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| 02:51.08 | Curalton | how can i pin (via apt/preferences) a release similar to Pin: release a=unstable |
| 02:51.23 | Curalton | yet the line just has a ./ at the "unstable" or "testing" line |
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| 06:37.12 | chimaera | hi.. can i build applications for powerpc on an x86 box? |
| 06:38.17 | simonrvn | cross-compiling, yes |
| 06:40.42 | chimaera | simonrvn: do i do this by setting the appropriate CFLAGS? and how does tis work with headers, libs & co. i would have those compiled for ppc, too, wouldn't i? |
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| 06:41.28 | simonrvn | no, it's more involved than that. google should have all the info. something like "cross-compile ppc i386' or such |
| 06:45.34 | chimaera | simonrvn: well, if it gets tpp complicated i let my PB do all the work ;). thanks! |
| 06:45.44 | chimaera | s/tpp/too/ |
| 06:45.51 | simonrvn | ok. have fun |
| 06:46.41 | Curalton | hmm, sure its work setting all that up? what do yo plan to compile? |
| 06:46.56 | Curalton | most likely you have to compile all the bintools etc. yourself in the firstplace etc. |
| 06:47.02 | chimaera | simonrvn: before getting into this, there's still some other obstacles to overcome. trackpad (partially working, though) sound and my wifi stick (hail broadcom..). but |
| 06:47.20 | chimaera | Curalton: the plan was to compile KDE HEAD for PPC. |
| 06:48.21 | Curalton | ugh. for kde 3.4? |
| 06:48.29 | Curalton | or just to be on the bleeding edge? |
| 06:48.35 | Curalton | i.e. cvs |
| 06:50.01 | chimaera | Curalton: jepp, bleeding edge. i use it on my x86 works pretty fine. some strange conflicts with debian libs and mine in /usr/local/.. but besides that.. ;) |
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| 06:51.41 | Curalton | ouch, have fun :) - i myself use ubuntu for kde 3.4 ppc |
| 06:54.16 | chimaera | Curalton: i installed ubuntu yesterday and then added kde 3.4. it's just that i'd prefer to run debian. anyhow, the cross-compiling thing was more out of curiosity. |
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| 10:00.44 | foureyes779 | if i download the kernel src can i build that on a pmac or do i need a special kernel ? |
| 10:02.48 | foureyes779 | i have an old PowerPC 7600/133 running Debian. |
| 10:07.22 | dj-death | yes you can |
| 10:07.46 | dj-death | 2.6 kernels work fine on ppc |
| 10:17.04 | foureyes779 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.33 | foureyes779 | i cant seem to find any kernel images for pmac in the deb repositories |
| 10:19.26 | dj-death | you're maybe looking at the x86 repositories |
| 10:20.09 | foureyes779 | dj-death: good point...lemme check |
| 10:20.38 | pahartik | foureyes779: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-image-&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=main |
| 10:38.22 | chimaera | is i correct that current powerbooks don't have ADB? |
| 10:38.33 | chimaera | s/i /it/ |
| 10:39.13 | foureyes779 | tnx pahartik for the input, have a good evening. |
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| 10:44.05 | pahartik | chimaera: at least keyboard and trackpad show up as ADB devices on iBook G4 |
| 10:45.16 | chimaera | pahartik: but they won't work, seem it'S using USB internally. |
| 10:46.26 | pahartik | chimaera: PowerBooks do not work? |
| 10:46.48 | chimaera | pahartik: current powerbooks (post 02/05). |
| 10:48.25 | pahartik | chimaera: if they do not work with current USB HID drivers, damn that |
| 10:50.44 | chimaera | pahartik: keyboard works, just the trackpad dosn't out-of-the-box. there'S a driver though, although in an early state of development.. |
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| 10:56.06 | pahartik | chimaera: if they have ADB devices, "dmesg" or "lsadb" would tell |
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| 15:07.04 | Sphinx_Linux | help !!!! i got a club 3D radeon card 9250 card now and not even the bios comes up :((( |
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| 15:23.23 | Sphinx_Ra | svel: help plz !!! |
