for those I got, and I think it works pretty well
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15:25.09hellaishi
15:25.25hellaisI am having a problem recompiling a kernel for the ibook
15:26.03hellaisbasicly when I try to reboot it tells me that it cannot mount the correct root device
15:26.22hellaisyet I have checked and it is the correct one
15:26.34hellaiscan anyone help me
15:26.37hellais?
15:28.01hellaisanyone please
15:34.21pahartikhellais: you just need to tune your kernel configuration
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16:34.16DarkNoiseanyone here?
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16:38.43CataEnryhi all :)
16:38.54DarkNoisehi
16:39.18Hobarthey, just used the Sarge daily build business card installer on a G3/233 bondi iMac, installed great, but I cannot get X to give any display
16:39.27Hobarttried all kinds of ranges to no effect so far in the Monitors section
16:39.33Hobartanyone seen a known-good XF86Conf-4 for the iMac ?
16:40.14CataEnryjust an information please.. ;) I need a PCMCIA Wi-Fi supported on GNU/Linux ppc... Any hints?
16:40.51DarkNoisei ave a d-link DWL-650+ im going to try out soon as i got debian installed :P
16:41.31DarkNoisei know there is a sourceforge project to have d-link cards running under linux tho
16:42.46CataEnryDarkNoise: yep, that's acx100 :) but i didn't get the right way with that... have u any other hint, please? :)
16:43.25DarkNoisesorry i havent tried it out myself yet, still trying to get an os installed :)
16:43.39CataEnryah, ok, ty :)
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16:53.31CataEnrybye all
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16:59.48gobblesare you here simonrvn
17:00.44DarkNoiseyay morning!
17:00.48DarkNoise3am!
17:01.28gobblesgood morning to england and all points east of GMT
17:02.18DarkNoiseaustralia too!
17:02.21DarkNoisewoo
17:02.28gobblesok and down under too
17:02.42DarkNoisewoot
17:02.52DarkNoisenote: steve irwins zoo sucks
17:03.05gobblesis that the gator guy /
17:03.15DarkNoiseyeah the crocodile hunter guy
17:03.33gobblesim from sandiego....ours rox
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17:03.46DarkNoisehis zoo is like an hour form where i live, so i went there, ill never be back
17:03.55DarkNoisehehe
17:04.06gobblesyikes
17:04.27DarkNoiseits all for tourists
17:04.54DarkNoiseand people carrying on like steve irwin saying crikey and what not
17:04.59DarkNoisehaha
17:05.11DarkNoiseill get his jaguar to bite me on the face and see if it hurts!
17:05.39gobblespoor ausies, everyone here thinks your all like steve
17:05.47DarkNoise:( i know
17:06.30DarkNoiseits only right that he should be ripped to peices by a croc
17:06.46DarkNoiseto teach him a lesson for being a tard
17:07.22gobblestrue
17:20.13hellaispahartik: what may the problem be
17:20.15hellaispahartik: what may the problem bee
17:20.17hellaispahartik: what may the problem be
17:20.18hellais?
17:20.31hellais(sorry for the mistypos)
17:24.06netbrainanyone running debian on ibook here?
17:25.52Hobarthas anyone here gotten X to work on an imac/233?
17:26.34hellaisnetbrain:  I am
17:26.44hellaisbut I am having problems recompiling
17:26.47hellais:(
17:27.18hellaisanyway I can try helping you
17:27.28netbrainhellais:what probs you got?
17:27.34netbrainkernel?
17:27.41netbrainwhat kind of ibook you got?
17:28.37hellaisthe last one
17:28.43hellaisthink its the 3.4
17:28.52netbrainah. a newer model.
17:28.56hellaisyeah
17:29.03netbrainyou have airport working?
17:29.04hellaisbought it a month ago
17:29.07hellaisno
17:29.13netbrainoh.
17:29.13hellaisI need to recompile the kernel
17:29.15netbraink
17:29.17hellaisto make it go
17:29.31hellaisbut when I boot the debianized kernel
17:29.37netbraini can help you.. ive just installed debian like 3 times alredy on my ibook to make it all work
17:29.47hellaiscool
17:29.59hellaishow did you recompile the kernel?
17:30.13netbrainmy kernel failedf all the time when i tried to make my own from source
17:30.26hellais:\
17:30.28netbrainso what i did was. apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc
17:30.34netbrainand that fixed all..
17:30.38hellaisasd
17:30.52hellaisbut the debian kernel doesn't have wireless support
17:30.52hellais:(
17:31.02netbrainlet me guess.. your getting errors on modules? in the kernel compilation
17:31.09hellaisno
17:31.09netbrainyes it does
17:31.21hellaisthe kernel compiles clean
17:31.27hellaisbut then when I boot it
17:31.46netbrainwhat kernel you trying to compile? benh?
17:31.48hellaisit says that that it cannot  mount /dev/hda3
17:31.56hellaisas a root device
17:32.01hellais2.6.11
17:32.29netbraineither you havent installed the ata chipset support... or maybe you have forgotten the initrd.img?
17:32.51hellaishow am I supposed to make the initrd
17:32.58hellaisbecause when I make it
17:33.07hellaiswith mkinitrd -o initrd.img
17:33.10hellaisand then I boot
17:33.24netbrainlook in /boot
17:33.31hellaisit gives me errors on /lib/modules/2.6.11/cazz
17:33.32netbrainisnt there a initrd.img file there?
17:33.37hellaisyeah
17:33.49hellaisbut its the initrd for the 2.6.8
17:33.50netbrainand have you put that image in the yaboot config?
17:33.54netbrainand rerun ybin?
17:33.59hellaisyeah
17:34.11netbrainhm..
17:34.13netbrainweird..
17:34.20hellaisI know
17:34.24netbrainare you sure you got the ata chipset support?
17:34.49hellaisIll recheck
17:34.56hellaisbut I'm quite sure
17:35.00hellaiswhait a sec
17:35.27hellaisunder what is it?
17:35.33hellaisdevice drivers ?
17:35.48netbrainif you have.. then all i can do is recommend installing kernel-image.2.6.8-powerpc works perfectly with my ibook..
17:36.11netbrainand downlad kernel headers as well as kernel build and maybe even source.
17:36.13hellaisalso with the wireless
17:36.14hellais?
17:36.20netbrainyeah.. im using wlan now
17:36.24hellaiscool
17:36.27hellaislet me try
17:36.28hellais:P
17:36.34netbrainbut offcours i have an ibook g3 machine
17:36.43netbrainso my differs somewhat from yours
17:36.48netbrainmy = mine
17:37.23hellais:\
17:37.25hellaiswell
17:37.31hellaisthat is a problem
17:37.56netbrainwhy dont you try it out before you judge
17:38.09hellaismaybe
17:38.09omnisteganhey guys, can someone help me get debian installed on my g3 power mac 7100/80av? I have no netwroking and no floppy drive on the mac and it won't boot a cd.
17:38.40omnisteganwell won't boot the debian cd
17:39.24hellaishave you tryed booting it with ctrl + apple + o + f
17:39.25hellais?
17:39.39omnisteganhellais: nope but i will now
17:41.28hellais:)
17:41.30netbrainyeah.. omnistegan: use yaboot.
17:41.51hellaisnetbrain:  what is the best kernel for the ibook g4?
17:42.06hellaispower4
17:42.09hellaispower3
17:42.11hellaispowerpc
17:42.14hellaispowerpc-smp
17:42.21hellaispower4-smp
17:42.22hellais?
17:42.38omnistegannetbrain this is old world mac with os9, will yaboot boot from the cd, cuz like i said, no floppy
17:43.20netbrainhm
17:43.28netbrainyou should then use bootX
17:43.35netbrainyou dont need no cd
17:43.41netbrainyou can just run it from disk
17:43.46pahartikhellais: you can try my "/boot/config-2.6.11.6" for iBook G4
17:43.55netbraingoogle for bootx and its documentation
17:44.23netbrainis there any ibook users here who has a functioning monitor mode on the airport?
17:44.26omnistegannetbrain, run from a floppy disk
17:44.46netbrainwhat?
17:44.54omnistegani dont have a floppy drive
17:45.20hellaisk
17:45.46hellaisthnx
17:46.06pahartikhellais: i have not tried booting it yet, since my Linux 2.6.11 has not yet crashed (at wakeup) after building that
17:46.12netbrainbootx runs from floppy disk`?
17:46.22gobblesno yaboot will not boot an old workd mac
17:46.37gobblesno debian cds boot on oldworld mac period
17:47.02omnistegangobbles, how can i get the debian install to start then?
17:47.26gobblesyou have to use bootx and place the kernel in a folder in system
17:47.37omnisteganhow does bootx work? off a cd?
17:47.39netbrainargh.. cant remember.. what is the software called that enables me to use a mouse in console?? aah.. wait.. its coming to me.. is it gpm?
17:48.14gobblesno it just boots a kernel and an initrd
17:48.27gobblesand you boot to it with a cd in the cdrom
17:48.46omnistegananyone know of a program for linux to extract a .sit?
17:48.54gobblesthen after you set bootx to default to debian
17:49.09gobblesstuffit extracts sit
17:49.32omnistegani'm in debian
17:49.48Hentaiomnistegan hey
17:49.51gobblesarc maybe /
17:49.52Hentaiyour mac
17:49.55omnisteganhey Hentai
17:50.01Hentaiit uses the nubus or w\e
17:50.18Hentaiso
17:50.33Hentaiunless you get the exact linux distro fo rit
17:50.43Hentaimklinux I believe
17:50.48Hentainone other will work
17:51.18gobblesafaik you cant even boot a floppy on nubus
17:51.32Hentaiwell
17:51.33omnisteganok so task number 1 is extracting that .sit so i can burn it
17:51.46Hentaiomnistegan only mklinux runs on nubus
17:52.01Hentaidon't expect debian to
17:52.02omnisteganHentai: whats that?
