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| 01:19.33 | hackbard_ | hi |
| 01:21.57 | hackbard_ | try to netboot an ibm rs6k 7043 140 - 760 ppc. it tries to get the tftpboot image (that 764k boot.bin file). it fails with F77 = rsync to sp (recovery image). any idea what i am doing wrong? |
| 01:24.06 | hackbard_ | i am using the prep woody image |
| 01:26.16 | hackbard_ | firmware = tig02316.img (i also get the 20D00100 error) |
| 01:48.52 | hackbard_ | ah, i need to upgrade firmware to have ARP requests responded ... |
| 01:49.08 | hackbard_ | at least i hope - trying |
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| 08:20.05 | trentbuck | Hi. Using the mplayer package from honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de, mplayer gives the error "mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: undefined symbol: a52_resample". Which package am I missing? |
| 08:20.05 | trentbuck | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:11.43 | pahartik | all right now, after MacOS X 10.tiger is installed on iBook G4, how do i boot back to Debian GNU/Linux? |
| 09:13.00 | one_2_one | alt ? |
| 09:14.05 | one_2_one | click on alt and the turn on the mac |
| 09:17.47 | pahartik | one_2_one: that shows some menu but Linux will not get booted |
| 09:18.19 | one_2_one | that shows startup system |
| 09:18.37 | one_2_one | ro choose |
| 09:18.43 | one_2_one | will not get booted |
| 09:18.45 | one_2_one | uhm |
| 09:18.48 | one_2_one | why ? |
| 09:21.05 | pahartik | one_2_one: if i hold "Option" key, it gives me choice of MacOS X and GNU/Linux... if i choose Linux i get textual "yaboot menu"... when i choose "GNU/Linux" from that, it takes me back to graphical menu |
| 09:21.24 | trentbuck | pahartik: grab your Debian install disk, and boot it. |
| 09:21.25 | one_2_one | :( |
| 09:21.36 | trentbuck | switch to a console with Alt-F2 |
| 09:21.43 | one_2_one | i installed 10.4 and it boots fine |
| 09:21.46 | one_2_one | :P |
| 09:21.49 | trentbuck | Hit ENTER to get a cmd line |
| 09:22.21 | trentbuck | Mount the root partition e.g. "mount /dev/hda3 /mnt" |
| 09:22.49 | trentbuck | Install the yaboot config "ybin -v -C /mnt/etc/yaboot.conf" |
| 09:28.11 | pahartik | one_2_one: did you install it over older version of MacOS X? |
| 09:28.21 | one_2_one | no |
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| 09:42.35 | two-face | Hi. |
| 10:21.07 | pahartik | trentbuck: starting "yaboot" from sarge install CD and then loading kernel image from existing system seems to help |
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| 10:57.41 | two-face | anyone with a iMac? |
| 10:59.43 | simonrvn | many people. |
| 10:59.48 | simonrvn | @anyone use |
| 10:59.48 | ravenbird | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 11:00.12 | two-face | just want to know if it is good hardware |
| 11:00.38 | simonrvn | many people like it. installs easy |
| 11:01.02 | two-face | no important hw failure? |
| 11:01.26 | simonrvn | as long as the h/w is ok ;) |
| 11:01.33 | simonrvn | just like any other box |
| 11:01.38 | two-face | heh |
| 11:01.54 | simonrvn | for x config, you'll want to visit www.dotfiles.com |
| 11:02.11 | two-face | thx |
| 11:02.12 | Stereo | if you're getting an imac, get one next week |
| 11:02.18 | Stereo | new models coming out |
| 11:02.28 | simonrvn | once you've finished with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, mv that file aside, then cp the one you got from that site into place |
| 11:02.45 | simonrvn | oh, new or old imac? :) |
| 11:02.55 | Stereo | and come hang out here afterwards, we have nice long discussions :) |
| 11:03.00 | two-face | Stereo, yes, I'd like to know what the next models will be |
| 11:03.08 | two-face | Stereo, read a bit on macrumors |
| 11:03.15 | two-face | simonrvn, new |
| 11:03.34 | Stereo | increased performance, nothing too exciting |