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| 15:48.24 | thebug | Sphinx_Ra: did you make sure to buy the mac version of the card? |
| 15:48.57 | Sphinx_Ra | hmmm |
| 15:49.29 | thebug | if you didn't explicitly get a mac version, it probably doesn't have the OpenFirmware ROM on it for OFW to make any sense of the card |
| 15:49.53 | thebug | unless I'm not understanding the situation, that's my guess as to what's going on |
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| 16:18.42 | xLobeznox | hi |
| 16:18.55 | xLobeznox | is there a way for reproduce dvds in G3900mhz ibooks? |
| 16:19.04 | xLobeznox | is slow with ogle and xine |
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| 17:05.56 | xLobeznox | someone can see DVD in debian ? |
| 17:06.07 | xLobeznox | is slow here |
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| 17:48.11 | msinhore | hello all |
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| 17:52.14 | msinhore | i need install de debian sarge ppc on the Power Mac G3. I use the System Disk for enable the openfirmware for select the disk boot. I write on the prompt command this: boot cd0:/install/powerpc/vmlinux, but the hw not boot from cd. I need help! :D |
| 17:53.19 | msinhore | this hw is oldworld? |
| 17:54.11 | Bor_Ed | would that be beige g3 ? |
| 17:57.39 | msinhore | Bor_Ed: I don't know. The model is PowerPC G3 233Mhz 512k cache. |
| 17:57.51 | sabi | that's a beige g3. |
| 17:58.07 | Bor_Ed | msinhore, is the case beige or colorfull ? |
| 17:59.52 | msinhore | is a beige. |
| 18:00.25 | Bor_Ed | that doesn't boot from cd... |
| 18:00.51 | Bor_Ed | and if you want standalone linux install, try to create it with scsi disk, the ide is way too buggy to be able to boot with quik |
| 18:05.58 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: you have one of those workstations, right? |
| 18:06.24 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 18:06.40 | Bor_Ed | g3/233 desktop with ati rage 128gs 16M pci gfx |
| 18:07.29 | msinhore | Bor_Ed: exist a howto for make this instalation? |
| 18:07.58 | Bor_Ed | install doc that comes on the first cd is plenty enough |
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| 18:31.23 | sabi | somehow i got a 2.6.x kernel installed and i want to go back to a 2.4.x kernel - is there anything likely to break? |
| 18:32.53 | Bor_Ed | just the module names if you've confed the sys to load some named modules |
| 18:33.18 | Curalton | just try, but have the running 2.6 kernel available in yaboot |
| 18:33.55 | sabi | hm, ok |
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| 18:34.24 | Bor_Ed | nothing that prevents from booting though |
| 18:34.30 | sabi | do i need to do anything after editing /etc/yaboot.conf? |
| 18:35.07 | Bor_Ed | try out and if you have probs, lets look again |
| 18:35.29 | sabi | ok |
| 18:35.50 | sabi | this is a machine (ibm b50) that was very hard to get installed in the first place, so i'm really scared to mess with what works |
| 18:36.48 | Curalton | sabi: yes, after every edit run ybin (or ybin -vvv ;)) |
| 18:37.09 | sabi | ok :) |
| 18:37.09 | Curalton | yaboot is sortof a mix of lilo and grub as to when to re-run it |
| 18:37.25 | sabi | this is my first time using yaboot... |
| 18:37.54 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: new ATI Radeon 9200 working fine on PowerMacintosh 7500 so far :) |
| 18:39.27 | Curalton | sabi: and best just add an entry, and always have a backupkernel ready in there! |
| 18:39.40 | sabi | ok, i'm trying :) |
| 18:40.35 | Bor_Ed | pahartik, grmbl at ya |
| 18:52.18 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: though it says "Power Mac G3, G4 or G5 computer" on package... well, it only mentions "MacOS 9.2.2, MacOS X 10.2.8 and MacOS 10.3.4" as well... this is Linux 2.6.11.7 and PowerPC 604e |
| 18:53.20 | Bor_Ed | pahartik, the FCODE works on any pci ppc mac... it's 601 or 603 code but mockos doesn't support the buggrs on older versions |
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| 18:55.54 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: yes... damn that :) |
