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| 00:51.31 | BrianHV | what would I be missing in my 2.6 kernel that might cause it to boot but not show anything on my powerbook's display? |
| 00:51.54 | BrianHV | i.e., the boot process is logged, but the screen stays on the bootloader stuff with openpic and all that |
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| 01:51.28 | SteveO12310 | i have a question about installation of Debian/PowerPC_Sarge on a Powermac 3G Beige |
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| 02:11.07 | simonrvn | "equal opportunity hater" i suppose... |
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| 05:39.49 | furrywolf_ | argh. fucking paypal is claiming I've reached my sending limit. I didn't even know I _had_ a sending limit, and certainly haven't heard anything about it for the 5 years or so I've been using paypal... |
| 05:41.22 | furrywolf_ | and I have two items to pay for on ebay that it won't let me pay for |
| 05:41.31 | furrywolf_ | fucking worthless company |
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| 06:17.05 | trentbuck | I'm recompiling my kernel. How can I tell the subarch of my Mac Mini? |
| 06:17.28 | core | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 06:17.38 | trentbuck | The old value is "6xx/7xx/74xx/52xx/8260 (6xx)" |
| 06:18.00 | edward__ | trentbuck, are you compiling the latest kernel.. ? |
| 06:18.14 | trentbuck | edward__: 2.6.8. |
| 06:18.19 | edward__ | I tryed compiling the latest kernel only It failed... |
| 06:18.21 | trentbuck | using make-kpkg |
| 06:18.42 | edward__ | ah.. 2.6.8 (standard .deb) works fine on my g5 |
| 06:18.59 | edward__ | trentbuck, howcome you need to recompile.. ? |
| 06:19.17 | trentbuck | edward__: mac mini needs a 1 line patch to use sound |
| 06:19.41 | edward__ | ah... |
| 06:19.50 | edward__ | I also need to get my sount to work.. :( |
| 06:19.59 | edward__ | had no time to take a look at that yet.. :( |
| 06:20.44 | trentbuck | There's a prepackaged 2.6.11 deb, but it doesn't have sbp2 (for iPod) |
| 06:20.50 | trentbuck | http://www.pvv.org/~perchrh/macmini/ |
| 06:21.01 | edward__ | ah.. |
| 06:24.28 | edward__ | one more think.. must I use the ati driver or the redeon... ? |
| 06:24.38 | edward__ | I think I have a 9600 ati |
| 06:24.48 | edward__ | in my xfree config |
| 06:24.51 | trentbuck | For mac mini I use radeon, with framebuffer on. |
| 06:26.49 | edward__ | I'll try it... |
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| 06:32.38 | trentbuck | CONFIG_HIGHMEM is only if I have >>4Gb of memory, right? |
| 06:32.50 | edward__ | yep |
| 06:33.37 | edward__ | if you have 4 gig then you want more 64Gig support |
| 06:34.07 | trentbuck | just a mac mini, no need for that :-) |
| 06:34.14 | edward__ | ;) |
| 06:35.27 | edward__ | is this your first linux on mac.. ? |
| 06:35.38 | trentbuck | Yup. |
| 06:36.00 | edward__ | ah.. wel.. howcome you removed macosx ? |
| 06:36.22 | trentbuck | MacOS is a horrible piece of crap. |
| 06:36.29 | trentbuck | Apple *hardware* is nice. |
| 06:36.33 | edward__ | lol... |
| 06:37.13 | edward__ | I had it running for 2 days and then I removed it... |
| 06:37.25 | edward__ | strange to much gui's |
| 06:37.40 | trentbuck | Partly it's just that I'm not used to BSD. |
| 06:38.02 | edward__ | true.. goes fo me also... |
| 06:38.18 | trentbuck | I was using basilisk + macos7 for games, but basilisk can't do JIT under PPC (i.e. it it sloooow) |
| 06:39.06 | edward__ | that's basilisk ..? |
| 06:39.25 | trentbuck | Basilisk is a 680x0 emulator. |
| 06:39.51 | edward__ | ah.. and it works fine.. ? |
| 06:40.03 | trentbuck | It works on PPC, but very slowly. |
| 06:40.19 | trentbuck | Fast enough to play EV and EVO on Linux/x86, though. |
| 06:40.34 | trentbuck | apt-get install basilisk2 |
| 06:40.45 | edward__ | hm.. well. my Dual 2Ghz can help right.. ;) |
| 06:42.02 | trentbuck | You'll need a ROM from your old quadra and either a system7 install CD or a system7 disk image. |
| 06:42.25 | edward__ | hm... |
| 06:47.15 | edward__ | did you try mac-on-linux em.. ? |