17:52.13gobblessimonrvn,  has a nubus install tutorial on his site
17:52.22Hentaia linux distro built for nubus type macs
17:52.35gobblesdebian will run on nubus
17:52.51Hentaihmm
17:52.52Bor_Ednubus-pmac.sf.net has the docs and kernels for deb
17:52.56Hentaiok
17:56.46simonrvnno, i don't have a nubus tut on my site
17:56.48gobbleswhats an HPV video card ?
17:57.09gobbleswell a link to one\
17:57.14HentaiROFL
17:57.46gobblesthis link is on your front page
17:57.48gobbleshttp://www.clivemenzies.co.uk/nubus_woody.htm
17:58.30gobblesso ya technicaly its not ON your site...but the link is
17:59.41pahartikhellais: http://zazu.vip.fi/~pahartik/config-2.6.11.6-kiara-pahartik
18:00.46gobblesso whats an HPV video card ?
18:00.46omnisteganok i got that .sit extracted and I'm going to burn the files
18:01.56pahartikhellais: boots fine with "ext3" root filesystem on iBook G4, does not need "initrd" anything
18:02.39omnisteganok guys, what do i do after i boot with the bootx cd?
18:03.45gobblesyou cant boot the cd
18:03.47simonrvn"bootx cd"?
18:04.05gobblestype '/topic'
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18:04.58*** mode/#debianppc [-o simonrvn] by simonrvn
18:05.29simonrvntopi diff: -"2.6.11.5" +"2.6.11.6"
18:05.33simonrvntopic*
18:05.33gobblesi read your resume simon]
18:05.36gobblesvery nice
18:05.58omnisteganok, somebody tell me how to use bootx?
18:05.59simonrvnresume? oh, that thing.
18:06.09gobblesi never knew you were such a multi faceted human being
18:06.17simonrvnmost people are
18:06.43gobblesyou have to install bootx in os9
18:07.05omnisteganhow?
18:07.05gobblesyou install it...then put a kernel in a folder inside system
18:07.19simonrvnthe README says how
18:07.25gobblesi dunno. try clicking it
18:07.31gobblesi think that works
18:07.51omnisteganI'll try, hopefully the mac reads that there is a cd there
18:08.12gobblesya im fixing to try a nubus install
18:08.27gobbleshttp://www.clivemenzies.co.uk/nubus_woody.htm this tells you all about it
18:08.36simonrvnthe kernel has to have '.bin' tagged on the end, plus be inside a dir called "Linux Kernels" in the "System Folder" dir
18:09.34gobblesim not much of an activist, but i have my own crusade.  my major is womens studies
18:09.45simonrvncool
18:10.08gobblesill be the second man to ever have a degree in womens studies
18:10.17gobblesin colorado
18:10.29simonrvncongrats
18:10.40gobblesya well its kinda cool
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18:10.46omnistegansomehow i don't believe you
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18:10.52Tech^salvagerHello
18:10.57gobblestest me
18:10.59Tech^salvagerI'm back
18:11.29omnistegangobbles, my only problem with that statement that i can see is the date
18:11.39Tech^salvagerwhat?
18:11.51simonrvno_O
18:11.59gobblesits not so hard to believe that someone would like to improve the lives of the people they  care about
18:12.20Tech^salvagersimonrvon whats going on?
18:12.23gobblesdate /
18:12.23simonrvnTech^salvager: i saw the previous convo and i don't get what omnistegan said
18:12.34omnistegandamn the mac doesnt see the bloody cd!
18:12.50Tech^salvagerwell
18:12.52omnistegancrapcrapcrap
18:12.57simonrvnno kidding. it won't boot from a linux cd
18:13.00Tech^salvageryep
18:13.10simonrvnnot the old stuff anyway
18:13.18Tech^salvagerodd
18:13.25Tech^salvagerI learned so much yet so little
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18:13.39Tech^salvagerWB DarkNoise
18:13.43gobblesya well in colorado as of this date, there are only 2 colleges in the entire state that offer womens studies, and i attend metropolitan college of denver...the only one that offers it as a major
18:13.44DarkNoisety
18:13.50simonrvnTech^salvager: the more you learn, the more you realise how little you really do know
18:14.00Tech^salvager:'(
18:14.07DarkNoisedropped for some reason, someone prolly tripped over the router.. it sits in the middle of the hallway
18:14.11Tech^salvagerlol
18:14.12simonrvnthat goes for life, not just IT
18:14.16Tech^salvagerok
18:14.16pahartiksimonrvn: where does this requirement for ".bin" suffix for kernel images come from?
18:14.42simonrvnpahartik: no clue, but my copies of bootx have always been that way
18:15.05pahartiksimonrvn: just wondering since none of my kernels have name like that
18:15.08gobblesmac is pretty bomb isnt it Tech^salvager ?
18:15.17Tech^salvagerhuh
18:15.18Tech^salvagernah
18:15.21simonrvnpahartik: hmm. ok
18:15.28Tech^salvagerjust another arch I mess with gobbles
18:15.34DarkNoisehehe im not a fan of macs, but one came into my possession so i will make use of it
18:15.36gobblesya i know
18:15.41DarkNoisehence the removal of mac os
18:15.44Tech^salvagerlol
18:15.48gobblesi play with servers and sgi and sparc too
18:15.54Tech^salvagerohh
18:15.55Tech^salvagerSGI
18:15.57Tech^salvagerwhich?
18:16.19gobblesno idea of model, its been a while since i saw one
18:16.30gobblesim thinking to buy one for 100
18:16.31Tech^salvageroh
18:16.36Tech^salvagerI want a O2
18:16.49gobblesall i know about it is that its dual p3
18:17.11Tech^salvageroh
18:17.19Tech^salvagerprobably a 340 or 540
18:17.20gobblesand i think they run alpha
18:17.25pahartiksimonrvn: uptime of that PowerMacintosh is now 145 days, so unless BootX has changed recently...
18:17.32Tech^salvageror maybe a 320 or 520 or such
18:17.41Tech^salvagergobbles alpha?
18:17.56gobblesya alpha installs of winders or linux
18:18.02Tech^salvagerno
18:18.07Tech^salvageralpha is a cpu
18:18.15gobbleslike x86 pmac alpha
18:18.16Tech^salvagerarch
18:18.23Tech^salvageralpha is a cpu arch
18:18.36gobblesahh so they run standard x86 then
18:18.40Tech^salvageryeah
18:18.42DarkNoisep3 = x86 != alpha
18:18.44simonrvnpahartik: hm, must've been either a hacked one or unhacked. *AFAIK* my copy is unhacked
18:18.44Tech^salvagerthe one you have
18:18.45gobbleskik booty
18:18.59Tech^salvagergobbles older ones (SGI) have MIPS cpus
18:19.17Tech^salvagerlike the O2
18:19.34gobblesi had a sparc +10 and this place has a bunch of sun systems that supposedly run some type x86
18:19.54simonrvnx86 != ppc != alpha != mips/mipsel != arm/strongarm != ...
18:20.07Tech^salvageryeah I know
18:20.12DarkNoisehow wise
18:20.30Tech^salvagerlol
18:20.35gobblesbetter not get started DarkNoise ...thats an op your talking to
18:20.46Tech^salvagerI forgot that
18:20.49Tech^salvageroh crap
18:20.58simonrvnbah. s/he's behaving. leave it be
18:20.59DarkNoisehehe whos getting started where now?
18:21.02gobblesya i got reamed real good once
18:21.29DarkNoisetheres no girls on the internet, everybody knows that :(
18:21.38Tech^salvagerlol
18:21.40gobblesonly the ones in pics
18:21.45DarkNoiseyup
18:21.54Tech^salvagerthers pics on the internet?
18:21.56Tech^salvagerwhen!
18:21.59Tech^salvagerOMg
18:22.03DarkNoiseinternet is on computers now!?
18:22.08gobblestruthfully i have a friend thats a chat addict on yahoo
18:22.10simonrvnyes there are. you folks just haven't seen any women on here yet
18:22.14gobblesbut she is dog ugly
18:22.17omnisteganisnt your other alias Hentai? i assumed you knew a little about that
18:22.24DarkNoisehaha
18:22.29Tech^salvagerthats for pervet
18:22.39omnistegantry googling it
18:22.46Tech^salvagerI know what it means
18:22.46gobblesi dont get the whole cartoon sex thing
18:22.54omnisteganneither do i
18:22.55Tech^salvageralso the orginal meaning
18:22.56DarkNoisegoogling it will be useless unless he has a credit card
18:23.02Tech^salvagerROFL
18:23.08Tech^salvagerwww.wikipedia.org
18:23.11Tech^salvagerthere
18:23.13pahartikwhat is the gender of this internet?
18:23.25gobblesoh oh,
18:23.32simonrvn0
18:23.41Tech^salvagerhuh?
