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| 08:02.39 | niksie | Hey |
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| 08:47.54 | simonrvn | hi |
| 09:16.02 | pahartik | hello simonrvn |
| 09:16.15 | simonrvn | pahartik: doing well this morning? |
| 09:16.45 | pahartik | simonrvn: i used to think so |
| 09:17.05 | simonrvn | what happened? you ok? |
| 09:17.38 | pahartik | simonrvn: on weekend i was at Q-FUNK's place in Helsinki |
| 09:17.51 | simonrvn | oh, ok |
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| 09:20.18 | pahartik | simonrvn: he had got accepted by another ISP and thought he got (ADSL) connected already... but he has to wait |
| 09:20.35 | simonrvn | ok |
| 09:20.45 | simonrvn | but why does he have to wait? |
| 09:21.55 | pahartik | simonrvn: it usually takes few weeks for them to connect ADSL |
| 09:23.46 | simonrvn | yeh that's true. here it's usually about 10-14 days |
| 09:24.37 | simonrvn | the ones i've dealt with anyway |
| 09:24.39 | pahartik | simonrvn: depends on ISP and location, i suppose... and if they have got some promotion campaign going on... |
| 09:24.45 | simonrvn | yeh |
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| 13:28.40 | sobersabre | hi guys |
| 13:28.57 | sobersabre | has anybody seen any problems with /dev/random on ppc64/ppc ? |
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| 13:37.16 | sobersabre | guys, i haven't seen an answer for ppc /dev/random |
| 13:37.25 | sobersabre | has anybody answered ? |
| 13:38.24 | Mias | no |
| 13:42.17 | sobersabre | i have a /dev/random ... and it is far toooo silent |
| 13:42.31 | sobersabre | interrupts are created and random is empty |
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| 13:47.03 | parax | hi |
| 13:47.53 | parax | I'm trying to boot an ibook using an external usb dvd drive, but the system seems to not recognize the device during boot up |
| 13:48.08 | parax | anyone has tested this before? |
| 13:49.23 | parax | I "googled", and it seems that USB support is flacky, and it's better to use a fireware device (but I don't have it) |
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| 14:01.34 | simonrvn | sobersabre: #mklinux |
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| 14:31.28 | sobersabre | simonrvn, thanks |
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| 15:08.15 | chucky- | hi! |
| 15:09.12 | simonrvn | hi |
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| 16:55.23 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I got qemu finally to run linux/i386 apps |
| 16:56.35 | simonrvn | heh |
| 16:56.38 | Bor_Ed | and sparc and ppc and so on :D |
| 16:56.43 | simonrvn | nice |
| 16:57.05 | Bor_Ed | buggr just needed qemu-gnemul downloaded from the qemu site, deb doesn't ship with that for some reason |
| 16:57.30 | Bor_Ed | now lessee if I can get macromedia flash and ibm/sun java up :D |
| 16:57.37 | Petro | Do you guys think that xorg will come out right after Sarge? |
| 16:57.53 | Bor_Ed | should come to sid pretty fast after 'december' release of sarge |
| 16:58.13 | Bor_Ed | the year of the 'december' is still a bit open afaik though :) |
| 16:58.28 | Petro | December? Wow okay, I thought it would be this summer. |
| 16:58.52 | Bor_Ed | naa, it was december in last spring... and summer in this one... maybe autumn next year and so on |
| 16:59.33 | Bor_Ed | it's nice to use distro which has reliable release cycle (== no release cycle :) |
| 17:00.26 | Petro | lol, at my LUG that was the on-going joke |
| 17:00.55 | Petro | "Sarge will already be archaic when it comes out..." |
| 17:00.57 | Bor_Ed | it's been a joke way too long... though sid is stable and recently up to date |
| 17:01.16 | simonrvn | more up to date than gentoo's offerings |
| 17:01.22 | Petro | Only thing missing is xorg |
| 17:01.36 | simonrvn | that will come. it's been in the works for a while |
| 17:01.37 | Petro | I heard the ati drivers were much better |
| 17:01.41 | simonrvn | they are |
| 17:02.17 | Bor_Ed | I'm pretty happy with r128 driver on xf86 |
