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| 13:49.21 | karim | hi |
| 13:49.23 | karim | http://pastebin.com/284655 |
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| 14:56.31 | cspan | hi, can someone please help me setting up jackd |
| 14:56.34 | cspan | or audio, in general? |
| 14:56.41 | cspan | jackd refuses to start |
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| 15:33.43 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, yer ssh auth thingy allows at least 6 tries it seems... I'd be happy with max 3... what's the var again ? |
| 15:34.07 | simonrvn | there's a --help |
| 15:35.25 | Bor_Ed | hmmm, nice to know :P |
| 15:37.52 | Bor_Ed | -t it seems... |
| 15:38.07 | Bor_Ed | treshold 2 :o |
| 15:38.50 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 15:39.01 | Bor_Ed | that from the script o_O |
| 15:39.45 | Bor_Ed | I have that on the script too, grmbl |
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| 15:41.13 | Bor_Ed | hrm, and it hasn't added a thing to hosts.deny either |
| 15:42.17 | karim | hi |
| 15:42.24 | Bor_Ed | evening |
| 15:42.29 | karim | I have a problem with base-config |
| 15:42.36 | karim | it says terminated |
| 15:42.38 | karim | directly |
| 15:42.43 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: usually works. |
| 15:42.46 | karim | while I don't have anything configured |
| 15:42.51 | simonrvn | karim: it exited |
| 15:42.58 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, prolly too fast buggr for the script then |
| 15:42.58 | simonrvn | strace it |
| 15:43.00 | karim | in a chrooted environnment |
| 15:43.05 | karim | mmm |
| 15:43.34 | simonrvn | sometimes it doesn't write to .deny here either. dunno what's going on with it |
| 15:43.56 | simonrvn | and i'm not the one to blame for writing it ;p |
| 15:44.56 | Bor_Ed | I checked the 'credits' of the script... you've just shared it :) |
| 15:46.35 | karim | http://pastebin.com/284705 |
| 15:46.44 | karim | for the strace |
| 15:46.56 | karim | seems I should bind /dev and /proc maybe |
| 15:47.37 | karim | doesn't work |
| 15:48.06 | simonrvn | you probably need to mount /proc, which you probably didn't do inside the chroot, which you do need to do |
| 15:48.36 | simonrvn | as to /dev, you need a minimum, like /dev/(u)random, null, zero, and a few others |
| 15:48.58 | simonrvn | run MAKEDEV in the chroot's /dev |
| 15:49.22 | simonrvn | or MAKEDEV generic |
| 15:49.34 | simonrvn | (i think it's 'generic' anyway) |
| 15:50.05 | karim | ok |
| 15:50.18 | simonrvn | man it |
| 15:50.19 | karim | I guess i mustn't bind it |
| 15:50.57 | simonrvn | it can't see outside the chroot. that's the point of one |
| 15:51.28 | karim | lol I just realised I my socks where the ones I used to do sport yeasterday |
| 15:51.31 | karim | awfull |
| 15:59.44 | karim | simonrvn, http://pastebin.com/284709 |
| 15:59.49 | karim | still no succes |
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| 16:04.42 | simonrvn | it's trying to open a pty, bu there's none to open |
| 16:04.56 | simonrvn | s/bu/but/ |
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| 16:06.26 | simonrvn | read the MAKEDEV man page to find out how to take care of that |
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| 16:08.50 | karim | hem |
| 16:09.04 | karim | I did a deboostrap on x86 and got no such problems |
| 16:10.13 | simonrvn | run dpkg --configure --pending for kicks. maybe you missed a step |
| 16:12.52 | simonrvn | i haven't seen deboostrap puke on any machine that way |
| 16:12.59 | simonrvn | debootstrap* |
| 16:13.23 | karim | no it's ok |
| 16:13.33 | karim | it fails only in the chrooted environment |
| 16:13.38 | karim | outside it's ok |
| 16:13.46 | karim | but not usefull of course :) |
| 16:14.15 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 16:21.26 | karim | /usr/lib/base-config/menu |
| 16:21.33 | karim | I run all the scripts by hand |
| 16:22.04 | simonrvn | did you create the ptys yet? |
| 16:23.01 | karim | with MAKEDEV yes |
| 16:23.17 | karim | so let me ask you |
| 16:23.25 | karim | I do chroot |
| 16:23.28 | karim | then I MAKEDEV |
| 16:23.36 | karim | I don't bind /dev right ? |
| 16:26.29 | simonrvn | no |
| 16:28.12 | karim | so it doesn't work |
| 16:29.17 | karim | but I managed to configure what was needed so I will do without it |
| 16:32.12 | dj-death | how to know the number of channel on my ibook audio chip ? |
| 16:32.28 | dj-death | I need it to fill my .asoundrc |
| 16:37.56 | simonrvn | some file in /proc, asound |
