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| 00:54.35 | chimaera | hi. |
| 00:57.31 | chimaera | anyone tried to compile linux 2.6.12-rc3 for ppc? here it bails out with the following: http://nopaste.debianforum.de/199 |
| 01:00.37 | pahartik | chimaera: try to disable "CONFIG_CPU_FREQ"? |
| 01:01.37 | chimaera | pahartik, one way to go, but havng cpufreq-support would be a nice thing to have.. |
| 01:02.53 | wbx | anyone here have an ibook g3 xorg configuration which works? |
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| 02:03.55 | bolete | Is there ANY info ANYWHERE which details at least some of the nvsetenv key/value pairs required to get quik working? |
| 02:11.35 | pahartik | bolete: "boot-device scsi-int/sd@0:0" |
| 02:12.35 | bolete | Wallstreet. hd is not scsi. |
| 02:14.00 | wbx | uh, powerbook g3 wallstreet... |
| 02:14.46 | wbx | i only installed bsd on it, but of on this machines is buggy. ;) |
| 02:14.55 | wbx | good luck ;=) |
| 02:15.45 | bolete | Any clues welcome... |
| 02:16.01 | pahartik | bolete: http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html |
| 02:16.56 | wbx | bolete: i needed to patch of to boot bsd from disk |
| 02:17.32 | wbx | http://www.openbsd.de/~wbx/owm/nvram.txt |
| 02:17.54 | wbx | or the complete nvram patch |
| 02:17.55 | wbx | http://www.openbsd.de/~wbx/owm/of.txt |
| 02:18.09 | wbx | but with the complete patch tftp booting did not work |
| 02:18.57 | bolete | I'm running from bootx now. Debian is installed, but... |
| 02:19.18 | wbx | why then you need quirk? |
| 02:19.20 | bolete | I can't get quik to work. |
| 02:19.38 | wbx | quik is not for books which need partition zero IIRC |
| 02:19.39 | bolete | So I can dump the Macos |
| 02:20.26 | wbx | does linux boot from of? |
| 02:20.42 | bolete | Also, bootx doesn't like the 2.6.8 kernel for some reason. |
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| 02:21.36 | wbx | does it read it from disk? |
| 02:22.29 | bolete | bootx reads the kernel from the macos partition currently. |
| 02:23.03 | bolete | Quik is installed. |
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| 02:23.21 | bolete | nvsetenv is installed. |
| 02:24.02 | bolete | I think all I need is the correct set of nvsetenv incantations. |
| 02:24.23 | bolete | But I can find no documentation of them. |
| 02:25.36 | bolete | Trial and error on bootloader variables is tedious. |
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| 02:28.06 | bolete | For example: boot-device /pci/mac-io/ata0/ata-disk@0:0 -or just- ata-disk@0:0 |
| 02:28.27 | bolete | ...or something else? |
| 02:28.31 | pahartik | bolete: you could look at "/proc/device-tree/"... |
| 02:28.36 | wbx | bolete: as i said. you need the nvram patch for it. |
| 02:28.54 | wbx | bolete: take a look at your device tree. there is no ide0 |
| 02:29.22 | wbx | bolete: take a look at your device tree. there is no ata0, i mean |
| 02:32.41 | bolete | I see .../pci/mac-io/ata0/ |
| 02:33.11 | bolete | ...ata-disk/ |
| 02:33.58 | wbx | maybe you have a newer revision. hmm. did you installed the openfirmware update via macos? |
| 02:34.23 | bolete | So: /proc/device-tree/pci/mac-io/ata0/ata-disk/ |
| 02:34.37 | bolete | How to tell? |
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| 02:35.40 | bolete | I DID have OS X on this rig at one time. |
| 02:36.07 | bolete | ... or maybe two. ;) |
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| 02:38.30 | bolete | So is nvsetenv boot-device /pci/mac-io/ata0/ata-disk@0:0 likely correct? |
| 02:39.53 | pahartik | bolete: "aliases" for storage devices can be used just as well |
| 02:42.14 | bolete | Presently, I change three lines with nvsetenv. The one above... |
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| 02:43.20 | bolete | nvsetenv boot-command "begin ['] boot catch 1000 ms cr again" |