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| 18:59.25 | Bor_Ed | yea |
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| 19:00.48 | xLobeznox | hey |
| 19:00.59 | xLobeznox | is posible to do a hfs+ partition from linux? |
| 19:01.38 | Bor_Ed | hfsplus-utils or something like that can... check out apt-cache |
| 19:04.26 | xLobeznox | ok |
| 19:04.49 | sabi | hm, no luck |
| 19:04.57 | sabi | boot: Linux24 |
| 19:04.57 | sabi | Please wait, loading kernel... |
| 19:04.57 | sabi | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.57 | sabi | instantiating rtas at 00600000 ... done |
| 19:04.57 | sabi | copying OF device tree...done |
| 19:04.59 | sabi | Calling quiesce ... |
| 19:05.02 | sabi | returning 01400000 from prom_init |
| 19:05.04 | sabi | then it hungs |
| 19:05.07 | sabi | hangs, even |
| 19:07.57 | sabi | yay, it still boots into 2.6.8 :) |
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| 20:20.52 | assassin | And people call debian developers losers... ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song37.mp3 |
| 20:24.48 | dj-death | arf ;) |
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| 20:28.48 | xLobeznox | assassin, who call losers to debian devels? |
| 20:29.26 | assassin | Mostly fedora trolls I've met ;D |
| 20:30.04 | xLobeznox | uh |
| 20:30.09 | xLobeznox | I dont care about that |
| 20:30.43 | assassin | Anyways... wth? A song w/ every point release is craziness |
| 20:31.08 | xLobeznox | I sincererlly think debian devels are nice guys |
| 20:31.27 | xLobeznox | gentoo and debian devels :-) |
| 20:31.27 | assassin | Nicer than most |
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| 20:31.33 | xLobeznox | hehe |
| 20:31.35 | simonrvn | mnay are, some aren't. and not all guys, FYI |
| 20:31.38 | assassin | Oooo... don't say the g word in here |
| 20:31.46 | xLobeznox | more than fucking osx voluntarie devels! |
| 20:31.57 | assassin | OSX has developers? |
| 20:32.01 | assassin | since when |
| 20:32.04 | xLobeznox | yes |
| 20:32.09 | xLobeznox | a community |
| 20:32.21 | xLobeznox | that develope freesoftware for a privative OS |
| 20:32.27 | xLobeznox | sucks |
| 20:32.36 | assassin | That's like paying a hooker to marry you |
| 20:32.46 | xLobeznox | is a topic "apple rules" but they should know apple sucks as microsoft no more |
| 20:33.08 | assassin | Apple just leaches off opensource |
| 20:33.34 | xLobeznox | bah |
| 20:33.38 | xLobeznox | apple sucks |
| 20:33.43 | simonrvn | xLobeznox: 'proprietary' |
| 20:33.48 | assassin | And then releases the source which has a mysteriously broken build system |
| 20:33.49 | xLobeznox | Linux wildbook 2.6.10-5-powerpc #1 Tue Apr 5 12:44:32 UTC 2005 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 20:33.52 | xLobeznox | this is a free iBook :-D |
| 20:33.57 | simonrvn | :) |
| 20:33.57 | xLobeznox | with a free OS ! |
| 20:34.14 | assassin | But... I've gotta play doom 3 somehow... |
| 20:34.27 | xLobeznox | doom 3, so what |
| 20:34.30 | xLobeznox | is only a game xD |
| 20:35.06 | assassin | Heh... It's what I do to keep me sane using only cli |
| 20:36.00 | xLobeznox | do what you want |
| 20:36.04 | xLobeznox | I like GUI world |
| 20:36.05 | xLobeznox | ^^ |
| 20:36.21 | assassin | You would :P |
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| 21:06.38 | Sphinx_Ra | hello |
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| 21:07.32 | Sphinx_Ra | i have now a radeon 9200 works oke, but 3dgames are slow and like 3d screensavers are flickering :( |
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| 21:32.33 | Sphinx | some body that a radeon 9200 linux/debian user could you plz send your x86 confix plz :) to e.poldervaart@chello.nl |
| 21:33.50 | simonrvn | google too hard? |
| 21:34.42 | Sphinx | what ?! i just want to see any compares with mine config because 3d is very slow... |
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| 21:43.54 | p8m | I'm installing debian on my powerbook and I partitioned the drive with the OSX utility on the install disk, but the debian installer doesn't see the free space/partitions. It just asks to erase whole drive. |
