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| 02:09.35 | jla | I'm planning on installing on a Beige G3 with a broken OSX install (and maybe an OS9 partition, but it boots from it to X automatically). I'm either going to use the 9 or a small 8.1 partition to boot with BootX. Should I put Debian as the first partition, the minimal OS8.1? |
| 02:10.04 | jla | or the minimal 8.1 |
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| 02:23.41 | simonrvn | doesn't matter |
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| 02:26.17 | jla | simonrvn OK, will it boot the MacOS partition either way? |
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| 02:37.44 | jla | I read about using quik-first.b-g3 to boot without BootX, so I'm going to give that a try. |
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| 02:52.09 | ash_ | Hi guys... thinking about buying a G3 Powerbook wallstreet for 200$... is that worth it? the 333Mhz version? |
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| 03:00.58 | simonrvn | jla: sure, though sarge's mightn<t need the g3 first.b |
| 03:09.58 | jla | simonrvn thanks for that tip. I'll try without. |
| 03:59.53 | jla | I don't see boot-floppy-hfs images for sarge. Are these ones OK to use? http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/floppy/ |
| 04:00.18 | jla | I tried booting a disk made from boot.img and got can't OPEN |
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| 04:02.08 | enrique | hello |
| 04:04.00 | enrique | how are you doing? |
| 04:06.14 | jla | asking anyone in particular? I'm trying to figure out how to boot a 3.1 installer on a beige G3 |
| 04:06.45 | simonrvn | jla: from floppy. not cd |
| 04:08.43 | enrique | debian 3.1 on a g3? |
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| 04:09.39 | jla | simonrvn That's what I'm trying. I made a floppy from boot.img, set OF to pause on boot and am trying boot-device fd0<r> boot<r> |
| 04:09.50 | jla | enrique that's what I'd like to do |
| 04:09.56 | enrique | ok |
| 04:10.00 | jla | maybe my image is bad... |
| 04:10.03 | enrique | look you dont need a floppy |
| 04:10.09 | jla | OK |
| 04:10.10 | simonrvn | that won't work. why are you bothering to go through OF? |
| 04:10.13 | enrique | you can boot from you mac hard disk |
| 04:10.26 | enrique | what kind of mac do you have? |
| 04:10.33 | jla | simonrvn because documentation pointed me there. :( |
| 04:10.39 | simonrvn | enrique: stop spreading crap, thanks |
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| 04:10.49 | jla | enrique I could do BootX, I was hoping to only have Debian on the box |
| 04:11.41 | enrique | mmm... that I dont know, Im actually at my mac G3 and im working on debian 3.0 woody r5 and its great but you have to keep at least 200 MB on you hd for a mac partition to boot |
| 04:11.49 | simonrvn | jla: insert floppy after boing, wait. have paper clip ready to eject first floppy (the auto-eject doesn't always work) |
| 04:12.11 | jla | simonrvn ok, sounds like I should turn off the OF 'pause' then? |
| 04:12.19 | simonrvn | they had the auto-eject fixed, now it borked again... |
| 04:12.40 | simonrvn | jla: if you're already in OF, you can leave the floppy in there and do 'bye' |
| 04:13.31 | simonrvn | 'boot fd' never worked IME |
| 04:13.32 | jla | it doesn't even sound like it reads the disk and then it ejects it (maybe it read it and I didn't hear) |
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| 04:14.24 | simonrvn | well if it's not reading it, then you need to re-do the floppy. the drive is very picky, and it's low level access, so no driver to buffer the bugs out... |
| 04:14.26 | jla | I'm dd'ing to another floppy |
| 04:14.57 | jla | do you think I'd have more luck using diskcopy on another mac? |
| 04:15.28 | simonrvn | won't matter. i'd use suntar on mock os |
| 04:15.59 | simonrvn | diskcopy only sees one or 2 images since there's only those with the "right size" |
| 04:16.09 | simonrvn | (1.44 MB) |
