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| 03:34.45 | Arturo | alguien de chile |
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| 03:59.57 | fluffy_wolf | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/07/sony_patent_barin_control/ <== so, votes. is it or is it not an april fool's joke? :P |
| 04:05.16 | simonrvn | eew |
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| 04:16.11 | gobbles | for some reason konquror doesnt have the network browser installed, but samba is working and useable by windows systems |
| 04:16.30 | gobbles | how can i browse samba shares |
| 04:16.51 | gobbles | whats the konqueror package called |
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| 04:44.13 | fluffy_wolf | simonrvn: "eew" is not a vote. :) |
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| 04:52.02 | simonrvn | fluffy_wolf: yes it is ;p |
| 04:52.42 | fluffy_wolf | did you click on the patent? |
| 04:53.04 | fluffy_wolf | it actually is in the patent database... so either the patent office is doing their first-ever joke, or someone slipped one by them. |
| 04:53.19 | simonrvn | no, those docs are usually thick with legalese, and i have enough problems with this script right now |
| 04:54.04 | simonrvn | i did however hover over the link, and yes it is in there. us patent office is full of shit anyway, they let almost anything through nowadays |
| 04:54.22 | simonrvn | i wouldn't be surprised at all if it did slip by |
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| 05:06.42 | fluffy_wolf | heh |
| 05:07.02 | fluffy_wolf | it seems excessively far fetched, and makes claims along the lines of the blind hearing. :P |
| 05:07.32 | fluffy_wolf | i.e. the blind shal hear and the deaf shall see. :) |
| 05:15.17 | simonrvn | heh |
| 05:19.03 | fluffy_wolf | http://www.wolftronix.com/suit/pages/DCP00972.htm http://www.wolftronix.com/suit/pages/DCP00971.htm <== those are too cute. :) |
| 05:19.45 | simonrvn | aaw |
| 05:22.07 | fluffy_wolf | heh :) |
| 05:22.42 | simonrvn | haha |
| 05:28.53 | fluffy_wolf | I'm not a fursuit fan, but I must admit that one is pretty well done. |
| 05:30.04 | fluffy_wolf | http://www.wolftronix.com/suit/pages/DCP00966.htm |
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| 12:04.47 | gobbles | anyone home |
| 12:05.18 | simonrvn | no. we're in outer space, playing horseshoes |
| 12:05.26 | gobbles | hehe |
| 12:05.35 | gobbles | comment ale vous |
| 12:06.00 | simonrvn | 'allez' |
| 12:06.17 | simonrvn | doing ok. et toi? |
| 12:06.59 | gobbles | question if im enough choctow to be a member of a tribe but have trouble proving lineage, am i a "metis" ? |
| 12:07.04 | gobbles | im goo btw |
| 12:07.31 | simonrvn | if you consider yourself such, i suppose. |
| 12:07.56 | gobbles | not really. i am a lost soul |
| 12:08.57 | simonrvn | up here, there's "metis" where you can trace ancestry to what's now called winnipeg, or to the voyageurs, who 'inter-married' with native women, or anyone who's mixed |
| 12:09.27 | simonrvn | mixed in the sense of mixed euro and native ancestry ;) |
| 12:09.32 | gobbles | i9m almost all three |
| 12:09.41 | gobbles | i can trace my name to the dawes role |
| 12:09.47 | simonrvn | (or anything else for that matter) |
| 12:09.48 | gobbles | but cant find the right name |
| 12:09.59 | simonrvn | can you trace family to there? |
| 12:10.23 | simonrvn | 'cause that's what they'll look at :/ |
| 12:10.26 | gobbles | no theres a break in 1000s in texas, no records at all |
| 12:10.34 | gobbles | 1800s* |
| 12:10.47 | simonrvn | some war or something i guess :/ |
| 12:10.56 | gobbles | my great grandma stole a blonde baby |
| 12:11.37 | simonrvn | ok |
| 12:11.46 | gobbles | the chocktaw accept anyone with any proven lineage, but i got a gap |
| 12:11.57 | gobbles | im 1/4 |
| 12:12.19 | simonrvn | ok |
| 12:12.58 | gobbles | my gf (who was born and raised in russia) says i look like old pics of "the proud savage" |
| 12:13.13 | gobbles | i guess thats a good thing |
| 12:13.18 | simonrvn | so go with what you feel. heh |
| 12:13.41 | simonrvn | find out about your people |
| 12:13.41 | gobbles | honestly i feel like im carving a new path |
| 12:13.53 | gobbles | my own belief systems and everything |
| 12:13.54 | simonrvn | us mixed often are :/ |
