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| 02:47.46 | Burninator | anyone know if it's possible to install on an external firewire hd? |
| 02:48.21 | kimo_sabe | Burninator: I think you can install without much trouble, but getting it to boot is trickier |
| 02:48.51 | Curalton | you can just mount the fwdisk and then run debootstrap on the dir |
| 02:48.56 | Burninator | i'm having trouble getting it to install yaboot... |
| 02:48.58 | Burninator | not sure why |
| 02:49.00 | Curalton | and yes, booting is the tricky part |
| 02:49.04 | Burninator | it fails every time |
| 02:49.16 | kimo_sabe | Burninator: yup, ofpath doesn't grok firewire drives |
| 02:49.20 | Burninator | this was with the sarge rc3 netinstall |
| 02:49.45 | kimo_sabe | Burninator: thus yaboot doesn't know how to find it's disk when you boot |
| 02:50.14 | Burninator | and thus it won't install at all? |
| 02:50.24 | kimo_sabe | Burninator: yup |
| 02:50.51 | kimo_sabe | Burninator: I have a firewire disk booting, but I did it a long time ago by hand |
| 02:51.02 | Burninator | so should i just forget about it? |
| 02:51.23 | Burninator | and install on the internal disk if i really want to install? |
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| 02:51.54 | Burninator | (which i don't want to do since i have all my data on one partition there) |
| 02:52.55 | kimo_sabe | is there a howto for walking through doing it manually out there? |
| 02:53.15 | kimo_sabe | Burninator: did you get the rest installed? |
| 02:53.26 | Burninator | yeah everything else seemed to work |
| 02:54.15 | Burninator | just stopped at that step in the installer. |
| 02:55.47 | kimo_sabe | hmm |
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| 03:01.45 | Burninator | http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2004/11/msg00056.html |
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| 05:19.03 | mijenks | i've been trying to get debian installed on a beige g3 -- i inherited the machine and have _no_ mac os discs and the hard drive is wiped clean -- open firmware can't seem to get to quik to begin the boot process, but obviously the initial boot floppy is working -- how can i edit the boot floppy to point to the installed system? |
| 05:19.22 | Stereo | ahah |
| 05:19.49 | mijenks | Stereo: pretty much, yep. |
| 05:19.56 | Stereo | I think you're screwed. I gave up on quik for my beige g3 |
| 05:20.03 | Stereo | they're a pain in the ass to boot |
| 05:20.23 | mijenks | Stereo: but they boot floppies no problem. so can't i just make a boot floppy? |
| 05:20.38 | Stereo | not really |
| 05:20.52 | Stereo | you need MacOS to put on the floppies |
| 05:21.06 | mijenks | hmmm, i've also heard that mac os 7.something can be had for free as in beer? |
| 05:21.21 | Stereo | yeah but the beige G3s came with 8.1 |
| 05:21.24 | Stereo | I think |
| 05:22.11 | mijenks | well it doesn't matter at this point because i inherited the box sans OS |
| 05:22.37 | Stereo | your best bet is probably to find a 9 torrent |
| 05:23.35 | mijenks | k, i guess i'll save that for tomorrow |
| 05:25.13 | Stereo | http://trackerwww.prq.to/torrents-details.php?id=3310354 |
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| 10:47.52 | pahartik | simonrvn: shell account server where Q-FUNK stores mail got "hacked into" during last week |
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| 14:26.15 | Bor_Ed | pahartik, sarana ? :D |
| 14:31.03 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: what? |
| 14:33.47 | Bor_Ed | q-funks mail box |
| 14:35.15 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: i do not know what that host is called... |
| 14:35.21 | Bor_Ed | ahh |
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| 15:22.52 | msinhore | hello all |
| 15:25.40 | simonrvn | 'lo |
| 15:26.10 | msinhore | I have a Mac G3 old world and I try use the bootX to boot sarge cd. I copy the vmlinux from cd to kernel directory and I set the root disk to /dev/hdc (cdrom device) but, after boot, the kernel linux return a kernel panic because the root not is correct. how to I set this correctly? |