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| 18:39.36 | Wowzer | how stable/easy is it to have a dual boot system? Specifically, I have 3 internal HD in a Sawtooth. I've got 10.3.9 running. This is my main machine, and would not like to have the main Mac OSX HD get into trouble. I was planning on partitioning one of the other internal drives...but before I even try, I wanted to see how well debian 'plays' with MacOSX.... |
| 18:40.39 | simonrvn | should be fine. might have to re-run ybin occasionally, but that's about it |
| 18:41.15 | Wowzer | simonrvn! How are you, guy? My PM6100 is still running (but it's too damned loud)...same install from about 2 years back... |
| 18:41.30 | simonrvn | cool. doing ok. you? |
| 18:42.28 | Wowzer | doing okay here...I recently installed debian on a compaq and was wondering how I could easily migrate from the 6100 (getting a little too slow) to the wintel setup. I'm thinking rsync should be good. |
| 18:56.09 | simonrvn | uh, only the non-binary data ;) |
| 18:56.46 | Bor_Ed | why not to get athlon x2/4GHz+ and run qemu-system-ppc on it ? :P |
| 18:57.28 | simonrvn | and as to the packages just do dpkg --get-selections > packages and on the other box, do dpkg --set-selections < packages |
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| 19:05.02 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, yer script leaks like winhoser :I |
| 19:05.34 | Bor_Ed | some moron just started to use yankee names by yankee calendar from a and script didn't act even at b |
| 19:06.38 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: it's falling apart here too :| |
| 19:06.48 | Bor_Ed | grmbl |
| 19:07.02 | Bor_Ed | had to disable public ssh again |
| 19:08.03 | Bor_Ed | hmm, maybe I should just drop ALL |
| 19:08.19 | Bor_Ed | grmbl, hosts.deny to disable all but known masks |
| 19:08.26 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 19:08.54 | simonrvn | entry in deny to drop everything, then in allow allow some hosts |
| 19:09.09 | simonrvn | duh, why am i telling you this? hehe |
| 19:09.11 | Bor_Ed | I have 4-5 hosts connecting anyway |
| 19:09.51 | Bor_Ed | buggr cell phones ssh client can't manage to crunch ssh2 but maybe if I tune the hosts files I could enable it as ssh1 |
| 19:09.57 | simonrvn | i used to do the knockd thing, plus DROP in iptables; but i'm not always on a box i can install it |
| 19:10.04 | simonrvn | (knock) |
| 19:11.03 | Petro | Is there any way to see all the output of a program (ie dmesg for a program)? |
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| 19:11.43 | simonrvn | i think i'll keep using the script, but i'll tweak it some |
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| 19:11.54 | simonrvn | Petro: ENOCONTEXT |
| 19:12.20 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, if you get sane solution up, please share :) |
| 19:12.25 | MortiBurnified | anyone know a good place to figure out how to use airport with debian? |
| 19:12.59 | Bor_Ed | airport 'just works', airport extreme 'when hell freezes' |
| 19:13.03 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: sure |
| 19:13.16 | MortiBurnified | well i know there's like not AE support |
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| 19:13.23 | MortiBurnified | i'm just looking for how to config airport :-) |
| 19:13.42 | Petro | simonrvn: thanks, that's just what I was looking for! |
| 19:13.44 | Bor_Ed | iw-config (iirc) works for the 'airport' driver |
| 19:13.55 | simonrvn | Petro: hehe |
| 19:13.57 | demon | iwconfig, actually |
| 19:13.59 | Bor_Ed | part of wireless-tools (iirc again) |
| 19:14.16 | MortiBurnified | yeah, installed that |
| 19:14.27 | MortiBurnified | does it support WPA? |
| 19:14.37 | MortiBurnified | or should i switch my wireless thing to WEP |
| 19:14.43 | _rene_ | use WEP |
| 19:14.48 | Bor_Ed | wpa ? hmm, not sure on that |
| 19:14.56 | _rene_ | don't think it can wpa |
| 19:15.25 | MortiBurnified | yeah, i should probably reboot into OSX so i can log into my router and make it accessible |
| 19:16.25 | Petro | Too bad Apple doesn't make a LiveCD, that would be pretty cool |
| 19:17.10 | one_2_one | Apple doesn't make a LiveCD |
| 19:17.20 | one_2_one | but you can create one |
| 19:17.22 | one_2_one | :) |
| 19:17.37 | one_2_one | with bootcd |
| 19:17.54 | thebug | basically all of their installer CDs for versions < OS X are "live cds" |
| 19:18.54 | Petro | yeah but you can't run airport setup admin or whatever :( |
| 19:19.04 | simonrvn | yes. with very basic appletalk net, and not much else |
| 19:19.06 | Petro | Maybe a hacking opportunity? |
| 19:19.19 | simonrvn | hack a cd together, then it'll be useful |
| 19:19.32 | Petro | Or apple could recompile it against gnustep... but meh |
| 19:19.57 | thebug | anyone near mid-MI want 2x Sun GDM-20E20 monitors (multisync, 13w13 [but that's easy enough to get a 10-15$ adapter to HD15 for]) |