18:23.43Tech^salvagerw\e
18:23.43omnisteganmy girlfriend is often on #linuxforum
18:23.48Tech^salvagerwoah
18:23.51Tech^salvagerbrb
18:23.54DarkNoisehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia
18:23.57gobblesson break out the guns, been and the truck
18:24.03gobblesbrre*
18:24.07Tech^salvagerROF
18:24.09gobblesbeer*
18:24.09Tech^salvagerL
18:24.19Tech^salvagerI dislike beer
18:24.26simonrvnbeans and beer ;p
18:24.26gobblesok scotch
18:24.26omnistegani hate beer
18:24.32Tech^salvagerhate all drinks
18:24.35DarkNoisehehe i spent half my rent omoney on beer last week
18:24.36omnistegani like wine
18:24.41Tech^salvagerall
18:24.50simonrvneven water?
18:24.55Tech^salvagerno
18:24.56gobblesurine ?
18:25.01gobbles:)
18:25.02omnisteganbut thats probably cuz I'm more sophisticated then you
18:25.05DarkNoiseurine is not a drink,
18:25.17Tech^salvagergive me, me Bawls
18:25.20gobblesif your in the desert its a drink
18:25.21DarkNoisea liquid, yes, a drink.. no.
18:25.21simonrvnit's what happens after you drink ;)
18:25.33DarkNoisehehe
18:25.50omnisteganyou want to hear something ironic?
18:25.55Tech^salvagergo ahed
18:25.57DarkNoisesure
18:26.06gobblesi submit that if your alone in the mojave and without other liquids...its a lot like a fine wine
18:26.06simonrvna sledgehammer and a nail...
18:26.09omnisteganI'm watching tv and they are just talking about drinking urine
18:26.25DarkNoiselol
18:26.35Tech^salvagerwoah
18:26.46Tech^salvageron a laptop
18:26.49Tech^salvagerwith a duron
18:26.49DarkNoiseapparently, its better to drink other peoples urine than your own, if without liquids ec
18:27.01Tech^salvagerwell
18:27.02DarkNoise*etc
18:27.05gobblesyikes thats just scary
18:27.07Tech^salvagerif you only drink your own
18:27.10Tech^salvagerthat means
18:27.15Tech^salvageryour screwed
18:27.22omnisteganthe problem is that urie makes you thirsty
18:27.31omnisteganurine*
18:27.37Tech^salvagerlike soda
18:27.50Tech^salvagergive me Bawls
18:27.50gobblesmmm im thirsty...how about a nice hot cup o urine
18:27.50gobblesmmmm mmm
18:28.06DarkNoiseurine expells uneeded minerals and stuff, so drinking your own is drinking stuff u dont need, whereas drinking someone elses could be good for you...
18:28.26Tech^salvagertrue dat
18:28.43simonrvni doubt it. similar stuff that comes out
18:28.48gobblesok i apologize for starting this
18:28.52omnistegananyone want to pee in a cup and FedEx it to me?
18:29.03Tech^salvageractually DarkeNoise is more less right
18:29.11Tech^salvager......
18:29.18gobblesright more less
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18:29.45PetroHow do I mount a filesystem without user, group permissions? (Here an iPod with HFS+)
18:29.46DarkNoise=\
18:29.58Tech^salvagerhaha
18:30.02DarkNoisemount -t manners
18:30.11DarkNoisehi petro how are you/
18:30.12DarkNoise?
18:30.12gobblestikes i thought this stuff was garlic salt...turns out to be grated whole garlic...i put about 1/2 pound on spagetti last night
18:30.15Tech^salvageroh shyt
18:30.15gobblesi reek
18:30.25Tech^salvagerfire in the field
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18:30.30DarkNoise=\
18:30.31Tech^salvagerfire in the field
18:30.35PetroIt's actually mount -t hfsplus, fine how bout you?
18:30.38Tech^salvagerbeside our house
18:30.38Tech^salvagerbrb
18:30.48DarkNoisehehe
18:30.52omnistegananybody been to www.addictinggames.com recently?
18:30.53DarkNoiseim great
18:31.15DarkNoiseno but ive been to code-ninjas.com </shameless plug>
18:31.56gobblesi goto www.dimsol.net
18:32.14DarkNoiselol
18:33.35Petrofor some reason all the files on the iPod belong to root so gtkpod can't do anything with them, and I certainly don't want to run gtkpod as root *evil grin for having run KDE as root*
18:33.44DarkNoisei dont have anything to do with code-ninjas.com exactly, other than the 4 guys i live with run it, and there will be a live stream 24/7 of our lounge room up in the next couple of days
18:34.02gobblesi work for dimsol
18:34.11PetroOMG not another reality tvshow
18:34.27DarkNoisenot really reality tv
18:34.36DarkNoisejust some guys playing video games and eating pizza
18:35.05PetroOk since y'all have a bunch of great connections, I'm proud to say that my dad works at Freescale, www.freescale.com
18:35.28PetroAnd he's a test manager for powerpc chips might I add
18:35.55DarkNoiseim rpoud to say that i coded all working parts of invasion.com.au !
18:35.57Tech^salvagerwell
18:36.07Tech^salvagerI can say
18:36.16Tech^salvagerfire in the field
18:36.53Tech^salvagerdang
18:37.03Tech^salvagerfor reals a field fire
18:37.05DarkNoiseon another less stupid topic, ok, maybe more stupid, i just realised that im not sure if the sun came up today...
18:37.08Tech^salvagerits gonne now
18:37.19PetroDarkNoise: I coded all the nonworking parts on localhost.localdomain
18:37.33DarkNoiseomgwow
18:37.33Tech^salvagertime to talk about other shameless stuff
18:37.39Tech^salvagerI may move to guam
18:38.00Petrosounds exotic, does it run linux?
18:38.22Tech^salvagerI dislike linux
18:38.23DarkNoisep.s. im only wearing a towel.
18:38.28Tech^salvageryet
18:38.32Tech^salvagerI like it
18:38.58PetroI'm continuously frustrated with linux and I'm maso so I like it
18:39.02DarkNoisei should find some pants, mcdonalds opens soon
18:39.09DarkNoisehaha
18:39.21Tech^salvagermeh
18:39.27Tech^salvagerI'm a windows guy
18:39.43PetroI'm more of a Mac OS X type of guy but I dual-boot
18:39.51PetroI just love Cocoa
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18:40.48DarkNoisehttp://drkns.net/random/mug_front.jpg
18:40.52DarkNoisehttp://drkns.net/random/mug_back.jpg
18:41.24DarkNoisei love my mug
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18:42.41Petroomg lucky, where did you find that?
18:43.17DarkNoisegot it for my birthday, but u can get them from everythinglinux.com.au they have a store in sydney, i dont know if they ship overseas
18:43.40Tech^salvagerto unixey
18:43.50DarkNoisesifnt leet tho
18:44.02Tech^salvagerlol
18:44.21PetroWell I'll be going to melbourn this summer for an exchange (or winter for y'all) so maybe I'll have a chance to pass by their
18:44.32Tech^salvagerI want a honda
18:44.34Tech^salvageraccord
18:44.40DarkNoisehaha melb to sydney is a long way
18:44.44DarkNoiseunless your flying
18:45.27DarkNoisecaffine fo' lyf, how else do you think i have such a whack sleeping pattern?
18:45.33DarkNoise=p
18:45.41Tech^salvagerneed Bawls
18:45.44Petrohaha I have no f* clue where any australian cities are! I'm such an american...
18:45.50DarkNoisehaha
18:46.09Tech^salvageryou bring crap to us Petro
18:46.24PetroI'll rape and pillage australia
18:46.36Tech^salvagerlol
18:46.43Petroall their bases belong to american imperialism
18:46.50DarkNoisemeh u can do it in melbourne, im sure the local ethnic community will bash you with all theirr cousins
18:47.02Petroand Ill take their water cooling towers, those are so cool
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18:47.33PetroI'll be at a rich private "grammar school" as they call it
18:47.43DarkNoiseomg yulleh head over to st kilda to sell some eccies bro in my fully sick civic oh mah gawwwwd
18:48.01Tech^salvageruh huh
18:48.01DarkNoisegrammar school? we dont have no stinkin grammar school
18:48.10Tech^salvagerO_O
18:48.22Tech^salvagereccies?
18:48.35DarkNoiseslang for extasy
18:48.44Petrowtf are you talking about you f* n00b: everythinglinux.com.au
18:48.54Petrohttp://www.mgs.vic.edu.au/
18:49.02Petrosorry, copy paste failed on me once more
18:49.06Tech^salvagerbut I like windows
18:49.20Petrolol
18:49.35Petrothey have drugs in australia?
18:49.50DarkNoiseBWHAHAHA
18:50.15DarkNoisethat school is going to be more homo than freddy mercury doing a duet with elton john
18:50.31DarkNoiseok, well, we dont call them grammar schools
18:50.43Petroomg that's what I told our history teacher "what about all the chixx0rs?
18:51.00Petrohe said they're right by there
18:51.22DarkNoiseprimary school, years kindergarten, 1 -6, then high school 7 - 12, after that u can go to uni or tafe, tafe being like a public college
18:51.38Petrohum interesting
18:51.52Petroand y'all have permanent half-days right?
18:52.01DarkNoisenah only some schools
18:52.09DarkNoisenot many
18:52.11Petrowell this school at least does
18:52.21Tech^salvagerI hate school
18:52.26DarkNoisein years 11 and 12, u dont have as many classes so u can go home and stuff
18:52.32DarkNoiseyeah i hated school to
18:52.41PetroI'll be in 10 :(
18:52.52DarkNoisehaha
18:52.58DarkNoiseschool certificate year
18:53.21Petrofor some reason that doesn't sound to good, is that like the british GCSEs?
18:53.25Tech^salvager10th grade?