| 11:03.40 | simonrvn | the video might be a bit tricky if it's a driver lacking the proper support for accel |
| 11:04.05 | simonrvn | but i think Stereo can answer that better than me |
| 11:04.14 | Stereo | me? :) |
| 11:04.37 | simonrvn | you seem to know about this than i do, why not? :) |
| 11:04.42 | simonrvn | know more* |
| 11:04.56 | Stereo | oh, I know about the hardware |
| 11:05.08 | Stereo | I don't know shit about graphic drivers |
| 11:05.12 | Stereo | I'm a zsh man |
| 11:05.21 | simonrvn | hah, ok :) |
| 11:05.25 | simonrvn | zsh++ |
| 11:05.40 | simonrvn | best shell ever, imo |
| 11:05.42 | two-face | you mean 3D accel? |
| 11:05.51 | Stereo | 1099 .zshrc |
| 11:05.56 | Stereo | ^-- wc -l |
| 11:06.01 | simonrvn | yeh. though i could be wrong... depends what the h/w is |
| 11:06.11 | two-face | it is well know |
| 11:06.18 | two-face | this is why MOL is there :) |
| 11:06.28 | simonrvn | 435 here |
| 11:06.29 | Stereo | you can always dual boot between os x and debian |
| 11:06.37 | Stereo | simonrvn: amateur |
| 11:06.47 | simonrvn | yes, i am ;p |
| 11:07.21 | two-face | macosx looks nice |
| 11:07.26 | Stereo | I bet you don't even use the super fancy 3D globbing completion colour completion option, simonrvn |
| 11:07.50 | simonrvn | there is no 3d completion ;p |
| 11:08.54 | simonrvn | brb |
| 11:10.27 | simonrvn | been up all night working on my bike and working on putting together a "new" (x86...) box |
| 11:10.49 | simonrvn | still need to get some food before sleep :/ |
| 11:20.16 | Stereo | launchd seems quite nice |
| 11:20.47 | simonrvn | launchd? |
| 11:20.55 | two-face | in Tiger |
| 11:20.59 | simonrvn | oh |
| 11:21.54 | Stereo | a daemon that launches |
| 11:22.16 | Stereo | processes don't have to worry about restarting if they crash, forking, checking whether they're dead, etc. |
| 11:23.32 | simonrvn | oh, a little like what daemon does. monitors procs, and re-launches them if they crash or whatever |
| 11:26.17 | pahartik | Stereo: idea is certainly interesting... |
| 11:27.11 | simonrvn | yeh, quite useful. nice to see os x "growing up" so to speak |
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| 11:27.36 | Stereo | plus they're releasing it under a free licence |
| 11:28.25 | simonrvn | as in libre? |
| 11:28.42 | simonrvn | not that pseudo-free apsl? |
| 11:29.16 | pahartik | Stereo: oh, it will be available on free operating systems soon enough... nice to see that they invent new stuff to Unix side too |
| 11:30.47 | Stereo | simonrvn: I thought the apsl 2 fixed that |
| 11:31.32 | simonrvn | oh, dunno about that |
| 11:31.40 | simonrvn | haven't read that one |
| 11:36.35 | julian37 | hi, did anyone have luck getting the new powerbook's wlan to work? |
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| 11:38.27 | Stereo | julian37: no |
| 11:39.37 | julian37 | Stereo: thanks :( |
| 11:40.09 | Stereo | people are working on it though |
| 11:41.28 | julian37 | that's good news... what about the trackpad, do I have to use Johannes Berg's driver hack? |
| 11:44.08 | Stereo | not sure, but if you stick around someone else might answer that |
| 11:44.32 | Stereo | the drivers are open sourced in darwin, I'd be surprised if they weren't supported |
| 11:44.43 | Stereo | you can even get great open sourcec trackpad drivers for os x |
| 11:46.30 | julian37 | thanks Stereo |
| 11:49.17 | simonrvn | Stereo: see? i told you ;) |
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| 12:04.58 | Stereo | I just know because my router has the same 802.11 card :) |
| 12:05.28 | two-face | what wifi card do you have on mac ? |
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| 12:28.04 | Stereo | same |
| 12:28.05 | Stereo | but I run os x on it |
| 12:30.05 | two-face | do you run debian? |
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| 12:47.08 | Stereo | no, I hang out in #debianppc for the good long philosophical debates we have |
