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| 02:13.42 | assassin | Sarge was frozen! :) |
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| 06:20.08 | techrolla | I was wondering if there was a way to change the sound of the mac boot chime thingy in OF or linux? |
| 06:51.38 | techrolla | I mean the volume |
| 06:52.35 | beth | that's probably an OF thing, but I don't know offhand whether it's possible or how to do it |
| 06:52.39 | beth | I imagine it would be |
| 06:53.31 | techrolla | Because I know you can change it from a mac os\ |
| 06:55.01 | techrolla | thanks though, I will let the question linger... |
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| 10:22.17 | Bor_Ed | hrm... tdfx driver on deb/i386 doesn't have direct rendering :o |
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| 11:22.04 | ioops | hi |
| 11:25.56 | simonrvn | brb |
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| 13:46.28 | noah | Does anyone know how to get sound working on a G5? I have installed ALSA but when I "modprobe snd-powermac" I get a "Error inserting snd_powermac" error? |
| 13:47.20 | Bor_Ed | g5 has some weird snd chip afaik with no support yet on linux or *bsd |
| 13:47.36 | noah | Non what so ever? *eek* |
| 13:48.05 | Bor_Ed | usb audio thingies work as well as peecee pci audio cards |
| 13:48.17 | Bor_Ed | sb128 is couple of euros |
| 13:48.45 | noah | Does anyone know when built in sound suport can be expected? |
| 13:48.57 | noah | Also, whats a 'usb audio' thingy? |
| 13:48.58 | Bor_Ed | haven't checked the status lately |
| 13:49.05 | Bor_Ed | usb audio 'hubs' |
| 13:49.24 | noah | Heh... I'm still lost. :) |
| 13:49.49 | Bor_Ed | hmm, lessee if I can find one |
| 13:50.04 | Petro | Do PC pci devices work on macs running linux? (ie Wi-Fi cards) |
| 13:50.25 | Bor_Ed | I haven't had probs with peecee telly cards, nics or sound cards here |
| 13:50.33 | Bor_Ed | I'd guess wifi cards work just like those |
| 13:50.52 | Bor_Ed | pahartik, get some 10k eur synth :D |
| 13:51.00 | Petro | So the OpenFirmware thing doesn't matter? But what about AGP cards? |
| 13:51.20 | Bor_Ed | OF only matters on gfx cards and cards you want to use on mockos |
| 13:51.35 | Petro | ok |
| 13:51.37 | noah | I could have sworn that I have seen reports of G5's and Debian (or Ubuntu) working with sound.. ?? |
| 13:51.41 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: they start from about 150 EUR |
| 13:51.53 | Bor_Ed | pahartik, yea but real synths :) |
| 13:52.05 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: but i want one with balanced audio input and output |
| 13:52.09 | Bor_Ed | noah, could be that it's been hacked to work... www.penguinppc.org might have some info |
| 13:52.26 | Petro | How can I get rw on an NFS export? |
| 13:52.47 | Petro | I'm using webmin btw |
| 13:52.53 | noah | Very odd that sound is still not supported given the relative maturity of the G5 machines |
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| 13:53.58 | pahartik | Petro: by defining export to be "rw" instead of "ro" in "/etc/exports" |
| 13:54.36 | ds9 | hi. Is NPTL available now on PPC ? |
| 13:54.51 | Petro | Ok, I tried doing that but MacOS X was giving me problems on the other end, I guess I'll just use SMB, are there any performance differences? |
| 13:55.20 | pahartik | Petro: i have done it both ways |
| 13:55.39 | noah | Bor_Ed: Why do I get the following error - "FATAL: Error inserting snd_powermac (/lib/modules/2.6.11-power4-smp/kernel/sound/ppc/snd-powermac.ko): No such device" |
| 13:57.04 | Bor_Ed | noah, it doesn't find such device... the driver is probably some other than snd-powermac |
| 13:57.36 | noah | Bor_Ed: But the file exists?? |
| 13:58.05 | Bor_Ed | noah, it's prebuilt kernel so it has unnecessary drivers included |
| 13:59.04 | noah | Bor_Ed: I'm not very good with this type of thing - but what do you meen? I know the kernel is prebuilt - but why should that stop me properly loading another module? |
| 14:00.14 | Bor_Ed | you can try the correct module instead of snd-powermac |
| 14:00.28 | Bor_Ed | google a bit, I bet there's some results for the prob |
| 14:01.00 | noah | What *is* the correct module? This is the module that ALSA tries to load, but ALSA gets the same error message |