18:53.30DarkNoiseyear 10 is the final year of compulsory education, school ceritificate is the big exams at the end of the year
18:53.37DarkNoiseiunno
18:53.53Tech^salvagerall I know is droped out around 9th grade eduaction area
18:53.53DarkNoiseend of year 12, u get higher school certificate, which is bloody hard
18:54.08DarkNoisehaha i dropped out end of year 11, 2 years ago
18:54.24Tech^salvagerI'm 18
18:54.27DarkNoisesame
18:54.27Petroand did you get into higher education?
18:54.35DarkNoisei went to tafe
18:54.35Tech^salvagerwho me?
18:54.38Tech^salvageryeah
18:54.42Petroboth
18:54.46Tech^salvagerI want to a college after I got my GED
18:55.03DarkNoiseim going back to tafe next year to do diploma in nework security
18:55.19PetroOMG that sounds so interesting, I wish I lived over there
18:55.33Tech^salvagersounds like just school
18:55.37Tech^salvagerits just college man
18:55.46PetroI want to major in economics and do a bunch of interesting classes like that on the side
18:56.00Tech^salvagerI was trying for computer programming
18:56.04Petrogod the shit I have to through everyday...
18:56.14DarkNoisebasically, its a security course, but in order to teach you how to secure stuff, they teach you to break it, u have to sign papers that say u wont be bad n stuff
18:56.34Petro100% white hat baby!
18:56.39DarkNoisehaha yeah sure
18:56.51Petrowas that sarcastic?
18:57.02DarkNoisehell yes
18:57.42DarkNoisei nearly got expelled from high school twice, once in year 10 and once in year 11 for hacking
18:57.49Tech^salvagermeh
18:57.49Petrowell actually I know have wireless so I would have to rip out the PCI card, much harder to do
18:57.57Tech^salvageronce for me
18:58.00DarkNoisenot enought proof to put it on me tho
18:58.08DarkNoisemeh
18:58.21DarkNoisebefore i moved i frequently went wardriving
18:58.23Petrowhat version of windows did the boxen run?
18:58.41DarkNoisewhat box?
18:58.44Tech^salvagerwoah
18:58.47Tech^salvagerWTF?
18:58.52Petrothe one they caught you hacking
18:59.00Petropn
18:59.04Tech^salvagerget ready for this
18:59.19Tech^salvagerOther such beliefs involve the idea that masturbation can cause insanity or blindness.
18:59.23DarkNoiseoh, i only had windows and mac boxes at school
18:59.31DarkNoisewhat i got caught for was fuck all
18:59.38DarkNoisepacket sniffed password
19:00.33Tech^salvagerlol
19:00.33DarkNoiselogged in via web admin and created a student on the catholic education office system, with unlimited download quota and unlimited webspace
19:00.37Petroworst hacking I've ever done is putting in a floppy backwards (" But I've never used this deprecated technology before!")
19:00.39Tech^salvagerhaha
19:00.44DarkNoiseused a wireless laptop in a bag running vnc to download on kazaa 6 hours a day
19:00.52Tech^salvageromg
19:01.05PetroDarkNoise: nice
19:01.13DarkNoisethe website is still up that i threw up to throw them off the trail lol
19:01.22Petrowhere at?
19:01.31Tech^salvagerlearning biology on my own here
19:01.41Tech^salvagernever really finished the course
19:02.35Tech^salvagerwoah
19:02.37DarkNoisei updated it last year some time, just to piss them off cos they kept changing its password
19:02.54Tech^salvagerlol
19:03.11DarkNoisei didnt write all that in shitty leet speak either, just got a converter lol
19:03.19DarkNoisewrote a bunch of crap and uploaded it
19:03.30Tech^salvagerlol
19:05.53Petroso they actually thought the l33t crap was legit? ha ha, I only know one kid who types like that, and he place CS
19:06.02DarkNoisehahah
19:06.15Tech^salvagerwoah
19:06.18DarkNoiseyeah, i abuse anyone who thinks that talking like that is "133+"
19:07.15Tech^salvager0|<
19:07.35DarkNoise=\
19:07.53DarkNoise0|\/|9 uR |\|07 73h k3wlzzzzzz!
19:09.13DarkNoisereminds me of the kid who runs techsomething.net
19:09.29DarkNoiseowned his forum cos he wouldnt stop talking in leet speak on msn
19:10.30Petrolol
19:10.58DarkNoisemeh it was nothing special
19:11.08Tech^salvagerWTF?
19:11.39netbrainanyone have monitor mode on their airport?
19:11.49PetroI have a redundant firewall with now WAN->LAN port forwarding, should be pretty safe
19:11.56Petrono*
19:12.03DarkNoisemeh
19:12.10Petrobase station?
19:12.13DarkNoiserouter firewalls are no big deal
19:12.33netbrainDarkNoise: you have what i queried for?
19:12.51DarkNoisei dont own a airport
19:12.55netbrainok
19:12.58netbrainsry
19:13.05PetroI have an SMC one and the Airport base station one (plus the client side incase someone is wardriving and cracks the WPA)
19:13.07DarkNoiseheh tisk
19:13.11DarkNoise*tis k
19:14.10DarkNoiseyeah, if someone wanted to hit you, they could, but 99% of people wardriving couldnt be bothered/wouldnt know how, and would move on
19:15.06Tech^salvagerhmm
19:15.16DarkNoisethis kid i used to lan with totally self proclaimed hax0r of the year 2199 unstobable hax0r god person, kept going on about his wireless security
19:15.20PetroI was at a friends house not too long ago and he had WPA but he didn't know his own password (never used it, his dad had changed it and forgot what it was). I couldn't figure out how to crack it, aircrack et al didn't/couldn't work
19:15.35DarkNoisetook us about an hour to get root to his mandrake server
19:15.37Tech^salvagerso yhou hacked him Darknoise?
19:15.42Tech^salvagerlol
19:15.42Petrolol
19:15.58PetroYou remind me so much of maddox
19:16.01Tech^salvagerwell
19:16.08DarkNoisehaha sif compare me to maddox
19:16.17Tech^salvagerI'm probably lagging on security
19:16.23DarkNoisei think maddox would be offended
19:16.31DarkNoisehehe when it comes to my own stuff im lazy
19:16.36DarkNoisetheres nothing i havea hacker would want
19:17.05PetroI think someone would want my enormous pr0n collection
19:17.15DarkNoiselol
19:17.25DarkNoisenoooooooo
19:17.34DarkNoisedebian install finished
19:17.38DarkNoisesame problem :(
19:17.53PetroI'm paranoid about security because my tech teacher in 6th grade informed that "anyone with root access can and will make your hard drive spin backwards and explode."
19:18.25Tech^salvagerhuh Dark?
19:18.39Tech^salvageryou got to be kidding me Petro
19:18.43DarkNoiseHAHA
19:18.51DarkNoiseYEHOK
19:18.54DarkNoiselol
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19:19.56Petrohe was like "do you know something called assembly, neither do I, but it allows you to be a disk DJ with your hd"
19:20.50Tech^salvagerWTF?
19:21.02Tech^salvagerdisk DK with HDD
19:21.13Tech^salvagerwell I guess it could be possible low level
19:21.21Tech^salvagerto make your HDD go backwards
19:21.36limescratch
19:22.35DarkNoisethats a rofl
19:22.55PetroI talked to my dad about it and he told me: "stick to ppc, no one knows ppc assembly" I was like, sweet! and ever since then I have never touched x86 until a couple weeks a go, bought myself P4
19:22.57DarkNoisecan and will is what makes it so funny
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19:24.11limei have a question.. i think it's about my locale or keymaps.. but i don't know.  i get kernel prints such as "keyboard: unknown scancode e0 4c" when i use my function keys.  on an old first edition ibook.  anybody?
19:26.17DarkNoisenfi
19:26.24Petrolime: my math teacher has one, DarkNoise could root it, I do a remote installation of Debian, and I'll be in touch with you real soon (or my lawyer)
19:26.45DarkNoiseo_O
19:27.04limeuse your calculus to solve it!
19:27.45Petrouhm I am the suXx0rs in math, and I'm doing vectors right now
19:27.50DarkNoiseBOOT THE KERNAL FKER!
19:27.54Tech^salvageranything a matter DarkNoise?
19:28.05DarkNoise-A +E
19:28.20DarkNoiseyeah, i still cant boot
19:28.21Petroequals vector AE
19:28.32DarkNoiseits all like boot:
19:28.32Petrowhat kind of machine?
19:28.34DarkNoiseand im like
19:28.41DarkNoise/boot/vmlinux
19:28.45Tech^salvagerok
19:28.47DarkNoiseand its like WRONG!
19:28.51Tech^salvagerROFL
19:29.04DarkNoise"image not found, try again"
19:29.12Tech^salvagersending it to the right partition right?
19:29.18DarkNoisehdc2 yeah
19:29.20DarkNoisei mean
19:29.22DarkNoisehda2 yeah
19:29.45Tech^salvagerhmmm
19:29.53Tech^salvagermaybe its not there
19:29.55Tech^salvagerfor reals
19:30.07Tech^salvagerPetro x86 rules
19:30.10Petrowhat does [tab] do?
19:30.30Tech^salvagerwhere?
19:30.30PetroI do have a weak spot for grub, yaboot is simpler to modify though
19:30.40Petroat the boot: prompt
19:30.50Tech^salvagerI dunno
19:30.53DarkNoiseif it wasnt there, then every other person using the same iso for debianppc would have the same problem
19:30.57netbraindoes grub look better?