| 02:44.04 | bolete | nvsetenv boot-file "Linux root=/dev/hda9" |
| 02:44.27 | bolete | On reboot, it blackscreens. |
| 02:47.09 | simonrvn | why are you setting your root in boot-file? |
| 02:47.20 | simonrvn | i mean, that's the point of a bootloader |
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| 03:05.18 | furrywolf_ | if it weren't for the fact that I like helping people, I'd have left #debian a while ago... heh |
| 03:06.02 | simonrvn | yeh. i know how you feel |
| 03:07.00 | simonrvn | yay |
| 03:07.04 | furrywolf_ | and still no $#@! DVD reading. |
| 03:07.12 | simonrvn | :( |
| 03:07.26 | furrywolf_ | seem to have stumped lkml too. :) |
| 03:07.29 | simonrvn | finished this pkgsrc update (first one, via CVS...) |
| 03:07.59 | furrywolf_ | heh :) |
| 03:08.50 | simonrvn | check out the soname on this thing, libc.so.12.114.1 |
| 03:09.10 | furrywolf_ | heh |
| 03:09.15 | furrywolf_ | brb, thirsty |
| 03:10.41 | furrywolf_ | this seriously sucks. I need to find a new job. |
| 03:10.56 | furrywolf_ | I have $4, and the soonest I can get another paycheck is may 25th. |
| 03:12.06 | furrywolf_ | I haven't had an install since last month... so no paycheck for this month. |
| 03:12.54 | simonrvn | that does suck |
| 03:13.46 | furrywolf_ | someone owes me $94, so I'm going to bug them to pay up... and I have the fridge decently stocked... so probably won't come down to not eating. but I'm still pissed off at this job. |
| 03:14.16 | simonrvn | at least you have food and shelter |
| 03:14.16 | furrywolf_ | if I don't get an install in a week or so, I'm going to have to find a new job, as I can't live any longer than that without a paycheck. |
| 03:15.20 | furrywolf_ | next job is probably going to have to be either retail sales or fast food, as that's all that's available around here. |
| 03:15.36 | simonrvn | ugh :( |
| 03:16.38 | simonrvn | quite typical nowdays... :| |
| 03:19.26 | furrywolf_ | the only computer-related job listed I'd give a better-than-even chances of being a scam, as it lists absolutely no information and wants you to sign up to learn anything. |
| 03:20.37 | furrywolf_ | and one job for a manager, 5+ years managing experience, expert with m$ systems, and has to have a casino gaming license. (around here, only indians get those, so being white automatically discriminates against me) |
| 03:20.41 | furrywolf_ | and one data entry. |
| 03:20.46 | furrywolf_ | and that's it. |
| 03:21.15 | bolete | simonrvn: If you know of any info for setting the nvsetenv key/value pairs, please share it. |
| 03:21.27 | simonrvn | eek. |
| 03:21.43 | simonrvn | bolete: nvsetenv setting param |
| 03:22.11 | bolete | eg boot-file ? |
| 03:22.43 | furrywolf_ | two openings for senior civil engineering managers with a decade of experience, which quite completely rules me out. |
| 03:23.35 | bolete | What key and what value? |
| 03:24.01 | bolete | No documentation that I've been able to find. |
| 03:24.05 | simonrvn | boot-file isn't necessary usually |
| 03:24.23 | furrywolf_ | and one environmental engineering job (something I have no clue about), 5 years experience, must have full hazmat certification. |
| 03:24.29 | simonrvn | when it is it's usually set to what in label= |
| 03:24.49 | furrywolf_ | and that's it. that's EVERY computer, technical, mathemtical, scientific, and engineering job within 100 miles. |
| 03:25.12 | simonrvn | so it's either crap, or stuff of which you have no knowledge |
| 03:25.22 | furrywolf_ | exactly |
| 03:25.23 | simonrvn | fuck |
| 03:25.41 | bolete | I have: boot-device /pci/mac-io/ata0/ata-disk@0:0 |
| 03:25.47 | furrywolf_ | caljobs.ca.gov if you want to search yourself; I'm in humboldt county. :) |
| 03:25.59 | bolete | boot-command "begin ['] boot catch 1000 ms cr again" |
