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| 00:11.17 | snooo | i've attempted to set up some emulated mouse buttons with sysctl, but it seems to have had no effect in X. What could I be doing wrong? |
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| 00:22.10 | simonrvn | Q-FUNK: so far so good |
| 00:26.41 | simonrvn | damn... theme manager.. |
| 00:27.45 | simonrvn | ok. got some packaging bugs... |
| 00:51.53 | simonrvn | ok, just missed installing the .glade files.... *sigh* |
| 00:52.20 | simonrvn | and some pix |
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| 02:10.49 | bolete_ | dd if=boot-floppy-hfs.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync |
| 02:10.52 | bolete_ | dd: opening `/dev/fd0': Read-only file system |
| 02:11.02 | bolete_ | Any ideas? |
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| 04:15.28 | furrywolf_ | Bus 002 Device 009: ID 056a:0021 Wacom Co., Ltd Intuos 6x8 |
| 04:15.28 | furrywolf_ | Bus 002 Device 007: ID 056a:0020 Wacom Co., Ltd Intuos 4x5 |
| 04:15.28 | furrywolf_ | Bus 002 Device 006: ID 056a:0022 Wacom Co., Ltd Intuos 9x12 |
| 04:16.36 | furrywolf_ | used to only say 4x5 and 9x12. :) |
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| 13:17.45 | Turgon | Hi |
| 13:18.04 | Turgon | Anyone tried to install Debian on an IBM OpenPower? |
| 13:20.12 | Turgon | It seems nobody did :-) |
| 13:21.46 | Turgon | Ok, thanks anyway |
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| 13:22.05 | johill | lol |
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| 13:25.14 | simonrvn | um. |
| 13:25.20 | simonrvn | *sigh* |
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| 13:31.49 | johill | hm. this is weird. apt-cache suddenly segfaults out of the blue. anyone know a memory checker? |
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| 14:00.15 | simonrvn | memtest |
| 14:01.50 | johill | thanks |
| 14:02.35 | Bor_Ed | ibm openpower ? :o |
| 14:02.59 | jaska | \o/ |
| 14:03.21 | jaska | i want one |
| 14:03.23 | Bor_Ed | I wonder if that's what some call mai teron boards |
| 14:03.26 | simonrvn | *shrug*. never heard of it |
| 14:03.54 | simonrvn | grr, he left |
| 14:04.29 | simonrvn | i read "... memory checker" without parsing the rest |
| 14:04.44 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
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| 14:07.57 | johill | uh. so that caused my X to segfault |
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| 14:40.47 | Sphinx_Ra | hello |
| 14:41.31 | simonrvn | hi |
| 14:42.57 | Sphinx_Ra | is there anyway to speed up debian ?? |
| 14:43.56 | pahartik | Sphinx_Ra: yes |
| 14:45.22 | Sphinx_Ra | can't even play a video synschroom, maybe it is my voodoo card and must have a new one ?? |
| 14:46.20 | simonrvn | enable video accel |
| 14:46.54 | Sphinx_Ra | simonryn: how ?? |
| 14:46.59 | Sphinx_Ra | newbie sorry :) |
| 14:52.16 | Sphinx_Ra | hello.... |
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| 14:57.56 | simonrvn | what's your setup? machine, kernel, etc. |
| 15:01.59 | Sphinx_Ra | Pegasos 2 G4, 2.6.8 testing debian/kde |
| 15:03.00 | simonrvn | damn, i have no clue :/. ask someone else, svenl, or pahartik ^^ maybe? |
| 15:04.29 | Sphinx_Ra | i'm busy wih svenl on other channel he only says buy radeon while i have no money for it soo...screwed :) |
| 15:06.31 | simonrvn | well, it would require you editing yaboot.conf to have an append= line resembling append="video:somedriverfb", and enabling some x driver instead of fbdev, but i have no clue what it would use, nor what 'somedriver' is |
| 15:07.15 | simonrvn | it's simple really, but a lack of data is hindering this. i suggest doing some research |
| 15:08.16 | Sphinx_Ra | oki thx |
| 15:09.54 | simonrvn | good luck |
| 15:11.56 | Sphinx_Ra | thx |
| 15:11.58 | Sphinx_Ra | :) |
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| 15:43.41 | sloopy | Sphinx_Ra: the driver is tdfx |
| 15:43.47 | sloopy | you can see my XF86Config for using dri with a voodoo 3 2000 here: |
| 15:47.12 | sloopy | http://sloopym.home.comcast.net/ |
| 15:47.25 | simonrvn | sloppy++ |
| 15:47.31 | simonrvn | sloopy++ |
| 15:47.40 | simonrvn | sowwy |
| 15:48.43 | sloopy | ++? |
| 15:49.49 | Sphinx_Ra | oki thx will chexk ... need to eat thx sloopy |
| 15:50.03 | sloopy | np |
| 15:50.16 | simonrvn | add to karma |
| 15:50.42 | sloopy | ahh ok |
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| 16:07.02 | eddyp | where can I get a good live CD? the ubuntu llive cd doesn't start |
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| 16:21.09 | percussor | welll ubuntu and good is an oxymoron to begin with |
| 16:21.20 | Sphinx_Ra | sloopy: i compair the txt files from yours and mine it's almost the sme and dri is is 0666 but i have no "group 0" in it is that it ?? |
| 16:53.51 | eddyp | percussor: so, what do you suggest? |
| 16:54.42 | Bor_Ed | would the box be by any change beige mac ? |
| 17:06.04 | eddyp | Bor_Ed: talking to me? |
| 17:06.11 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 17:07.50 | simonrvn | usb freak ;p |
| 17:08.06 | furrywolf_ | lol |
| 17:08.23 | furrywolf_ | I don't know why everyone complains about usb... seems to be one of those "just works" technologies. :) |
| 17:08.46 | Bor_Ed | well I have some issues with usb... though it works mostly |
| 17:09.14 | Bor_Ed | nice thing is that mockos 9.1 crashes on load if usb extensions are enabled |