| 15:30.59 | simonrvn | pass root=/dev/hdXX to bootx, in the text box. you sure that works? |
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| 15:33.29 | msinhore | simonrvn: return a kernel panic: VFS: Cannot open root device "hdc" or unknown-block(0,0) |
| 15:34.26 | simonrvn | 1) i don't think hdc is valid 2) i don't think that thing will boot a linux cd |
| 15:35.03 | msinhore | The informations of the kernel return a information that the cdrom is the hdc - hdc: MATSHITA CR-5585, ATAPI cd/DVD-ROM drive |
| 15:35.53 | msinhore | on the new world mac this cd is booting. |
| 15:39.13 | msinhore | exist other alternative for booting the cd on the old mac? |
| 15:39.29 | Bor_Ed | boot disks |
| 15:39.58 | Bor_Ed | oh, and you need to tell the initrd on bootx too for the install kernel |
| 15:40.39 | msinhore | ah, ok. I try now. |
| 15:41.49 | msinhore | I need uncompress the initd? |
| 15:41.56 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 15:43.14 | simonrvn | msinhore: oldworld and newworld are quite different in several ways |
| 15:43.42 | Bor_Ed | yea, newworlds have ugly coloured cases :P |
| 15:44.05 | beth | "ugly"? |
| 15:44.09 | beth | "UGLY"? |
| 15:44.26 | furrywolf_ | sadly, virtually every mac I've ever seen is fucking ugly... |
| 15:44.50 | Bor_Ed | I kinda liked the lc475 case ... it was friggin tiny |
| 15:45.01 | furrywolf_ | they'd sell a lot more of them if they didn't insist on making them so ugly you want to spraypaint them... |
| 15:45.04 | Bor_Ed | too bad I sold the buggr |
| 15:45.10 | thebug | SGI though, they had some taste :) |
| 15:45.16 | simonrvn | yah |
| 15:45.16 | Bor_Ed | furrywolf_, seen pmac 4400 case ? :) |
| 15:45.59 | simonrvn | i've seen some motorola clones look similar to it |
| 15:46.00 | beth | I'm disappointed with the new "shiny white boring" theme. Yeah, it's shiny, but so? |
| 15:46.19 | furrywolf_ | and gah! the ugly glowing apple on the back of the laptops... |
| 15:46.28 | beth | the glowing apple is the best part! |
| 15:46.37 | beth | they just need to make it so you can swap out the apple shape for something cooler |
| 15:46.38 | Bor_Ed | LOL |
| 15:46.40 | beth | like a penguin |
| 15:46.46 | simonrvn | and they work in linux too, now IIRC |
| 15:47.10 | Bor_Ed | well there are penguin keyboards and I think there might be hacks to drop penguin to back of apple lappie too |
| 15:47.21 | beth | I'm considering a cutout sticker |
| 15:47.30 | beth | dunno if it would work well |
| 15:48.40 | furrywolf_ | shouldn't be too hard to make your own inserts... question is, can you get them in without pulling the lcd out? |
| 15:48.42 | msinhore | i need copy the initrd.gz on the "Linux Kernels" directory? |
| 15:49.09 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 15:49.14 | Bor_Ed | msinhore ^ |
| 15:49.53 | simonrvn | then set a ramdisk, by selecting it in the file chooser, and set something generous like 8192 or 16384 |
| 15:50.12 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, bootx picks the size automatically |
| 15:50.15 | msinhore | Bor_Ed: on the kernel parameter, I set initrd=/initrd.gz ? |
| 15:50.19 | simonrvn | ok |
| 15:50.24 | Bor_Ed | msinhore, yup |
| 15:50.27 | Bor_Ed | umm no |
| 15:50.38 | Bor_Ed | you set the initrd on extra params iirc |
| 15:50.47 | Bor_Ed | it asks for ramdisk or initrd |
| 15:51.00 | msinhore | on the More kernel arguments? |
| 15:51.07 | Bor_Ed | I recall so |
| 15:51.44 | msinhore | ok |
| 15:52.14 | Bor_Ed | too lazy to boot to mockos and check (doing install to other box via ssh :) |
| 15:52.20 | msinhore | ok, now I'm on the install !! |
| 15:52.25 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 15:52.26 | msinhore | tanks for all |
| 15:52.35 | Bor_Ed | that you have to find out yourself :) |
| 15:57.29 | furrywolf_ | "If we are left negative feedback, negative feedback will be left for you." in big red letters on an ebay auction. remind me to never bid on anything from an asshole like that... |
| 15:57.58 | simonrvn | wtf. fucked up |
| 15:58.27 | simonrvn | furrywolf_: reminder: do not bid on anything from that asshole |
| 15:58.46 | furrywolf_ | thanks :) |
| 15:58.53 | simonrvn | hehe ;) |