| 03:26.08 | simonrvn | bolete: if that's the right path, then it's ok |
| 03:26.29 | bolete | It blackscreens on reboot. |
| 03:26.50 | simonrvn | set input- and output-device? |
| 03:27.12 | bolete | I have not set either. |
| 03:27.52 | bolete | IT shows: input-device kbd |
| 03:28.07 | simonrvn | that's fine |
| 03:28.08 | bolete | output-device screen |
| 03:28.46 | simonrvn | might need to set that to the machine's video path in /proc/device-tree (when you add it, trim off '/proc/device-tree' |
| 03:30.42 | bolete | Say, for example, /pci/ATY,RageLTPro ? |
| 03:31.09 | simonrvn | the exact name, too. yes |
| 03:34.14 | bolete | How do I find the "exact name"? |
| 03:35.13 | furrywolf_ | hrmm. someone just listed another satellite installer job. but they want a resume. /me has never actually written a resume... |
| 03:35.46 | furrywolf_ | and do I really want to get all the same shit, just from a different boss? |
| 03:36.59 | bolete | cat /proc/device-tree/pci/ATY,RageLTPro/name returns "ATY,RageLTPro". Is that it? |
| 03:37.24 | simonrvn | whatever is in device-tree is the name |
| 03:37.42 | simonrvn | your case would be what you had |
| 03:38.08 | simonrvn | why i'm being picky is because otherwise it may need to get its PRAM zapped |
| 03:38.14 | simonrvn | ..if you fuck it up |
| 03:39.13 | bolete | I have bootx running, so when I fuck it up, it reboots to Macos and bootx. |
| 03:39.26 | bolete | and resets the nvram |
| 03:40.25 | simonrvn | so wth are you asking me about the nvram settings if you're going to use bootx anyway? please don't waste my time |
| 03:41.12 | bolete | I'm trying to wean it off bootx, and dump the macos |
| 03:41.33 | simonrvn | ween |
| 03:41.36 | simonrvn | i see |
| 03:41.42 | bolete | In the meantime, it is proving to be a very effective failsafe. |
| 03:42.17 | furrywolf_ | brb, going to unload the car. |
| 03:42.25 | myXtie | on my nubus mac nvsetenv says "Warning: Bad magic number 707 Warning: checksum error (e3e3) on nvram Segmentation fault" |
| 03:42.37 | furrywolf_ | simonrvn: while I'm away, I'll let you decide if I should write a resume and apply for this other satellite installer job. :) |
| 03:42.38 | bolete | Oh, I really want a 2.6 kernel too. ;) |
| 03:43.01 | simonrvn | myXtie: it doesn't have an OF. that util is only for OF-enabled machines |
| 03:43.10 | myXtie | most of firmwire shows ASCII on my 7400 ppc cube |
| 03:43.11 | simonrvn | furrywolf_: no =) |
| 03:44.06 | myXtie | thanks simonrvn I know I just thought what it said was funny "seg fault" part |
| 03:44.30 | simonrvn | ok.. heh |
| 03:45.54 | bolete | So the exact syntax would be "nvsetenv output-device /pci/ATY,RageLTPro" or what? |
| 03:46.22 | myXtie | aapl,pci=/@f0000000/@10ÿATYNÿÿÿÿÌÿÿ/offscreen-displayÿgprfÿÿÿÿ |
| 03:46.30 | myXtie | on a cube |
| 03:47.20 | simonrvn | bolete: i already said this. scroll up |
| 03:47.32 | bolete | The better question is: Is this crap documented anywhere? |
| 03:48.00 | simonrvn | yes. man nvsetenv .... go read it before i get POed |
| 03:48.35 | bolete | man nvsetenv does NOT documen any of the settings. |
| 03:50.44 | bolete | Quote: "Valid values for "output-devices" are (machine and/or OF dependent):" |
| 03:51.12 | bolete | No relevant listing supplied for a Wallstreet. |
| 03:52.24 | bolete | I am left guessing, which is why the Macos/bootx recovery is proving so useful. |
| 03:56.44 | simonrvn | did you try googling for this info yet? |
| 03:57.02 | bolete | Every way I could think of. |
| 03:57.22 | bolete | Most hits are really old. |
| 03:57.22 | simonrvn | your google-fu is lacking, grasshopper |
| 03:58.15 | bolete | nvstenv "wallstreet" powerbook linux |
| 03:58.34 | simonrvn | http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html http://simonraven.nuit.ca/macppc/model.shtml http://wiki.kisikew.org/bin/view/Know/MacModels |