| 17:10.14 | furrywolf_ | only usb problems I've had are with my amd-750 system, where the motherboard had known, documented usb problems, kernel 2.6.8.1 which was simply broken, and a pain-in-the-ass usb flash card reader (now palmed off on someone else) that would connect/disconnect itself for no reason so often the kernel would decide it was broken. :) |
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| 17:10.47 | simonrvn | heh |
| 17:11.02 | simonrvn | why are you tailed here, and not in #debian? |
| 17:11.26 | Bor_Ed | here the digicam doesn't like to work too well, I can dump the images with gphoto2 though but not with any 'smart' tools or just file browser |
| 17:11.38 | furrywolf_ | because ircII's window support sucks. :) |
| 17:11.59 | furrywolf_ | heh. I just mount the camera and move the images off |
| 17:11.59 | simonrvn | ah :) |
| 17:12.32 | furrywolf_ | # cat digicamcopy.sh |
| 17:12.32 | furrywolf_ | mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /digicam |
| 17:12.33 | furrywolf_ | foo=/home/randyg/dcim/`date` |
| 17:12.33 | furrywolf_ | mkdir -v "$foo" |
| 17:12.33 | furrywolf_ | mv -v /digicam/dcim/100olymp/* "$foo" |
| 17:12.33 | furrywolf_ | umount /digicam |
| 17:12.34 | furrywolf_ | chown -R randyg "$foo" |
| 17:12.49 | Bor_Ed | doesn't mount as vfat... nor anything else |
| 17:12.50 | furrywolf_ | even made a little script to do it for me. :) |
| 17:13.19 | furrywolf_ | heh. get a card reader for it, and grab the pics that way? |
| 17:13.37 | Bor_Ed | cam has usb and I'd really want to fully use it |
| 17:13.47 | Bor_Ed | I have no other need for card reader(s) |
| 17:13.50 | furrywolf_ | heh |
| 17:14.05 | furrywolf_ | my old camera was serial, so bought the flash card reader to use it. |
| 17:14.38 | furrywolf_ | new camera is usb, but from what I can tell, the usb support consists of a flash card reader built in. :) |
| 17:15.32 | furrywolf_ | I've used the camera to move random files between computers twice... lol |
| 17:15.53 | Bor_Ed | I use the creative muvo usb2 stick for such |
| 17:19.43 | pahartik | furrywolf_: how about using "pmount"? |
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| 17:21.19 | furrywolf_ | don't know what pmount is |
| 17:21.47 | pahartik | furrywolf_: "pmount - mount arbitrary hotpluggable devices as normal user" |
| 17:21.54 | simonrvn | also, adding : to the chown will set group to that user's primary group |
| 17:27.12 | Bor_Ed | hmm, is it possible to setup openssh daemon to put the attacker to hosts.deny after 3 faulty logons for example ? |
| 17:27.39 | Bor_Ed | login attempts that is |
| 17:36.25 | eddyp | Bor_Ed: nope, a Powerbook G4 |
| 17:36.53 | Bor_Ed | eddyp, ahh.. recent ubuntu cd should boot on it then |
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| 17:37.10 | eddyp | furrywolf_: I have a problem with USB, well iPod acces on USB |
| 17:37.54 | eddyp | Bor_Ed: I know I have booted a prerelease live cd from ubuntu, but the released one does NOT :( |
| 17:38.05 | Bor_Ed | ouchie |
| 17:38.18 | Bor_Ed | try knoppix cds then |
| 17:38.32 | Bor_Ed | or gnoppix |
| 17:38.49 | eddyp | furrywolf_: I want to mount the iPod, but the mounting results in I/O errors |
| 17:39.04 | eddyp | I run 2.6.9 with benh sleep patch |
| 17:39.29 | pahartik | eddyp: and if you use IEEE-1394? |
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| 17:39.41 | eddyp | I have absolutelly no problems on Windows or OS X |
| 17:39.52 | eddyp | no ieee-1394 cable |
| 17:39.57 | eddyp | iPod mini |
| 17:40.06 | eddyp | 4 GB |
| 17:40.36 | eddyp | I have succesfully mounted it on a Mepis live distro on a i386 |
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| 17:40.52 | eddyp | but no succes on a SuSE live eval, also on i386 |
| 17:40.54 | pahartik | eddyp: ew... |
| 17:41.11 | eddyp | so, what gives? |
| 17:41.23 | eddyp | I am starting to blame my kernel |
| 17:41.57 | eddyp | I have EFI support out of my kernel (found out that the EFi support can be a problem) |
| 17:42.56 | eddyp | I was thinking of using devfs instead of udev |
| 17:43.32 | eddyp | ( the mepis kernel hadn't udev nor devfs ) |
| 17:43.53 | eddyp | this problems is starting to piss me off |
| 17:44.17 | eddyp | this is the reason I want to try a live CD |
| 17:45.10 | eddyp | any idea about the EFI issue? |
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| 17:50.40 | sloopy | Sphinx_Ra: still around? |
| 17:52.13 | Sphinx_Ra | sloopy: yes :) |
| 17:54.11 | sloopy | are you in 1024x768 res? |
| 17:54.24 | sloopy | and 15/16bpp? |
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| 18:01.17 | Sphinx_Ra | sloopy: yes |
| 18:06.22 | sloopy | hmmm... |
| 18:06.48 | sloopy | Sphinx_Ra: what does your x log say? |
| 18:07.09 | Sphinx_Ra | sloopy: huuh newbie, hoe to see ?? |
| 18:07.23 | sloopy | Sphinx_Ra: and do you have dri support in your kernel? |
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| 18:08.41 | Sphinx_Ra | sloopy: well, the guy who installed this linux (2.6.8 testing) said there was no 3d support for voodoo... but that have nothing to do with the speed of the OS right ?! |
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| 18:09.30 | Bor_Ed | voodoo doesn't have 3d for ppc, though it ran just fine with 2d dri too |
| 18:10.05 | sloopy | Bor_Ed: glxgears would sing with my voodoo3 and dri enabled... |
| 18:10.09 | Sphinx_Ra | dunno even what DRI is hehe newbie sorry ... |
| 18:10.32 | Bor_Ed | sloopy, here pretty much cry in pain... moved to rage128 and now I can even play tuxracer :D |
| 18:10.41 | Sphinx_Ra | bor_ed: with playing movie to ? |
| 18:11.04 | Bor_Ed | voodoo did play clips ok on mplayer |
| 18:11.20 | Sphinx_Ra | well not here :(not synchroom |