| 19:20.19 | thebug | 20" trinitrons |
| 19:20.32 | simonrvn | mid-mi? oh, u.s. state... |
| 19:20.37 | Bor_Ed | sure, what continent MI is on again ? :D |
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| 19:20.43 | thebug | michigan, usa (apologies) |
| 19:21.04 | Bor_Ed | I think I'll have to skip this time |
| 19:21.11 | thebug | hehe |
| 19:21.12 | simonrvn | what kind of bug are you, thebug? |
| 19:21.27 | thebug | the kind with two too many huge monitors ;) |
| 19:21.32 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 19:21.55 | Bor_Ed | I just trashed 20" apple tube on move... kinda prefer this tft over that huge bugger |
| 19:22.54 | simonrvn | yeh, a tft would be nice to do stuff like temporary usage, like building and configuring a future headless box, or other such uses |
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| 19:26.06 | Bor_Ed | I've been checking for the pc104 and other small form factor development pretty closely for some years now and just waiting for 'screens' to drop to affordable prices, the rest are readily available nowadays |
| 19:26.56 | simonrvn | better than lugging around a 13" crt just to see shit for 20 minutes... |
| 19:26.57 | Bor_Ed | btw, I have headless server box under my desktop and it's some secs to switch the svga cable from one to another |
| 19:27.18 | Bor_Ed | 13" crt ? :) isn't that the famous apple color monitor ? :P |
| 19:27.22 | simonrvn | takes me up to a minute sometimes |
| 19:27.24 | simonrvn | yes |
| 19:30.16 | Bor_Ed | I gave away 4 of those when I sold my slow slow apples :) |
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| 19:46.55 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 20:55.02 | xbaez | hi what pachake is for cpan in debian woody / |
| 20:55.29 | Bor_Ed | perl-cpan or something like that can download and build it |
| 20:56.34 | simonrvn | dh-make-perl |
| 20:56.48 | simonrvn | xbaez: ^^ |
| 20:57.03 | simonrvn | that's for debian in general, not just woody |
| 20:58.27 | xbaez | simonrvn, thanks ! :) |
| 20:59.09 | simonrvn | np |
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| 22:01.33 | xbaez | how can i have the cpu_temperature in my ibook down ... |
| 22:02.03 | xbaez | the limit is 50 degrees but sometimes mi icpu_temperature is 53 59 |
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| 22:03.17 | simonrvn | i'll tyr to answer you when i come back |
| 22:03.20 | simonrvn | try* |
| 22:04.43 | xbaez | great thanks |
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| 22:23.32 | simonrvn | xbaez: depending on the machine, you can enable fan control kernel modules, and have them control the fans. tried that? else i'd check the mailing list (debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org) |
| 22:27.40 | xbaez | oh thanks ! |
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| 22:42.56 | strat50s | hi |
| 22:43.11 | simonrvn | hi |
| 22:43.24 | strat50s | hi simonrvn :) |
| 22:43.39 | strat50s | has anybody got internal iBook G4 microphone working under GNU/Linux? |
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| 23:05.39 | simonrvn | alsamixer. turn it on |
| 23:05.53 | strat50s | simonrvn, there's no control for microphone under alsamixer |
| 23:06.34 | strat50s | i have tried to record directly from the mic with 'rec -r 44100 -d /dev/dsp -c 2 test.wav' |
| 23:06.53 | strat50s | but I can only hear my voice quite low and very noisy |
| 23:09.41 | simonrvn | there's no 'mic' column? |
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| 23:31.25 | dj-death | strat50s: works fine for me |
| 23:31.48 | strat50s | mmm dj-death working fine in a iBook G4? |
| 23:32.00 | strat50s | simonrvn, no, there's no mic column... and I'm using kernel 2.6.11 |
| 23:32.00 | dj-death | strat50s: yes the mic is low, noisy and mono |
| 23:32.06 | dj-death | strat50s: yes |
| 23:32.23 | strat50s | dj-death, which command are you using to record sound from your mic? |
| 23:32.46 | dj-death | arecord |
| 23:32.51 | dj-death | go to alsamixer |
| 23:32.56 | strat50s | mmm let me see |
| 23:33.02 | dj-death | input source column |
| 23:33.04 | dj-death | select mic |
| 23:33.17 | strat50s | oh god |
| 23:33.21 | strat50s | now |
| 23:33.24 | strat50s | I can listen to it! |
| 23:33.30 | strat50s | oh thanks dj-death :) |
| 23:34.02 | dj-death | but no pcm record |
| 23:34.06 | dj-death | that just sux |
| 23:34.40 | xbaez | hi what is the package for listen ogg files in xmms |
| 23:37.05 | strat50s | mmm dj-death just arecord test.wav should work or do I have to enter any other parameters |
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| 23:41.00 | strat50s | mmm |