| 03:59.04 | bolete | That one didn't come up on google. |
| 04:02.07 | bolete | Netbsd.org has no info |
| 04:02.31 | bolete | ,er, pertinent info. |
| 04:03.18 | bolete | Document the key/value pairs for the nvsetenv settings. |
| 04:03.45 | simonrvn | they depends on the machine... what are you looking for exactly? |
| 04:03.49 | simonrvn | depend* |
| 04:04.09 | bolete | Wallstreet 300Mhz |
| 04:04.28 | simonrvn | what. are. you. looking. for. exactly? |
| 04:04.47 | bolete | nvsetenv ??? |
| 04:05.11 | simonrvn | what is that supposed to mean? |
| 04:05.55 | bolete | keys, I have, listed by doing: nvsetenv |
| 04:06.19 | bolete | values are undocumented, AFAIK |
| 04:06.43 | simonrvn | you have your settings already. what's the problem? |
| 04:07.00 | bolete | Black Screen on boot. |
| 04:07.50 | bolete | Since values are undocumented, I am using the dartboard approach. |
| 04:08.02 | bolete | It isn't working. |
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| 04:14.32 | furrywolf_ | simonrvn: so, what did you decide? :) |
| 04:15.16 | bolete | simonrvn is gone |
| 04:15.52 | furrywolf_ | blah, you're right. :) |
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| 04:24.57 | myXtie | bolete your openfirmware version is 2.0.1 that shipped standard I would study "forth" for more info as for nvsetenv it just passes enviroment to OF ( sorry I am not a forth expert ) |
| 04:26.45 | bolete | The question is: What are the correct environment settings? |
| 04:27.58 | myXtie | http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/faq.html#ofw-use |
| 04:29.45 | myXtie | http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html#pbg3s |
| 04:31.32 | myXtie | I do not know correct environment settings ( sorry ) but I hope the above helps |
| 04:35.24 | myXtie | too back sourdough is not here (eb) he would know bolete |
| 04:35.33 | myXtie | http://www.penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/ |
| 04:43.10 | myXtie | bolete you may want to ask your question in #yaboot perhaps it will be answered in a day or more |
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| 04:55.07 | myXtie | http://www.penguinppc.org/bootloaders/ |
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| 05:09.40 | bolete | The netbsd FAQ has more info than I've seen in a week. |
| 05:10.11 | bolete | In OF, the hd has no "words". |
| 05:11.40 | bolete | The hd and the video card have been positively identified by OF itself. |
| 05:12.27 | myXtie | http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/arch_boot.html |
| 05:14.50 | bolete | So the question moves to: Why does the hd have no words? |
| 05:15.07 | myXtie | sure it is .properties but environment can be changed so you if your really want to know find the properties that are already set |
| 05:16.17 | myXtie | but I thought all you really want is a prom "c" type rom to boot from or to set your boot device so you don't need a mac os partition |
| 05:17.05 | myXtie | I thought you want to get rid of mac os for boot |
| 05:17.28 | bolete | Um, yeah. I'm trying to get quik to work. |
| 05:18.05 | bolete | I was just in OF, and it shows no "words" for the hard drive. |
| 05:19.27 | bolete | This is all black magic to me. ;) |
| 05:22.01 | bolete | FWIW, OF says: video is /pci/ATY,RageLTPro@11 |
| 05:22.39 | bolete | and hd is: /pci/mac-io/ata0/disk@0:0 |
| 05:23.26 | myXtie | ah now you have some info ;) |
| 05:23.58 | myXtie | http://playground.sun.com/1275/ |
| 05:24.08 | bolete | Yes, but it still won't boot. |
| 05:24.20 | myXtie | everything you ever wanted to know about openfirmware above |
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| 05:25.40 | myXtie | well but you have the environment settings now bolete ;) |