| 18:13.41 | Nijan | excuse me, why i cannot mount my macosx partition? i used -t hfs but i have mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3, |
| 18:14.01 | Bor_Ed | it's probably hfsplus |
| 18:14.15 | Bor_Ed | Nijan ^ |
| 18:14.16 | Nijan | ah, thanks |
| 18:14.23 | Sphinx_Ra | sloopy: how can i see if DRI is supported with my kernel ? |
| 18:14.55 | Nichotin | what really makes me mad is that DRI with my mach64 does not work because of the low video memory |
| 18:19.18 | simonrvn | same problem here |
| 18:20.31 | sloopy | Sphinx_Ra: check the .config for it |
| 18:21.04 | Sphinx_Ra | oki |
| 18:21.46 | sloopy | Sphinx_Ra: and if it isnt config'ed in i probly cant help you cause i dont know what things the pegasos requires... |
| 18:23.27 | Sphinx_Ra | that's oke, thx any way for trying but which config file i can see that ?? |
| 18:24.28 | simonrvn | debian install kernel configs in /boot. try more /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 18:24.32 | Nijan | nijan@elena:/mnt $ sudo mount -o remount,rw /mnt/macosx/ |
| 18:24.32 | Nijan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:24.56 | simonrvn | put it in fstab, add user (or users), and be happy |
| 18:25.06 | Nijan | added :| |
| 18:26.34 | Sphinx_Ra | thx, i have 2 configs config-2.6.8-pegasos and -powerpc |
| 18:27.12 | Nijan | nijan@elena:/mnt $ cat /etc/fstab | grep hda3 |
| 18:27.12 | Nijan | /dev/hda3 /mnt/macosx hfsplus rw,user 0 0 |
| 18:27.17 | sloopy | you need pegasos (powerpc is probly mac based ppc) |
| 18:27.29 | Sphinx_Ra | oki |
| 18:28.03 | simonrvn | Nichotin: do: defaults,rw,user if you don't mind the nodev,nosuid, etc. |
| 18:28.28 | Nijan | thanks. |
| 18:29.44 | Nijan | same, unable to read. |
| 18:29.50 | Nijan | sorry, to write. |
| 18:30.19 | simonrvn | check the dir perms |
| 18:30.28 | simonrvn | /mnt/macosx/ |
| 18:30.38 | Nijan | sudo chown -R nijan:nijan /mnt/macosx |
| 18:30.40 | Nijan | i'm trying this |
| 18:31.23 | simonrvn | uh |
| 18:34.11 | Sphinx_Ra | sloopy: the only thing i can find sofar is under "graphics support" a long list |
| 18:37.38 | Sphinx_Ra | hmm that's strange: |
| 18:37.48 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_RADEON=y |
| 18:38.58 | simonrvn | any other CONFIG_FB_ with =m or =y? |
| 18:39.27 | Sphinx_Ra | alot |
| 18:40.02 | Sphinx_Ra | shall a copy paste ?? or will i be kicked for to much words ? |
| 18:40.21 | Bor_Ed | /whois paster |
| 18:40.46 | simonrvn | @paste |
| 18:40.47 | ravenbird | paste.length >= 3 ? `/join #flood' : `/say paste.msg', or paste your output at http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 18:41.15 | Sphinx_Ra | holy... :) |
| 18:41.47 | Sphinx_Ra | # |
| 18:41.47 | Sphinx_Ra | # Graphics support |
| 18:41.47 | Sphinx_Ra | # |
| 18:41.47 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB=y |
| 18:41.47 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_CIRRUS=y |
| 18:41.48 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_PM2 is not set |
| 18:41.50 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_CYBER2000 is not set |
| 18:41.52 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_OF is not set |
| 18:41.54 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_CONTROL is not set |
| 18:41.56 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_PLATINUM is not set |
| 18:41.58 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_VALKYRIE is not set |
| 18:42.00 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_CT65550 is not set |
| 18:42.04 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_ASILIANT is not set |
| 18:42.06 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_IMSTT is not set |
| 18:42.08 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_VGA16 is not set |
| 18:42.10 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_RIVA=y |
| 18:42.12 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_RIVA_I2C=y |
| 18:42.14 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_RIVA_DEBUG is not set |
| 18:42.16 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_MATROX=y |
| 18:42.18 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_MATROX_MILLENIUM=y |
| 18:42.20 | Curalton | ... |
| 18:42.20 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_MATROX_MYSTIQUE=y |
| 18:42.22 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_MATROX_G450=y |
| 18:42.24 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_MATROX_G100=y |
| 18:42.26 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_MATROX_I2C=y |
| 18:42.28 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_MATROX_MAVEN=m |
| 18:42.34 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_MATROX_MULTIHEAD=y |
| 18:42.36 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_RADEON_OLD is not set |
| 18:42.38 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_RADEON=y |
| 18:42.40 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_RADEON_I2C=y |
| 18:42.42 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_RADEON_DEBUG is not set |
| 18:42.44 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_ATY128=y |
| 18:42.46 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_ATY=y |
| 18:42.48 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_ATY_CT=y |
| 18:42.50 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_ATY_GX=y |
| 18:42.51 | simonrvn | FFS |
| 18:42.52 | Sphinx_Ra | # CONFIG_FB_ATY_XL_INIT is not set |
| 18:42.54 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_SIS=y |
| 18:42.56 | *** mode/#debianppc [+o simonrvn] by ChanServ |