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| 06:48.00 | trentbuck | edward__: they're m68k, not ppc. |
| 06:48.15 | edward__ | oh.... |
| 06:48.18 | edward__ | 2 bad |
| 06:48.58 | trentbuck | "network block devices" is a Linux-to-Linux NAS, right? |
| 06:49.21 | trentbuck | Like iSCSI? |
| 06:49.29 | edward__ | not sure.... |
| 06:49.38 | edward__ | sounds like it yes |
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| 06:53.57 | edward__ | well.. also recompiling with mppe... let's try that out right.. |
| 07:04.58 | edward__ | grr.. opengl is still slow.. you know how I can get that fixed.. ? |
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| 07:06.27 | trentbuck | edward__: glxinfo | grep rendering |
| 07:06.36 | trentbuck | does it say "direct" or "indirect"? |
| 07:06.44 | trentbuck | sorry "yes" or "no"? |
| 07:08.06 | edward__ | no |
| 07:08.17 | trentbuck | Then you have no hardware acceleration. |
| 07:08.46 | edward__ | it's a ati redeon 9600.. it that not a good card.. ? |
| 07:08.58 | trentbuck | What does the Section "Device" stanza have for Driver in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? |
| 07:09.26 | trentbuck | your CARD does hardware accel, but XFree86 might not know how to use it. |
| 07:10.07 | edward__ | I have a few things there... |
| 07:10.36 | edward__ | pageflip, agpfastwrite, dri, usefbdev |
| 07:10.49 | edward__ | that are all the options.. |
| 07:10.57 | trentbuck | Not Option, Driver. |
| 07:11.06 | trentbuck | Probably "radeon", "ati" or "vesa" |
| 07:13.45 | edward__ | redeon yes |
| 07:13.52 | edward__ | radeon yes |
| 07:15.13 | trentbuck | Are you or have you ever been^H had the proprietary ATI drivers installed? |
| 07:15.24 | trentbuck | fglrx or something like that |
| 07:15.36 | edward__ | nope.. |
| 07:15.45 | edward__ | need to get it from the site.. |
| 07:15.55 | trentbuck | Nono, *don't* get it. |
| 07:16.02 | edward__ | on my old intel I had the nvidia installed only now I have ati |
| 07:16.04 | trentbuck | fglrx breaks the radeon driver :-] |
| 07:16.11 | edward__ | ahh.. ok.. ;) |
| 07:16.34 | trentbuck | From the radeon manpage: RV350 Radeon 9600PRO/9600SE/9600, M10/M11, FireGL T2 (2D only) |
| 07:17.04 | trentbuck | So your card is too new for the open driver to have 3D support for it. |
| 07:17.39 | edward__ | grrr |
| 07:17.53 | trentbuck | The only alternative is to grab the closed fglrx driver from ATI |
| 07:18.00 | trentbuck | (and that might not work) |
| 07:18.04 | edward__ | RV350 AR |
| 07:18.36 | trentbuck | You also have to compile the fglrx dri kernel module |
| 07:18.44 | edward__ | well.. I'll try to get the driver from the site yes.. |
| 07:19.16 | trentbuck | Ubuntu has a deb of it, IIRC. |
| 07:19.37 | trentbuck | You might want to try that first. |
| 07:19.49 | edward__ | who's that./.. ? |
| 07:20.01 | trentbuck | Ubuntu? o_0 |
| 07:20.22 | trentbuck | http://ubuntulinux.org |
| 07:20.28 | edward__ | sorry.. I don't know him/her |
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| 07:21.01 | trentbuck | edward__: Ubuntu is a Debian spin-off with ease-of-use goals. |
| 07:21.54 | edward__ | just one more distro based on debian.. ahh.. ok ;) |
| 07:22.23 | edward__ | I'll try that one tnx |
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| 07:23.13 | trentbuck | you do realize that you can apt-get install Ubuntu's fglrx package on your Debian machine, right? |
| 07:35.07 | edward__ | yep... ;) |
| 07:35.41 | edward__ | ppc also right..? |
| 07:36.51 | trentbuck | correct. |
| 07:38.17 | trentbuck | This sources line should contain fglrx: |
| 07:38.22 | trentbuck | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted |
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| 07:47.39 | edward__ | what's the .deb called.. ? It can't find fglrx |
| 07:48.04 | trentbuck | apt-cache search for it. |
| 07:48.35 | edward__ | nope.. can't fine non of them... |
| 07:50.28 | trentbuck | Argh. I bet it's only available for i386. |
| 07:51.20 | edward__ | yep |
| 07:51.29 | trentbuck | Bastards. |
| 07:59.37 | edward__ | brb... need to boot my mppe kernel |