| 14:02.12 | Bor_Ed | no idea... send me a g5 and I'll check :D |
| 14:05.50 | noah | :) |
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| 14:06.52 | dacoto | kernel upgrade and sound question? |
| 14:07.02 | dacoto | ok, I did /bin/lspci looking for some kind of info on sound device to find right driver support, but I dont see any sound type info listed, am i looking in the wrong place? |
| 14:07.33 | dacoto | its a g3 b&w |
| 14:07.45 | Bor_Ed | snd-powermac or dmasound_pmac depending if you're using alsa or oss |
| 14:07.54 | ds9 | so nobody knows for NPTL status for the forthcoming Debian release ? |
| 14:08.44 | Bor_Ed | nptl would be ? |
| 14:09.44 | ds9 | New Posix Thread Library. Replacement of linuxthreads |
| 14:10.12 | ds9 | I need to test/stress mail applications (Milter ones, hence the need of NPTL) |
| 14:10.29 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I bet mailing list has better knowledge about that |
| 14:11.05 | ds9 | Thks ... Will try to find a clear answer (it was confusing at first glance) |
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| 14:58.48 | simonrvn | hi |
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| 15:32.08 | techrolla | Anyone know how to change the volume of a B&W G3 boot chime? |
| 15:32.25 | Bor_Ed | setup speaker setting on aumix and save |
| 15:32.37 | simonrvn | try nvsetvol too |
| 15:32.45 | Bor_Ed | that too :) |
| 15:35.01 | dacoto | I am trying to build 2.6.11 kernel... |
| 15:35.13 | dacoto | make-kpkg --append-to=dacoto.2 --initrd kernel_image |
| 15:35.16 | dacoto | when i run that |
| 15:35.23 | dacoto | i get this |
| 15:35.26 | dacoto | drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x78dec): In function `init_hwif_amd74xx': |
| 15:35.26 | dacoto | : undefined reference to `pci_get_legacy_ide_irq' |
| 15:35.26 | dacoto | make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 |
| 15:35.26 | dacoto | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.11' |
| 15:35.26 | dacoto | make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 |
| 15:36.51 | dacoto | should I run make menuconfig again and try to find a module related to pci ide legacy and remove it? |
| 15:37.18 | demon | yeah, disable the 'amd74xx' driver |
| 15:37.37 | demon | I don't think you're gonna have a ppc system with one of those in it |
| 15:38.28 | Bor_Ed | I've built several 2.6.11 kernels, current is .8 and they've always compiled just fine |
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| 15:47.42 | techrolla | Bor_ed, simonrvn thanks I will try that.\ |
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| 15:48.17 | Mias | hi |
| 15:49.18 | Mias | which and where is the most recent cd bootable live system for ppc? |
| 15:49.39 | techrolla | anyone else have trouble with pcilynx for firewire support on mac?\ |
| 15:50.23 | Mias | all I find is http://debian.tu-bs.de/knoppix/powerPC/knx-pcc-2003-07-13_4.iso |
| 15:52.03 | Mestapheles | hi |
| 15:52.06 | demon | techrolla: the driver is super broken |
| 15:52.23 | demon | my G3 doesn't play nice with it at all |
| 15:52.31 | techrolla | alight |
| 15:52.39 | demon | I have a feeling whoever wrote it put a bunch of little-endian-isms in it |
| 15:52.45 | techrolla | well I guess i can live without it...but have you gotten anything to work? |
| 15:52.55 | techrolla | firewire, I mean |
| 15:53.21 | demon | it half works with my firewire drive, but then it starts choking and dying |
| 15:53.53 | techrolla | hmm |
| 15:53.57 | demon | if you're feeling brave, you might dig around in the driver code and see if you can unbreak it |
| 15:55.08 | techrolla | :) |
| 15:55.31 | techrolla | I am feeling brave |
| 15:56.06 | Mestapheles | if its a live cd you're looking for check ubuntu and or/rock linux |
| 15:56.36 | Mestapheles | I just tan fsck for the first time, fsck report clean on 2nd time I ran it. I didn't mount anything so can I just pass reboot with umounting anything? |
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| 16:14.12 | dacoto | I am new to debianppc but not debian so this might just be a dumb question, does the ppc distro still use grub? |
| 16:15.09 | demon | no |
| 16:15.58 | dacoto | doh, i knew that yaboot right |