| 18:42.56 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_SIS_300=y |
| 18:42.58 | Sphinx_Ra | CONFIG_FB_SIS_315=y |
| 18:42.59 | *** kick/#debianppc [Sphinx_Ra!simon@simonrvn.user] by simonrvn (simonrvn) |
| 18:43.05 | Curalton | simonrvn: topic is redundant btw, and i think named person failed :) |
| 18:43.05 | Bor_Ed | thankee |
| 18:43.21 | *** mode/#debianppc [-o simonrvn] by ChanServ |
| 18:44.09 | Nijan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.36 | simonrvn | Curalton: what's redundant? i think so too ;) |
| 18:44.53 | Bor_Ed | umask=0777 to the fstab line too iirc |
| 18:45.08 | Curalton | Topic for .. is, reads like a c&p of a /topic output |
| 18:45.20 | *** join/#debianppc Sphinx (~Sphinx@a207117.upc-a.chello.nl) |
| 18:45.33 | simonrvn | Nijan: i told you to check the perms on the dir... like the dir only needs to be set nijan:nijan, not everything else, and just needs 770 |
| 18:45.37 | pahartik | Nijan: it would be easiest if you had same numeric UID and GID on MacOS X and Linux |
| 18:45.53 | Sphinx | SORRY |
| 18:46.17 | simonrvn | you weren't banned, just kicked |
| 18:46.36 | Sphinx | ah, well that was the first time :) |
| 18:46.55 | pahartik | Nijan: when i had MacOS X installed, i changed UID and GID of ${myself}-user on MacOS X side |
| 18:46.58 | Nijan | simonrvn, i told you i cannot change the perm of any dir. |
| 18:47.08 | simonrvn | pahartik: that would certainly help |
| 18:47.53 | furrywolf_ | guess what? firefox forgot the tabs again. |
| 18:48.05 | simonrvn | wee |
| 18:48.20 | furrywolf_ | I have been trying to use tab extensions for probably a year now. probably about 10 times, out of 100 starts, has firefox remembed them. |
| 18:48.29 | simonrvn | Curalton: um, it is the /topic ;) |
| 18:49.14 | Curalton | /topic --> Topic for #debianppc is: Topic for #debianppc is: Debian on PPC... |
| 18:49.32 | simonrvn | duh |
| 18:49.33 | Curalton | furrywolf_: which is why im using opera, they also have ppc and by now a licence works for any platform afaik |
| 18:50.02 | *** mode/#debianppc [+o simonrvn] by ChanServ |
| 18:50.02 | furrywolf_ | opera == non-free software. |
| 18:50.03 | *** topic/#debianppc by simonrvn -> Debian on PPC - think of it as a never-ending IQ test. | Want Linux 2.6? Use kernel.org or sid/sarge kernel-images; DON'T USE BENH 2.6 RSYNC | vers.: 2.6.11.6 | Wiki at tinyurl.com/2r8uc | New (2003+) PowerMacs with XFS HOWTO http://tinyurl.com/2s2os | iBook G4 HOWTO http://tinyurl.com/2488m | New penguinppc.org live! | pasting? /whois paster | ALSA bounty: http://tinyurl.com/3p4nm |
| 18:50.10 | *** mode/#debianppc [-o simonrvn] by ChanServ |
| 18:50.16 | Curalton | :) |
| 18:50.29 | furrywolf_ | .11.6 instead of .11.7? :) |
| 18:50.37 | Bor_Ed | .7 ... |
| 18:50.40 | Curalton | :> |
| 18:50.43 | simonrvn | i'd set the chan -t, but we've had trolls come in here and fuck with it :/ |
| 18:50.56 | pahartik | furrywolf_: Lynx never remembers my history after restart... but hopefully in future versions it will |
| 18:50.56 | *** mode/#debianppc [+o simonrvn] by ChanServ |
| 18:51.00 | Curalton | i remember #bash had auto +o ... |
| 18:51.04 | *** topic/#debianppc by simonrvn -> Debian on PPC - think of it as a never-ending IQ test. | Want Linux 2.6? Use kernel.org or sid/sarge kernel-images; DON'T USE BENH 2.6 RSYNC | vers.: 2.6.11.7 | Wiki at tinyurl.com/2r8uc | New (2003+) PowerMacs with XFS HOWTO http://tinyurl.com/2s2os | iBook G4 HOWTO http://tinyurl.com/2488m | New penguinppc.org live! | pasting? /whois paster | ALSA bounty: http://tinyurl.com/3p4nm |
| 18:51.10 | *** mode/#debianppc [-o simonrvn] by ChanServ |
| 18:51.13 | Bor_Ed | :) |
| 18:51.26 | Curalton | and still swsuspend support is suspended |
| 18:51.51 | furrywolf_ | so why here do people always deop themselves? never seen a channel before where the ops had to wait for services to op them whenever they need to do something... |
| 18:51.55 | Bor_Ed | not sure if the tinyurl links are alive either.. too lazy to check |
| 18:52.17 | Curalton | furrywolf_: freenode policy, also reduces +o +v etc. spam |
| 18:52.25 | simonrvn | tinyurl is alive, just the stuff behind them is unknown ;P |
| 18:52.26 | Curalton | furrywolf_: just look at *cough* quakenet |
| 18:52.29 | pahartik | furrywolf_: it is easier not to stand out in front of idiots |
| 18:52.32 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, that's what I meant |
| 18:52.42 | furrywolf_ | so when someone floods or does something else stupid, you have to wait for services to op you. good plan... |
| 18:52.43 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: :) |
| 18:53.08 | simonrvn | avoids netsplit get ops wars |
| 18:53.08 | Bor_Ed | services can kick too via /msg |
| 18:54.15 | pahartik | furrywolf_: ...potential idiots... |
| 18:54.22 | furrywolf_ | maybe I'm just more trigger-happy on the /kick. don't like waiting for chanserv when someone needs a good kicking. :) |
| 18:54.39 | simonrvn | bah, *serv are fast, i don't care |
| 18:54.44 | Bor_Ed | I have no probs kicking through bots or services |
| 18:55.08 | furrywolf_ | maybe I've spent too long on dalnet. :) |
| 18:55.12 | simonrvn | yes ;p |
| 18:55.13 | Bor_Ed | I have +o only on 1 chan currently and that's one that's going under pantynet X registration |
| 18:55.26 | pahartik | furrywolf_: i rather wonder why it needs to be done manually |
| 18:55.56 | simonrvn | i get auto-ops on some other channels here, and i always deop myself - no point. also keeps the chan temperature low |