| 08:02.13 | edward__ | hehe |
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| 08:40.39 | edward__ | eh.. what driver from the site do i NEED TO COMPILE MY OWN ATI DRIVERS.. ? |
| 08:40.49 | edward__ | sorry |
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| 08:43.42 | trentbuck | edward__: I don't think you can. The fglrx driver is distributed binary-only by ATI, IIRC. |
| 08:45.18 | Bor_Ed | gatos.sf.net has compilable ati drivers |
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| 10:28.05 | one_2_one | i mouted bootstrap partitiona and i write on yaboot.conf macosx=/dev/hda12 and save a exit |
| 10:28.38 | one_2_one | and on reboot dont show macosx to choose :| it goes directly to choose linux kernel |
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| 11:52.04 | makeio | hello, i have a question, how i can configure yaboot.conf to my compurter start with the image than I want!!?? |
| 11:52.15 | makeio | as a default image |
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| 11:55.49 | one_2_one | to put dual boot i just have to put macosx=/dev/hda12 ou yaboob.con in bootstrap ? |
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| 12:40.13 | edward__ | one_2_one, yes I also need to know that.. ;) |
| 12:40.33 | one_2_one | :) |
| 12:40.58 | edward__ | well I first need to get one more disk.. so I have some time to find it out.. ;) |
| 12:41.21 | one_2_one | i added that but after reboot dont show osx to boot |
| 12:41.22 | one_2_one | :| |
| 12:42.46 | edward__ | check out : /usr/share/doc/yaboot/examples/ |
| 12:43.35 | one_2_one | k |
| 12:43.43 | one_2_one | now in on osx |
| 12:43.44 | one_2_one | :) |
| 12:43.49 | edward__ | hehe... |
| 12:43.55 | one_2_one | *iam on |
| 12:43.59 | edward__ | so you can't boot linux ? |
| 12:44.08 | one_2_one | no |
| 12:44.20 | edward__ | hold on.. I'll put it online for you |
| 12:44.28 | one_2_one | im getting the drivers of mys adsl modem to put net on linux |
| 12:44.56 | one_2_one | so you can't boot linux ? no i can boot linux |
| 12:45.24 | edward__ | http://zooi.d00s.nl/yaboot.conf.multi-boot |
| 12:45.44 | one_2_one | thks |
| 12:46.11 | edward__ | Well.. I need to get a disk then I'll look at booting OSx I can Linux |
| 12:47.51 | one_2_one | yabootconfig per default dont put macosx on config |
| 12:48.49 | edward__ | true... |
| 12:49.04 | edward__ | I need to get a USB keyboard.. the MAC one sucks.. !!!1 ;) |
| 12:49.07 | edward__ | ttyl |
| 12:49.47 | one_2_one | ;) |
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| 12:52.48 | Coutal | hello, anybody here? |
| 12:53.17 | one_2_one | y |
| 12:54.06 | Coutal | well, several issues. one is, i need to consult with someone that knows enough C to work something to a kernel patch. second, i wonder if anybody here knows how to get detailed hardware information for my macintosh (powermac 5500) |
| 12:54.34 | Coutal | that was very helpful, hmpf :P |
| 12:56.17 | Coutal | i recall something about an oldworld mac hardware book but i can't seem to find any references to it |
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| 13:26.51 | Coutal | does anybody know where can i find the "guide to macintosh family hardware" handbook or pdf? |
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| 13:42.31 | trentbuck | I just heard about these "BenH" kernels. Is it worth getting one for my MacMini+Debian/Sarge desktop? |
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| 13:45.05 | trentbuck | The latest debian package for it was 2002-03-04, which makes it sound obsolete. |
| 13:45.45 | al_ | trentbuck, use a "normal" 2.6 |
| 13:46.19 | trentbuck | al_: I have a 2.6 kernel now. I take it the benh stuff was folded in long ago? |
| 13:46.28 | al_ | yep |
| 13:46.51 | trentbuck | al_: Good-o. |
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| 14:05.11 | trentbuck | Okie, now I try to boot from it. |
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| 14:20.21 | trentbuck | Well, it the new kernel boots OK, sound and ipod are working. Unfortunately, 3d-acceleration (DRI) has stopped. Any ideas why? |