| 15:59.20 | simonrvn | cleaning up my home dir i freed up 300 MB |
| 15:59.33 | Petro | nice |
| 16:00.16 | furrywolf_ | heh. I'm about to consolidate four computers into one... going to have to do "just a little" home dir sorting. |
| 16:00.52 | simonrvn | home on some network fs would so rock. i was thinking of doing AFS, but it's such a PITA to set up... |
| 16:01.08 | msinhore | exist a porting to javavm and flash player for linux/ppc? |
| 16:01.26 | furrywolf_ | only two of the four still function... going to do it the old way of just putting the HDs in and copying everything over. |
| 16:01.42 | simonrvn | msinhore: yes. whether it's worth it or not is another story ;) |
| 16:01.53 | simonrvn | yeh, sound good |
| 16:01.55 | simonrvn | s |
| 16:02.55 | furrywolf_ | pretty convinced now that with my fastest computer, I no longer need two computers on my desk... but having a hard time getting it stable. .12-rc3 works so much better than .11.8, but hangs about once every 3 days... |
| 16:03.14 | simonrvn | eh |
| 16:03.39 | furrywolf_ | and still haven't figured out why it can't read CDs or DVDs. |
| 16:03.56 | simonrvn | still? fuuuck |
| 16:04.00 | simonrvn | @comfort furrywolf_ |
| 16:04.02 | ravenbird | There, there, furrywolf_. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 16:04.13 | furrywolf_ | an @fuck furrywolf would be more fun. :P |
| 16:04.24 | simonrvn | return the stupid thing and get another kind if you can |
| 16:04.31 | simonrvn | @fuck furrywolf_ |
| 16:04.35 | furrywolf_ | I've decided it's not the drive. |
| 16:04.59 | simonrvn | oh? what is it then? |
| 16:05.10 | furrywolf_ | hrmm, I don't have any glass dildos... I ought to get one. shiny. :P |
| 16:05.31 | furrywolf_ | didn't notice that at some point my cd-rw drive stopped working too... |
| 16:05.44 | furrywolf_ | unlikely my old cd-rw drive has the exact same problem as my new dvd-rw drive. |
| 16:06.08 | simonrvn | ok. yeh. cables? controller? s/w based problem? |
| 16:06.24 | furrywolf_ | also took the drive to someone's dual-boot box... under linux with .11.7 it did the exact same thing it does on my box. under windoze is worked flawlessly, and even read the test dvds I made from linux... |
| 16:06.53 | furrywolf_ | since it does the same thing on two boxes, but works on one of those boxes from windows, and my cd-rw drive has developed the same problem, I'm guessing kernel bug. |
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| 16:07.02 | simonrvn | so it's kernel shit then it would seem. you did write to lkml about it, right? i think you did anyway... |
| 16:07.45 | furrywolf_ | yep. no one had any good suggestions. today I'm going to try putting it in that AGP-less p4 box and seeing if it's a chipset issue. (as both this box and the other person's dual-boot one have the same via chipset) |
| 16:08.33 | simonrvn | ok |
| 16:09.57 | furrywolf_ | probably won't do it until tonight... need to work on cleaning house, fixing the other lawnmower, and might stop by the scrapyard. |
| 16:10.44 | msinhore | The bootloader need only ext2 fs on root dir? |
| 16:12.05 | simonrvn | quik? yes |
| 16:12.51 | msinhore | exit other bootloader what has support for others fs? |
| 16:13.07 | simonrvn | actually, the only place that needs ext2 is where first.b and second.b are. so a /boot partition with that stuff, and the kernels, intrd, etc. are all that are needed. but that,s a bit more advanced |
| 16:13.19 | simonrvn | no |
| 16:14.48 | msinhore | then, only /boot needs to be ext2, right? |
| 16:15.06 | Bor_Ed | you can't use /boot on ppc |
| 16:15.18 | simonrvn | yeh. but a) i'm leaving out some steps here |
| 16:15.27 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: *bzzt* |
| 16:15.28 | Bor_Ed | lazy sob :P |
| 16:15.40 | simonrvn | /dev/sdc7 on /boot type ext2 (rw) |
| 16:16.02 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, you've fixed the /boot thingy ? :o |
| 16:16.03 | simonrvn | cpu : 740/750 |
| 16:16.19 | simonrvn | it's *EASY* once you know how |
| 16:16.28 | Bor_Ed | cpu : 740/750 |
| 16:16.41 | Bor_Ed | clock : 233MHz |
| 16:16.45 | simonrvn | you just move /etc/quik.conf to /boot, and symlink it to /etc |