| 18:56.06 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 18:57.40 | simonrvn | there's a side-effect too: when there's a troll or bot attack, they don't expect some chanop to appear out of nowhere to give 'em the boot ;) |
| 18:58.04 | Bor_Ed | that's the most of the fun if you happen to have screen on then :P |
| 18:58.14 | simonrvn | haha |
| 18:59.32 | simonrvn | heh |
| 18:59.59 | Bor_Ed | hmm, irssi requires some tuning but xchat for example can handle that on connect |
| 19:00.09 | furrywolf_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MareNostrum <== mmm... now that's a PPC box. |
| 19:00.14 | simonrvn | irssi can too. i have both xchat and irssi doing it |
| 19:01.03 | Bor_Ed | irssi requires ~/.irssi land fiddling, I have never got in to the multi network multi service conf options on irssi though, too high mathematics for me |
| 19:01.12 | pahartik | simonrvn: it could just be server password that is used to authenticate... |
| 19:01.24 | simonrvn | "built with 3,564 IBM PowerPC 970FX processors running at 2.2 GHz and will have 4,564 processors upon completion. The PowerPC 970 is a 64-bit processor and" *drool* |
| 19:01.36 | simonrvn | no, not quite. though my cloak it is |
| 19:01.38 | pahartik | simonrvn: server could just forward it to service |
| 19:02.04 | Bor_Ed | cloak ? that's vhost ? |
| 19:02.18 | simonrvn | /whois simorvn ;) |
| 19:02.21 | simonrvn | +n |
| 19:02.34 | Bor_Ed | yea, simonrvn.user or something like that |
| 19:02.38 | simonrvn | yup |
| 19:03.07 | Bor_Ed | what'd ya do with that info anyway ? |
| 19:03.18 | simonrvn | furrywolf_: you couldn't see that from me anyway, i have full control of my rDNS |
| 19:03.22 | furrywolf_ | make insulting comments about their country, of course. :) |
| 19:03.27 | Bor_Ed | I think everyone should have freedom to cloack him/herself if wanted |
| 19:03.36 | simonrvn | they do. just have to ask for it |
| 19:03.40 | furrywolf_ | simonrvn: if freenode is smart, they'd require the domain to also forward resolve. |
| 19:03.49 | simonrvn | it's tied in with nickserv now, so it's easy |
| 19:04.01 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, ? |
| 19:04.10 | simonrvn | the *.user cloaks |
| 19:04.20 | Bor_Ed | yes... how I can get one from nickserv ? |
| 19:04.28 | simonrvn | you just ident to it |
| 19:04.35 | Bor_Ed | I have one |
| 19:04.40 | Bor_Ed | and logged in |
| 19:05.03 | simonrvn | www.freenode.net/ |
| 19:05.12 | Bor_Ed | hmmm |
| 19:07.39 | Bor_Ed | I don't see the cloak on the http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml :o |
| 19:08.08 | simonrvn | it's on the site somewhere. how do i use a cloak or something like that (FAQ) |
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| 19:12.51 | Bor_Ed | hmm, digging some more |
| 19:13.01 | simonrvn | lessee |
| 19:13.52 | simonrvn | http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks |
| 19:15.30 | Bor_Ed | ahh, would need to contact lilo |
| 19:15.46 | furrywolf_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.54 | simonrvn | one of them. there's some generic mail account to do that |
| 19:16.03 | Bor_Ed | well I can live without the vhost too |
| 19:16.28 | Bor_Ed | FW has kept the tryouts so far pretty well |
| 19:17.27 | simonrvn | i still get crap, but less crap from wannabe kr4x0rs sitting around on the channels... |
| 19:18.21 | Bor_Ed | yea, sshd and MTA are pretty good targets I've noticed, sometimes morons try for hour or 2 hammering the ports... after they end it, I'll drop mail to their isps with the log clip :P |
| 19:19.32 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 19:20.26 | Bor_Ed | most isps don't reply at all (south korea, taiwan, romania) but some shoot even human replies and close down the user accounts |
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| 19:20.57 | simonrvn | don't even expect a real reply from 90% of them |
| 19:21.06 | guru3 | ok |
| 19:21.17 | simonrvn | guru3: i was speaking to someone else :) |
| 19:21.24 | guru3 | oh lol |
| 19:21.25 | Bor_Ed | I get reply from ~5% of the reports and most of 'em are automated |
| 19:21.55 | simonrvn | yup. i don't bother... most of the time |
| 19:22.11 | simonrvn | guru3: ask away, so the others can see what's up |
| 19:22.14 | Bor_Ed | I send the report only on the hard attacks |
| 19:22.19 | guru3 | ok, i try to start X... and it doesn't work |
| 19:22.24 | guru3 | vesa reports module not found |
| 19:22.31 | guru3 | fbdev/vga reports color mode not supported |
| 19:22.50 | simonrvn | what's the box, video, etc? |
| 19:23.16 | guru3 | 0000:00:07.0 VGA compatible controller: Decision Computer International Co.: Unknown device 6666 |
| 19:23.25 | simonrvn | wth |
| 19:23.37 | sk1p_ | pearpc? |
| 19:23.39 | Bor_Ed | sounds like some pretty weird vga chip |
| 19:23.54 | guru3 | sk1p_: you caught me :s |
| 19:23.58 | sk1p_ | ;) |
| 19:24.13 | guru3 | but it has worked before |
| 19:24.28 | simonrvn | try running this: /usr/bin/update-pciids as root, and try lspci again |
| 19:25.03 | guru3 | same thing :/ |
| 19:25.09 | sk1p_ | simonrvn: the pci id is allright, just not real hardware |
| 19:25.24 | sk1p_ | guru3: i'd try #pearpc |
| 19:25.34 | simonrvn | oh. duh me |
| 19:25.42 | guru3 | sk1p: unfortunately, i am the authority on running ppc linux in pearpc... |
| 19:25.48 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 19:25.56 | simonrvn | sorry, just the irony :) |
| 19:25.58 | guru3 | yeah |
| 19:26.04 | guru3 | tell me about it :) |
| 19:26.08 | furrywolf_ | lol |
| 19:26.43 | guru3 | so should i try recompiling the kernel? |
| 19:27.00 | simonrvn | make sure those FB drivers are built in |