| 12:13.59 | gobbles | nothing else quite fits |
| 12:14.04 | jaska | hmm-mmh. |
| 12:14.20 | gobbles | you know chocktaw |
| 12:14.22 | simonrvn | yeh.. a lot of the old ways got subsumed into xianity, or mixed with it |
| 12:14.32 | gobbles | one of the so calles 5 civilized tribes |
| 12:14.43 | simonrvn | yeh yeh.. familiar |
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| 12:15.00 | gobbles | i did a lot of research on them and my roots |
| 12:15.08 | gobbles | i prolly should hire a pro |
| 12:15.32 | simonrvn | i did my own. dug into the records in manitoba, and at the national archives |
| 12:16.03 | gobbles | its rather amazing that so called savages had womens rights hundreds of years before settlers though |
| 12:16.32 | simonrvn | sent my findings to the gov't, they sent me a paper back saying i'm metis (wooptee-do, as if i didnt know that) |
| 12:16.37 | simonrvn | yup ;) |
| 12:16.47 | gobbles | wooptee doo |
| 12:16.48 | gobbles | hehe |
| 12:17.02 | gobbles | in the usa you get a check and land |
| 12:17.11 | simonrvn | i don't even get that |
| 12:17.20 | gobbles | its entirely up to the tribe who is and who is not |
| 12:17.29 | simonrvn | "here, have fun, now go play in the traffic" |
| 12:17.45 | gobbles | common english attitude |
| 12:18.12 | gobbles | you know why the sun never sets on the brittish empire right ? |
| 12:18.30 | gobbles | cause even the gods dont trust a brit in the dark |
| 12:18.40 | simonrvn | i *could* apply to one of the metis settlements in alberta, but they have this thing where you have to live there 5 years, and i don,t want to live in redneck land that long |
| 12:18.43 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 12:18.56 | gobbles | yikes |
| 12:19.08 | gobbles | ive never heard of the metis settlements |
| 12:19.36 | jbailey | gobbles: Are you Canadian? |
| 12:19.48 | gobbles | are they like the powhatan |
| 12:19.55 | simonrvn | *sigh*. oh well. oh, they're these lands where the alta. gov't manages, part of the deal with metis there, but the deal sucks (as usual) |
| 12:20.01 | gobbles | no im just south of ca |
| 12:20.38 | jbailey | gobbles: Ah, we get several years of Métis history as part of our Canadian History classes in Elementary school. |
| 12:20.40 | simonrvn | the deal was done up in the '50s IIRC |
| 12:20.51 | gobbles | why does it sound like a reservation of red headed step children |
| 12:20.56 | jbailey | Or at least I did, but some of that may have been growing up in a French school. =) |
| 12:21.00 | simonrvn | jbailey: now you do. when i went to HS, you get nothing |
| 12:21.29 | gobbles | i got nothing till college and even then only one class |
| 12:21.37 | jbailey | simonrvn: It also might be because I was out west, so there's a *huge* native influence anyway. |
| 12:21.47 | simonrvn | hmm, good point |
| 12:21.57 | simonrvn | i was schooled here (.qc) |
| 12:22.22 | gobbles | i forget the names of the huge tribe in the lakes region that took in other tribes... |
| 12:22.38 | simonrvn | great lakes? |
| 12:22.45 | gobbles | yes starts with an S |
| 12:22.45 | simonrvn | east, west? |
| 12:22.57 | gobbles | i guess east |
| 12:23.02 | gobbles | it was huge |
| 12:23.06 | simonrvn | 5 nations |
| 12:23.10 | simonrvn | well, 6 |
| 12:23.23 | gobbles | the women made all the war decisions |
| 12:23.28 | simonrvn | kahnienkeha'ka, etc. |
| 12:23.32 | gobbles | and they tried to stay nutral |
| 12:25.39 | simonrvn | heh :) |
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| 12:30.35 | gobbles | Iroquois |
| 12:30.41 | gobbles | haha funny lookin s |
| 12:31.16 | gobbles | the Iroquois welcomed tribes that were dieing out into their folds |
| 12:31.50 | simonrvn | yeh. adopted tonnes of people |
| 12:32.23 | gobbles | dont you guys have a lot of Iroquois? |
| 12:32.55 | simonrvn | yes :). there's a rez near here :) |
| 12:33.05 | gobbles | damn im good |
| 12:33.25 | simonrvn | kahnawake |
| 12:33.56 | gobbles | did you know chicago means "smells bad" |
| 12:34.04 | simonrvn | yes |
| 12:34.05 | gobbles | :) |
| 12:34.13 | gobbles | rather fitting |
| 12:34.25 | simonrvn | it was for the marshes in that area iirc |
| 12:34.48 | gobbles | exactly and the dumb ass whiteys built a town on it\ |
| 12:34.59 | gobbles | rotflmao |