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19:31.06DarkNoiseomg
19:31.08DarkNoisewoot
19:31.10Tech^salvagerDarkNoise for some reason my wans't there
19:31.14DarkNoiseit was lables Linux
19:31.23DarkNoiseall this time
19:31.26DarkNoisethe wait is over
19:31.28Tech^salvagerso
19:31.28DarkNoiseits booting
19:31.29PetroHAHA
19:31.30Tech^salvagerwhat?
19:31.39Tech^salvagerboot linux ?
19:31.50DarkNoisebasically, yes
19:31.56Tech^salvagerI hate my mac
19:31.56DarkNoisefar out
19:31.58Tech^salvagerclone
19:32.01DarkNoisethat took forever
19:32.03Petronetbrain: different architecture, has a shell like bash
19:32.35Tech^salvagerwhat does?
19:32.43PetroTech: I have a mac clone too, a power computing POS that won't boot debian, it's so f* frustrating
19:32.51Petrogrub
19:32.54DarkNoise"the hardware clock sats that the time is now Fri Marc 9 22:45:01 1973
19:32.55Tech^salvageroh ok
19:33.00Tech^salvagerPetro
19:33.00DarkNoiselol
19:33.03DarkNoisegg
19:33.04Tech^salvagerUmax c600
19:33.10Tech^salvagerlol
19:33.11Petrowho made those?
19:33.16Tech^salvagerUmax
19:33.24Petroapt-get install ntpdate is your friend
19:33.37Petrohumm, didn't motorola make some clones too?
19:33.37netbrainwhats so good/special about grub then?
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19:33.44Tech^salvagernothing
19:33.49Tech^salvagerhe was just comparing it
19:33.53Petroit's just better than inputting complicated OF paths
19:34.10Tech^salvagerwell
19:34.18Tech^salvagerOF would be cool on x86
19:34.36netbraini thought grub was a boot loader?
19:34.42Petrooh absolutely, I said nothing of the contrary, but grub would be pretty darn cool on ppc
19:34.46Petroit is
19:34.48netbrainof isnt that like a bios or something?
19:34.49limeit's a grand unified boot loader :)
19:35.54Petrobios is lower-level
19:36.02DarkNoiseok pants o clock sun is coming up
19:36.12Tech^salvagerbasic input output system
19:37.15Tech^salvageryou know
19:37.35Tech^salvagerDarkNoise's victory over OF and guik makes me want to try install debian again
19:37.45DarkNoiselol
19:37.56DarkNoisei only installed it so i can try get gentoo to work lol
19:38.22DarkNoiselol
19:38.57Petrolocaly building everything sounds as bad as communism to me
19:39.03limei do like gentoo,but, i had to go with the debian on his 300mhz 32mb ibook after 60 hours of building stage 1
19:39.59DarkNoisehaha
19:40.01Petromy dad laughed at me: "the powerpc code is already optimized you goof ball! this isn't x86!"
19:40.26DarkNoisehaha you and your communist father :P
19:41.20Petroumm I don't think my dad would work at a big multinational that "exploits" asian workers if he were a communist
19:41.45Tech^salvagerPetro your dad is weird
19:42.04Tech^salvagerhmm
19:42.16Petromy dad is the best thing that has ever happened to me since my mom
19:42.16Tech^salvagerI won't move to PPC all the way anytime soon
19:42.42Tech^salvagernot when doom 3 sucks balls on it
19:42.46Tech^salvagercompared to x86
19:42.58Petroomg! call the gaming police, have this man shot please
19:43.47Petrolook here pal, if you want to play video games you're going to need videogaming equipment like a PS2, not heating equipment like x86
19:43.54Petrolol
19:44.00Tech^salvagerno way
19:44.06Tech^salvagerno way
19:44.12Tech^salvagerI can't play RTS on the TV
19:44.23Tech^salvagerand FPS suck on the PS2
19:44.23limeyeah, or a goban.  hey.. anybdoy know where this key map thing i'm looking for might load up before i gotsta jet?
19:44.42DarkNoiseok
19:44.45Tech^salvagerthats why I have a xbox
19:44.47Tech^salvagerfor
19:44.49Tech^salvagerDDR
19:44.50Tech^salvagerracing
19:44.53DarkNoisewhat is more important?
19:44.53Petrolime: normally deb-installer auto detects, if not you are going to manually do it
19:44.54Tech^salvagerand some FPS
19:44.58Petrolol DDR
19:45.01DarkNoiserent or food?
19:45.04Tech^salvagerDDR owns
19:45.12DarkNoiseddr is good, i agree
19:45.20Tech^salvagerMAx 300 heavy
19:45.22DarkNoiseim crap at it tho
19:45.24PetroI was watching my gf play DDR the other day, it was so funny
19:45.29DarkNoiseyeah my housemate is nuts at it
19:45.40limepetro: i think i inadvertently changed it trying to change my language variables.  it worked ok after the main system install.  but i screwed it upyesterday. not exactly sure how, sadly.
19:46.08DarkNoise...
19:46.10lime(do you know where it is stored that i might manually do it..?)
19:46.12Petrowell unless you're a super hacker you're up for a fresh install I guess
19:46.20Tech^salvagerlol
19:46.25DarkNoise"debian wants to install this stuff do you want to continue y/n?"
19:46.25Tech^salvageroh crap
19:46.26DarkNoisen
19:46.29Petromaybe dpkg-reconfigure debian-base or something
19:46.34PetroNNNNN
19:46.35PetroNI
19:46.37DarkNoise"ok ill downlaod it anyway even tho u said no"
19:46.45Petrolol
19:46.58Tech^salvagerI need to get lappy on drain cord for battery
19:46.58PetroAPRIL FOOLS DAY!<>
19:46.58DarkNoiseI DONT WANT XWINDOW SYSTEM!
19:47.15PetroDarkNoise: pwned
19:47.21DarkNoisei rkn
19:47.31limei think it might have been the localeconf debconf thing that did it.
19:47.34Petroctrl-c is my best friend
19:47.58DarkNoiseits the 3nd of april today... your living in the past, man
19:48.03DarkNoise*2nd
19:48.09limethe problem didn't manifest until after a reboot though, and it was a long session during which i did many things.  ah well.. yes, i'm a super hacker (not) i'll figure it out.
19:48.11Tech^salvagernot here
19:48.27DarkNoisesee, your living in the past!
19:48.58Tech^salvagernope
19:49.01Tech^salvagerpresent
19:49.25limehmm, that sounds like a good april fools joke.. set up an ntpd saying it's april 3rd!  lol.  er.. bye
19:50.04DarkNoisenmap -sS -vv -O 203.220.55.34
19:50.07DarkNoiseerr
19:50.16DarkNoiseirc != putty
19:50.24DarkNoisewrong window
19:50.29limewhois 203.220.55.34
19:50.32limewhoops
19:50.39limehaha jeez ok see ya
19:50.57DarkNoise=\
19:51.12Petropete@Compy686:~$ date
19:51.12PetroFri Apr  1 21:51:06 CEST 2005
19:51.13DarkNoisewtf drugs was he on?
19:51.30DarkNoise=\
19:51.35DarkNoisemy freebsd box froze...
19:51.40DarkNoisefor the first time ever
19:51.59PetroI have no clue what freebsd is but slashdot people keep saying it's dead
19:52.04Petrolol
19:52.13DarkNoiseints a BSD distro :P
19:52.14Tech^salvagernah
19:52.17Tech^salvagerits not dead
19:52.17DarkNoise*its
19:52.21DarkNoisesif its dead
19:52.30Petrook that helped, now I know it's like Darwin
19:52.39Tech^salvagerekkoBSD I believe is dead
19:52.53Tech^salvagerI believe
19:52.53Petroalong with Solaris 10 MOUHAHA
19:53.11DarkNoisespeaking of sun microsystems
19:53.15Tech^salvagerhmm
19:53.17DarkNoisejava wants me to update
19:53.19DarkNoisebut im lazy
19:53.27Tech^salvagerlol
19:53.29DarkNoiseit better not want a reboot
19:53.35DarkNoiseUptime: 1 days 3 hours 41 minutes 52 seconds
19:53.38DarkNoisesee!
19:53.45DarkNoisethats horrible, thanx symantec
19:53.59DarkNoise"just update it will be ok"
19:54.04Petroroot@Compy686:/home/pete # uptime
19:54.04Petro<PROTECTED>
19:54.06DarkNoise*reboots 50 abillion times*
19:54.20PetroI reboot every morning
19:54.24DarkNoise=\
19:54.40DarkNoisei reboot when my system crashes or something forces it to
19:54.41Petrobecause this fucker is so loud I can't keep it on without it sounding like the server room at HP
19:54.53Tech^salvagermeh
19:54.56Petroare you in the same room with it?
19:55.01Tech^salvageryou should hear mt SCSI HDD
19:55.02Tech^salvagers
19:55.05Tech^salvagermy
19:55.08DarkNoiselol i slept in the custom server room at the old commbank building in sydney
19:55.15PetroLOL
19:55.22Tech^salvagerI can't sleep without my ocmpuer on
19:55.24Petrohow the f* did you manage that?
19:55.25Tech^salvagerI get scared
19:55.37DarkNoisei jsut fell asleep waiting dfor this kent to deleive isdn board
19:55.48DarkNoiseit was high security, no one else was gonna come in
19:55.59PetroI saw this show about electromagnetic waves that make you think funny so I turn off all electronics in my room when I go to bed
19:56.13Petrolol
19:56.15Tech^salvagerwimp
19:56.15DarkNoisehaah i have 3 puters running next to my bed 24/7
19:56.31Tech^salvagermy bed = the floor
19:56.35DarkNoisewhen gf comes over she makes me turn the other 2 off tho
19:56.45Tech^salvagerno way
19:56.52DarkNoisehah hell no, noisy as anything
19:56.53Tech^salvagerfan noise = good
19:56.54Petrois that even possible with a P4?