| 19:27.08 | guru3 | holy shit, fbdev just worked all of a sudden |
| 19:27.16 | simonrvn | (if they aren't) |
| 19:27.16 | sk1p | heh |
| 19:27.16 | guru3 | i changed nothing |
| 19:27.16 | simonrvn | ha |
| 19:27.16 | guru3 | omg, wth |
| 19:27.27 | simonrvn | cool |
| 19:27.41 | guru3 | i bet it doesn't work the next time i try >< |
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| 19:28.05 | guru3 | now, to see if loading a window manager will work... |
| 19:30.14 | guru3 | clock : 249MHz |
| 19:30.18 | guru3 | let the games begin... |
| 19:30.42 | simonrvn | :) |
| 19:30.42 | Bor_Ed | buggr faster than I have on this g3 |
| 19:30.59 | guru3 | i remind ye that that speed is actually inacurate, and we're looking at about 1/20th host speed |
| 19:31.17 | guru3 | my host speed is 3.2ghz... |
| 19:31.30 | guru3 | well, point is, it's slow |
| 19:31.35 | Bor_Ed | 160MHz ... |
| 19:31.46 | Bor_Ed | if that's slow, I wonder what my 601/120 then is |
| 19:31.51 | guru3 | it's like running os8.1 on a quadra 700 |
| 19:32.00 | guru3 | in fact, that actually runs BETTER |
| 19:32.27 | simonrvn | pff, i've run 8.1 on a q800. runs pretty zippy |
| 19:32.39 | simonrvn | (yeh yeh, it's 040...) |
| 19:32.50 | guru3 | well, you shoulda seen my quadra 700 then... |
| 19:33.04 | guru3 | even maxed out at the 24mb mark, the extra gfx cache, the 1mb rom upgrade... |
| 19:33.08 | guru3 | 210mb scsi... |
| 19:33.17 | guru3 | anywho, that was then, this is now |
| 19:34.45 | guru3 | (sorry if im getting all offtopic) |
| 19:35.16 | Bor_Ed | this chan rarely is on topic |
| 19:35.22 | simonrvn | *grin* |
| 19:35.24 | guru3 | :) |
| 19:35.25 | furrywolf_ | lol |
| 19:35.28 | guru3 | i may have to hang out here more then :) |
| 19:35.40 | Bor_Ed | I don't think anyone would mind |
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| 19:36.01 | simonrvn | we do tend to stick around or close to it... but sometimes the topic takes a long walk off a short cat5 cable |
| 19:36.20 | guru3 | lol |
| 19:36.50 | guru3 | my point is, i guarentee this is slower than any mac with altivec that you've ever used |
| 19:36.51 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 19:37.15 | guru3 | u know the phpsysinfo script? |
| 19:37.21 | Bor_Ed | well only mac with altivec I've used was dead slow with some mockosX 10.0.something |
| 19:37.41 | guru3 | it takes about 18 seconds to generate that page |
| 19:37.42 | simonrvn | yes |
| 19:37.46 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 19:37.47 | guru3 | it takes about 3 seconds on my pentium1... |
| 19:37.51 | furrywolf_ | nor I. |
| 19:37.51 | guru3 | at 133mhz |
| 19:38.09 | simonrvn | loading it in FF takes longer than to generate it ;) |
| 19:38.23 | guru3 | i mean generateing |
| 19:38.32 | guru3 | loading with anoter comp on the lan |
| 19:39.29 | guru3 | </end rant on the slowness> |
| 19:40.05 | Bor_Ed | can you change the cpu to something less demanding like 603e ? |
| 19:40.10 | simonrvn | i need to remember what needs doing around here (other than the drying [laundry]) |
| 19:40.45 | guru3 | Bor_Ed: nope :/ |
| 19:40.52 | guru3 | one g3 fits all |
| 19:41.14 | guru3 | that aside, any idea why when it tries to configure python it dies? |
| 19:41.14 | Bor_Ed | ouch |
| 19:41.42 | simonrvn | #pearpc ;p |
| 19:41.56 | guru3 | it's a debian thing |
| 19:42.06 | Bor_Ed | #debian |
| 19:42.09 | guru3 | >< |
| 19:42.12 | furrywolf_ | lol |
| 19:42.12 | simonrvn | sarge? woody? sid? |
| 19:42.19 | guru3 | ubuntu hoary |
| 19:42.22 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 19:42.23 | guru3 | but just ignore that bit |
| 19:42.25 | Bor_Ed | that's no debian |
| 19:42.26 | simonrvn | #ubuntu-ppc |
| 19:42.29 | furrywolf_ | ubuntu != debian. |
| 19:42.36 | simonrvn | or just plain #ubuntu |
| 19:42.50 | guru3 | everytime i ask in the channels no one ever replies |
| 19:42.55 | guru3 | i wonder if i can just live w/out it... |
| 19:43.04 | Bor_Ed | switch the distro to the better one then ? :) |
| 19:43.07 | furrywolf_ | that's because no one uses ubuntu. switch to real debian. |
| 19:43.13 | simonrvn | there's still a lot more newbies i think, on those channels. like #gentoo |
| 19:43.22 | Bor_Ed | mmm, gentoo |
| 19:43.25 | guru3 | lol |
| 19:43.30 | guru3 | gentoo is a fun... distro |
| 19:43.37 | Bor_Ed | to shit on |
| 19:43.40 | guru3 | >< |
| 19:43.48 | guru3 | i like the whole compile from scratch thing |
| 19:43.53 | guru3 | that's what im trying next in pearpc :) |
| 19:43.56 | Bor_Ed | then use LFS |
| 19:44.01 | simonrvn | nah, i don't mind them, just as long as they don't troll |
| 19:44.05 | guru3 | im not ready for LFS |
| 19:44.08 | Bor_Ed | gentoo is just for spoiled kids or ex slackers |
| 19:44.10 | guru3 | ive only been using linux 1.5 years |
| 19:44.18 | simonrvn | ~2 years here |
| 19:44.29 | Bor_Ed | I built my own linux when I had been using linux for couple of years |
| 19:44.38 | Bor_Ed | back then the whole process was a bit easier |
| 19:44.39 | guru3 | i haven't hit 'years' yet |
| 19:45.37 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: i build Linux from source every now and then |
| 19:45.54 | simonrvn | i have a few packages i build locally, due to missing build options in like heimdal or some other thing |
| 19:46.03 | Bor_Ed | pahartik, I don't have interest of doing that anymore, the tools and support from ready distros are decent nowadays |
| 19:46.24 | Bor_Ed | back in late 90's it wasn't quite so |
| 19:46.33 | simonrvn | i can imagine... |
| 19:47.06 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: most recent is version 2.6.11.6 :) |