| 04:42.41 | jla | I think this image is messed up: http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/floppy/boot.img . If I boot the Disk Tools disk and look at a floppy made with this image, it has nothing on it. If I dd the image from the floppy-2.4 directory, it has a System folder and can boot. |
| 04:55.29 | jla | the boot image ejected the floppy for the root image, but choosing 'load drivers' does not. Now to search for a paper clip :) |
| 05:06.46 | jla | interesting. going back into load drivers for the 2nd disk it ejected. |
| 05:07.44 | jla | that came out wierd. I chose load drivers a second time, having ejected the first driver disk with a paper clip and stuck in the second disk before choosing load drivers. It ejected it as it went into the sub-menu |
| 05:09.24 | jla | select a keyboard layout prompts me with "USB Keyboard" or "No Keyboard to Configure" I have an ADB keyboard... |
| 05:41.37 | jla | I have no idea which kernel to choose, the 2.6 powerpc, power4 or power3 or the 2.4 apus |
| 05:42.12 | thebug | apus is for amiga power-up system ... VERY unlikely you're runningone of those |
| 05:42.40 | thebug | just use 'powerpc' |
| 05:42.55 | thebug | your beige mac is -definitely- NOT power3 or power4 |
| 05:45.12 | jla | thanks. apus was highlited so I was trying search for what they meant. |
| 06:05.32 | jla | loading the cd-drivers floppy enables the floppy eject again (I started over) |
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| 06:28.51 | jla | bah quik requires / to be ext2. The installer default is ext3 (which is practially the same thing) |
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| 06:57.15 | jla | fun, each method & combo I try gives me a different kernel list. |
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| 07:18.42 | jla | also wierd. If I only load the cd-drivers floppy it can't find my cd-rom. If I load it and the net-drivers floppy (in any order) it runs hw-detect and finds the cd-rom. I think the cd-drivers floppy doesn't include hw-detect or something. |
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| 07:45.48 | simonrvn | no, cd-drivers has the proper scsi and ide bus modules |
| 07:45.57 | simonrvn | err, doesn't rather |
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| 07:57.45 | jla | must be missing something. It looks like it copies hw-detect and scsi stuff. The net-drivers copies hw-detect and net stuff, but the "detect hardware" option and the auto-detect hooks don't work/happen until I load the net-drivers CD. |
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| 07:58.30 | jla | I've installed it, used ext2 for /, kernel-2.6.8-powerpc, rebooted and get can't OPEN :( |
| 07:59.04 | jla | possibly quik just got the parameters wrong? |
| 08:11.02 | simonrvn | boot-device probably isn't set right, and/or quik.conf options |
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| 09:18.14 | jla | based on all the posts to newsgroups boot-device hates almost everybody, not just me :) |
| 09:25.27 | jla | simonrvn Your modified version of the NetBSD list seems to say that booting from an IDE disk on a G3 is not likely to work out. |
| 09:26.13 | jla | Is that up-to-date? http://simonraven.nuit.ca/macppc/models.shtml |
| 09:28.02 | simonrvn | fairly. needs some work... i update when i can/think of it. and no, it isn't likely to work... if you're feeling masochistic, you can try booting from an IDE drive |
| 09:32.33 | jla | That's what I've been trying to do :( |
| 09:32.47 | jla | It likes to tell me it cant open. |
| 09:32.53 | simonrvn | find an old 1 GB SCSI drive, and bung it in |
| 09:33.10 | simonrvn | install on that, use the ide one to put on extra stuff |
| 09:33.38 | jla | I'll do that then. |
| 09:34.01 | jla | All the boot-device variations are mind boggling. |
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| 10:53.59 | jla | wierd. this go-around with a scsi disk in the system I don't have /dev/nvram. Reboot and try again I guess. |
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| 12:07.11 | jla | I tried disconnecting the drive, pulling the card. Still no nvsetenv and no /proc/nvram |
| 12:17.54 | pahartik | jla: "nvsetenv" opens "/dev/nvram" |