| 16:16.55 | furrywolf_ | shouldn't the debian installer deal with all that stuff? :P |
| 16:17.03 | simonrvn | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 682 2005-04-27 16:16 /boot/quik.conf |
| 16:17.05 | Bor_Ed | I think I'll keep up with the bootx |
| 16:17.12 | simonrvn | no. it doesn't. it whines if you do |
| 16:17.22 | simonrvn | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2004-06-14 08:47 /etc/quik.conf -> /boot/quik.conf |
| 16:17.27 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 16:17.44 | simonrvn | did the same on the other ppc box |
| 16:18.34 | Bor_Ed | too much work after the install |
| 16:18.37 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: mind catting and pasting /proc/sys/kernel/l2cr |
| 16:18.40 | simonrvn | ? |
| 16:18.50 | Bor_Ed | here ? |
| 16:18.57 | simonrvn | that g3 there, yeh |
| 16:19.03 | Bor_Ed | in this chan ? |
| 16:19.12 | simonrvn | yeh, it's just one line |
| 16:19.14 | Bor_Ed | 0xa9100000: enabled, no parity, 512KB, +2 clock, pipelined burst SRAM, ZZ enabled, copy-back, 0.5ns hold |
| 16:19.22 | Bor_Ed | ahh |
| 16:19.30 | simonrvn | wtf, ZZ enabled? |
| 16:19.44 | Bor_Ed | l33t bits :D |
| 16:19.45 | simonrvn | 0xa9080000: enabled, no parity, 512KB, +2 clock, pipelined burst SRAM, write-through, 0.5ns hold |
| 16:20.14 | Bor_Ed | what kernel ya have ? |
| 16:20.34 | simonrvn | 2.6.11.7 |
| 16:20.40 | Bor_Ed | .8 here |
| 16:20.48 | Bor_Ed | shouldn't have much diff there |
| 16:21.39 | simonrvn | i should clarify. it whines if you have a /boot partition (d-i) |
| 16:22.28 | simonrvn | so you have to hack your around the fact, once you've run everything else, or do it after installation (say, leave /boot unmounteduntil afterwards) |
| 16:22.37 | simonrvn | bleh |
| 16:22.46 | Bor_Ed | too hard :D |
| 16:22.57 | simonrvn | nah, just extra steps |
| 16:22.58 | Bor_Ed | debian is heard to be userfriendly distro nowadays :P |
| 16:23.08 | simonrvn | hehe. seriously? |
| 16:23.31 | Bor_Ed | new D-I and sarge release will blow the distro fights once and for all :D |
| 16:23.41 | Bor_Ed | (that all in last november/december :) |
| 16:24.08 | Bor_Ed | ...before zealots realized that the release won't happen anytime soon |
| 16:24.29 | simonrvn | well, many people are happy it's coming out finally. yeh (back then anyway) |
| 16:24.56 | msinhore | not booting the debian. :/ |
| 16:25.30 | Bor_Ed | you need to copy the kernel to Linux Kernels folder after the install from /boot and run bootx with it |
| 16:25.55 | simonrvn | yup |
| 16:25.58 | Bor_Ed | just an extra step... |
| 16:26.06 | Bor_Ed | that's the userfriendliness again :) |
| 16:26.17 | simonrvn | hey, man, cope ;p |
| 16:26.22 | Bor_Ed | LOL |
| 16:26.29 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 16:26.38 | msinhore | but now I don't the macOS |
| 16:26.49 | Bor_Ed | btw, my/our last drake box moved to deb sarge _finally_ |
| 16:26.57 | simonrvn | hah, cool |
| 16:27.08 | msinhore | I have only the debian. |
| 16:27.11 | Bor_Ed | you don't need to know mockos, it's enough that you know mount -t hfs /dev/hdXY /mockos on linux side |
| 16:27.17 | Bor_Ed | aww |
| 16:27.24 | simonrvn | i'm debating whether the put debian/kfreebsd on the x86 netbsd box... |
| 16:27.31 | furrywolf_ | bah. now I remember what I need to do today. |
| 16:27.34 | furrywolf_ | have to fix the car |
| 16:27.39 | Bor_Ed | I've managed to boot beige g3 to linux with quik from scsi disk but never from ide |
| 16:27.43 | simonrvn | oh crap... do you have another drive to boot from? |
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| 16:27.58 | msinhore | the sistem is on Open Firmware now. |
| 16:28.04 | simonrvn | msinhore: ^^ |
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| 16:28.15 | Bor_Ed | yea, disk-something error ? |
| 16:28.39 | furrywolf_ | whenever it's wet out, it only runs off two cylinders if you step on the gas... sounds like an ignition problem to me. |
| 16:28.40 | msinhore | but i don't known to make a boot with debian. |
| 16:28.43 | simonrvn | ...or put debian/linux |
| 16:28.52 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, kubuntu ? :P |