| 19:47.08 | simonrvn | in early 90s there still were sun terminals at concordia (uni. near here) |
| 19:47.12 | Bor_Ed | I'm just a lazy SOB nowadays that uses elite distro |
| 19:47.14 | simonrvn | @kernel |
| 19:47.20 | ravenbird | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.11.7, prepatch: 2.6.12-rc2, 2.4: 2.4.30, snapshot: 2.4.30-bk2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 |
| 19:47.21 | Bor_Ed | Linux version 2.6.11.6 (root@g3) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Wed Mar 30 18:33:25 EEST 2005 |
| 19:47.24 | Bor_Ed | pahartik, yes ? |
| 19:48.00 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: ...most recent that i have built... |
| 19:48.01 | simonrvn | i switched to using gcc 3.4 due to some build failures with 3.3 |
| 19:48.04 | Bor_Ed | pahartik, linux and whole OS are a bit different |
| 19:48.13 | guru3 | oh shit! i think the screensaver just kicked in D: |
| 19:48.25 | Bor_Ed | I made the whole OS from scratch from inside mandrake 7.1 |
| 19:49.07 | simonrvn | funny thing is that netatalk 2.0.2 doesn't build successfully with 3.3, but it does with 3.4 |
| 19:49.34 | simonrvn | some other stuff is turning into something like that |
| 19:49.41 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: sure... whole GNU/Linux thing and whatever |
| 19:49.51 | simonrvn | </blabbling> |
| 19:50.02 | guru3 | oh well, thnx 4 the help |
| 19:50.28 | simonrvn | np. good luck with your python |
| 19:50.54 | guru3 | yeah... ive posted to some forums |
| 19:50.58 | guru3 | ve shall see |
| 19:53.46 | Bor_Ed | what's that :o |
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| 20:24.00 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: g'night |
| 20:24.11 | Bor_Ed | catch ya all tomorrow |
| 20:24.27 | simonrvn | for sure |
| 20:24.30 | simonrvn | :) |
| 20:24.32 | Bor_Ed | :) |
| 20:24.33 | Bor_Ed | -->> |
| 20:32.30 | assassin | hrm... is there a way to bastardize a process from a terminal? |
| 20:34.20 | Curalton | bastardize? |
| 20:34.26 | assassin | divorce... seperate |
| 20:35.20 | sk1p | like ctrl+z? type 'bg' afterwards if you want it to run in the background |
| 20:35.49 | assassin | yeah... like that only I'd like to be able to switch the tty of a process |
| 20:36.53 | Curalton | disown? |
| 20:37.00 | assassin | mhmm :) |
| 20:37.21 | Curalton | and a "bastard" is just a non-marriage child, |
| 20:37.38 | assassin | Or a fatherless ;P |
| 20:37.47 | Curalton | hmm, ok :) |
| 20:38.25 | assassin | I've wanted to be able to do this... I know screen does it somehow |
| 20:38.36 | Curalton | but historically (related to bastard) the father was usually well known but could not succeed his father on the throne |
| 20:39.04 | Curalton | or just start it with a & |
| 20:41.19 | assassin | Hrm... still shows up in the same terminal... |
| 20:44.24 | simonrvn | you mean background a process... |
| 20:44.45 | simonrvn | man bash, /JOB CONTROL |
| 20:46.29 | simonrvn | as to screen doing it, you do ^a:command here |
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| 20:56.33 | assassin | simonrvn: I mean detaching a processes from it's terminal like in screen ^a-d and then retaching it to another terminal |
| 20:56.39 | assassin | like screen -r |
| 20:56.55 | simonrvn | use screen ;) |
| 20:57.11 | assassin | But it messes up my emacs bindings :P |
| 20:57.53 | simonrvn | so change it. there's example bind stuff in /etc/screenrc (or .conf) |
| 20:58.17 | guru3 | "apt-get install -f" <--- what would this do? |
| 20:58.40 | assassin | Yeah, but it'd be cooler if I could just pull irssi to another tty when I ssh |
| 20:58.44 | simonrvn | fix your install if it's fucked |
| 20:58.54 | simonrvn | man apt-get |
| 20:59.30 | assassin | Wait... screen doesn't SIGSTOP the processes on detach does it... |
| 20:59.42 | simonrvn | AFAIK, no |
| 21:00.00 | guru3 | thnx |
| 21:00.02 | simonrvn | hmmm. no, otherwise irssi would time out |
| 21:00.14 | simonrvn | (for example) |
| 21:00.41 | assassin | True... |
| 21:01.12 | guru3 | good night all |
| 21:01.15 | assassin | peace |
| 21:01.19 | simonrvn | 'night |
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| 21:59.56 | furrywolf_ | welp, with the "preempt big kernel lock" option, linux has done it... there is NO lag with my graphics tablet. things I draw appear on the screen with no delay that I can perceive. |
| 22:00.06 | furrywolf_ | take that windows and photoshop. |
| 22:00.36 | furrywolf_ | (photoshop, on a friend's computer, several times faster than mine, has a very noticable and distracting lag) |
| 22:08.16 | furrywolf_ | now why the fuck can the entire system do realistic inking with no noticable delay, yet fuckingfirefox can't remember what tabs I had open? |
| 22:08.39 | Curalton | opera .... as i said before :) |
| 22:08.56 | simonrvn | hehehe... i blame gecko. galeon does 'em ok |
| 22:08.57 | furrywolf_ | opera is non-free. both non-free as in free speech and as in free beer. |
| 22:09.14 | simonrvn | and is suckage on linux (i've tried it) |
| 22:09.21 | Curalton | i disagree :) |
| 22:09.21 | simonrvn | s/on linux// |
| 22:09.29 | furrywolf_ | and, for anyone thinking of buying a tablet, 6x8 is definitely a good size. |
| 22:10.02 | furrywolf_ | I don't find it sucks... I just don't like using proprietary software. |
| 22:10.13 | simonrvn | good. i'll try to pry that adb one out of that's guy's grasp. he does no graphics, but he says "oh i'll use it". he's a music dude. |
| 22:10.43 | furrywolf_ | lol |
| 22:10.46 | simonrvn | (then i'll hand it to my SO ;) |