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| 12:20.45 | jla | pahartik thank you. I think I'm too tired... :) |
| 12:20.53 | jla | I'll work on this after a nap |
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| 12:31.19 | chipi | hi |
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| 13:16.34 | assassin | And I quote |
| 13:16.40 | assassin | "30 May 2005" |
| 13:16.45 | assassin | "Release" |
| 13:16.57 | aba | assassin: read d-d-a. |
| 13:26.17 | assassin | aba: that's sad... :'( although, I can sympathize with perfectionist attitudes ;) |
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| 13:26.37 | aba | assassin: well, one week more or less it not really much difference, given woodys age. |
| 13:26.56 | assassin | Heh... I just hope it doesn't turn into a month ;) |
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| 15:36.35 | niktaris | could someone please answer me so my nick get's highlighted? |
| 15:37.35 | al_ | niktaris, |
| 15:38.05 | niktaris | thanks al_ |
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| 16:29.29 | tweedle | Hi all... Anyone know if the apple airport card can do 802.1x for a radius server with the aiport module? |
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| 17:19.55 | ioops | hi |
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| 18:00.19 | jla | Does OF need to list the scsi bus in devalias or dev / ls before it will use it? |
| 18:02.27 | jla | I had a hard time finding the specs on the beige G3 onboard scsi. The only places that listed it said it was 5mb/s (ugh) so I hooked the disk to a pci card. I tried an advansys and an adaptec but neither show up on OF and I am out of ideas for device configurations |
| 18:03.35 | jla | Time to find an older/slower scsi drive. Also, is it necessary to install the disk tools "drivers" |
| 18:04.27 | Bor_Ed | it is 10MB/s scsi |
| 18:04.35 | Bor_Ed | scsi-2 actually |
| 18:08.54 | nusse | you can set the rate in kernel config i think |
| 18:08.59 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 18:09.05 | Bor_Ed | I've got mine set to 10MB/s |
| 18:09.12 | nusse | had that too |
| 18:09.24 | nusse | didnt recognice any difference, slow as before |
| 18:10.09 | Bor_Ed | 10MB/s bus did rise speed here from 2.4MB/2 to ~3.2 |
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| 18:15.43 | jla | good, that's a little better. I was trying to use an AHA-2940/2940U. That's the card the 20g drive I salvaged was hooked to. Maybe I'll find a smaller scsi drive and replace the zip with it on the internal scsi bus. |
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| 18:34.13 | simonrvn | you can flash the 2940s to 'power domains' |
| 18:34.34 | cricket | my pwoerobok gets hot alot under linux..and it often pritns "stopping fan blah blah" .. how can i make sure to keep it cool |
| 18:35.08 | simonrvn | common sense, and the fan control modules? |
| 18:35.19 | cricket | well guy |
| 18:35.34 | cricket | obvisouly if i knew how to use the fan cotnrol modules |
| 18:35.36 | cricket | i would have |
| 18:35.37 | cricket | what do u think |
| 18:35.55 | simonrvn | don't get snarky with me |
| 18:42.58 | cricket | ill snark u |
| 18:43.25 | Bor_Ed | 3 |
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| 18:58.45 | simonrvn | bleh |
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| 19:01.17 | Bor_Ed | 2,1,0, launch ! |
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| 19:11.35 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 19:11.54 | simonrvn | i was 7 minutes late =) |
| 19:11.57 | Bor_Ed | buggr box was laggy on ide HD->another HD mv command |
| 19:12.04 | Bor_Ed | yea |
| 19:12.26 | simonrvn | yeh.... ide is so slow compared to scsi... |
| 19:12.45 | Bor_Ed | not slow but buggrs whole sys while transferring |
| 19:12.54 | Bor_Ed | never had such probs on scsi setup |
| 19:12.55 | simonrvn | yeh, i've noticed too |
| 19:13.20 | Bor_Ed | hehe, mv took enough damage for ircnet to drop me :o |
| 19:13.28 | simonrvn | i've been using scsi for a long time, and ide often only recently. there's quite a difference |
| 19:13.56 | Bor_Ed | the sys load on mv and such operations is pretty clear ... |