| 16:16.14 | demon | yaboot is used for newworld PPCs and some IBMs and others, quik for most oldworld systems (or you can use BootX or something), and there are a couple others for certain other PPC systems |
| 16:17.08 | dacoto | is there a command to update yaboot after installing a new kernel or it is done automagically? |
| 16:18.05 | dacoto | well now I am back to make-kpkg errors again |
| 16:18.17 | dacoto | (*$&#*(@# |
| 16:18.55 | dacoto | I think I might just have to start with a fresh install, I keep having many many problems |
| 16:19.43 | dacoto | any source i get, I have to download rm then download again before i can get a successful unzip |
| 16:20.11 | dacoto | all the way to make-kpkg errors and sound issues in the current kernel setup |
| 16:20.47 | dacoto | time to start again, but i have gained some good info for it from the attempts so far |
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| 16:26.49 | Mestapheles | there's Miboot too |
| 16:34.17 | Mestapheles | does anyone know if it is necessary to avoid writing cache after fscking when rebooting? |
| 16:35.17 | simonrvn | "writing cache"? you mean syncing the disk? |
| 16:35.49 | Mestapheles | yes |
| 16:36.06 | simonrvn | it will anyway |
| 16:36.25 | Mestapheles | k no need to 'reboot -n' |
| 16:37.32 | Mestapheles | just reboot, tell me can I just exit out of single user mode to continue to boot up to regular user mode? |
| 16:37.50 | Mestapheles | say 'exit'? I should see if there is a man |
| 16:38.40 | simonrvn | reboot or shutdown -r now should work |
| 16:39.48 | Mestapheles | Let me just jump back the reason I ask about syncing the disk is that on some unix systems it was necessary to pass reboot -n meaning not to sync for some reason. But I take it this is not a concern. |
| 16:40.14 | Mestapheles | thanks simonvn, you're always helpful |
| 16:41.36 | simonrvn | nah, it's good that it syncs, since you might have a journalling fs there, the metadata will get written to disk. also - in the old days i hear - before a reboot in linux, you had to do sync;sync;sync; then reboot |
| 16:41.38 | simonrvn | np |
| 16:43.00 | simonrvn | disconn.'ing monitor |
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| 18:21.34 | simonrvn | back. (been a while) |
| 18:22.28 | pahartik | simonrvn: 98 minutes |
| 18:22.51 | simonrvn | picky daughtercard, then did a bunch of stuff |
| 18:23.33 | simonrvn | trying to figure out why gssapi auth isn't finding my home dir on the remote box... |
| 18:24.13 | simonrvn | then i switch to pure ldap, and still can't find it. i'm thinking it might be the acls. was working for 3 months ;p |
| 18:24.46 | simonrvn | *sigh* |
| 18:25.15 | simonrvn | no, it finds it: |
| 18:25.30 | simonrvn | SRCH attr=uid userPassword uidNumber gidNumber cn homeDirectory loginShell gecos description objectClass |
| 18:25.36 | simonrvn | SEARCH RESULT tag=101 err=0 nentries=1 text= |
| 18:25.44 | simonrvn | nentries=1 |
| 18:35.51 | mooch | anyone on why mplayer breaks with AC3 sound on powerbook? |
| 18:36.25 | mooch | it segfaults |
| 18:36.56 | mooch | oh! and BTW, my FN key does not work with a new model of powerbooks... |
| 18:37.26 | pahartik | mooch: even if you define "srate=44100" on "/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf"? |
| 18:38.23 | mooch | trying... |
| 18:39.58 | mooch | even if i put srate=44100 |
| 18:41.19 | pahartik | mooch: damn that... did you build it yourself? |
| 18:41.23 | mooch | no |
| 18:41.30 | mooch | i used the one from guido, i believe |
| 18:41.34 | mooch | pre6something |
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| 18:46.55 | pahartik | mooch: what if you try "http://zazu.vip.fi/~pahartik/mplayer_1.0cvs_powerpc.deb"? |
| 18:49.01 | mooch | unable to connect to remote host |
| 18:49.18 | mooch | vip? |
| 18:49.21 | mooch | missa se on? |
| 18:49.57 | mooch | pahartik: serveri ei toimi... |
| 18:51.18 | pahartik | mooch: i see no problems with it |
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| 18:52.20 | mooch | i kicks me out... |
| 18:52.40 | mooch | ups |
| 18:54.35 | mooch | proxy settings... ;) |
| 18:55.46 | mooch | downloading |
| 18:58.38 | pahartik | mooch: it is "MPlayer 1.0pre7-3.3.5", built for and in use on my iBook G4 |