| 05:27.35 | bolete | But why no words on the hd? |
| 05:28.58 | myXtie | well what is /pci/mac-io/ata0/disk@0:0 ? I don't see no words ? |
| 05:31.49 | myXtie | their are something like aliases perhaps hd does not have an alias |
| 05:34.19 | myXtie | again I would ask someone like sourdough in #yaboot on freenode these questions , Open Firmware is something I have only played with |
| 05:35.43 | bolete | OK. I'm up in OF. |
| 05:35.52 | bolete | dev / |
| 05:36.59 | bolete | noting in /aliases |
| 05:37.06 | bolete | nothing |
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| 05:46.24 | myXtie | http://playground.sun.com/1275/bindings/ppc/release/ppc-2_1.html |
| 05:46.46 | myXtie | your OF bolete |
| 05:55.49 | myXtie | http://www.firmworks.com/QuickRef.html <---( quick ref to OF ) |
| 05:56.55 | myXtie | I would print the above out... I have |
| 06:20.53 | myXtie | I have all this stock in SGI because of MIPS I was going to buy Motorola but then like SGI they spun off processor division ( Freescale ) what is the relationship between Freescale, and IBM powerpc and perhaps Freescale and MIPS should merge. Bridgepoint/Ross is changing names again and really, |
| 06:22.42 | myXtie | I think the semiconductor industry is just a game for Big Blue and the likes and that worries me I like Freescale but what future does it have ( one like bridgepoint/ross did with fujitsu ? ) |
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| 09:12.01 | chimaera | i'm trying to build a kernel w/o initrd, but the kernel can't mount the root-fs. i have ext3 (/) and hfs (boot) compiled in. anything else i forgot? |
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| 09:13.03 | wbx | chimaera: ide support. |
| 09:13.33 | pahartik | chimaera: drivers for bus your harddisk or other root storage device is connected to |
| 09:13.57 | chimaera | let me check. again ;) |
| 09:16.14 | chimaera | well, i have IDE_PMAC and IDE_PMAC_ARA100FIRST anabled.. |
| 09:16.27 | chimaera | s/ara/ata/ |
| 09:17.21 | wbx | chimaera: did you clean before recompile? i had yesterday an issue with 2.6.11 buildsystem... changing ide into the kernel and not as modul |
| 09:18.05 | chimaera | wbx: yes, but i had it compiled in anyway. |
| 09:19.06 | chimaera | do i need DEV_IDEPCI although i use a different driver? |
| 09:19.28 | chimaera | sry, i meant IDE_GENERIC |
| 09:20.45 | chimaera | oh, wait. any chance that DEV_IDEPCI can cause trouble for DEV_IDE_PMAC? |
| 09:20.47 | pahartik | chimaera: look at what boot-related is currently loaded, by using "lsmod"? |
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| 09:38.20 | chimaera | pahartik: ah, DEV_IDEDISK was build as module.. |
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| 12:12.43 | trentbuck | G'day. My mac died while I had an HFS+ filesystem mounted, and now I can't write to it. Mounting with -o rw didn't help. Startmolling the OS X on it, then shutting down, didn't help. What should I try next? |
| 12:13.13 | _rene_ | repair it (from mac os x) |
| 12:13.42 | _rene_ | disk utility or something like that (have a german os x here..) |
| 12:15.46 | trentbuck | _rene_: Repair isn't possible, because it's the bootdisk. |
| 12:16.17 | trentbuck | Oddly, I can write to it within the MoL session. |
| 12:17.59 | theorbtwo | While it's mounted on both MoL and OSX? Sounds like a bad idea... |
| 12:18.12 | theorbtwo | Boot from a boot CD and run disk util from there? |
| 12:18.42 | _rene_ | yeah, that's the one he should do |
| 12:18.53 | trentbuck | theorbtwo: good idea. |
| 12:18.58 | _rene_ | Linuzx' hfsplus module refuses to mount hfs+ stuff rw when there are errors on it |
| 12:19.19 | _rene_ | that mac os x/mol don't doesn't matter here :) |
| 12:19.26 | trentbuck | is there a fsck.hfsplus? |
| 12:19.33 | _rene_ | nope. |