| 16:29.02 | simonrvn | i don't have a burner |
| 16:29.06 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 16:29.28 | Bor_Ed | msinhore, you'd pretty much need scsi disk if you wanted to run debian (or any other OS than mockos) as standalone |
| 16:29.28 | simonrvn | i'm not a zealot, i just prefer debian, 'tis all |
| 16:29.36 | Bor_Ed | pretty much same here |
| 16:30.11 | simonrvn | yeh. 'cause that ide bus + OF of that version is FUCKED |
| 16:30.12 | msinhore | Bor_Ed: the cd install of the macOS. |
| 16:30.18 | Bor_Ed | I still recommend mandrake/mandriva for complete newbies as I've done for some good years now and try to help on its issues too |
| 16:30.59 | Bor_Ed | msinhore, install mockos to the box to 400MB partition and leave rest for the linux and use bootx to load the ready install |
| 16:31.00 | simonrvn | sure. i do that too sometimes. suggest mandrake or some other newbie-friendly distro (ubuntu counts in that i think) |
| 16:31.31 | simonrvn | yeh, just leave the linux partition as free space |
| 16:31.32 | Bor_Ed | I haven't got first hand info/feelings about ubuntu so I keep the drake at the top of the list |
| 16:31.44 | simonrvn | i have. it's ok |
| 16:32.09 | msinhore | simonrvn: I not taste of other distros. |
| 16:32.14 | Bor_Ed | might install ubuntu to the wifes box to hdc just for kicks |
| 16:32.38 | Bor_Ed | or slowaris10 or that new BeOS |
| 16:32.43 | simonrvn | msinhore: yeh. took me a while before trying others, and other *nixen |
| 16:33.02 | Bor_Ed | a/ux still owns :D |
| 16:33.03 | simonrvn | er, s/*nixen/*nices/ |
| 16:33.24 | Bor_Ed | that was apple unix done right :) |
| 16:33.37 | simonrvn | i know some people that have a different opinion of that ;p |
| 16:33.59 | Bor_Ed | bleh... the new thingy is just horrible and bloated :) |
| 16:34.04 | msinhore | I try install the macos and reinstall the debian |
| 16:34.21 | Bor_Ed | I'd need to get some nice toy box for a/ux here as well as for amigaunix |
| 16:34.52 | simonrvn | msinhore: you don't need much space for mock os, really. enough to install it, and be bootable, plus room for kernels and such |
| 16:35.25 | Bor_Ed | there's some bootable image with just diskutils and bootx around too... though it's not enough when OF goes to lalaland |
| 16:35.53 | simonrvn | yeh :| |
| 16:36.25 | Bor_Ed | I've noticed that the 400M partition with full basic install manages to fix the gfx and sound issues with no probs |
| 16:36.49 | msinhore | 500MB is sufficient for macos? |
| 16:36.54 | Bor_Ed | easily |
| 16:37.00 | simonrvn | oh yeh. just have the config for the Monitors CP set up, and resets the video |
| 16:37.03 | Bor_Ed | you can even surf with IE for mockos on that space |
| 16:37.04 | simonrvn | sure |
| 16:37.30 | Bor_Ed | 250 was a bit tight and 500 was too much for me so settled to the 400 |
| 16:37.33 | simonrvn | thoguh i'd get icab or netscape 7.02 and ditch ie |
| 16:37.57 | Bor_Ed | I have nutscrape 4.72 or smth on the install too :D |
| 16:39.00 | simonrvn | for the later versions they should've stayed with the similar UI; the menu scrolling is rather fucked in the 6-7 series in mock os 8-9 |
| 16:39.11 | simonrvn | similar UI as 4.x i mean |
| 16:39.31 | Bor_Ed | I have mockos 9.1 on this and 8.0+8.1updates on server to boot from |
| 16:39.47 | simonrvn | cool |
| 16:40.06 | simonrvn | need food. brb |
| 16:40.30 | Bor_Ed | and still don't manage to get mol up for some sites that run flash... maybe I should continue hacking on the qemu :o |
| 16:44.17 | Bor_Ed | Fetched 244MB in 1h16m4s (53.5kB/s) some improvement over the old connection wannabe :o |
| 16:46.30 | Petro | Bor_Ed: is that 512Mb DSL? |
| 16:46.40 | Bor_Ed | kb... |
| 16:46.53 | Bor_Ed | but yea |
| 16:47.07 | Bor_Ed | I used to have <128/64kbps |
| 16:48.02 | Petro | ahh |
| 16:49.39 | simonrvn | ah, got yourself some bandwidth :) |
| 16:49.50 | Bor_Ed | yea :P |
| 16:49.53 | simonrvn | yeh, that's a thought, trying qemu |
| 16:51.08 | Bor_Ed | get the couple of files from qemu site |
| 17:10.23 | Bor_Ed | hmm, mplayer has k6 optimized build... prolly a bit faster on k6-2 than 586 one |