| 19:14.02 | simonrvn | even on a slow scsi bus the rest of the system dosn't go wonky... |
| 19:14.15 | Bor_Ed | and both ports are on same chip here (still the beige g3 :) |
| 19:14.16 | simonrvn | yes it is |
| 19:14.22 | simonrvn | :) |
| 19:14.54 | simonrvn | i can see why people go for stuff like sata |
| 19:14.57 | Bor_Ed | I was asking of possible price drops from pegasos board importer today but he said no go :/ |
| 19:15.04 | simonrvn | :( |
| 19:15.06 | Bor_Ed | sata is even worse than pata |
| 19:15.11 | simonrvn | oh yeh? |
| 19:15.22 | Bor_Ed | and 1 device/bus |
| 19:15.28 | simonrvn | thought it might get closer to what scsi is |
| 19:15.32 | simonrvn | eeew |
| 19:15.36 | Bor_Ed | sata is completely cpu based |
| 19:15.43 | simonrvn | O_O |
| 19:15.48 | Bor_Ed | pata at least has some brains on controllers too |
| 19:15.49 | simonrvn | stupid then |
| 19:15.53 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 19:15.54 | Bor_Ed | (not much but some) |
| 19:16.08 | simonrvn | and you can get off-cpu controllers too |
| 19:16.11 | Bor_Ed | pretty much similar diff as firewire and usb |
| 19:16.32 | Bor_Ed | the standalone controllers are pile of $$$ and some organs you have |
| 19:16.36 | simonrvn | i don't know the diff. between fw and usb, =) |
| 19:16.49 | simonrvn | one's faster ;p |
| 19:16.59 | Bor_Ed | usb is software controlled, fw suprisingly is from HW |
| 19:17.13 | simonrvn | ah, ok. |
| 19:17.30 | Bor_Ed | don't you notice a tiny hang everytime you hook up a usb device to sys ? |
| 19:17.44 | simonrvn | yeh, that'd make a difference |
| 19:17.55 | simonrvn | no :). don't have usb ;) |
| 19:18.31 | Bor_Ed | gah |
| 19:18.50 | Bor_Ed | I have noname 4 external, 1 internal usb 2.0 pci card here for mouse and gadgets :D |
| 19:18.53 | simonrvn | almost got an usb optical mouse the other day, but got a used ps2 mouse instead |
| 19:19.04 | simonrvn | whoah |
| 19:19.10 | Bor_Ed | suprisingly worked after insert without hacking :D |
| 19:19.28 | simonrvn | i was thinking of getting a couple of usb cards |
| 19:19.37 | Bor_Ed | mockos required usb driver removal before it managed to boot but linux works at full speed to mp3 stick |
| 19:19.41 | simonrvn | (one for me, one for wife) |
| 19:20.02 | Bor_Ed | I have rat, cam, cell phone and mp3 stick connected to usb, every single one works like a charm |
| 19:20.13 | simonrvn | heh |
| 19:20.35 | Curalton | rat? |
| 19:20.36 | Bor_Ed | cam is still a bit glitchy but I think it's because of gphoto2 app |
| 19:20.40 | simonrvn | i have no use for a cell phone or mp3 anything, but a cam and mouse would be neat |
| 19:20.45 | Bor_Ed | Curalton: mouse :) |
| 19:20.52 | Curalton | doh |
| 19:20.57 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 19:21.23 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: I got the mp3 stick 'cheap' and it's nice while riding to work and such |
| 19:21.59 | simonrvn | i bike around. i'm not going to listen to anything except the traffic ;) |
| 19:22.40 | Bor_Ed | I ride scootah (when it runs :) around 30-50 km/day |
| 19:22.56 | simonrvn | nice. solar powered? ;p |
| 19:23.05 | Bor_Ed | 49cc 2-stroke :D |
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| 19:25.14 | simonrvn | scooter is certainly less of a hassle than a fucking car :) |
| 19:25.49 | Bor_Ed | amen... though mine is about finished so it just stops while riding and sometimes refuses to start and all such joys |
| 19:25.59 | simonrvn | :/ |
| 19:26.07 | Bor_Ed | but it's fun on rush hour traffic and doesn't eat much gas |
| 19:26.34 | simonrvn | i moved my desktop from my power tower pro to this x86. my pt pro is "happier" for it |
| 19:26.37 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 19:26.47 | Bor_Ed | I'm trying to get this one sold and get a new one all the time :) |
| 19:27.11 | simonrvn | heh :) |
| 19:27.16 | Bor_Ed | umm, you did what to pt pro ? :o |
| 19:27.44 | simonrvn | i had my desktop on the pt. just moved stuff off it |
| 19:27.54 | Bor_Ed | aww |
| 19:28.20 | simonrvn | less load on it, it's more responsive now |
| 19:28.38 | Bor_Ed | ahh, still runs services ? |
| 19:28.46 | simonrvn | yup |
