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| 03:56.34 | ysothoth | simonrvn: So these usb wifi adapters will work without installing additional packages? |
| 03:57.37 | ysothoth | I was under the impression that usb orinoco was somewhat experimental and required installing new drivers from source |
| 03:58.51 | simonrvn | that i don't know. but there's drivers for them. dunno how well or what you need to do to get them going. afaik they're open source |
| 03:59.59 | ysothoth | Ok cool |
| 04:00.03 | ysothoth | I will check it out. |
| 04:00.10 | ysothoth | Thanks :) |
| 04:00.27 | simonrvn | ok. hth |
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| 05:40.58 | enrique | hello |
| 05:41.26 | enrique | excuse me, have any of you being able to run X on an old world mac G3/233 |
| 05:41.36 | simonrvn | yes. many have. |
| 05:41.44 | enrique | i cant run it :'( |
| 05:42.05 | enrique | when i do lspci |
| 05:42.18 | enrique | it says i have an ati rage pro |
| 05:42.32 | simonrvn | yes |
| 05:42.35 | enrique | but when i try loading the ati module it wont start |
| 05:42.50 | simonrvn | what won't start? what are you trying to do? |
| 05:42.58 | enrique | startx |
| 05:43.43 | enrique | what should i do? |
| 05:43.49 | simonrvn | video drivers in x have 2 parts. one kernel for the framebuffer, and the other in the xserver, for acceleration. |
| 05:44.07 | simonrvn | just doing modprobe ati isn't going to cut it |
| 05:44.35 | enrique | ok |
| 05:44.39 | simonrvn | as i'm going on very little info - since you haven't explained yourself much - i can't help much. |
| 05:45.13 | enrique | so should i dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and change the module to ati misci or something else? |
| 05:45.39 | enrique | i installed debian 3 woody r5 on a macintosh g3/233 |
| 05:45.45 | simonrvn | ati. then look at your log - /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 05:45.57 | enrique | and when i do startx it says module load failure |
| 05:46.15 | enrique | i did checheck the logs already |
| 05:46.17 | simonrvn | what does the log say about (EE)? |
| 05:46.36 | enrique | it doesnt seem to be any error at the log |
| 05:46.37 | simonrvn | i'd upgrade to sarge. it's going to be the new stable soon anyway |
| 05:46.53 | enrique | hmmmm.... |
| 05:46.57 | simonrvn | grep EE /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 05:47.15 | enrique | hold on let me check |
| 05:50.05 | enrique | sorry the powerbook was on myback pack and since its an old one it takes a little time |
| 05:53.46 | enrique | ati driver does not support depth 4 at fbbpp 4 |
| 05:54.38 | simonrvn | well, upgrade to sarge - i'd sggest it, you'll get newer stuff - ah, ok. so up the depth to like 15 or 32, and stick to the recommended screen res. for the lcd |
| 05:54.59 | simonrvn | ravenbird: woody->sarge |
| 05:54.59 | ravenbird | Then "apt-get install aptitude". Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" or "stable" to "sarge". Then, "aptitude update" and "aptitude dist-upgrade". consider installing hotplug and/or discover1 if you're not confident with linux hardware management. see <sarge release notes> |
| 05:55.56 | enrique | ok (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration |
| 05:56.07 | enrique | i channged depth to 8 |
| 05:56.14 | simonrvn | yeh. just means it's misconfigured |
| 05:56.32 | enrique | where should i look now? |
| 05:57.04 | simonrvn | run the d-r xserver-xfree86 again, and change it to 24 |
| 05:57.52 | simonrvn | some video devices will refuse to run if they're not set to a certain minimum in particular circumstances |
| 05:58.30 | enrique | same thing |
| 06:00.16 | simonrvn | hmm. what else did you do? oh you might be able to find an XF86Config-4 for it on the web. try dotfiles.com first, then google. specify the kind of PB you have |
| 06:00.17 | enrique | same thing with 24 16 15 8 |
| 06:03.04 | simonrvn | well, i gotta sleep. sorry. i wish you good luck. if you stick around a bit longer, someone else can help you out |
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| 15:54.34 | maxxle | I'm searching for a howto on how to compile a ppc-kernel for linux out of the www.kernel.org-sources. Best would be not to be distribution specific. |
| 15:55.11 | _rene_ | as you do "normal" kernels |
| 15:55.30 | simonrvn | how to compile it does not differ from say x86. configuring it takes some knowledge of the h/w you're building it for, like any other machine |
| 15:56.35 | simonrvn | i wonder why people think building/compiling stuff on other arches would be any different from their usual arch (x86 being the most common...) |
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| 15:57.00 | maxxle | Hm. And what about the yaboot bootloader for example? |
| 15:57.29 | simonrvn | not part of the build process |
| 15:58.05 | maxxle | ok - then I'm searching for a tutorial about building the kernel, copying all together and configuring yaboot :) |
| 15:59.06 | simonrvn | man yaboot.conf |
| 15:59.18 | demon | the main difference is, on newworld (and usually on oldworld), you don't use arch/ppc/boot/[something] as your kernel image, you just use the uncompressed 'vmlinux' file and give that to your bootloader |
| 15:59.56 | demon | other than that, as was mentioned, you just need to know what hardware the machine in question has and enable the right features/drivers in the kernel for it |
| 16:00.12 | maxxle | that's clear. |
| 16:00.26 | simonrvn | the one in the top of the source tree; though quik in sid and sarge can now read gzipped kernels (same one, just gzip -9 ) |
| 16:00.56 | simonrvn | 2.4M 2005-05-18 00:03 /boot/vmlinux-2.6.11.10-pylon.gz |
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| 19:56.57 | BleSS | anyone can run :: uname -m :: and say me the result? thx |
| 19:57.40 | _rene_ | ppc |
| 19:58.13 | BleSS | ok, thx |
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