| 21:44.40 | simonrvn | ask in #debian-boot, or see the install guide |
| 21:44.46 | simonrvn | @sarge install guide |
| 21:44.47 | ravenbird | go see http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ for the install guide. http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/index.html |
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| 22:05.49 | Patrick` | I kinda broke quik a bit |
| 22:05.56 | Patrick` | it gets to the second stage and stops. |
| 22:06.06 | Patrick` | I have a boot floppy but anything I do to zap the prom doesn't work |
| 22:08.05 | Patrick` | I even unplugged the battery and pressed the wee button to do it manually |
| 22:08.09 | simonrvn | chroot, mv the first.b and second.b out of the way, re-install quik, run it, log out, reboot |
| 22:08.12 | Patrick` | (this is an old-world mac) |
| 22:08.13 | Patrick` | uuh |
| 22:08.15 | Patrick` | chroot? |
| 22:08.18 | Patrick` | I can't get ANYTHING up |
| 22:08.47 | Patrick` | even if I pull out the hard drive, I get some prompt complaining about the hard drive not being there |
| 22:08.57 | Patrick` | which is sensible I guess |
| 22:09.09 | Patrick` | also, I don't have any other ppc machines |
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| 22:10.36 | assassin | chroot, mv the first.b and second.b out of the way, re-install quik, run it, log out, reboot |
| 22:10.38 | simonrvn | can't boot to floppy? |
| 22:11.45 | Patrick` | no. |
| 22:11.50 | Patrick` | I have the floppy in the drive |
| 22:11.53 | Patrick` | it's being ignores. |
| 22:11.56 | Patrick` | *ignored. |
| 22:12.10 | assassin | press cmd-opt-shift-delete on startup |
| 22:12.48 | Patrick` | nope |
| 22:13.02 | Patrick` | I think I might have changed the keyboard in OF... |
| 22:13.15 | Patrick` | nope, as in that didn't work either |
| 22:13.46 | assassin | You have to do it right when you hear the chime |
| 22:13.52 | assassin | all at once |
| 22:14.04 | Patrick` | I was holding down all 4 keys before I pressed power-on |
| 22:14.19 | Patrick` | and then I held them for as long as it took to show it had no effect |
| 22:14.22 | assassin | Like I said... the chime... not power up |
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| 22:14.51 | Patrick` | the chime happens about 1/2 sec after powerup |
| 22:14.53 | simonrvn | then you need to make another floppy.... |
| 22:14.53 | assassin | Sometimes apple's are flaky when they recognize the keyboard on startup |
| 22:15.15 | Patrick` | simonrvn, it's not touching the floppy |
| 22:15.21 | Patrick` | no floppy access is happening at all. |
| 22:15.24 | Patrick` | I want it to, but it doesn't. |
| 22:15.34 | assassin | hrm... is it fd the OF drive for floppy? |
| 22:15.53 | Patrick` | I could try that as the root device but I don't know what to type |
| 22:15.54 | Patrick` | at all |
| 22:16.18 | Patrick` | also, I can only get into OF when I unplug the hard drive |
| 22:16.28 | Patrick` | so I should probably try an OF command to clear lots of stuff |
| 22:16.33 | tinton | Hi all! I live in Brazil now, so I have to deal with special int'l chars on my Wallstreet with debian. While all works well under LyX, I can't get the special chars to print out in xterm, neither in my favorite JAVA application (JabRef). I keep looking at the docs, but I'm really not sure where to start from. I don't know if it's a font problem, or not... Any help? |
| 22:16.44 | Patrick` | opt is the key with the swirly apple logo, right? |
| 22:16.55 | assassin | right... press cmd+opt+p+r on startup and keep it down for 4 restarts |
| 22:16.58 | Patrick` | and cmd is ctrl on this keyboard, I think |
| 22:16.59 | assassin | yes opt is that one ;) |
| 22:17.11 | assassin | wait... no cmnd is the apple |
| 22:17.27 | assassin | opt is the one that says opt or alt |
| 22:17.29 | Patrick` | assassin: I power it on, holding those keys. then it thinks, then it displays a quik error message and doesn't do anything no matter how long I hold them |
| 22:17.33 | Patrick` | oh bollocks |
| 22:17.35 | Patrick` | opt = alt |
| 22:17.39 | Patrick` | the one I wasn't holding |
| 22:17.41 | Patrick` | I am such a tard |