| 17:10.46 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 17:11.07 | Bor_Ed | and would -mcpu 750 help on src build in here ? |
| 17:11.21 | simonrvn | have no problems with -powerpc. no skips, etc. |
| 17:11.29 | Bor_Ed | I get sound laggy at some point on full lenght divx clips here |
| 17:11.31 | simonrvn | generic non-altivec |
| 17:11.37 | Bor_Ed | that's the same |
| 17:13.39 | Bor_Ed | 3DNow supported but disabled |
| 17:13.39 | Bor_Ed | CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0 |
| 17:13.39 | Bor_Ed | Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX |
| 17:13.42 | Bor_Ed | WTF ? :o |
| 17:13.46 | simonrvn | aah, much better after eating |
| 17:13.55 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 17:14.09 | simonrvn | could be conf option? |
| 17:14.12 | Bor_Ed | that's the -k6 ver :o |
| 17:14.39 | simonrvn | i.e., ~/.mplayerwhatever |
| 17:14.55 | Bor_Ed | k6-2:~# cat .mplayer/config |
| 17:14.55 | Bor_Ed | # Write your default config options here! |
| 17:14.55 | Bor_Ed | k6-2:~# |
| 17:15.14 | Bor_Ed | just wife has |
| 17:15.21 | simonrvn | ok |
| 17:15.53 | simonrvn | need to do some research. web browsing mostly |
| 17:16.20 | Bor_Ed | naa, dumping more stuff there and booting 'soon' to kdm |
| 17:16.25 | simonrvn | ok |
| 17:17.12 | Bor_Ed | whoops, X wasn't installed but kde is :o |
| 17:17.26 | simonrvn | heh |
| 17:17.51 | Bor_Ed | 44.1M more to suck |
| 17:18.17 | Bor_Ed | ~15 mins on this one... and ~1.5 hours on old isp :D |
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| 17:24.35 | simonrvn | heh :) |
| 17:25.19 | Bor_Ed | got to agree to pay the 12 eur/mo for this service... and prolly update to 2M/768 'later' this year :P |
| 17:25.32 | simonrvn | :) |
| 17:26.20 | Bor_Ed | this seems reliable and close to claimed speed (old one claimed 256/256 and was something between no connected and gprs speeds) |
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| 17:28.43 | Bor_Ed | you wouldn't happen to remember how to get another boxes login manager to be launched to VC8 ? |
| 17:29.03 | Bor_Ed | X --query ip_of_box :0.1 or something like that ? |
| 17:36.12 | simonrvn | dunno, sorry |
| 17:36.32 | Bor_Ed | bleh, I'll whack my way around it after the boot |
| 17:37.48 | Bor_Ed | The system is going down for reboot NOW! |
| 17:37.48 | Bor_Ed | k6-2:~# |
| 17:37.49 | Bor_Ed | :D |
| 17:37.54 | Bor_Ed | just got to love ssh |
| 17:47.29 | simonrvn | :) |
| 17:49.24 | Bor_Ed | off to pick up some 'fix beer' |
| 17:50.24 | simonrvn | i'm tweaking mail conf, and all the data is cached right now, so i can't do a true test yet :| |
| 17:50.50 | simonrvn | restarting the daemons doesn't/won't work (having tried...) |
| 18:00.23 | Bor_Ed | hey, you wouldn't happen to know how to reroute tcp/25 from another host for incoming mail to different port ? |
| 18:02.16 | simonrvn | you need to edit your mangle table, and use PREROUTING i think? |
| 18:02.24 | Bor_Ed | hrm, some asshole tried to bruteforce ssh again |
| 18:02.34 | Bor_Ed | I'd need external ip for the router |
| 18:02.46 | Bor_Ed | isp blocks tcp/25 both ways :/ |
| 18:02.59 | Sam-I-Am | hmmmm |
| 18:03.04 | simonrvn | not asshole, zombified host |
| 18:03.11 | Sam-I-Am | i'd like to know why in the hell debian sarge still insists on using devilfs on install |
| 18:03.22 | Bor_Ed | naa, they're pretty direct hits and fucking everytime different user/pass list |
| 18:03.23 | Sam-I-Am | worst_thing_ever |
| 18:03.26 | simonrvn | exploitable sshds, get r00ted, blam, another idiot has to reinstall the box |
| 18:04.01 | Bor_Ed | just dropped ssh from internet side and about to drop a line or 2 to morons isps abuse line |
| 18:04.10 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 18:04.26 | Bor_Ed | hmm, germany this time |
| 18:05.18 | Bor_Ed | no abuse contact from the whois :/ |
| 18:05.42 | simonrvn | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src/miscellaneous/ssh-sentry.tar.gz |
| 18:05.51 | Bor_Ed | oh well, didn't get in as test or admin or root or whatever |
| 18:05.53 | Bor_Ed | wassat ? |
| 18:06.33 | simonrvn | has an init script i added. watches auth.log for such attempts, and adds an entry in hosts.deny for that host |