| 12:35.27 | simonrvn | hrm, don't need that kind of language around here... |
| 12:35.31 | gobbles | so hey on to a small matter of buisiness |
| 12:35.44 | gobbles | ok |
| 12:35.47 | gobbles | sorry |
| 12:36.09 | gobbles | any idea what package makes konqueror browse windows networks |
| 12:36.27 | simonrvn | some samba thing.. lisa? |
| 12:36.33 | simonrvn | o.. |
| 12:36.37 | gobbles | i have samba installed and running fine , and lisa daemon...but still no network browsing |
| 12:36.44 | simonrvn | some kio plugin iirc |
| 12:37.11 | gobbles | is kio the program name ? |
| 12:37.49 | simonrvn | no, it's the interface to the daemons it luanches to manage that. not sure of the details |
| 12:37.59 | simonrvn | apt-cache search kde samba |
| 12:42.44 | gobbles | An error occurred while loading smb:\\: |
| 12:42.44 | gobbles | Connection to host smb:\\ is broken. |
| 12:43.09 | gobbles | i installed everything in apt |
| 12:43.27 | sk1p_ | try smb:/// |
| 12:43.58 | gobbles | omfg 2 or 3 whacks / |
| 12:45.04 | jbailey | svenl: ppc64 should just use "gcc -m64" for building the binaries, yes? |
| 12:45.46 | svenl | jbailey: i believe so. |
| 12:45.55 | svenl | jbailey: for kernels or normal binaries ? |
| 12:46.03 | jbailey | svenl: Normal binaries. |
| 12:46.24 | jbailey | svenl: I'm just trying to put the steps in the right order in my head for winding up with a gcc, binutils, glibc combo that can produce 64 bit binaries. |
| 12:46.47 | jbailey | svenl: I have updated glibc debs (to 2.3.5 from yesterday) that are NPTL-only right now. |
| 12:46.51 | sk1p | gobbles: ? |
| 12:47.04 | jbailey | svenl: Seems to work wonderfully, btw. No testsuite failures at all. |
| 12:48.04 | gobbles | yessir |
| 12:49.52 | simonrvn | jbailey: ppc 970? |
| 12:49.58 | simonrvn | or powerX |
| 12:50.43 | jbailey | simonrvn: Sorry, I don't know what that means (I'm fairly new to this arch) |
| 12:52.36 | simonrvn | ppc 970 is 'g5' |
| 12:53.58 | jbailey | simonrvn: Ah. Yes, this machine is a g5. |
| 12:54.18 | gobbles | how stable are over clocked g3's ? |
| 12:55.20 | simonrvn | cool. i wouldn't bother OCing them. some take to it better than others. and it's *at your own risk* |
| 12:56.33 | gobbles | ya i think this guy is going to trade me a 450 g3 for a 12 gb laptop drive |
| 12:57.00 | gobbles | im up to 3 oldworld macs now though |
| 12:57.01 | svenl | jbailey: did you look at the biarch toolchain waldi built on the augsbourg 8-way power5 machine ? |
| 12:57.22 | gobbles | is nubus ok with linux ? |
| 12:57.29 | svenl | gobbles: well. |
| 12:57.33 | svenl | gobbles: yes and no. |
| 12:57.50 | gobbles | i understand how its install is a pain |
| 12:57.55 | gobbles | i mean operationaly |
| 12:58.12 | svenl | gobbles: i have a 2.4.27 -nubus kernel in sarge, but i think nobody tried it out yet. |
| 12:58.24 | gobbles | hmm |
| 12:58.27 | svenl | It is based on a config and patch set sent to me by one of the nubus developers. |
| 12:58.33 | svenl | there is no d-i support yet. |
| 12:58.41 | gobbles | d-i ? |
| 12:58.50 | simonrvn | debian-installer |
| 12:58.53 | svenl | gobbles: if you have hardware, i would be very interested in helping you out on this. |
| 12:58.54 | gobbles | before i gvet on a tangent... |
| 12:59.12 | gobbles | i got annother minor oldworld g3 problem drivin me nutz |
| 12:59.14 | svenl | altough for a official sarge debian-installer support, it is too late now. |
| 12:59.50 | gobbles | i will a lil later when i get my powerpc running the way i want |
| 12:59.51 | jbailey | svenl: I haven't. I should dig up my login to that box. I've built sparc64 cross-setups before, though, so mostly I was just going to follow the same steps as that. |
| 13:00.27 | gobbles | my ppc g3 266 has an ess19xx sound card in it. when running mp3's i get hiss and pop |
| 13:00.47 | gobbles | the bnet is still enabled even though i have a 100 base -t in it |
| 13:00.54 | svenl | jbailey: well, no real need to reinvent the wheel, but you know best. I think waldi has even debian packages. |
| 13:01.25 | gobbles | im woundering if there could be hardware conflicts and if attempting to disable the bnet in OF would help |
| 13:02.38 | simonrvn | i doubt it. those older mac ppcs have 32 irqs |