| 12:19.38 | trentbuck | bummer. |
| 12:19.51 | _rene_ | I know the mount message tells there is but there isn't |
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| 12:19.56 | _rene_ | at last I didn't see any |
| 12:20.05 | trentbuck | OK, I'll try that. Thanks for the help. |
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| 12:31.56 | redlyn | hi |
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| 14:16.29 | ioops | hi |
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| 15:25.50 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.50 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.03 | Bor_Ed | racklåda == rackmount ... what kind of beast has such specs ? |
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| 16:04.12 | simonrvn | that's big |
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| 16:19.30 | Bor_Ed | that's some real iron imo too :D |
| 16:20.00 | Bor_Ed | there's more of the gear at http://static.thepiratebay.org/ |
| 16:20.12 | Bor_Ed | (biggest scandinavian BT tracker afaik) |
| 16:21.12 | simonrvn | yeh :) (real iron) |
| 16:22.14 | Bor_Ed | wouldn't mind having one either... though the electricity bill would kill me :D |
| 16:23.10 | simonrvn | certainly here too. if those things were cheap on power (and cheap ;)... ;) |
| 16:23.45 | Bor_Ed | well, got to start looking for some mpc7448A based boards |
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| 16:35.39 | p8r | Hi, just in the search for a german X keymap for a TiBook... None found on the list so far, any ideas? |
| 16:37.56 | Bor_Ed | try pc105 keymap.. it could work |
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| 16:41.10 | Leon | is there a graphical disk partitioning utility for debian? |
| 16:41.42 | damog | qtparted |
| 16:41.53 | damog | gparted is still under itp |
| 16:42.17 | damog | Leon: but you can gran this: |
| 16:42.20 | damog | grab* |
| 16:42.21 | damog | http://damog.puntodeb.net/debian/gparted/ |
| 16:45.32 | Leon | I get strange errors when partitioning |
| 16:45.46 | Leon | actually, just one |
| 16:45.54 | Leon | Segmentation fault |
| 16:46.29 | simonrvn | i wouldn't use something x-based to partition my disks anyway |
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| 16:49.11 | Leon | is there a debian live cd? |
| 16:49.15 | Leon | can I make one? |
| 16:49.44 | simonrvn | no there isn't. there are debian-based distros that make some |
| 16:50.07 | Bor_Ed | knoppix would be one with pretty good reputation |
| 16:51.18 | Leon | and anyone without x? |
| 16:51.21 | simonrvn | i think i need to find another mobo for this thing. goddamned slow, this POS x86 |
| 16:51.57 | simonrvn | or find a pci ide/ata card =) |
| 16:54.20 | Bor_Ed | I have only isa multi-io cards, sowwy :) |
| 16:54.48 | simonrvn | 16 bit busses scare me, frankly. |
| 16:56.01 | pahartik | simonrvn: wide-SCSI is decent 16-bit bus |
| 16:56.02 | Bor_Ed | yea, well, I'm more familiar with 8 bit buses too |
| 16:56.13 | p8r | Bor_Ed: thanks, but pc105 keymap is worse than a pc104, and the german apple keymap is very different from the german intl one. |
| 16:56.29 | simonrvn | pahartik: yeh... i should have clarified that =). i agree |
| 16:56.51 | Bor_Ed | p8r, I use pc105 finnish layout on adbII extended keyboard, works just like it should |
| 16:57.33 | simonrvn | depends *where* that 16 bits is =) |
| 16:57.45 | p8r | Bor_Ed: hm, don't know how similar finnish and german keyboards are, but this is on a TiBook (with @ on Alt+L and the like) |
| 16:59.48 | Bor_Ed | I have @ at altgr+2 |
| 16:59.56 | simonrvn | ugh, i'm at a point on this x86 where i would have been 5 minutes ago on one of the ppcs here... ./configure stage |
| 17:00.08 | Bor_Ed | also y and z swap places on .de->.fi layout |
| 17:01.07 | simonrvn | NetBSD 2.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Wed Mar 23 08:53:42 UTC 2005 |