| 18:06.48 | Bor_Ed | just checking the .pl file |
| 18:07.10 | simonrvn | you could probably script it to add an iptables rule, or an entry in the router's routing table to null route it |
| 18:07.13 | Bor_Ed | the .init file goes to rc2.d and init.d |
| 18:07.15 | Bor_Ed | ? |
| 18:07.19 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 18:07.24 | simonrvn | i start it after ssh |
| 18:07.33 | Bor_Ed | hmm, got to check out |
| 18:07.51 | Bor_Ed | you have it untarred to /usr/local and linked from there ? |
| 18:08.18 | simonrvn | pretty much. might need to check the init script make sure the stuff is ok |
| 18:08.23 | simonrvn | (names) |
| 18:08.29 | Bor_Ed | hmm, right |
| 18:09.11 | Bor_Ed | /usr/local/sbin/ |
| 18:09.20 | simonrvn | ok, so that still fucked up.... hmm |
| 18:09.49 | Bor_Ed | want to unfuck it before I drop the whole connection ? :D |
| 18:10.10 | simonrvn | no, it's not that kind of fucked up :) |
| 18:10.21 | simonrvn | i was talking of the init script only |
| 18:10.23 | Bor_Ed | grmbl, well got to try my luck |
| 18:11.47 | Bor_Ed | 2 lines needed a mod |
| 18:12.53 | simonrvn | ok. i'll check it out later |
| 18:13.06 | Bor_Ed | running from rc2.d/S21sshd-sentry.init start now |
| 18:13.31 | Bor_Ed | how many retries it allows before dropping client ? |
| 18:14.57 | simonrvn | haven't counted, even if it does refuse the connection, often you'll see the zombie trying to connect anyway |
| 18:15.03 | Bor_Ed | and seems that you had the thingy confed for yer network |
| 18:15.36 | simonrvn | yeh oops :) *blush* |
| 18:15.52 | Bor_Ed | had to change the info a bit on the perl script :P |
| 18:17.18 | Bor_Ed | treshold is 8... hmm, I'll drop that a bit too |
| 18:17.50 | Bor_Ed | I really don't have too many users trying to connect and usually they know their passes and uids :P |
| 18:18.10 | msinhore | what partitions I need on the oldworld for use linux only? |
| 18:18.35 | Bor_Ed | ext2 / and swap |
| 18:19.03 | Bor_Ed | also the partition map partition but that comes from initing the HD |
| 18:19.06 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: you could also consider disabling password authentication |
| 18:19.22 | Bor_Ed | pahartik ? |
| 18:20.12 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: SSH supports authentication with public/private keys |
| 18:20.44 | msinhore | the partition with name Apple, Machintosh, Patch Partition with none fs I can delete? |
| 18:20.45 | simonrvn | ok, tweaked it |
| 18:20.50 | Bor_Ed | I know... and have some boxen that have the thingy enabled... though I have random amount of temp accounts and such so I really need passes too |
| 18:21.21 | simonrvn | i enable password and key auth. just in case the user doesn't have a key yet |
| 18:21.24 | Bor_Ed | msinhore, just reinitialize partition map on installer if you think you can live without macos wheh OF crashes |
| 18:22.09 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, need to download again or what ? |
| 18:22.16 | simonrvn | nah |
| 18:22.23 | Bor_Ed | did the same as I ? |
| 18:22.28 | simonrvn | just made the perl script more generic |
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| 18:22.34 | Bor_Ed | mmm |
| 18:23.26 | pahartik | simonrvn: yes, it depends on how users behave... |
| 18:24.03 | msinhore | with partition assinstant, the partition #1 hava 32.3KB and the name is Apple. This is necessary? |
| 18:24.18 | msinhore | ops: s/hava/have/ |
| 18:24.24 | demon | msinhore: you can't delete it, and yes, it's necessary |
| 18:24.28 | Bor_Ed | if I had 'commercial grade' service, I'd have pub key on site and requre that as key to get privkey |
| 18:24.32 | demon | it's where the partition map lives |
| 18:24.38 | Bor_Ed | msinhore, that's partition table |
| 18:26.16 | msinhore | Bor_Ed: ok |
| 18:27.32 | simonrvn | AFK |
| 18:27.46 | Bor_Ed | d-r--u-n-k |
| 18:28.16 | Petro | at work? |
| 18:28.25 | Bor_Ed | mmm, I wish :P |
| 18:28.41 | Petro | lol, I don't think they would let you stick around for long |
| 18:28.56 | Bor_Ed | I pretty much doubt too |
| 18:29.18 | Petro | Everyone's talking about KDE4, but is there not going to be a KDE3.5? |