| 22:17.49 | assassin | well try my first suggestion before my second |
| 22:18.00 | Patrick` | yayy |
| 22:18.03 | Patrick` | I got the chimes |
| 22:18.10 | Patrick` | and now it boots off the floppy |
| 22:18.17 | assassin | Problem solved... |
| 22:18.18 | Patrick` | thanks for helping me see past my own stupidity |
| 22:18.28 | Patrick` | 4400/160, s'gonna make a sweet router |
| 22:18.38 | Patrick` | power consumption 20 watts at 100% cpu |
| 22:18.39 | assassin | Not a prob... and yes macs > * |
| 22:18.41 | Patrick` | TWENTY |
| 22:18.47 | Patrick` | freakin-a! |
| 22:19.35 | simonrvn | opt is not the apple key |
| 22:19.36 | Patrick` | ahem. |
| 22:19.54 | Patrick` | simonrvn: last horse finally crosses the finishing line, eh? |
| 22:20.09 | simonrvn | i'm busy. bugger off |
| 22:20.13 | Patrick` | (I apologise for my insensetivity if you're just lagging by a minute from L2) |
| 22:20.21 | Patrick` | or possibly mars |
| 22:20.34 | simonrvn | keep it up... |
| 22:21.01 | assassin | @lart Patrick` |
| 22:21.10 | Patrick` | gah |
| 22:21.25 | Patrick` | my brain's garbage collector was about to /part but now I'll look like a drama queen |
| 22:22.17 | Patrick` | I'll stick about, give back to the community |
| 22:22.19 | Patrick` | ... somehow |
| 22:22.23 | Patrick` | anyone want cookies? |
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| 22:22.38 | Patrick` | ok, ok, I'll go |
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| 22:24.13 | assassin | help is over-rated |
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| 22:27.39 | simonrvn | i don't mind if people fuck around but to fuck around in a way to piss everyone off, and disrespect people is going too far |
| 22:28.18 | furrywolf_ | heh |
| 22:28.49 | simonrvn | scroll up a bit :) |
| 22:28.57 | furrywolf_ | <Patrick`> simonrvn: last horse finally crosses the finishing line, eh? |
| 22:29.11 | simonrvn | yes, then |
| 22:29.16 | simonrvn | simonrvn i'm busy. bugger off |
| 22:29.22 | simonrvn | Patrick` (I apologise for my insensetivity if you're just lagging by a minute from L2) |
| 22:29.22 | simonrvn | Patrick` or possibly mars |
| 22:29.29 | furrywolf_ | lol |
| 22:29.45 | tinton | WOW, that was interesting. |
| 22:30.17 | simonrvn | yeh fine, i have "coarse language"... |
| 22:30.33 | tinton | simonrvn: It's so nice to see you again! |
| 22:30.45 | simonrvn | hi tinton - LTNS |
| 22:30.51 | tinton | I have been off for a while. I'm working on my masters thesis. |
| 22:31.01 | simonrvn | aah. on what? |
| 22:31.27 | tinton | Oh, I'm writing a standard for orthodontic digital data. |
| 22:31.44 | tinton | It's a way to get closer to my dad, who is an orthodontist |
| 22:31.44 | simonrvn | (yes i graduated :) |
| 22:31.54 | simonrvn | *groan* |
| 22:32.14 | simonrvn | oh, sorry, i thought you said orthogonic |
| 22:32.27 | tinton | Oh, but my masters.... My masters... Is in Brazil! It's fun. Anyway, are we not getting a little out of topic here? |
| 22:32.30 | furrywolf_ | tinton: just make sure Bush Inc doesn't get ahold of it... last thing we need is even more biometric data in the hands of corporate terrorists. |
| 22:32.41 | simonrvn | yeh, really |
| 22:33.04 | simonrvn | tinton: having a good time too? |
| 22:33.10 | simonrvn | :) |
| 22:33.29 | furrywolf_ | simon: I never went to HS, so definitely didn't graduate HS. :) |
| 22:33.31 | tinton | well, I hope not. it's just in order to get all software's be able to read any kind of data. in the ortho world it's a huge mess so far... |
| 22:33.49 | tinton | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.16 | tinton | But, I wonder if some of you can orient me toward solving this silly internationalization issue... |
| 22:34.20 | simonrvn | furrywolf_: heh |
| 22:34.27 | simonrvn | furrywolf_: didn't miss much ;) |
| 22:34.41 | tinton | I'll repeat it: Hi all! I live in Brazil now, so I have to deal with special int'l chars on my Wallstreet with debian. While all works well under LyX, I can't get the special chars to print out in xterm, neither in my favorite JAVA application (JabRef). I keep looking at the docs, but I'm really not sure where to start from. I don't know if it's a font problem, or not... Any help? |