| 14:25.41 | dj-death | trentbuck: what's your box ? |
| 14:25.49 | trentbuck | Mac Mini |
| 14:25.55 | dj-death | hmmm |
| 14:25.55 | trentbuck | modprobe radeon: |
| 14:26.07 | trentbuck | dmesg: Unknown symbol drm_free |
| 14:26.14 | trentbuck | Unknown symbol drm_alloc |
| 14:26.32 | dj-death | you compile your own kernel ? |
| 14:26.56 | trentbuck | yes, just then. |
| 14:27.18 | dj-death | maybe you forgot something |
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| 14:27.40 | trentbuck | I *always* forget something :-/ The question is, what? |
| 14:28.19 | dj-death | do you have /proc/config.gz support ? |
| 14:29.12 | trentbuck | No, I left that out. I do have /boot/config's for old and new kernel, however. |
| 14:29.31 | dj-death | I have an ibook g4 which a very similar hardware |
| 14:29.37 | dj-death | zcat /proc/config.gz | grep DRM |
| 14:29.42 | dj-death | give me that : |
| 14:29.49 | dj-death | CONFIG_DRM=y |
| 14:29.53 | dj-death | CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m |
| 14:30.11 | trentbuck | That's what I have now... |
| 14:30.22 | dj-death | hmmm |
| 14:30.58 | dj-death | modprobe -l | grep drm ? |
| 14:31.20 | trentbuck | Just .../radeon.ko |
| 14:31.39 | dj-death | that's strange |
| 14:31.43 | trentbuck | I'm wondering if I set something as =y when it should be =m. |
| 14:32.08 | trentbuck | radeon.ko itself is there, but it can't find the drm_free and drm_alloc signals. |
| 14:32.16 | dj-death | well drm_alloc is probably in kernel |
| 14:32.25 | Bor_Ed | modprobe agpgart ? |
| 14:32.42 | dj-death | uninorth_agp too |
| 14:32.48 | trentbuck | Bor_Ed: That's inserted already, according to lsmod |
| 14:34.08 | trentbuck | dj-death: what version kernel are you running on your powerbook? |
| 14:34.16 | trentbuck | sorry, ibook. |
| 14:34.31 | dj-death | 2.6.9 |
| 14:35.13 | trentbuck | can you mail me your config.gz? |
| 14:35.41 | dj-death | yep |
| 14:35.44 | dj-death | mail ? |
| 14:35.49 | trentbuck | trentbuck at gmail dot com |
| 14:35.52 | dj-death | ok |
| 14:35.57 | trentbuck | cheers. |
| 14:37.34 | dj-death | sent |
| 14:40.47 | trentbuck | got it. |
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| 16:22.46 | gobbles | can anyone help me out by trying an ftp for me so i can work out the port routing ? |
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| 16:41.29 | karim | hi |
| 16:41.44 | karim | anyone have a mirror with debianised java ibm ? |
| 16:42.27 | Bor_Ed | what's wrong with the ibm offered tarball which can't be redistributed by the license info ? |
| 16:43.32 | karim | I didn't managed to regsiter |
| 16:43.35 | karim | register |
| 16:44.33 | Bor_Ed | ouch... I think simonrvn has some ver on his site... check that out (http://simonraven.nuit.ca) |
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| 16:59.38 | trentbuck | Hi fellas. I isolated the DRM fault in my kernel. |
| 16:59.46 | trentbuck | It is documented here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/03/msg00639.html |
| 17:00.00 | trentbuck | Thanks for all the help! |
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| 17:06.26 | Magaly | hi |
| 17:06.47 | Magaly | i need help with ibook G4 + X |
| 17:06.52 | Magaly | dont work |
| 17:07.05 | simonrvn | @doesn't work |
| 17:07.05 | ravenbird | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 17:08.47 | Magaly | well ravenbird my english is very bad sorry |
| 17:09.06 | petro | Magaly: what kind of graphics card? |
| 17:09.40 | simonrvn | it just means that you need to explain how it doesn't work |
| 17:10.21 | simonrvn | we're not over there, seeing the machine, we only see text here, so you'll need to explain |
| 17:10.41 | Magaly | petro: ati 9200 |
| 17:11.08 | petro | Magaly: well first off what is your native language? |
| 17:12.20 | gobbles | can anyone help me out by trying an ftp for me so i can work out the port routing ? |
| 17:12.30 | gobbles | Bor_Ed, ? |
| 17:12.37 | Magaly | petro: spanish |
| 17:13.03 | Bor_Ed | gobbles, yes ? |
| 17:13.05 | simonrvn | gobbles: i suppose |
