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06:08.18*** topic/#debianppc is Debian on PPC - think of it as a never-ending IQ test. | Want Linux 2.6? Use kernel.org or sid/sarge kernel-images; DON'T USE BENH 2.6 RSYNC | vers.: 2.6.11.8 | Wiki at tinyurl.com/2r8uc | New (2003+) PowerMacs with XFS HOWTO http://tinyurl.com/2s2os | Sarge frozen: http://tinyurl.com/a4mft | New penguinppc.org live! | pasting? /whois paster | ALSA bounty: http://tinyurl.com/3p4nm
06:17.27kev009hmm, well preferably with linux exp.
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08:59.09Q-FUNKpahartik: ?
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09:06.05pahartikQ-FUNK: what happened?
09:06.36Q-FUNKpahartik: you have some script that said my pmsg was ignored
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09:38.34pahartikQ-FUNK: oh, that
09:42.39pahartikQ-FUNK: i set it up to protect myself from random spam messages
09:43.24Q-FUNKI was just replying to your own hello.irc
09:43.41pahartikQ-FUNK: damn that
09:45.21pahartikQ-FUNK: just looked at scrollback buffer and your query still has messages all the way back to 2004-12-22
09:45.52Q-FUNKheh
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09:50.14pahartikQ-FUNK: still, i would like to see IRC client that behaves like IMAP/SMTP client
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09:52.02Q-FUNKpahartik: meaning?
09:52.37pahartikQ-FUNK: everything that would not get rejected right away, would get written to message box files in defined folder structure
09:52.58Q-FUNKah, like a spam trap.
09:54.27pahartikQ-FUNK: yes, but main feature would be permanent storage
09:54.42Q-FUNKpahartik: you essentially described Jabber.
09:55.33pahartikQ-FUNK: oh...
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11:49.16zeevhi, i'm new to debian
11:50.07zeevcould someone tell me the difference between the unstable distrubtion, and working with the unstable branch?
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13:49.58rleighzeev: http://www.debian.org/releases/
13:50.27rleighzeev: The "unstable distribution" and "unstable branch" refer to the same thing: "unstable".
13:59.05zeevaye
14:00.21zeevi'm coming from using fink on os x and was thinking of the unstable branch and the distro as two seperate entities
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14:56.55os2finnhi all
14:57.36os2finnanynone knows what is ide_int_reg?
14:57.57Bor_Edide interrupt request ?
14:58.39os2finnor ide interrupt register?
14:58.59Bor_Edcould be :)
14:59.07Bor_Edgetting syslog flooded with that ?
14:59.13os2finnnope
14:59.32os2finnthe thing is that i am trying to boot OS/2 PowerPC edition under QEMU
14:59.46Bor_Edbuggr, I want that too :)
14:59.54Bor_Edhaven't seen the cd ever :o
15:00.03os2finnand OS/2 bootloader thinks that this register is at 0x0838
15:00.22Bor_Edwhat machine emulation you have on conf ?
15:00.28os2finnand it is not so I get a lot of unaffected IOPORT 0x0838 reads & writes
15:00.33os2finnPREP
15:00.57Bor_Edhmm, it should work afaik
15:01.04os2finnand machine is IBM PPS Model 6050
15:01.11os2finnDelmar / Southwind
15:01.21os2finnthe emulated machine
15:01.35Bor_Edhey, where you got the os2/ ppc edition anyway ?
15:01.51os2finnBought this 6050 and it came with it
15:02.00os2finnoriginal CD :)
15:02.03Bor_Edgrmbl
15:02.29Bor_EdI'd like to test that out too, I've used os/2 on peecees from 1.3 up to wseb (4.05)
15:03.04Bor_Eddo you use aix or what on the pps ?
15:04.02os2finnhttp://pages.prodigy.net/michaln/history/os2ppc/
15:04.09os2finncheck that out
15:04.17Bor_Eddanke
15:04.25os2finnI used Linux on it until I found this CD :)
15:05.01Bor_Edhrm, no download on that site :I
15:05.13Bor_Edyou can dualboot linux/os2
15:05.30os2finnyes but I have debian on Powermac & X86
15:05.59os2finnso its enough linux for me
15:06.01Bor_EdI think quik would have better change on loading the os/2 too than the warp bootloader...
15:06.29os2finnwell it wont work
15:06.46os2finnbecause this bootloader does following things:
15:07.02os2finn1. turns procesor to Little-endian mode
15:07.24os2finn2. Loads all device drivers & lot of other stuff into memory
15:07.43os2finn3. Passes memory locations of this stuff to microkernel
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15:07.56os2finn4. starts microkernel
15:08.04Bor_Edhmm... does a bit more than on peecee
15:08.15os2finnthis is a true microkernel
15:08.23os2finnit cant even load device drivers
15:08.25Bor_Edcan you access the boxes OF ?
15:08.31os2finnyes
15:08.41Bor_Edand set the ide address in there ?
15:08.57os2finnon 6050?
15:09.01Bor_Edyea
15:09.04os2finnor qemu?