19:56.56Tech^salvageryes
19:57.02DarkNoiseits possible
19:57.03Tech^salvageryep
19:57.08Tech^salvagervery much
19:57.10DarkNoisemy pc reaches 70'C anyway
19:57.14DarkNoisecos of the heat here
19:57.14Tech^salvagerhuh
19:57.17PetroI saw this fanless power supply, found it a bit heavy
19:57.19Tech^salvagerwhat core?
19:57.42DarkNoisep4 2., 333fsb model, cant remember which one
19:57.42Petrono clue, prescott I believe
19:57.43Tech^salvagerthats abit much
19:57.46DarkNoise*2.4
19:57.54Tech^salvagereven for a prescott
19:58.00DarkNoiseits only got stock cooler
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19:58.05DarkNoiseand it gets hot here
19:58.07Tech^salvagerthey run around 68c loaded
19:58.12Petromodel name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
19:58.25DarkNoiseCPU: Intel Pentium 4, 2.43 GHz, 512 KB (2% Load)
19:58.26Petrook well g2g
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19:58.33Tech^salvagerhaha
19:58.36Tech^salvagerAMD 1ghz
19:58.39Tech^salvagermuwhahaha
19:58.42DarkNoiselol
19:58.56Tech^salvagerwill update to AMD 64 later
19:59.12DarkNoisemeh unless i win lottery i got no money to spend on puter
19:59.13Tech^salvagerthat or opteron
19:59.58DarkNoisei applied for a contract doing php/mysql web development today
20:00.13DarkNoiseif i get that, then maybe ill get another hdd
20:00.20Tech^salvagercool
20:00.23DarkNoiseHD: [C:] 3.42/19.07 GB [D:] 0.47/111.79 GB [E:] 1.96/111.79 GB [H:] 6.59/74.53 GB
20:00.28DarkNoiseTotal Free: 12.45 GB/317.18 GB
20:00.33Tech^salvagerWTH
20:00.50Tech^salvagerI only have a 30Gb hdd max
20:00.54DarkNoisell
20:00.56DarkNoiselol
20:01.01DarkNoisepoor soul
20:01.29DarkNoiseour house breaks a TB, but thast poor, some of the guys i used to LAN with had over a TB in their main box
20:01.58*** join/#debianppc Petro (~chatzilla@AGrenoble-152-1-29-166.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr)
20:02.04DarkNoiselol welcome back
20:02.07Petrodid I miss anything?
20:02.18DarkNoisenot really
20:02.22PetroSwitched to my whisper quiet iBook
20:02.33DarkNoiselol
20:03.10PetroThe fans on my 686 were driving me nuts, as they usually do when I don't have any music masking them
20:03.11DarkNoise6am
20:03.24Tech^salvageryour a freak
20:03.37DarkNoiselol
20:03.50DarkNoiseits almost time for coffee and toast
20:03.59PetroI'm going to try to buy some that are quieter
20:04.08Tech^salvagerhere Petro
20:04.12Tech^salvagerlet me find you some
20:04.24Tech^salvagerhmm
20:04.29Tech^salvagerhwo about fanless?
20:04.37PetroDepends on the price...
20:04.41DarkNoiseor a big noisy water cooling kit
20:04.47Tech^salvager50?
20:04.54PetroI thought those were silent?
20:04.58netbrainhow about thermaltake big water cooler?
20:05.03netbraini got that.
20:05.07netbrainreal quiet
20:05.16netbrain19 db all in all
20:05.19Tech^salvagerwater cooling can be silent
20:05.22PetroOr I could directly hook it up to the home AC *evil grin*
20:05.32DarkNoisenot if u use a deisel punp
20:05.41DarkNoise*pump
20:05.43Petro19 db is russian to me, how silent is that?
20:05.54DarkNoisenineteen decibles?
20:05.57Tech^salvagerhttp://www.frozencpu.com/cpu-tta-22.html
20:06.02netbrainyeah
20:06.18Tech^salvagerhttp://www.frozencpu.com/cpu-tta-25.html
20:06.27netbrain50db is normal talking volume
20:06.56DarkNoise185db is the loundness of my mates award winning car stereo
20:06.56netbrainand from 1 to 2db the sound volume intensifies 10 times..
20:07.01netbrainso 19db is quite low
20:08.11DarkNoisenow stop, breakfast time
20:08.25DarkNoiseplaying: "MC Hammer - U Can't Touch This" .:128kbps|Stereo|4:17:.
20:08.30Tech^salvagerlol
20:08.34Tech^salvagerPetro
20:08.52Tech^salvageryou know you wanta -> http://www.frozencpu.com/cpu-tta-24.html
20:09.28Petroum no thanks lol
20:09.55Tech^salvagerI want the fanless 103
20:11.16netbrainbuy the thermaltake fanless psu, then the thermaltake bigwater cooler. and buy a vga clip and cpu block for watercooler..
20:11.46netbrainwhat you will be left with is one 120mm fan with fan control which means max 19db
20:12.03Tech^salvagerthats abit pricey there
20:12.15PetroI'll go to the local comp store and see how much the guy wants to rip me off for
20:12.15netbraini got it right here.. i could take a pictrue for you guys
20:12.18Tech^salvagerfudge it everyone likes over kill
20:12.31netbrainpicture even
20:12.46PetroWE WANT PICS WE WANT PICS
20:14.05netbrainmy current cpu temp is: 28 and mb temp is: 34
20:14.37PetroIs it possible to cool a P4 2.8GH with a puny heat sink?!
20:14.39netbrainso no doubt.. the cooling system works
20:14.53Tech^salvagerhuh?
20:14.54netbrainwithout a fan?
20:14.57Tech^salvagerpuny?
20:15.14Tech^salvagerwith the ones I showed you it is
20:16.15PetroTHOSE THINGS WILL NEVER FIT IN MY ATX CASE!!!
20:16.36Petrohow is that remotely possible?
20:16.40Tech^salvagerI bet the 103 will
20:16.46Tech^salvagerwhat type of case?
20:16.54Tech^salvagermATX?
20:16.58Petroyeah
20:17.20Tech^salvager103
20:17.25Tech^salvageror
20:17.35Tech^salvagerget a better HS with heatpipes
20:17.41Tech^salvagerand a variable fan
20:17.55Petroor I get the welder out
20:18.02Tech^salvagerwhy?
20:18.35Petrocut holes in my case so that those heatsinks will fit through
20:19.16Petrowhat company makes the best fanless power supplies?
20:19.43Tech^salvagerno idea
20:19.55Tech^salvagersell the P4
20:19.57Tech^salvagerget a AMD
20:20.15Tech^salvagerok sell the computer get a AMD setup
20:21.14Petrolol
20:21.24Tech^salvagernot kidding
20:21.49PetroI've passed the point of no return, It'll be for the next box
20:22.39Tech^salvagerk
20:23.06PetroBut I do want to get that phat exhaust for my processor
20:23.20Tech^salvagerlol
20:23.47Tech^salvagermy AMD runs at 44C
20:23.50PetroI'll even add a fake motor sound to make it that much cooler
20:23.58Petro(no pun intended)
20:24.12Tech^salvagerlol
20:25.06DarkNoiseback
20:25.22DarkNoisePetro, do u know waht vegemite is?
20:25.36PetroNope, we didn't have sex-ed
20:25.56DarkNoisewhen u come to my country, you eat vegemite on toast for breakfast
20:26.05DarkNoisevegemite and cheest on toast
20:26.19Petrowell, is it good?
20:26.33DarkNoisevegemite is the like, the spread of sutralia
20:26.36DarkNoise*australia
20:26.38DarkNoisei lvoe it
20:26.56PetroI'll google around
20:27.05Petrosounds vegetable-like
20:27.20DarkNoiseif u want to be like me, dip your toast with vegemite and cheese in your black coffee, tripple espresso
20:27.27DarkNoisenah its like, iunno
20:27.50DarkNoisea thick brown almost black stuff
20:27.58Petrolol http://www.vegemite.com.au/index.cfm?fuseaction=FactsFiction.welcome
20:28.00DarkNoiseu spread it on toast and stuff
20:28.16DarkNoiseyeah
20:28.26Tech^salvagerhmm
20:28.32DarkNoisekids who eat vegemite are "happy little vegemites bright as bright can be"
20:28.41PetroLOL
20:28.54DarkNoisefor abuot 5 years, every day in primary school my mum packed me a vegemite sammich
20:29.53DarkNoiseargh coffee is too hot, need some milk in it, but when i got milk out of fridge it was 2 weeks out of date =\
20:30.07DarkNoiseso i put it back in fridge
20:30.17jaskaeventually it'll leave the fridge on its own.
20:30.27DarkNoiseyeah, prolly soon
20:30.30Petroeww, I usually throw it onto the lawn
20:30.35DarkNoiselol
20:30.49Petrolet my bro mow the lawn
20:31.01*** join/#debianppc deadsmith (~matt@pixpat.austin.ibm.com)
20:31.04DarkNoiseone of my housemates gf's is living with us atm, and she decided that we scarpe our leftovers into a bucket under the sink
20:31.12DarkNoiseworst, idea, ever.