| 12:47.16 | Stereo | the other day we discussed the existance of god |
| 12:48.08 | Stereo | I said, how can I believe in god when only last week I got my tongue caught in the slot of the dvd drive of an old iMac? |
| 12:48.11 | two-face | But there's no point debating this, the answer is well-known |
| 12:48.40 | Stereo | we came to the conclusion that if there is a god, he better have a good excuse for this and for dselect |
| 12:50.21 | two-face | i doesn't answer my question |
| 12:50.24 | two-face | it |
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| 13:07.00 | Stereo | about what wifi card I use? |
| 13:07.37 | two-face | i was doubting imacs wifi card work with debian |
| 13:08.29 | Stereo | old airport cards work, airport extreme cards don't |
| 13:09.22 | two-face | has anyone attempted to write a dnis-wrapper like for ppc? |
| 13:10.09 | Stereo | no,they're working on a re-implementation of the driver |
| 13:10.29 | two-face | I guess they reverse engine the driver, right? |
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| 13:13.52 | Stereo | yeah |
| 13:14.53 | two-face | do you have any url of such a project? |
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| 13:21.45 | two-face | g3 is slow :p |
| 13:24.06 | one_2_one | :| |
| 13:24.12 | one_2_one | i have g3 |
| 13:24.13 | one_2_one | :( |
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| 13:41.20 | simonrvn | g3 isn't slow |
| 13:46.13 | piem | i just reported a bug on mouseemu, and reassigned the one i reported on pbbuttonsd |
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| 16:16.19 | ioops | hi |
| 16:18.01 | simonrvn | hi |
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| 21:16.00 | Frafra | hi all |
| 21:16.09 | Frafra | i must convert a dmg into a iso file |
| 21:16.15 | Frafra | is very important |
| 21:16.19 | Frafra | who can help me? |
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| 21:53.38 | joshua_ | so I'm not allowed to enable preemptible kernel on ppc, huh? |
| 22:07.08 | Curalton | Frafra: http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/ possibly, not tested though |
| 22:07.20 | Curalton | err, gone already.. *sigh* |
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| 22:48.44 | a_monkey | can somebody please recommend their favorite flash mozilla plugin clone? |
| 22:48.58 | a_monkey | us PPC users can't have the real deal... |
| 22:49.42 | Curalton | bug macromedia |
| 22:49.54 | Curalton | or better the site using superfluous flash |
| 22:52.24 | a_monkey | "or better the site using superfluous flash"? |
| 22:52.29 | a_monkey | what does that mean? |
| 22:53.30 | Curalton | err, missing word :) |
| 22:53.38 | Curalton | or better mail the site using superfluous flash |
| 22:53.48 | Curalton | mail them to learn their website design 101 |
| 22:55.15 | a_monkey | what's superfluous flash? |
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| 22:55.30 | Curalton | menu points for example |
| 22:55.39 | Curalton | or just banners where its totally unneeded |
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| 22:56.50 | a_monkey | why would i want to mail them with that, though? |
| 22:57.07 | Curalton | well, it wont fix your problem short term |
| 22:57.19 | Curalton | n/m :) |
| 22:57.45 | a_monkey | are there any good open source flash plugin clones, though? |
| 22:57.51 | a_monkey | the ones i've tried don't work at all... |
| 22:57.55 | Curalton | no |
| 22:58.07 | a_monkey | :( |
| 22:58.37 | Curalton | bug macromedia to release a ppc binary .so |
| 22:58.44 | a_monkey | i've already done that |
| 22:58.50 | a_monkey | they don't seem to want to |
| 22:58.55 | a_monkey | i don't know why, either. |
| 23:00.53 | Curalton | badly coded, x86 centric id guess |
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