15:09.10Bor_Edon the real deal
15:09.21os2finnit works great on that machine
15:09.29os2finnbut not under Qemu
15:10.12os2finnor "works" is not correct word
15:10.16Bor_EdI see...
15:10.23os2finnits really buggy & unstable :)
15:10.46Bor_Edmmm, me likes :)
15:10.49os2finnthe IBM microkernel 1.0
15:11.05os2finnI like it too
15:11.09Bor_Edhave you tried to run on rs6k 43p-7248 machine emulation ?
15:11.15Bor_Edit's supposed to be the same box
15:11.40os2finnwell the bootloader does one nice trick at the beginning of boot
15:11.58os2finnit fetches machine model[] from residual data
15:12.15os2finn& compares this string to few ascii string inside its code
15:12.18Bor_Edand pukes if it doesn't match ?
15:12.24os2finnyes :)
15:12.33os2finnmachine models accepted are
15:12.38os2finnIBM PPS models
15:12.41os2finn6042
15:12.44Bor_Edhmm, put the cd available somewhere ? :)
15:13.03os2finn6040,6050,6070,7248 & motorola powerstack E-series
15:13.19Bor_Ed7248 ... that's the rs6k
15:13.23os2finnyep
15:13.28os2finnit should work
15:13.39Bor_Eddunno what the powerstack e series is :o
15:13.58os2finnits a thing that looks like hifi-stereo set :)
15:14.10Bor_Edoookay :o
15:14.39os2finnhttp://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=8060&item=6725530338
15:14.46os2finnthere you go :)
15:15.07Bor_Edsheesh :)
15:16.18Bor_Edain't looking as cool as my rs6k's did though :D
15:47.25rleighHi folks.  Being new to powerpc, this may be a stupid question.  When I look at /proc/interrupts, I see at the bottom, 'BAD:      21197'.  Is this normal, or does it indicate a hardware fault or misconfiguration?  Thanks.
15:47.56Bor_EdI have similar too
15:48.06Bor_Edprobably just normal
15:48.15johillme too. I'd guess that those include unhandled interrupts that no one cared about?
15:48.24Bor_Edsomething like that
15:50.01johilllook at arch/ppc/kernel/irq.c:do_IRQ
15:50.45Bor_Eddon't have source untarred currently
15:51.01johilllet me look for an lxr url
15:51.44johillhttp://lxr.linux.no/source/arch/ppc/kernel/irq.c?a=ppc#L138
15:52.44rleighjohill: I like the comment, '/* That's not SMP safe ... but who cares ? */' :)
15:52.49johillyeah. heh
15:53.29johilltrue tho ;) there are interrupts that we get from the system but don't care about. so why should the kernel keep an accurate count :)
15:55.41os2finnok
15:56.34rleighTrue.  I won't worry about it then.  I do wonder what triggers them, though.  Some days, after only a few hours of use, it's > 100,000, but today it's been used fairly intensively and there's only ~20,000.
15:58.50johillgood question. My new powerbook has the accel sensor that probably triggers some if I lift it up or do something else,...
15:59.04johillI think you might find the interrupt sources in the device tree
16:00.58johillotoh, I can't, so..
16:01.27johillwell, I can't make sense of the information
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17:23.55fulldisclosurehi
17:24.07fulldisclosuredoes somebody know how to accept transfers in centericq?
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17:36.59simonrvnno
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17:45.43fulldisclosuresinplomo: y en tu caso, no has hecho man centericq, porque veras que no hay ayuda para mi pregunta :)
17:45.46fulldisclosureups
17:45.46fulldisclosuresorry
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18:16.09simonrvnfulldisclosure: pregunta? what's it mean?
18:16.26simonrvnah, question
18:16.47simonrvni have dict "From Spanish-English Freedict dictionary [fd-spa-eng]:" installed ;)
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19:03.19os2finn:))
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19:05.35Sphinxanybody have kdenlive 0.2.4 working ??
19:06.12simonrvnno. i don't use it
19:06.44Sphinxoki
19:06.48Sphinxanybody ???
19:07.20simonrvnhow about you ask your question instead of asking if anyone has used it?
19:07.21Sphinxsimonrwn: is there another video editing program that you know ???
19:07.52simonrvnapt-cache search video edit. and no, i haven't used any, but it seems they all suck in linux anyway
19:11.04Sphinxgreat news thx
19:12.19Sphinxi can open a .dv file but i see nothing on the timeline or on the monitor
19:14.34simonrvnkino maybe?
19:14.40simonrvnjust remembered
19:15.17Sphinxkino is OK for grabbing but not for editing
19:17.58os2finnftp://ftp.boulder.ibm.com/rs6000/technology/spec/
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19:41.03os2finnja boot.cfg kohdalla enter
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21:49.18suposdoes anyone have experience with debian on a Powerbook G3 series Wallstreet? I just got my hands on an old 233 mhz, an figured I might as well do something useful with it...
21:49.46_rene_yes. had one a few days. worked fine
21:52.25supossweet, anything special I should be aware of when installing Debian?
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