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| 03:30.03 | Asistoed] | does anyone know how well debian supports g4 powerbooks? sound, graphics (nvidia) etc? |
| 03:30.25 | simonrvn | how about you try it out? |
| 03:31.07 | simonrvn | just use sarge |
| 03:34.47 | Asistoed] | aha, just asking if anybody has tried it |
| 03:35.07 | Asistoed] | am using ydl, and it doesn't work well enough |
| 03:36.03 | simonrvn | it works on a lot of machines. your lappy won't die. ;) |
| 03:37.38 | Asistoed] | haha know that, but am trying to avoid testing a billion distros just to find one that works :) |
| 03:39.17 | simonrvn | never had a problem with debian. s/w is up to date, prompt security updates for stable, and cutting edge stuff in sid, and not too cutting edge in testing... take your pick |
| 03:53.15 | Asistoed] | this sounds dumb: I dl the same images to install it as I'd do for x86, right? |
| 03:53.32 | Asistoed] | no special for ppc? |
| 03:55.20 | simonrvn | no. you get the ppc ones |
| 03:56.47 | Asistoed] | how are they named? trying 2 find this on an icelandic mirror :) |
| 03:57.37 | simonrvn | go to www.debian.org/CD/, then go down lower on the page, and follow the sarge links. or go to www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and follow the ppc links |
| 03:58.33 | Asistoed] | thanks+ |
| 03:58.40 | simonrvn | ok |
| 04:00.01 | Asistoed] | how many disk do I need? gives 13 disks or so, mostly developement right? |
| 04:00.16 | simonrvn | 1 |
| 04:00.24 | Asistoed] | ..1 |
| 04:00.27 | Asistoed] | alright |
| 04:00.40 | simonrvn | netinst, and fetch the rest via net |
| 04:00.56 | Asistoed] | ahh ofcourse |
| 04:01.04 | simonrvn | or get the full one (~650 mb), and you can still install via net |
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| 14:54.00 | fulldisclosure | hi |
| 14:54.06 | fulldisclosure | what module I need to load for sequenceR? |
| 14:54.20 | fulldisclosure | fulldisclosure@wildbook:~$ pd |
| 14:54.20 | fulldisclosure | ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory |
| 14:54.23 | fulldisclosure | ViolaciĆ³n de segmento |
| 14:54.24 | fulldisclosure | I need it for puredata |
| 14:54.26 | fulldisclosure | fulldisclosure@wildbook:~$ pd_gui: pd process exited |
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| 16:28.19 | Sphinx_Ra | anyone knoe how to get the scroll function on the mouse get to work on MOL ??? |
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| 18:02.16 | mirak | hi |
| 18:02.33 | mirak | is there a way to use the hardware decompression of mpeg2 on ATI cards ? |
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| 20:35.21 | tovella | Although I'm a PC tech who's been playing around with linux on intel boxes for a couple of years now, I want to install on an old PowerPC. |
| 20:35.49 | tovella | it's an old 7500, but I can't get it to boot from a CD. |
| 20:35.49 | tovella | ... any suggestions? |
| 20:36.07 | Bor_Ed | you need to boot from floppies or from mac os with bootx loader |
| 20:37.50 | tovella | this machine was recently given to me, so I don't know much about MACs. Where can i find a boot floppy? |
| 20:39.08 | Bor_Ed | the images are included on deb woody (3.0) netinstall cd |
| 20:40.02 | tovella | ok, thanks. |
| 20:41.02 | Bor_Ed | no prob |
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| 21:00.51 | netman | hi |
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| 21:23.21 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.22 | ravenbird | Apple Macintoshes are prime candidates for Debian installs, at least the m68k-based ones. or acceptable in many powerpc forms... Ask Peidran about that... or Most Applications Crash; If Not, The Operating System Hangs, or the hardware address of a network card, or the name of Apple computers |
| 21:23.42 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.42 | ravenbird | mac -- last modified at Sat Dec 21 00:51:13 2002 by DjAcE!djace@24.232.72.153; it has been requested once, last by simonrvn, 21s ago. |
| 21:24.11 | simonrvn | that sucketh |
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| 21:32.59 | netman | :) |
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| 22:11.57 | fulldisclosure | hi guys |
| 22:12.01 | fulldisclosure | can I paste 5 lines ? |
| 22:12.54 | nusse | use a nopaste service |
| 22:13.06 | nusse | eg http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 22:13.50 | fulldisclosure | http://paste.debian.net/506 |
| 22:13.55 | fulldisclosure | I have this problem while compiling mol |
| 22:14.01 | fulldisclosure | some idea? |
| 22:14.43 | nusse | try another version of gcc |