| 13:02.51 | jbailey | svenl: It's good practice for me to go through the steps - I haven't done it since gcc-3.0 or -3.1, and things change from time to time. In practice it's just a bootstrap - should take only a few hours to do. |
| 13:02.58 | svenl | ok. |
| 13:03.08 | jbailey | svenl: The packages are generally already configured for it anyway (thanks for sparc64/s390x) |
| 13:03.12 | svenl | jbailey: could you document your steps while you do it ? I would like to replicate it here. |
| 13:03.46 | jbailey | svenl: Will do. Something that would help, do you have a 64bit kernel? |
| 13:04.03 | jbailey | svenl: (done as a .deb) |
| 13:04.47 | gobbles | any advice on cleaning up the audio ? |
| 13:07.05 | gobbles | sevenl only thing i need to make a descent install is a larger scsi hdd |
| 13:07.18 | gobbles | im learning the hard way not to bother with ide |
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| 13:13.07 | svenl | jbailey: not yet. |
| 13:13.12 | svenl | when do you need it ? |
| 13:13.32 | svenl | kernel-package is utterly broken, but i can compile a kernel by hand, or you could. |
| 13:14.25 | svenl | download kernel-image-2.6.11 2.6.11-2, untar the tarball, go into it, copy /boot/config-2.6.11-power4, run make ARCH=ppc64 oldconfig and reply to the questions there. |
| 13:14.43 | jbailey | svenl: I'm not in a rush. My first target is getting the glibc code updated. If you had one, I could cheerfully skip the step of building a kernel. =) |
| 13:14.54 | svenl | then you need to run : make ARCH=ppc64 ... |
| 13:14.55 | svenl | Ok. |
| 13:15.09 | svenl | i need to fix kernel-package, will try to give it a go again this WE. |
| 13:28.55 | jbailey | Cool. I'm away this weekend cooking for 100 teenagers, so I'll chat with you when I'm back. |
| 13:29.31 | svenl | ok. |
| 13:31.52 | gobbles | hey svenl can i get you to compile me one ? |
| 13:32.07 | gobbles | i been having real bad luck compiling 26 |
| 13:33.31 | jbailey | gobbles: Careful, I already have dedicated a part of my sole to svenl, he might ask the same of you... ;) |
| 13:33.55 | gobbles | hehe |
| 13:34.09 | gobbles | jbailey, woot |
| 13:34.15 | gobbles | is my text red too |
| 13:34.30 | gobbles | gobbles, test |
| 13:34.38 | gobbles | gobbles: test |
| 13:35.05 | gobbles | |
| 13:35.27 | gobbles | test |
| 13:35.50 | gobbles | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.07 | gobbles | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.14 | gobbles | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.38 | gobbles | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.17 | gobbles | its amazing how close to mirc xchat is |
| 13:37.48 | gobbles | *how close mirc and xchat are |
| 13:38.22 | jbailey | gobbles: Wha? |
| 13:38.53 | gobbles | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.22 | gobbles | when you type my name your text appears red to me |
| 13:39.26 | jbailey | Oh. You're looking at nick highlights. |
| 13:39.40 | jbailey | If you're in x-chat, and someone does that to you in another window, the tab will turn blue, too. |
| 13:39.46 | gobbles | i was trying to figure out how it was done |
| 13:39.58 | gobbles | cool ! |
| 13:40.15 | gobbles | hehe i gave away my x86 machine |
| 13:41.01 | gobbles | athlon xp 2500+ ,40gb hdd , 1 gb ram, and ati radeon 9250 se 256mb...just gave it away |
| 13:41.13 | gobbles | told my friend to get it out of my sight |
| 13:49.22 | simonrvn | eh? |
| 13:49.25 | gobbles | :) |
| 13:49.26 | simonrvn | ;P |
| 13:49.31 | gobbles | like "A" |
| 13:50.05 | gobbles | i got a serious question though |
| 13:50.18 | gobbles | why does all the best music come from canada |
| 13:50.43 | simonrvn | what else do you do besides fuck for 6 months of the year? |
| 13:51.02 | gobbles | exactly my thoughts |
| 13:51.12 | gobbles | finger 11 |
| 13:51.17 | jbailey | sleep off the exhaustion? |
| 13:51.18 | gobbles | nickle back |
| 13:51.28 | gobbles | neil young |
| 13:51.50 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.21 | simonrvn | gordon lightfoot |
| 13:52.22 | gobbles | its a sad thing to see a man chasing his testicles down a clod street |
| 13:52.30 | gobbles | woah gordon too ? |
| 13:52.34 | gobbles | sweet |
| 13:52.45 | gobbles | cold* |
| 13:52.51 | jbailey | Gordon Lightfoot is known outside of Canada? |
| 13:52.51 | jbailey | Wow. |
| 13:53.01 | simonrvn | sure |