| 18:29.30 | Bor_Ed | well, maybe in evening shift but not when bosses are around |
| 18:30.19 | Bor_Ed | no idea about kde... wife requested some kde to her box and looks like it was 3.3.x or something now from sarge |
| 18:30.26 | Petro | Yeah, my teachers are always around :( not that I would want to be drunk during class |
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| 18:31.25 | Bor_Ed | we dropped by to polytechnic classes at 8am after being drinking to 6am... just drop by to home, take a short shower, some coffee and the school case and get to cafe at school :P |
| 18:32.06 | Petro | lol |
| 18:38.36 | msinhore | after install debian, return the message: can't OPEN: /pci/mac-io/ide@20000/ata-disk@0:0 |
| 18:38.55 | Bor_Ed | msinhore, as we've mentioned, OF has serious bugs with ide disks... |
| 18:39.28 | Bor_Ed | I didn't get it to work at all after trying couple of weeks, put / to scsi and it worked on first try |
| 18:39.31 | msinhore | Bor_Ed... yep |
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| 18:44.47 | msinhore | I'm on the open firmware prompt. is possible booting the cd for prompt? |
| 18:45.00 | Bor_Ed | only mockos cd |
| 18:45.36 | Bor_Ed | you can boot that by pressing 'c' key after boing too though |
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| 20:44.44 | estragon | i have a probleme with the powermanager and the autorestart on old world mac ... |
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| 21:44.03 | simonrvn | estragon: please explain more of what you mean. also the machine type, etc. |
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| 22:28.28 | fulldisclosure | hi |
| 22:28.36 | simonrvn | hi |
| 22:28.49 | fulldisclosure | I really would like java plugin for mozilla |
| 22:28.59 | fulldisclosure | it will appear some day? |
| 22:29.02 | dj-death | no ;) |
| 22:29.35 | fulldisclosure | dj-death, why not? |
| 22:29.41 | dj-death | really need to play on yahoo games ? ;) |
| 22:29.57 | fulldisclosure | no |
| 22:30.01 | fulldisclosure | gay chat |
| 22:30.11 | fulldisclosure | for know people in my city |
| 22:30.23 | dj-death | I dont think sun will release java for linuxppc as far most of ppc user run osX |
| 22:30.34 | furrywolf_ | umm. you are aware 99% of "singles chat" services, etc, and total bull, right? |
| 22:30.40 | furrywolf_ | s/and/are |
| 22:30.46 | dj-death | not really |
| 22:30.51 | dj-death | I dont use java |
| 22:30.53 | simonrvn | yeh, they just send it off to apple so they can mangle the code for os x bsd |
| 22:31.22 | fulldisclosure | why yes for linux86 and not in linux ppc? |
| 22:31.42 | simonrvn | you *could* go get the source, and build it. i tried to, looked at it, and thought "what a fucking goddamned mess this is". |
| 22:31.43 | dj-death | there is a lot of user running linux86 |
| 22:32.14 | fulldisclosure | but is only a plugin |
| 22:32.28 | dj-death | a lot server running fucking web based java site |
| 22:32.50 | dj-death | that's why sun release java for amd64 |
| 22:33.02 | simonrvn | there's ibm's but has no browser plugin. has everything else. and the free ones either don't have the plugin, or do, but don't have all the needed support. |
| 22:33.28 | fulldisclosure | yep |
| 22:33.42 | fulldisclosure | fulldisclosure@wildbook:~/Software/java$ ls |
| 22:33.42 | fulldisclosure | IBMJava2-JRE-142.ppc.tgz IBMJava2-ppc-142 j2re1.3.1 j2re-1.3.1-02c-FCS-linux-ppc.bin |
| 22:33.49 | fulldisclosure | I just have ibm one |
| 22:34.23 | fulldisclosure | and the 1.3.1 have the plugin but it doesnt work |
| 22:34.31 | fulldisclosure | is blackdown one |
| 22:34.33 | simonrvn | 1.3.1 is too fucking old |
| 22:34.45 | fulldisclosure | but it may work for the chat xD |
| 22:34.57 | simonrvn | *maybe*. you could try it |
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| 22:40.10 | fulldisclosure | simonrvn, konqueror can show java applets with java ppc yes? |
| 22:40.21 | fulldisclosure | simonrvn, I can see some java applets with konqueror and ibm java |
| 22:40.39 | simonrvn | still needs the plugin to run applets in it AFAIK |
| 22:40.48 | simonrvn | oh. hmm |
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