| 22:15.14 | fulldisclosure | for eample? |
| 22:16.33 | nusse | im just guessing |
| 22:16.46 | nusse | eg if you have used 2.95 try 3.3 |
| 22:17.33 | fulldisclosure | Leyendo especificaciones de /usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/3.3.5/specs |
| 22:17.33 | fulldisclosure | Configurado con: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,java,f77,pascal,objc,ada --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/3.3 --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --enable-nls --without-included-gettext --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-debug --enable-java-gc=boehm --enable-java-awt=xlib --enable-objc-gc --disable-multilib powerpc-linux |
| 22:17.39 | fulldisclosure | Modelo de hilos: posix |
| 22:17.41 | fulldisclosure | gcc versiĆ³n 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2) |
| 22:17.44 | fulldisclosure | sorry |
| 22:17.54 | fulldisclosure | I am using 3.3 |
| 22:18.01 | _rene_ | and ubuntu |
| 22:18.06 | _rene_ | wrong channel, sorrx |
| 22:18.09 | _rene_ | sorry |
| 22:18.28 | fulldisclosure | why wrong |
| 22:18.40 | fulldisclosure | dont you see that packages are just the sae |
| 22:18.42 | fulldisclosure | same* |
| 22:18.47 | _rene_ | because this is #debianppc |
| 22:18.54 | fulldisclosure | and my problem is relationed with mol and linux not with distro |
| 22:18.54 | _rene_ | and not #ubuntuppc |
| 22:19.02 | fulldisclosure | ... |
| 22:19.21 | fulldisclosure | _rene_: dont troll |
| 22:19.36 | nusse | debianer do not like ubuntu:) |
| 22:19.39 | _rene_ | fulldisclosure: I don't troll. debian is not ubuntu.. that's everything I say |
| 22:19.53 | fulldisclosure | nusse: I use debian sarge, debian sid, ubuntu hoary, and netbsd |
| 22:19.53 | _rene_ | fulldisclosure: and this is a channel for debian on ppc, as the name says |
| 22:20.09 | fulldisclosure | nusse: people who only use debian seems very... sectarian :P |
| 22:20.42 | fulldisclosure | _rene_: ok, thanks about the information |
| 22:21.41 | _rene_ | and mol in debian sarge builds fine |
| 22:21.55 | _rene_ | tried with 2.6.8 upwards |
| 22:22.08 | fulldisclosure | xD |
| 22:22.37 | _rene_ | so I guess you need to ask in a ubuntu channel since this works on debian... |
| 22:22.46 | fulldisclosure | shut up! |
| 22:23.00 | fulldisclosure | dont you see is not a distro issue? |
| 22:23.06 | fulldisclosure | is just relationed with linux source! |
| 22:23.06 | _rene_ | fulldisclosure: hey, we use debian. how do we know what ubuntu does? |
| 22:23.09 | fulldisclosure | cant you see THAT? |
| 22:23.15 | _rene_ | fulldisclosure: it may be. what do I know what ubuntu does? |
| 22:23.27 | fulldisclosure | _rene_: I use debian and a bounch of operating systems |
| 22:23.33 | _rene_ | fulldisclosure: that the gcc version and the mol version is similar doesn't say anything |
| 22:23.33 | fulldisclosure | you are not better because using only debian |
| 22:23.47 | _rene_ | I didn't say that. |
| 22:23.59 | _rene_ | get read what I write and don't interprete |
| 22:24.28 | _rene_ | as said, works fine on sarge. with the same mol version and gcc 3.3.5-12 |
| 22:24.43 | _rene_ | mol 0.9.70+1-1 that is |
| 22:25.25 | _rene_ | with 2.6.8, 2.6.11.x and 2.6.12-rcX |
| 22:25.37 | _rene_ | because that's what I used since I have my ibook and what I built the modules for |
| 22:26.29 | _rene_ | I've no idea why it fails for you. you are using the mol-modules-source sources or plain mol from their site? |
| 22:26.36 | _rene_ | maybe something's buggy there? |
| 22:26.38 | fulldisclosure | site |
| 22:26.47 | fulldisclosure | www.maconlinux.org |
| 22:27.01 | _rene_ | I know the site. I'm not stupid |
| 22:27.15 | fulldisclosure | because in sources there is not mol-driver-osx |
| 22:27.26 | fulldisclosure | I didnt insult you |
| 22:27.51 | _rene_ | but indeed. mols debian diff has some source fixes |
| 22:27.59 | _rene_ | fulldisclosure: of course there is |
| 22:28.06 | _rene_ | fulldisclosure: hint: non-free |
| 22:29.16 | _rene_ | (and its -macosx) |
| 22:29.39 | _rene_ | (in Debian, no idea on Ubuntu....) |
| 22:30.13 | _rene_ | if Ubuntu doesn't have it, well. you neeed to build it yourself and I guess you need some of the source fixes Debian made... |
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| 23:26.15 | simonrvn | what a dufus... |
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| 23:38.50 | Alver | Hello - could someone give me a hint on how to get temperature sensors working on an imac/sarge? Google doesn't seem to show anything useful. |
| 23:39.29 | Alver | I'd like to get it in gkrellm |
| 23:39.37 | Alver | cat /proc/cpuinfo works, but that's about it |