| 22:10.52 | furrywolf_ | not sure ADB works... |
| 22:11.01 | simonrvn | and get another =). does here ;) |
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| 22:11.10 | furrywolf_ | Bus 002 Device 009: ID 056a:0021 Wacom Co., Ltd Intuos 6x8 |
| 22:11.10 | furrywolf_ | Bus 002 Device 008: ID 056a:0020 Wacom Co., Ltd Intuos 4x5 |
| 22:11.10 | furrywolf_ | Bus 002 Device 007: ID 056a:0022 Wacom Co., Ltd Intuos 9x12 |
| 22:11.13 | furrywolf_ | usb works here. :) |
| 22:11.24 | simonrvn | bah |
| 22:11.30 | Curalton | adb? pshop? |
| 22:11.42 | simonrvn | nah, gimpshop ;p |
| 22:11.49 | simonrvn | google gimpshop |
| 22:11.57 | Curalton | heh, i was just about to recommend that for "switching" |
| 22:12.04 | Curalton | ya, i read /. ... |
| 22:12.10 | furrywolf_ | think I should re-organize the tablets on my usb hub so they're found in sequential order of increasing size? :) |
| 22:12.18 | furrywolf_ | gimp here, of course. |
| 22:12.46 | simonrvn | gimpshop is the good ol' gimp with a photshoppish ui |
| 22:13.07 | furrywolf_ | why the hell would I want to downgrade my UI? :P |
| 22:13.41 | simonrvn | the main person coding it made an os x one first, and there's some alien'd .debs - i think it'll be in sid soon |
| 22:13.45 | simonrvn | haha :) |
| 22:14.13 | furrywolf_ | GIMPshop Updates |
| 22:14.13 | furrywolf_ | April 4th, 2005 |
| 22:14.13 | furrywolf_ | First, a quick disclaimer that I am not a programmer by any stretch. |
| 22:14.14 | furrywolf_ | I actually performed the equivalent of a lobotomy on the Gimp\u2019s source code |
| 22:14.18 | furrywolf_ | LOL |
| 22:14.27 | simonrvn | i'm content with the pshop-like bindings |
| 22:14.38 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 22:14.54 | furrywolf_ | I'm happy with gimp being gimp |
| 22:14.58 | simonrvn | hey, day after my b-day |
| 22:15.16 | furrywolf_ | are birthday paddlings customary where you live? :P |
| 22:15.27 | simonrvn | they were when i was a kid ;p |
| 22:16.05 | simonrvn | fuck, i keep getting distracted from this heimdal build |
| 22:16.21 | simonrvn | you know, that /quit msg is starting to get on my nerves |
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| 22:16.45 | simonrvn | DarkNoise: your /quit is getting a bit annoying |
| 22:16.50 | furrywolf_ | +b him. appears to be standard. :P |
| 22:16.59 | simonrvn | nah. talk first :) |
| 22:18.03 | simonrvn | urgle, he didn't use an html entity for that fancy apostrophe |
| 22:18.14 | simonrvn | \u2019 |
| 22:18.43 | Curalton | iirc there is a channel option to not show part/quit msges |
| 22:18.56 | simonrvn | yes, but i prefer leaving it on |
| 22:51.27 | bolete_ | I'm working on putting sarge on a Wallstreet. Now it black-screens and crashes when it hits gdm. How do I get it to stop trying to startx on boot? |
| 22:51.57 | simonrvn | /msg ravenbird nodm |
| 22:52.07 | simonrvn | do that here, in your irc client |
| 22:53.01 | bioterror | hmm |
| 22:53.19 | bioterror | I can't remember how you can skip it. can you return to the console? |
| 22:53.29 | simonrvn | sure. ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 22:55.22 | bolete_ | The last line sasy something about "Not starting X server...", then it instantly blackscreens. Can't even ping it. |
| 22:56.30 | bolete_ | Now it appears to be automatically rebooting after 180 seconds. |
| 22:57.37 | simonrvn | yeh, that's the dm restarting the xserver. it should kill itself off eventually |
| 22:57.39 | bolete_ | Yup, that's twice in a row. So it's crashing for sure. |
| 23:07.25 | bolete_ | OK. Got it up in single user mode. What do I edit to keep gdm from starting? |
| 23:07.40 | simonrvn | rm the symlink in rc2.d |
| 23:10.08 | bolete_ | No gdm there, just xdm. Is that it? |
| 23:10.22 | simonrvn | that's another, yes |
| 23:13.47 | bolete_ | Sorry, reading it wrong. It's there, and kdm too. I suppose I should rm rc?.d/?dm to be safe then? |
| 23:14.16 | simonrvn | double check first, but yeh |
| 23:15.14 | bolete_ | Shonuff... 3,4,5 |
| 23:15.30 | simonrvn | no need. default is 2 |
| 23:17.20 | bolete_ | The parts are flying on this attempt anyway. The poor thing has deeper problems than just that. |
| 23:17.56 | simonrvn | :/. too bad, those are cool |
| 23:18.27 | bolete_ | IT would be cooler with sarge on it. |
| 23:18.40 | simonrvn | yes :) |
| 23:37.28 | bolete_ | Does quik really work on Old world like it claims on penguinppc.org? |
| 23:38.00 | simonrvn | quik works. behaviour changed a bit, but the essentials are the same |
| 23:38.35 | bolete_ | I couldn't get it to go on the Wallstreet. |
| 23:39.01 | bolete_ | Ran it from the install floppies, and from MacOS |
| 23:39.08 | simonrvn | i think you need to do a couple of things to the wallstreet first to get it going |
| 23:39.24 | simonrvn | @macmodels |
| 23:39.34 | bolete_ | It's got BootX on it now, if that makes a difference. |
| 23:40.15 | bolete_ | @macmodels? |
| 23:40.23 | simonrvn | @macmodels is <reply> http://simonraven.nuit.ca/macppc/models.shtml or http://wiki.kisikew.org/bin/view/Know/MacModels or http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html |
| 23:40.24 | ravenbird | okay, simonrvn |
| 23:46.31 | bolete_ | It might be a PDQ then, it says 300MHz |
| 23:46.44 | bolete_ | on the label |
| 23:48.06 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 23:49.29 | bolete_ | I've got quik 2.1-3 installed, according to dpkg. How to get it booting from quik? |
| 23:50.25 | simonrvn | configure the nvram. those sites i typed into the bot have details |
| 23:50.37 | simonrvn | also penguinppc.org has something too i think |