| 22:34.51 | simonrvn | oh, cool. good for you. |
| 22:35.07 | furrywolf_ | simon: that's what I decided about a week into high school... "this is a serious waste of my time". told my teachers what I thought of them, and enrolled at the local community college. :) |
| 22:35.18 | simonrvn | i just do utf-8 and get past this iso-8859-* crap |
| 22:35.29 | simonrvn | hehe :) |
| 22:35.31 | tinton | huh! |
| 22:35.49 | tinton | I agree, but still, where do I start to tell X to show my charachters? |
| 22:36.01 | tinton | Even my JAVA app, which is totally utf8, wont show them! |
| 22:36.11 | tinton | What's up? Did I forget to install a package? |
| 22:36.19 | simonrvn | then i can do any char i want without having to wrry about what i'm typing. you just need top be careful about things file encoding, and accents |
| 22:36.40 | furrywolf_ | the ultimate justice was when I saw my old math teacher in a calculus class I was taking. a teacher who had failed me in a math class for not doing the homework. as a student in the class. FAILING THE CLASS. I laughed for about an hour straight. :) |
| 22:36.44 | simonrvn | need to set your locale before x starts, so it's in the right format |
| 22:37.01 | simonrvn | whoah =) |
| 22:37.09 | furrywolf_ | (I got an A... math is both easy and fun!) |
| 22:37.30 | tinton | OK, I'll look into that... |
| 22:37.41 | simonrvn | that's one subject i'm not good at. though ithink that's mental blockage more than anything |
| 22:37.56 | simonrvn | e.g. |
| 22:37.57 | furrywolf_ | but math is FUN! |
| 22:37.58 | simonrvn | LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 |
| 22:37.58 | simonrvn | LC_CTYPE=en_CA.UTF-8 |
| 22:38.07 | furrywolf_ | or was that to tinton? :) |
| 22:38.09 | simonrvn | locale command |
| 22:38.17 | simonrvn | no, you |
| 22:38.42 | simonrvn | man, i clipped a whole bunch of words there... |
| 22:38.57 | furrywolf_ | I need to work more on my raytracer... need to engineer an efficient world subdivision and ray-polygon intersection algorithm. |
| 22:39.38 | simonrvn | @utf-8 howto |
| 22:39.42 | simonrvn | @utf-8 |
| 22:39.42 | ravenbird | UTF-8, Unicode encoding and ISO 10646 characters as multibyte characters. RFC 2044. A superset of US-ASCII, can represent the full international character set range of Unicode. See http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/debian-utf8/HOWTO/howto.html. Try <lang>_<CC>.utf8 as your LANG variable. Eg: export LANG=en_US.utf8 (for a US-centric view of things). ... |
| 22:39.51 | simonrvn | tinton: ^^ |
| 22:41.00 | simonrvn | furrywolf_: doing something fun can always lighten your mood if you're feeling down |
| 22:41.33 | furrywolf_ | heh. /me needs someone to snuggle, otherwise he's always feeling down. |
| 22:42.10 | simonrvn | :/. so find someone then ;p |
| 22:42.29 | furrywolf_ | that's easier said than done |
| 22:43.07 | furrywolf_ | I need an emotionally mature, loving, intellectual, caring woman... yet somehow all I meet have the maturity of a 3 year old... |
| 22:43.59 | simonrvn | it's when you're not actively looking, but be open to opportunities, that you find people |
| 22:44.40 | furrywolf_ | hasn't worked yet. :P |
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| 23:03.58 | strat50s | hi |
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| 23:37.02 | tinton | Am I back? |
| 23:37.07 | tinton | OK, I'm back. |
| 23:37.15 | tinton | Yeah, I know about UTF-8, and I love it. |
| 23:38.14 | tinton | I just haven't gotten around making the transition yet. I have read about it, and tried stuff out, but things are still tricky. For instance, xemacs doesn't support it, and it drives me nuts. It actually does support it, but you know, I just want things to work. I hate having to reconfigure things 25 times... |
| 23:38.24 | tinton | But I really do want to switch over. |
| 23:38.31 | tinton | BTW, the locale setting did it. |
| 23:38.45 | tinton | For the JAVA app at least. Xterm, of course, doesn't print them. |
| 23:38.54 | tinton | But no problem for now. |
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