20:31.26DarkNoiseshe decide that when she came to visit 2 months ago
20:31.31DarkNoiseand we didnt use it since then
20:31.38PetroDeadsmith: welcome to our community, IBMer and resident of my hometown, Austin
20:31.41DarkNoiseopened it up and had mould and fur and shti growing on it
20:31.52deadsmithPetro, good eye.
20:32.06Petrobye bye
20:32.22Petrooh eye! I read Bye
20:32.31DarkNoiselol
20:32.35PetroI thought I scared you or something
20:32.39DarkNoisegreat eye infact lol
20:32.49PetroOH THE IRONY ARGH
20:32.55DarkNoiselol
20:34.02DarkNoiseoh great
20:34.11DarkNoisedebian is installing itself gnome
20:34.18DarkNoiseKDE 4 LYF
20:34.25DarkNoiseall this shit i selected to NOT install
20:34.33PetroKDE4 isn't even out yet you idiot
20:34.41DarkNoiseno
20:34.46DarkNoisekde for life
20:34.46Petrook never mind, take that back, got it
20:34.50DarkNoisehaha
20:35.09deadsmithanyone working on realplayer ppc port to glibc 2.3?
20:35.10Petroonly my gf would say something with 4 meaning for
20:35.24DarkNoiselol
20:35.34Petroisn't realplayer proprietary?
20:35.36Bor_Eddeadsmith, just get helixplayer ... it works pretty well
20:36.01Bor_Edit has even realplayer builds
20:36.04Petroah Bor_Ed ! Been a long time
20:36.18deadsmithoh, really?  For ppc?  that's awesome.
20:36.27deadsmithI was just looking into helping with the realplayer port...
20:36.36deadsmithI'll have to find some other pitty project :o)
20:36.37Bor_EdI'll try to get the buggr addy up from bookmarks... connection is more or even worse sucky currently
20:37.06Bor_Edhttps://helixcommunity.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=154
20:37.50Petrodoes helix have altivec support?
20:38.01Bor_Edno idea really
20:38.13Petrodeadsmith: we found something for you to do!
20:38.19Bor_Edread from the page... they prolly have some info there
20:38.26deadsmithohhh, boy...
20:38.42deadsmithas qualified as I may or may not be to VMX-ify helix player...
20:38.49deadsmithI don't know if the maintainers would like it very much.
20:39.15Petrowtf is VMX? Is it like BSD? Dead? (tongue in cheek)
20:39.17Bor_Edhehe
20:39.39deadsmithvmx = altivec
20:39.43deadsmithermm...
20:39.47deadsmithvmx == altivec
20:39.51Petrooh I'm thinking VAX
20:40.10deadsmithvmx == ibm_marketing(AltiVec)
20:40.12deadsmiththere we are.
20:40.14Petrook
20:40.21PetroNow we're on the same page
20:40.38PetroIs AltiVec the standard word or the Freescale word?
20:40.56Bor_Edit's apple word
20:41.02Bor_Edafaik
20:41.11deadsmithAltiVec is a freescale TM, Velocity Engine is Apple, VMX (original AIM codename) is still IBMs
20:41.20Petrook
20:41.20Bor_Edahh
20:41.41Petroand Velocity Engine gains the marketing dept seal of approval!
20:42.19Petrotada! suddenly it's twice as fast as the unintelligeble AltiVec and three times faster than the acronym VMX
20:42.20deadsmithLeave it to Apple.
20:42.36deadsmithActually, with what Apple's done to GCC, it may be 3 times faster :o)
20:42.43Petrolol
20:43.10PetroAnd who said Apple wasn't giving back to the free software community?
20:44.42deadsmithTheir GCC is much better at altivec stuff than community gcc...
20:44.57Petroto they not have the same code base?
20:44.58deadsmithanyway, I might be interested in the helix player thing...
20:45.16deadsmithit's modified...  different tree for darwin.
20:45.41deadsmithany ideas what people want optimized?
20:46.06deadsmithWell, I won't be porting things to OSX, but I know people who do.
20:46.16Petropr0n movies (sorry I'm 15 and quite immature)
20:46.45DarkNoisehaha
20:46.51DarkNoisehttp://www.estorm.com.au/
20:46.55deadsmithI'm guessing helix player is c/c++ and gtk, right?
20:46.58Bor_Edplayer should run optimized pr0n clips
20:47.08DarkNoiselol highlight the bottom left blank area of the screen
20:47.14Bor_Eddeadsmith, from the looks of the app, yer right
20:47.15deadsmithBor_Ed, there's a number of jokes to make...
20:47.15deadsmithbut...
20:47.29deadsmithI'd be better at the C part...
20:47.38deadsmithbut it would be an interesting exercise...
20:48.06Bor_EdI just grab 'nightly built' when I upgrade the player... haven't really checked the tree of it
20:48.13PetroDarkNoise: ROFL
20:48.20DarkNoisehehe
20:48.23Bor_Edactually I think I have realplayer from them installed now
20:48.57Bor_EdHelix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible
20:48.57Bor_Ed<PROTECTED>
20:48.57Bor_Ed<PROTECTED>
20:49.07Bor_Ednope, looks like helix
20:49.24PetroDarkNoise: did you make their site or uhum?
20:49.40DarkNoiseno i didnt make the site :)
20:50.04PetroDarkNoise: even better
20:50.59PetroDarkNoise: how hard would it be to do a big site like yahoo?
20:51.07DarkNoisepretty hard
20:51.47PetroDo they have good prevention or will they hunt you down and kill your family members?
20:52.30DarkNoiseall of the aboce
20:52.32DarkNoise*above
20:52.42Petrolol
20:52.47DarkNoisei previously had a bnc running on estorm.com.au
20:52.50Petroonly a script kiddy would try
20:52.52DarkNoisebut they killed it
20:52.57Petrobnc?
20:53.04DarkNoiseirc proxy
20:53.18Bor_Edbouncer daemon, leet mirc helper
20:53.26DarkNoisehehe basically yes
20:53.57Petronice
20:54.07DarkNoiseive had 3 different bnc's in the last 2 weeks
20:54.11DarkNoisethey keep getting killed
20:54.27DarkNoisei had one running on some guy's box the1.no-ip.com
20:54.35DarkNoiseand he kept killing the process
20:54.45DarkNoisehe offers free linux shells
20:54.54DarkNoisebut, u cant connect to the box externally,
20:54.59DarkNoisebut u can tunnel thru ssh
20:55.09Bor_Edfree linux shells and free backround processes are couple of different things
20:55.20DarkNoisenah u were allowed bg processes
20:55.45Bor_Edwell bncs should be dropped from irc servers imo, they're way too big security risks
20:55.47DarkNoisehe just saiys if u take up cpu usage/bandwidth/diskspace/anything he doesnt like, he will remove it
20:56.05DarkNoiselol
20:56.34Bor_Edif ya want to idle on channel, keep the friggin connection and client up then, no biggie
20:56.53DarkNoisei keep connection, client and bnc up
20:57.15DarkNoisemost bnc's i get are g-lined from enterthegame in a few hours
20:57.19*** join/#debianppc dj-death_ (~dtc@djdeath.dyndns.org)
20:57.23Bor_EdI have more connection drops that I want but it's going to change at week 21
20:57.47Petrowhy's that?
20:58.04DarkNoisei usually only get dropped when someone trips over router or network cables on the stairs/hallway
20:58.36PetroLOL
20:58.57PetroI can hear my tech teacher "QUIT STEPPING ON THE ETHERNET CABLES DAMN IT."
21:00.10PetroThey all went to the middle of the room so it was like obligatory that we step on them, and they were taped so it must have not done much really
21:01.15PetroBefore I had my wireless card (took me ages to make it work) I had an ethernet cable going from one side of the house to the other
21:01.56gobblesdont you know coaxial cable costs money
21:02.40Petroethernet =? coaxial?
21:03.06DarkNoisethe day we got our dsl connected here, we all dissaperead to our rooms, and about an hour later, it dropped, and we all ran to the router to see what happened
21:03.11gobblescoulda been tolken ring
21:04.53*** join/#debianppc Petro (~chatzilla@AGrenoble-152-1-29-166.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr)
21:04.59Petrof* chatzilla
21:05.42DarkNoiseget xchat or something, or even better irsii/bitchx :P
21:06.09PetroDarkNoise: Yeah well I'm on Mac OS X and I'm feelin really lazy right now
21:06.25DarkNoiselol
21:06.42DarkNoisehahha
21:06.52Petroafter a long week of crap school...
21:07.08DarkNoiseeverytime powerbook is untaring somehting, its telling me that the date it was created is in the future lol
21:07.13DarkNoisecos its clock is set to 1973
21:07.27DarkNoisehaha school blows
21:07.40Petrothey'll do that when you reset the PMU I believe
21:07.40DarkNoiseim wearing my year 12 jearsy now tho :P
21:07.53DarkNoisemeh no biggy, doesnt bother me
21:07.59PetroHAHA you have uniforms!
21:08.20DarkNoiseyeah, but jearsy is what u get in year 12, final year, u get ur name/ inck o nthe back etc
21:08.30DarkNoisehaha anglican schools are the worst man
21:08.32Petrospiffy
21:08.33DarkNoisethey are so uptight
21:08.46DarkNoiseon the back of mine i got c:\mysurname
21:09.00DarkNoisecos no one would get /home/DarkNoise
21:09.12DarkNoiseand if i got DarkNoise i would of been expelled for sure
21:09.25Petroduring the interview: Teacher: Do you mind being around very religious people? Me: Have I told you about Jesus' message yet? Teacher: Ok, gotcha.