| 13:53.05 | jbailey | Mind you, I was surprised to hear a Sarah McLaughlan CD in the US. |
| 13:53.12 | gobbles | i lovew gordon lightfoot man hes got a following here |
| 13:53.16 | jbailey | And I heard some crash test dummys being played in a mall ones. |
| 13:53.23 | simonrvn | whoah |
| 13:53.29 | jbailey | once, even. |
| 13:53.30 | gobbles | yikes ...ok sara is going a bit far |
| 13:54.04 | gobbles | but that other band...brok into the old apartmen.. |
| 13:54.16 | gobbles | this is where we used to live |
| 13:55.08 | simonrvn | nitz? |
| 13:55.20 | gobbles | nutz the i is close |
| 13:55.28 | simonrvn | ok |
| 13:55.29 | jbailey | That's what happens when the Knights who say "Ni!" go crazy. |
| 13:55.49 | simonrvn | heh |
| 13:56.26 | gobbles | barenaked ladies |
| 13:56.37 | gobbles | lovers in a dangerous time |
| 13:56.51 | gobbles | hey i like craft dinner |
| 13:57.13 | simonrvn | powdered cheese sweepings |
| 13:57.31 | gobbles | and then you must cut down the largest tree in the forrest ...with...a herring |
| 13:57.31 | simonrvn | :P |
| 13:57.32 | jbailey | KD might even be vegan. ;) |
| 13:57.45 | simonrvn | you can make it vegan =) |
| 13:58.09 | gobbles | vegan must be a canada thing |
| 13:58.23 | gobbles | eh |
| 13:58.37 | jbailey | gobbles: http://www.vegan.org/ =) It's everywhere. |
| 13:58.42 | gobbles | you guys seen a movie called "fargo" |
| 13:58.49 | simonrvn | nah, not just .ca |
| 13:58.56 | jbailey | Nope. I've heard of it, so it's either really good or really bad, though. |
| 13:59.02 | jbailey | (I live in a jar) |
| 13:59.22 | gobbles | its usa ppl but their from way up north and talk like canadians |
| 13:59.27 | simonrvn | so do i. i don't watch movies unless they run on teevee |
| 13:59.37 | gobbles | jar ? |
| 13:59.53 | simonrvn | aka "don't get out much" |
| 13:59.55 | gobbles | i dont own a tv |
| 14:00.06 | gobbles | rots the brain |
| 14:00.16 | simonrvn | we do :/. i only watch comedy and movies |
| 14:00.26 | simonrvn | the rest is crap |
| 14:00.30 | gobbles | i do movies but only on pc |
| 14:00.41 | gobbles | or mac as the case is now |
| 14:01.19 | gobbles | but hey you get the bbc |
| 14:01.30 | gobbles | thats quality programming |
| 14:01.48 | gobbles | monty python and are you being served and yes minister |
| 14:01.58 | simonrvn | monty python++ |
| 14:02.07 | gobbles | benny hill |
| 14:02.27 | gobbles | doctor who |
| 14:02.42 | simonrvn | saw the new doctor who the other night |
| 14:02.57 | gobbles | theres a new one ? |
| 14:03.02 | gobbles | not collin baker ? |
| 14:03.04 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 14:03.07 | simonrvn | no |
| 14:03.10 | gobbles | woot |
| 14:03.15 | simonrvn | evan something |
| 14:03.28 | gobbles | only 20 more years to wait till it premiers here in the usa |
| 14:04.12 | gobbles | i havent seen a new one since "the three doctors" |
| 14:04.31 | gobbles | with pertwie baker and baker |
| 14:04.37 | simonrvn | it was the "north american premiere".. i liked it. different, but the same. fancier special effects |
| 14:05.01 | gobbles | did he stil have K9 ? |
| 14:05.03 | simonrvn | the tardis thingy in the middle is just as tacky ;) |
| 14:05.09 | simonrvn | nah :/ |
| 14:05.18 | gobbles | crap k9 was sweet |
| 14:05.26 | gobbles | leilah ? |
| 14:05.46 | simonrvn | nah, new person, rose |
| 14:05.55 | gobbles | tightwad ? |
| 14:06.18 | gobbles | rose doesnt sound like any fun |
| 14:06.53 | simonrvn | she's pretty cool, though. resourceful, sense of humour, (cute ;) |
| 14:07.15 | gobbles | really. most of the docs ppl werent to bright |
| 14:07.25 | gobbles | there was one..tegan who was cool |
| 14:07.28 | simonrvn | she is though. nice change |
| 14:07.52 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 14:08.06 | gobbles | hehe i just ordered "the hitchikers guid" on dvd |
| 14:08.12 | gobbles | should be in today |
| 14:08.32 | simonrvn | the new movie or the series? |
| 14:08.43 | gobbles | the series made into a movie |
| 14:08.53 | simonrvn | ok |
| 14:09.04 | gobbles | you read all his stuff ? |
| 14:09.12 | gobbles | douglas' that is |
| 14:09.18 | simonrvn | no :/. i'd like to though |
| 14:09.30 | gobbles | get "so long and thanks for all the fish" |
| 14:09.36 | gobbles | thats book 2 |