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| 19:08.27 | Bor_Ed | MPlayer dev-CVS--3.3.5 (C) 2000-2005 MPlayer Team is available on apt too |
| 19:08.48 | Bor_Ed | deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/ |
| 19:15.06 | pahartik | mooch: did it work? |
| 19:26.39 | pahartik | mooch: i just tried with "AC3: 5.1 (3f+2r+lfe) 48000 Hz 448.0 kbit/s" content on DVD... no problems here |
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| 20:01.47 | mooch | pahartik: not it works |
| 20:02.02 | mooch | pahartik: any hints on the problem with the image getting green? |
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| 20:12.10 | mooch | does anyone have the problem of some files turning green after some seconds of being played? |
| 20:12.30 | johill | yeah, I've seen that with totem-gstreamer |
| 20:12.36 | johill | not with totem-xine though |
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| 20:12.57 | mooch | it happens with mplayer |
| 20:13.18 | johill | oh. |
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| 20:17.43 | mooch | once i got a hint to solve the problem, but i did not happen to write it down... :( |
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| 22:25.10 | Sphinx | why is DEbian so sloooowwwwww grrr |
| 22:25.27 | newmanbe | Your computer's too slow? |
| 22:25.54 | Sphinx | i have a g4 |
| 22:26.03 | newmanbe | PowerPC 7450 |
| 22:26.12 | newmanbe | What are you trying to do? |
| 22:27.24 | Sphinx | well..... web-browsing is slow...can't play moviez synchroom...windows(directory's takes a few seconds before open uo etc etc.. |
| 22:27.36 | newmanbe | Ah, X11. |
| 22:28.18 | Sphinx | ?! |
| 22:28.30 | dj-death | g4 ? |
| 22:28.38 | dj-death | what frequency ? |
| 22:28.41 | Sphinx | yes pegasos 2 |
| 22:28.42 | newmanbe | G4 is PowerPC 7450. |
| 22:29.05 | jrr | my biggest challenge when linuxing my g4 was picking the correct architecture =] |
| 22:29.23 | dj-death | heh |
| 22:29.33 | Sphinx | must i sell this Pegasos and buy a intel machine and then run Linux on it ?? |
| 22:29.37 | jrr | der i mean g3. i guess i had a subconscious upgrade |
| 22:29.52 | dj-death | well I'm running linux on my ibook g4 it's quite faster than macosx |
| 22:30.20 | jrr | linux is much faster than osx on my g3 300 =] |
| 22:30.31 | jrr | assuming a light WM.. i use xfce4 |
| 22:30.34 | Sphinx | but the examples i give which things goes slow can that be solved ? |
| 22:30.39 | dj-death | there is no better laptop to run linux |
| 22:30.50 | dj-death | everything work fine ;) |
| 22:31.07 | Sphinx | great for you :) |
| 22:31.13 | Sphinx | but now here... |
| 22:32.05 | dj-death | what process are running on yours ? |
| 22:32.14 | dj-death | kernel ? |
| 22:32.15 | dj-death | etc .. |
| 22:32.56 | Sphinx | 2.6.8-powerpc testing.. |
| 22:34.24 | Sphinx | what do you want ot know more ? |
| 22:35.36 | dj-death | what apps are running slowly ? |
| 22:36.34 | newmanbe | It reminds me of installing System 7. |
| 22:36.47 | newmanbe | Which is somewhat fun. |
| 22:36.52 | Sphinx | xine (every movieplayer), even windows (directory's) opens up slow, mozzilla,konquer bassicly everything :) |
| 22:37.49 | newmanbe | Silly #debian blocks Tor users. |
| 22:39.33 | dj-death | Sphinx: well mozilla has always been slow |
| 22:39.38 | dj-death | even firefox |
| 22:40.18 | dj-death | xine is slower than on my x86 here |
| 22:40.36 | dj-death | but my x86 was an athlon 2GHz |
| 22:40.43 | Sphinx | dj-death: hmmm firefox...not have that..hmmm |
| 22:40.45 | dj-death | ibook is only 1.2Ghz |
| 22:47.39 | Sphinx | btw...with every packege installing i get this error... |
| 22:48.02 | Sphinx | perl: warning: Setting locale failed. |
| 22:48.02 | Sphinx | perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: |
| 22:48.20 | Sphinx | LANGUAGE = "en_NL:en_US:en_GB:en", |
| 22:48.21 | Sphinx | LC_ALL = "en_US", |
| 22:48.21 | Sphinx | LC_MESSAGES = "nl_NL.UTF-8@euro", |
| 22:48.21 | Sphinx | LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" |
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| 22:52.47 | Sphinx | is it possible to get the bookmarks of konquer to mozzilla firefox ?? |
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