21:09.42DarkNoisehaha i went to catholic school
21:09.55DarkNoisei got straight E's in religion 4 semesters in a row
21:10.05DarkNoiseand teacher told me i had to "pull up my socks"
21:10.07DarkNoiseand im like
21:10.10PetroI'm actually atheist but I really wanted to go.
21:10.12DarkNoisewhy? im not going to be a preist
21:10.18PetroLOL ROFL
21:10.18DarkNoiseand he went nuts
21:10.23DarkNoiseit was a fkn ROFL
21:10.30deadsmithE for ecclesiastic, DarkNoise
21:10.30deadsmith?
21:10.33PetroEXCELLENT
21:10.35Petrolol
21:11.06DarkNoiseyeah, we used to sleep up the back of class and plan our next hacks and shit
21:11.10DarkNoiseme and my best mate
21:11.22DarkNoiseone time, we had bibles out
21:11.26Petroall of my friends here are like, wtf is linux?
21:11.29DarkNoiseand a fly landed on window
21:11.38DarkNoiseand my best mate picks up bible and says
21:11.42DarkNoise"god bless you"
21:11.45DarkNoiseand crushed the fly
21:11.51DarkNoisecrunchiest noise ever
21:11.51PetroYES! ha ha
21:11.56DarkNoiseand all baby maggots came out
21:12.00Petroomg
21:12.01DarkNoiseand crawled all over widnow
21:12.08DarkNoiseand were like eeeeewwwwwww
21:12.15DarkNoiseand then it dried there in the sun
21:12.21DarkNoiseand didnt get cleaned for 2 weeks
21:12.35DarkNoiseso we wrote on window in whiteboard marker "fly" with arrow pointing to it
21:12.37Petrothat's hilarious
21:12.39DarkNoiseill never forget that day
21:12.43DarkNoisebiggest rofl
21:13.51DarkNoisesecond best day was in legal studiest when i made some girl in my class go apeshit at me, and she stormed out of class and i got suspended, but u kinda had to be there for it
21:14.09Petrowhat did you say?
21:14.14DarkNoisejust being dumb
21:14.20DarkNoisethen she went off at me and got moved up the front
21:14.29DarkNoiseand im like hey, *lixx gluestick*
21:14.34DarkNoiseand she just went nuts
21:14.39PetroLOL
21:14.42DarkNoiseYOUR SO FUCKING STUPID etc etc
21:14.50Petrosexual harassment is what we call it
21:14.51DarkNoiseand im up the back pissing myself laughing
21:15.03DarkNoisehaha nar wasnt sexual harrasment just childish
21:15.28DarkNoisehad this dumb blonde in our class too, one of the stupidest people i know
21:15.39DarkNoiseand she was asking dumb questions one day
21:15.41DarkNoiseand im like
21:15.57DarkNoise"OMG dont ask me, im jsut a girl" in malibu stacy voice
21:16.08DarkNoiseand everyone cracked up and i got sent out :(
21:16.18Petrosimilar thing happened to me in band rehearsal, this nasty slut was licking her flute in some odd ways and looking at me, band teacher asked  her to put away the flute and go talk to the councilor
21:16.28DarkNoisehaha
21:16.45Petrothat's sexism in action right there
21:16.51DarkNoiselol
21:16.53Petrowell at least we get even on the job market
21:17.04*** join/#debianppc p8m (~p8m@adsl-68-89-146-101.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net)
21:17.05DarkNoisehah
21:17.08p8mhey
21:17.31Petrohey
21:17.33DarkNoisethe dumbest guy in my highschool IT class is now making 800+ AU$ a week, he only finished year 12 last year
21:17.59DarkNoisewhile im here unemployed =p
21:18.08Petrowhats the exchange rate with US$?
21:18.31DarkNoisei got 94% in IT at the end of year 11, and i cant manage to find a IT job in a capital city
21:18.34DarkNoiseno idea
21:18.40DarkNoisehigh 70's i think
21:18.46Petroholy shit
21:18.51Petrowhich way though
21:18.52Petrolol
21:19.05DarkNoiselol US$1 = 0.70 somethign AU
21:19.55Petroah ok, I thought it was 70US = 1 AU
21:20.08DarkNoiselol no way
21:20.18DarkNoiseour dollar as way down 6 months ago
21:20.21PetroWhat kind of tech jobs are there in Australia?
21:20.32DarkNoisethere was a point when it was close to $0.50 US
21:20.41DarkNoisesame as everywhere i guess
21:21.43PetroHow fast is the backbone over there, it is kind of far from the US
21:22.04DarkNoisei did work experience for MCI, former worlcom in sydney, in network operations center, linked directly to texas somewhere
21:22.08DarkNoiseno idea exact speed
21:22.27Petrohouston or dallas probably
21:22.31DarkNoiseyeh
21:22.44DarkNoiseiunno where it was was crazy links to all over the world
21:22.47Petrodo they go over mexico or california-arizona-new mexico
21:22.51Petrolol
21:23.10DarkNoiseso hard to get in there tho
21:23.16DarkNoise2 months to get security clearance
21:23.44DarkNoisecant talk about the security to get into the building tho
21:23.47DarkNoisebut its nuts
21:23.49Petrowell yeah, it's like government and defense stuff in their too I guess (not to mention the economy)
21:23.52DarkNoisefingerprint scans etc
21:24.05PetroI want to get one for my comp, just for style points
21:24.08DarkNoisemainly banks and stuff but yeah
21:24.09DarkNoisenah
21:24.13DarkNoisefingerprint is bs
21:24.24DarkNoiseone of the guys who works their can use all his fingers lol
21:24.29DarkNoisethey all work
21:25.13Petrowell I just want a green light to go off and everyone to go "ooh that's really neato and secure, you're so cool peter!"
21:25.19DarkNoisehahaha
21:25.34DarkNoisewas walking thru server floor
21:25.40DarkNoisepast mainframes and shit
21:25.53DarkNoiseand most of them have big red power switches
21:26.01DarkNoiseand one of the guys is like
21:26.10DarkNoise"you know what that button is called?"
21:26.15netbrainhm.. my linux kernel is getting kernel panic.. cant mount root. im guessing i need an initrd?
21:26.20DarkNoiseim liek "yeahi its power button"
21:26.23Petronetbrain: yes
21:26.26Petrolol
21:26.30netbrainhow do i make that?
21:26.35Petromkinitrd
21:26.43DarkNoisehes like "nah its career reset switch, flick it and go back to the start"
21:26.43netbrainyeah. ive been reading the man..
21:26.45Tech^salvagerlol Darknoise
21:26.55Tech^salvagerROFLMAO
21:27.05Petroexcellent
21:27.12Petronetbrain: try make-kpkg
21:27.18netbraini issued the command mkinitrd -o /initrd.img but that didnt work.. couldtn boot the kernel
21:27.36netbrainmake-kpkg.. what more?
21:27.53Petronetbrain: make-kpkg --initrd [something something check out the man page]
21:28.18Petronetbrain: you'll get a pretty .deb afterwards and everything will be hugs and kisses
21:28.35DarkNoisethe later model IBM midrange and mainframe machines are sexy++ big black with red trims n stuff
21:29.07netbrainnice,..
21:29.08netbrainthanks
21:29.12PetroDarkNoise: when I did an internship at HP I got to check out their demo server room, it was so cool (authentication was a swipe card and RFID for the door)
21:29.31PetroDarkNoise: if only I could afford one...
21:29.38DarkNoiseyeah security clearance rocks
21:29.50DarkNoiseget to see leet stuff
21:29.58Petrothey gave me a RFID badge with my picture and all, I was so happy
21:30.04DarkNoisehahah
21:30.13DarkNoiseyeah mine didt have pc on it, but was still cool
21:30.20Petrocalled me Mr. Rochard, felt like my dad
21:30.27DarkNoisehahaha
21:30.38DarkNoisepeople call me darknoise is real life =\
21:30.44Petroseriously?
21:30.53DarkNoiseonly my nerd friends/housemates
21:31.04DarkNoiselike guys i used to lan with for like 2 years didnt know my real name
21:31.17DarkNoisebut we knew each other well :P
21:31.37DarkNoiseit normally gets shortened to noise tho
21:31.53Petroonly my gf calls me petro sometimes, usually it means "get the hell over here, I need some more attention bitch"
21:32.00DarkNoisehaha
21:32.07DarkNoisemy last gf calls me noise
21:32.28DarkNoisecalled me by my first name once, but then soon as she said it shes like, wait, no that sounds wrong
21:32.34p8mI compiled a kernel for my ibook and it boots up fine, however I don't see any output until X starts. What did I forget to include ? :)
21:32.56Petrog2g
21:33.01Petrofor sure this time
21:33.05DarkNoiselol kk, laters
21:33.13Petropetrochard@hotpop.com
21:35.40netbrainpetro: thanks again.. i figured it out
21:36.04netbrainsince when was it necassary with an initrd actually?
21:39.32p8mIt lets you load modules necessary to boot the system
21:41.36netbraina ppc thing?
21:46.31p8mNah, it's all on all archs. It's used by pre-build kernels so they can just build everything as a module and then load whatever you need at boot time.
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22:20.31eddypdid anybody had problems with mounting usb sticks on sarge lately?
22:34.17Hobartanyone built xorg on sarge?
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23:37.06Hobartanyone built Xorg successfully? I keep getting "No rule to make target `World'. Stop."
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23:59.58simonrvnHobart: go se the x.org site

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