| 14:10.22 | gobbles | you into kurt vonegut jr ? |
| 14:11.05 | gobbles | if you cant find "so long ..." msg me someday and i might have a copy i can mail you |
| 14:11.21 | simonrvn | read a couple. |
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| 14:12.12 | gobbles | i dig galapagos |
| 14:12.19 | gobbles | spelling prolly sux |
| 14:13.42 | simonrvn | that's right |
| 14:13.58 | gobbles | ice 9 |
| 14:14.42 | gobbles | i hear of a good one but havent found it yet...called "black elk speaks" |
| 14:14.45 | simonrvn | yup, and some other thing, wasn't fiction |
| 14:14.47 | gobbles | heard* |
| 14:15.27 | simonrvn | i read that, turns xian at one point though, but mostly ok |
| 14:15.44 | gobbles | good spirituality ? |
| 14:16.08 | gobbles | or just something to see inside the mind of an indian |
| 14:16.43 | simonrvn | a bit of both |
| 14:16.45 | gobbles | while were on the subject you read carlos casteneda ? |
| 14:17.00 | simonrvn | yes |
| 14:17.10 | gobbles | that was cool huh |
| 14:17.37 | simonrvn | cool yes, original no ;) |
| 14:17.55 | gobbles | sad part is, i still havent really read the story about don juan |
| 14:18.15 | gobbles | the whole wind mill thing |
| 14:18.39 | gobbles | zen and the art of motorcycle mechanics |
| 14:19.01 | gobbles | why not original |
| 14:19.45 | simonrvn | i'm not sure what to make of that... i think it's gathered info from various people... trying to pass it off as coming from one person (don juan) |
| 14:19.46 | gobbles | since college, i been avoiding books like the plague |
| 14:21.05 | simonrvn | i haven't read in a while. at least nothing non-technical |
| 14:21.23 | simonrvn | ..or online =) |
| 14:21.24 | gobbles | oh ya im reading about coldfusion |
| 14:21.44 | gobbles | both online and technical |
| 14:22.33 | gobbles | you aware you table alignment is off on your web site based on what browser you view it in |
| 14:22.42 | gobbles | your* |
| 14:22.55 | simonrvn | yes... |
| 14:23.07 | gobbles | just checking |
| 14:23.14 | simonrvn | problem with fixed and dynamic css settings |
| 14:23.37 | gobbles | height="xxx%" |
| 14:23.59 | simonrvn | stuff like that |
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| 14:24.13 | gobbles | ya but, dig this |
| 14:24.30 | gobbles | take your desktop settings while making the page |
| 14:25.00 | simonrvn | which ones? :) |
| 14:25.12 | gobbles | divide the image pixels by the total and you get a decimal number |
| 14:25.23 | gobbles | put that over 100 you got a % |
| 14:25.37 | gobbles | any given size value |
| 14:25.47 | gobbles | can be converted to % |
| 14:25.52 | gobbles | for example |
| 14:25.56 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 14:26.01 | gobbles | i have a 100 x 100 jpg |
| 14:26.17 | Nero | Can someone help me with MacOnLinux? |
| 14:26.17 | gobbles | and im designing in 800 x 600 |
| 14:26.28 | simonrvn | Nero: just ask |
| 14:26.45 | simonrvn | also try #mol |
| 14:26.54 | gobbles | i divide like this 800/100 or 1/8 |
| 14:27.09 | Nero | join #mol |
| 14:27.36 | gobbles | thats something close to 12% |
| 14:27.48 | gobbles | then i divide 600/100 |
| 14:27.53 | gobbles | or 1/6 |
| 14:27.58 | al_ | you specify your images width in percent ?.. |
| 14:28.05 | gobbles | yes |
| 14:28.12 | al_ | imagine i've a 1600x1200 screen |
| 14:28.24 | gobbles | then you go height="12%" |
| 14:28.28 | al_ | oyur 100px x 100px jpg will be a bit.. full of big pixels |
| 14:28.54 | gobbles | depends 100x100 is usualy a button |
| 14:28.58 | gobbles | so who cares |
| 14:29.26 | al_ | :/ |
| 14:29.32 | gobbles | besides if you run that res the whole internet is the size of a thumbnail to you anyway |
| 14:31.07 | gobbles | not to mention the fact that 1q2% of 1600 is pretty darn small |
| 14:31.12 | gobbles | 12%* |
| 14:31.25 | gobbles | its proportional |
| 14:31.40 | al_ | yep but a bitmap image is not made to be proportional |
| 14:31.47 | al_ | use svg if you want that |
| 14:31.53 | gobbles | you can specify x,y,z coordinants in percentages too |
| 14:32.25 | simonrvn | i agree with al_ there re: the pics, but almost anything else proprtional stuff is good |
| 14:32.33 | gobbles | i personaly only write pages for up to 1200 |
| 14:32.53 | Nero | Can someone help me with MacOnLinux? |
| 14:32.58 | gobbles | you cant please everyone all the time |