| 17:02.26 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, geebus :/ |
| 17:02.40 | simonrvn | wanted to try a bsd out |
| 17:02.55 | simonrvn | should've done it on a faster host maybe... |
| 17:03.10 | p8r | Bor_Ed: sad, then de and fi are quite different but thanks for the help, i should ask some german people here! |
| 17:03.24 | p8r | german keymap anyone? :-) |
| 17:03.31 | Bor_Ed | yea, sorry I couldn't help more than the tip |
| 17:03.35 | simonrvn | cpu0: Cyrix 6x86MX (686-class), 208.28 MHz, id 0x601 |
| 17:03.48 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn :P |
| 17:03.56 | simonrvn | slow POS if you ask me |
| 17:03.57 | Bor_Ed | 686 class cpu that has 486 core :P |
| 17:04.05 | simonrvn | yeh... |
| 17:10.47 | furrywolf_ | simonrvn: so, what did you decide for me last night? :P |
| 17:11.03 | simonrvn | big fat no |
| 17:11.27 | furrywolf_ | you think I shouldn't write a resume and apply for the satellite job? :P |
| 17:12.14 | simonrvn | from one job you hate to another of the same type? no |
| 17:13.20 | furrywolf_ | I wouldn't hate the job under better working conditions... this one claims to pay everything and have medical/dental/etc benefits |
| 17:13.58 | simonrvn | well, do you know for a fact they'll treat you better? if so, go for it |
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| 17:18.46 | furrywolf_ | but that means I'd have to write a resume. that's a lot of work. :) |
| 17:19.34 | furrywolf_ | and I can't list half my jobs on one... some of the work I've done would only be appropriate background for a sex toy salesman. :P |
| 17:20.39 | simonrvn | hehe, so =) |
| 17:21.45 | furrywolf_ | woot! capacitor plague is no longer limited to x86! imac G5s have insta-explode capacitors. :P |
| 17:21.57 | furrywolf_ | http://www.pbase.com/flgator/image/42397666 <== example |
| 17:22.08 | simonrvn | oh fun. that's what you get if you use cheap parts.... |
| 17:23.03 | furrywolf_ | more business for me... I don't mind doing re-caps if people pay me enough. :) |
| 17:23.19 | furrywolf_ | http://g5support.com/group/viewtopic.php?t=4124 |
| 17:24.13 | furrywolf_ | the really sad thing is HN(M) sounds like a nichicon part number... nichicon used to be a reputable capacitor brand. |
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| 17:25.46 | furrywolf_ | I have about 200 nichicon caps in my parts box that I use for recapping... |
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| 17:29.02 | simonrvn | 1.04 MB/s 00:36 ETA |
| 17:29.05 | simonrvn | w00t |
| 17:29.19 | simonrvn | LAN though, not net :/ |
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| 17:39.17 | simonrvn | http://static.thepiratebay.org/apple_response.txt |
| 17:41.06 | Bor_Ed | hmm, pasted it a while back on another network... fun stuff from the guys though :D |
| 17:42.50 | simonrvn | funny. point needs to made about those stupid disclaimers on the bottom of emails. they're useless. afaik, they're illegal in some parts of the world too. shouldn't even be using that thing (or similar) |
| 17:43.05 | simonrvn | If you have received this |
| 17:43.05 | simonrvn | > transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply |
| 17:43.05 | simonrvn | > e-mail and then delete this message. |
| 17:43.11 | simonrvn | that thing |
| 17:43.22 | Bor_Ed | we've got those inside the company mails... notes over M$ |
| 17:43.27 | simonrvn | they can't require you to delete it |
| 17:43.48 | Bor_Ed | that's the same message even :o |
| 17:43.58 | simonrvn | it's in your possession. yes, it's their authorship, but they can't force you to 'd' it |
| 17:44.22 | simonrvn | (using the mutt shortcut there =) |
| 17:54.57 | Bor_Ed | whole company runs over M$... and I'm just a worker, no access to any of the comp stuff |