| 17:02.19 | Petro | I don't understand how it can be so hard to package it |
| 17:02.25 | simonrvn | there's a 7 coming out soon. that'll be the modular tree; x-force is aiming to support that |
| 17:03.31 | simonrvn | the mod tree is the hard part. 6.8.x is the monolithic, xfree86 way.... that's not hard, it was waiting for sarge to go out the door. by the time sarge is out, we'll probably see it soon after |
| 17:03.59 | simonrvn | at least that's what i hear, and current estimations (with no hiccups) |
| 17:06.44 | Bor_Ed | hrm, what kind of a wrapper/script would be needed to get flash and java to run inside moz qith qemu :o |
| 17:08.22 | simonrvn | use an x86 chroot? |
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| 17:09.13 | Bor_Ed | no need for chroot, I can run x86 apps dynamically next to ppc ones |
| 17:09.43 | simonrvn | *shrug* |
| 17:10.01 | Bor_Ed | the qemu-gnemul thingy enabled that |
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| 20:19.00 | mijenks | i have just inherited a beige powermac g3, however the disk is completely wiped. i can't get the floppies to boot using the open firmware boot prompt, and the installation notes say that the floppy should just boot automagically. any suggestions? |
| 20:21.30 | simonrvn | re-do the floppies. use fresh ones, re-download the images if need be, and keep trying until it works. might need to leave space for a small (64-100 MB) mac os 7.5.x partition to boot it if it doesn't like quik |
| 20:21.42 | simonrvn | @sarge install guide |
| 20:21.42 | ravenbird | go see http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ for the install guide. http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/index.html |
| 20:24.03 | mijenks | simonrvn: problem is i don't have any mac os disks, i just have the wiped system |
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| 20:24.42 | simonrvn | yes. gettable however. 7.5 is "free" (as in beer) |
| 20:25.32 | simonrvn | i had the images, but lost the drive the mock os partition was on |
| 20:25.54 | simonrvn | (images suitable for dd or cat foo > /dev/fd0 |
| 20:25.57 | simonrvn | ) |
| 20:28.26 | mijenks | simonrvn: i've been using fdformat and then dd for the boot image, then settting 'boot-device' in open firmware to fd |
| 20:28.51 | mijenks | ravenbird: it seems like there isn't any mention of open firmware settings in the install manual, though. |
| 20:28.51 | ravenbird | You are moron #1, mijenks |
| 20:28.56 | simonrvn | you don't need to do that. just stick the floppy in and wait |
| 20:29.18 | simonrvn | from OF, you can do bye, or boot fd (if that works in 2.x.x OF) |
| 20:31.00 | mijenks | simonrvn: oh wow that worked nicely! |
| 20:31.09 | simonrvn | :) |
| 20:35.53 | mijenks | simonrvn: is it possible to have a completely debian install, with no mac os partition? |
| 20:38.27 | simonrvn | yeh. but that model of machine might not boot properly with quik. might want to see http://wiki.kisikew.org/bin/view/Know/NativeBootGee3OFTwoFour |
| 20:39.02 | simonrvn | GTG. good luck |
| 20:39.08 | mijenks | simonrvn: thx |
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| 20:48.53 | lil_cool_dude200 | hi |
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| 20:50.11 | thebug | not so cool apparently |
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| 21:06.37 | mort | 22:53 < mort> isch übrigens freenode gnannt |
| 21:06.37 | mort | 22:53 <@willigi> ja aber da verwunderet mi ja das de server nid überlouft |
| 21:06.37 | mort | 22:53 < mort> kapiere ned was du für nes prob dermit hesch :-) |
| 21:06.47 | mort | oops, sorry |
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| 22:40.43 | rleigh | Hi folks |
| 22:41.01 | rleigh | Could anyone recommend a tool for detecting the cause of stack corruption? |
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| 22:41.47 | rleigh | I've narrowed down the place where it occurs, but looking at the source doesn't show /why/. |
| 22:42.20 | rleigh | valgrind for ppc isn't any help here, and the source code looks fine and builds without error. |
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