| 14:33.08 | simonrvn | i see your point, though ;) |
| 14:33.16 | gobbles | and they look great at 640,800,and 1200 |
| 14:33.18 | simonrvn | Nero: just ask the question. |
| 14:33.59 | simonrvn | @+ask |
| 14:33.59 | gobbles | soon as you get a good idea, someone has to say well what about when ... |
| 14:34.00 | ravenbird | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. It's a bit redundant and it makes some folks grumpy. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people ... |
| 14:34.04 | gobbles | screws it all up |
| 14:34.06 | gobbles | hehe |
| 14:34.32 | gobbles | you guys watch red vs blue / |
| 14:34.46 | simonrvn | never heard of it |
| 14:34.55 | gobbles | www.redvsblue.com |
| 14:35.26 | gobbles | internet cartoon seried based on halo |
| 14:35.37 | Nero | With implement from mol get I the always following error message: Failed to open /etc/mol/session.map |
| 14:35.38 | gobbles | series* |
| 14:36.26 | al_ | Nero, do you have a /etc/mol/session.map file ? :! |
| 14:36.32 | simonrvn | Nero: there's one in the .deb package |
| 14:37.26 | simonrvn | does /etc/mol have it? |
| 14:38.52 | simonrvn | Nero: BTW, do you have the 'mol' package? |
| 14:40.11 | Nero | The listing /etc/mol gives it with me that is also all datein in it except even sission.map.Ja I has those to mol .deb packs installed |
| 14:41.46 | simonrvn | so do apt-get --reinstall -d install mol, then cd /tmp; dpkg -x /var/cache/apt/archives/mol*.deb . then cp the session.map file to /etc/mol |
| 14:42.37 | gobbles | then tap your head 3 times while saying 'theres no place like home' |
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| 14:47.04 | simonrvn | plonk |
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| 15:12.24 | gilligan_ | does anyone here use WAP ecnryption with his powerbook G4 ? Just bouhgt a linksys wlan router and am trying to get this to work.. |
| 15:12.46 | simonrvn | nope. good luck. someone else does though |
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| 15:13.45 | gilligan_ | simonrvn: ah ok, so at least I can assume that it *does* work :) |
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| 15:29.34 | edward__ | just installed debian sarge on my G5 2x 2Ghz... worked fine for me.... |
| 15:29.58 | edward__ | I am now only searching for nice monitoring tools to monitor the hardware... ? |
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| 15:33.02 | simonrvn | there's several and s/w there's a tonne |
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| 15:47.42 | gilligan_ | simonrvn, are you sure u've heard of someone who got WAP to work on a powerbook ? .. it doesnt seem like the sungem driver is supporting the necessary wireless extension options.. |
| 15:47.58 | simonrvn | no |
| 15:48.58 | gilligan_ | :/ |
| 15:49.41 | gilligan_ | wpa_driver_wext_set_wpa .. -> .. ioctl : Operation not supported |
| 16:01.29 | simonrvn | oh well |
| 16:01.50 | simonrvn | sorry. thought it might... ask pahartik, he'll know more |
| 16:02.38 | gilligan_ | pahartik, around ? :) |
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| 16:05.35 | gilligan_ | oh..first of all I was not specifying the right driver (hermes), and secondly now that I did I realize that the support is not compiled in.. *might* be easy to fix.. |
| 16:09.09 | pahartik | hello gilligan_ |
| 16:14.37 | gilligan_ | pahartik, hey.. simon indicated u might have some experience/knowledge with wpa usage on powerbook ? .. |
| 16:15.58 | gilligan_ | i'm right now patching around in the wlasupplicant sources and try to get that to work then.. |
| 16:17.35 | gilligan_ | have to copying various missing file from some other driver package.. pretty "ugly" .. |
| 16:19.36 | gilligan_ | hrm.doesnt compile.. :/ |
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| 16:24.17 | pahartik | gilligan_: that is not exactly right... i use Bluetooth instead |
| 16:27.30 | gilligan_ | pahartik, i see.. i just figured that the reason why wpa didnt work in the first place was because wpasupplicant(do you use that as well?) did not have hermes support compiled in |
| 16:27.56 | gilligan_ | now i added the hermes driver i.e trying to get it to compile |
| 16:30.36 | gilligan_ | but the hermes driver violates the API.. trying to fix that |