| 17:55.22 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 18:01.13 | furrywolf_ | bor_ed: it's M$. how come some script kiddie in russia can figure out how to access it, but you can't? :P |
| 18:01.38 | Bor_Ed | furrywolf_, I don't have interest to access the stuff I have id to :P |
| 18:02.08 | Bor_Ed | by illegal means that is... |
| 18:02.16 | furrywolf_ | heh |
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| 18:33.23 | demon | http://www.linuxpspvideo.org/ |
| 18:33.41 | demon | in case any of you guys want to encode video for a PSP :) |
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| 18:45.04 | congrio | hi, i need to poweroff a mac mini pressing poweroff button, there is any way to do it ? |
| 18:46.27 | simonrvn | uh, you mean "shutdown -h now"? explain what you want if not that |
| 18:47.02 | congrio | yes, shutdown, put this mac mini is a mini server and it hasnt keyboard |
| 18:47.23 | simonrvn | so ssh in and do it |
| 18:47.39 | congrio | there is no ssh |
| 18:47.45 | congrio | :( |
| 18:48.00 | simonrvn | not my problem =;) |
| 18:48.09 | congrio | i know.... |
| 18:48.40 | simonrvn | got a usb kbd you can connect to it? |
| 18:49.29 | congrio | no, this machine is for an radio system, and his owner doesnt know anything of computer |
| 18:49.49 | congrio | i think there is any way to poweroff mac mini pressing poweroff button |
| 18:50.01 | congrio | like a normal ACPI pc with linux |
| 18:50.03 | simonrvn | sure, but you'll be forcing an fsck on reboot |
| 18:50.18 | simonrvn | no, there is no acpi on those |
| 18:51.41 | congrio | mmm ok |
| 18:52.32 | congrio | thx simonrvn |
| 18:56.35 | furrywolf_ | dammit. need to mow the lawn. I always have a runny nose and can't breathe for a week when I do that. :( |
| 18:57.12 | simonrvn | i can't mow a lawn either. same allergic reaction |
| 18:57.42 | furrywolf_ | but if I let it start sprouting/blooming/whatever the heck grass does, that's even worse. |
| 18:59.32 | simonrvn | blooming. yeh, i know |
| 18:59.48 | simonrvn | though you could grow "weeds" ;) |
| 19:04.11 | furrywolf_ | heh |
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| 19:06.59 | a_monkey | should i use the "radeon" or "ati" driver with xfree86? |
| 19:10.04 | furrywolf_ | a_monkey: you might give a bit more information. like, for example, what video card you have. |
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| 19:32.35 | a_monkey | furrywolf_: oh. radeon 9200 |
| 19:33.05 | dj-death | both works |
| 19:33.06 | dj-death | -s |
| 19:33.34 | dj-death | I'm using ati driver which works better under tuxracer ;) |
| 19:34.32 | a_monkey | also, what is "fb" |
| 19:34.33 | a_monkey | ? |
| 19:34.44 | a_monkey | i know it has to do with hardware acceleration |
| 19:35.29 | dj-death | frame buffer |
| 19:35.55 | a_monkey | hrm |
| 19:35.58 | a_monkey | how is it used? |
| 19:36.08 | a_monkey | and what does it do? |
| 19:36.52 | dj-death | instead of using the video card directly, xorg/xfree will use kernel frame buffer to work with video card |
| 19:37.36 | a_monkey | where is it used? certain vid card drivers? |
| 19:37.46 | dj-death | yes |
| 19:37.51 | a_monkey | hmm |
| 19:38.08 | a_monkey | does radeon or ati use this? |
| 19:38.37 | dj-death | yes |
| 19:38.42 | dj-death | Option "UseFBDev" "true" |
| 19:38.47 | dj-death | with this option |
| 19:39.48 | a_monkey | can this be used to achieve higher framerates? |
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| 19:45.34 | a_monkey | i'm gonna go mess around with that option |
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| 20:55.46 | Tech^salvager | Hello |
| 20:55.50 | Tech^salvager | anyone around? |
| 21:02.51 | Curalton | just ask, maybe someone knows |
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