| 17:13.30 | petro | Magaly: oh ok, I only speak french and english, well anyways what does the xserver say when you try starting it? |
| 17:13.57 | Magaly | petro: anything :-( but only the screen is black |
| 17:14.26 | Magaly | and i can not to change other console because Fn+FX dont work |
| 17:14.40 | petro | Magaly: are you completely new to GNU/Linux? |
| 17:14.46 | petro | oh ok |
| 17:14.47 | simonrvn | did you look at the log? is x starting after you boot? |
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| 17:15.34 | Magaly | petro: yes i haver debian sid |
| 17:15.53 | Magaly | simonrvn: the log is correct .............i think |
| 17:16.00 | Magaly | petro: yes i have debian sid |
| 17:18.24 | simonrvn | what i meant was did you get a chance to look at the log, and see if there were any (EE) lines in it? the log in question is /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 17:19.02 | Magaly | yes i know simonrvn and i read this log that seems thast is correct |
| 17:19.15 | simonrvn | so no (EE)? |
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| 17:20.17 | Magaly | there are some (WW) |
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| 17:55.22 | furrywolf_ | god. there has got to be an alternative to paypal. |
| 17:56.13 | furrywolf_ | one that's not run by people that are both evil and incompetent assholes |
| 17:56.30 | furrywolf_ | brb, phone |
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| 17:58.59 | Mike`_ | hey, i can't accept file from gaim nor valknut. what must i edit to fix this? |
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| 18:21.46 | edward__ | damn.. no keayboard... :( |
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| 18:39.23 | Nijan | hello, i compiled my kernel following the guide listed and reading all options but i still not able to boot with my new kernel, it load it and then i have a grey screen, what shoud i check? |
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| 20:00.38 | one_2_one | hi all |
| 20:07.03 | one_2_one | my imac speakers are making a noize :| |
| 20:07.27 | simonrvn | like *beep* *beep* ? ;p |
| 20:07.57 | one_2_one | lol |
| 20:08.00 | one_2_one | no :P |
| 20:10.32 | one_2_one | 2 things left to put this 100% triple boot on yaboot and remove this noise :) |
| 20:11.28 | simonrvn | try turning off capture on the mic (alsamixer) |
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| 20:58.16 | jchoisy | hello |
| 20:59.08 | davem | hi |
| 21:00.18 | jchoisy | can anyone tell me where to find the patch that enables 7447A based G4 laptops to boot at full speed? |
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| 21:55.33 | Meastapheles | I'm trying to untar a kernel. why would untaring the 2.6.12-rc2 kernel give "Cannot exec: No such file or dir" since I've copied and pasted the doownloaded file the name is correct, and I'm su |
| 21:55.56 | Meastapheles | I'm working under /usr/src |
| 22:17.18 | simonrvn | tab complete the name |
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| 22:22.01 | Meastapheles | i get the same errors |
| 22:22.25 | Meastapheles | I checked to see that I have tar, I do |
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| 22:24.02 | Meastapheles | I'm trying to download one to ~ and see it it'll untar there |
| 22:45.20 | Curalton | Meastapheles: can you put the tar -xjvf kernelfoo.tar.bz2 output to a pastesite? |
| 22:47.24 | Meastapheles | I found the problem. Stupid me, the kernel is a bz2 and sinse I did a server install I didn't have it installed. |
| 22:47.44 | Meastapheles | didn't have bzip2 installed, that is |
| 22:48.06 | Curalton | ah, it tried to execute the bzip2 binary, hence the exec error |
| 22:49.32 | Meastapheles | yeah, but the error said the file did not exist which what confused me, leadning me to think may it was an spelling error at first |
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| 23:45.31 | a_monkey | what packages would consist of a full directfb installation? |
| 23:46.25 | a_monkey | oops |
| 23:46.27 | a_monkey | got to go |
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