| 16:33.12 | gilligan_ | and now I know why... that crap is for 2.4 |
| 16:33.14 | gilligan_ | .. |
| 16:33.22 | gilligan_ | darn |
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| 16:43.34 | gilligan_ | hm,i start to get a bit confused about the networking modules.. hermes/airport/sungem/orinoco... like,what is what? :) |
| 16:43.50 | gilligan_ | (still refering to a powerbook G4) |
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| 17:38.13 | Gnick | newbie (that would be me) needs advice. I have successfully installed latest release on an old Workgroup Server, an 8550, I think. What do I do (how do I) configure X-WIndows and get the GUI (KDE) to run? |
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| 18:39.16 | simonrvn | Gnick: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, install kde |
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| 18:49.02 | Gnick | Thx, will try |
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| 19:46.41 | johill | http://packages.debian.org// ?! |
| 19:46.56 | p8m | down |
| 19:47.06 | johill | why 1) does that give something and 2) that old announcement? |
| 19:47.07 | johill | no its back |
| 19:47.19 | johill | but why does it give that url if I supply // at the end? |
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| 19:48.30 | p8m | That's weird. |
| 19:49.06 | johill | yeah probably some mod_rewrite foo |
| 19:49.35 | p8m | Maybe #debian knows. |
| 19:49.59 | Bor_Ed | http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages seems to work just ok |
| 19:51.02 | johill | yeah, if you go to just http://packages.debian.org/ it redirects you there and that's fine |
| 19:51.16 | johill | I just accidentally supplied to slashes (was deleting something in the url) |
| 20:10.29 | simonrvn | oh pdo is back up now. cool |
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| 20:40.08 | gobbles | g |
| 20:40.49 | simonrvn | h |
| 20:55.15 | fluffy_wolf | i |
| 21:14.28 | Bor_Ed | k |
| 21:21.04 | fluffy_wolf | no j?! what's the world coming to?! |
| 21:21.21 | Bor_Ed | weird KB layout ? :) |
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| 21:28.25 | setdisdouz | Hello there |
| 21:29.37 | setdisdouz | Does anybody know how to install Debian on an external firewire disk ? |
| 21:45.43 | gobbles | sorry guys i got 4 key boards in front of me |
| 21:45.57 | gobbles | i forget what and where im typing most of the time |
| 21:58.00 | fluffy_wolf | heh |
| 21:59.05 | Bor_Ed | I'd be happy with kvm here too but buggr usb/adb/svga ones aren't that common |
| 22:09.54 | fluffy_wolf | heh |
| 22:10.07 | fluffy_wolf | usb is common, but adb might be a bit harder. |
| 22:10.11 | Bor_Ed | yea |
| 22:10.18 | Bor_Ed | I've noticed that |
| 22:13.23 | fluffy_wolf | upgrade any boxes that don't have usb to more modern ones? :) |
| 22:14.21 | Bor_Ed | well I have usb on desktop box with a card that doesn't seem to have driver for classic mockos even though the package and cd says so |
| 22:19.21 | fluffy_wolf | heh |
| 22:20.57 | Bor_Ed | mockos driver might be inside the .exe file but I don't have a way to extract it, it seemed to be some winhoser installer file instead of normal self extracting zip |
| 22:25.14 | fluffy_wolf | heh |
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| 22:28.52 | sobersabre | hello. |
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| 22:59.05 | sobersabre | how odo i compile for 64 bit. ( i am on ppc64 |
| 23:01.34 | dj-death | the same you compile for 32bits |
| 23:02.09 | sobersabre | do i need to give gcc some flags ? |
| 23:02.34 | sobersabre | i have tried to compile a hello world. i gor 32 bit executable |
| 23:02.36 | sobersabre | got |
| 23:03.26 | dj-death | hmm |
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| 23:04.03 | dj-death | did you install debian ppc ? or debian ppc64 ? |
| 23:04.12 | sobersabre | no |
| 23:04.33 | dj-death | no ? |
| 23:04.42 | sobersabre | i plan to, but in the meanwhile i am on sles9 . yet gcc flags are ... universal. |
| 23:05.25 | dj-death | -m64 |
| 23:05.31 | sobersabre | tried that. |
| 23:05.36 | sobersabre | ok. |
| 23:05.38 | sobersabre | thanks. |
| 23:16.51 | sobersabre | anybody tried running debian on the ibm's blades js20 ? |
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