| 19:29.00 | Bor_Ed | I have dedicated 4400/200 for services here :D |
| 19:29.06 | Bor_Ed | 80 megs ram and all |
| 19:29.26 | simonrvn | 512 on the pt, 128 on this thing |
| 19:29.46 | Bor_Ed | I don't have apache/sql running |
| 19:29.57 | simonrvn | i do... i need the ram ;) |
| 19:30.05 | Bor_Ed | yea... |
| 19:30.20 | simonrvn | plus slapd, that's a hog too, with bdb backend |
| 19:30.36 | simonrvn | ...but it's zippy ;) |
| 19:30.54 | Bor_Ed | I've been trying to buy toshiba libretto 100ct from one seller on local auction site but buggr doesn't seem to agree on the price, it'd make nice desktop for me to run wireless but noo |
| 19:30.57 | simonrvn | brb, gotta get dinner |
| 19:31.05 | Bor_Ed | have a good one :) |
| 19:31.10 | simonrvn | sure. good luck with that |
| 19:32.29 | simonrvn | it's nice to have a separate desktop box... :) |
| 19:37.35 | Bor_Ed | yup :D |
| 19:39.06 | simonrvn | re |
| 19:39.16 | simonrvn | now to wait for it to bake =) |
| 19:41.22 | Bor_Ed | aww :D |
| 19:41.37 | Bor_Ed | some microwave pizza ? :P |
| 19:43.10 | simonrvn | no, oven :). "greek". feta cheese, veggies |
| 19:43.23 | simonrvn | with some srpouts on the side |
| 19:43.26 | simonrvn | spr* |
| 19:44.41 | Bor_Ed | mmm |
| 20:00.53 | jla | We have debconf!!! :) |
| 20:01.20 | jla | So, I think it's safe to say that if you only have an ide drive in a beige G3 you need to use BootX |
| 20:03.21 | jla | putting a 4g segate scsi drive in place of the zip drive worked great. D-I did all the work, including properly setting OF. |
| 20:03.22 | Bor_Ed | jla: no news there... though I managed to get quik to work on ide once too, until the buggr OF went nuts |
| 20:03.52 | jla | Bor_Ed it's just that I started with that almost 24 hours ago... |
| 20:04.11 | jla | (trying to get quik to work w/ IDE) |
| 20:04.32 | Bor_Ed | it actually works, just required _some_ params for boot command |
| 20:04.50 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: you have the thingy I sent back then there ? |
| 20:05.48 | jla | Bor_Ed the D-I didn't set the OF env variables right and I couldnt guess the right combination. I tried every combination I found a reference to, and always got "can't OPEN" |
| 20:06.29 | Bor_Ed | I had it working for a while... and then bombed the setup with cmd+option+p+r when the buggr refused to boot |
| 20:07.18 | Bor_Ed | though I've learned to keep mockos partition alive on HD anyway to fix the OF from screw ups it has every now and then |
| 20:09.06 | simonrvn | around *somewhere* |
| 20:10.12 | simonrvn | had to stick 90% of ~/ into an ~/UNSORTED dir so i can clean up ;) |
| 20:10.51 | simonrvn | my old ~/ is mountable via nfs... |
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| 20:11.57 | Bor_Ed | aww |
| 20:12.23 | Bor_Ed | oh well, it didn't work for last one to try the same settings so prolly won't work now either |
| 20:23.13 | simonrvn | i was thinking of something crazy.... like taking some 4 mb eeprom chips, and replacing the macrom hardcoded chips with something flashable (with the macrom too). so that we could update OF on these buggers |
| 20:23.49 | simonrvn | would take massive soldering skillz i suspect |
| 20:24.16 | simonrvn | multi-layered boards and shit... |
| 20:26.05 | Bor_Ed | naa, the extra rom slot on macs require pretty much as much soldering skills as making own cables |
| 20:26.28 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 20:26.41 | Bor_Ed | soj and plcc chips are as easy to solder as mount through... trust me, I did that job for ~6 months |
| 20:26.54 | simonrvn | i was thinking of completely replacing it, not an add-on though |
| 20:26.59 | simonrvn | ok |
| 20:27.36 | Bor_Ed | thhmm, isn't the OF on a stick too ? don't recall right now since I haven't opened the box in ages :) |
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| 20:28.34 | simonrvn | i don't think so, not on oldworlds.... iirc... it's in the same chip as the macrom is i think. could be wrong |
| 20:30.32 | Bor_Ed | grmbl, got to bring box down tomorrow and check |
| 20:31.17 | simonrvn | wow, most everything is in ram on the pt pro. just 3 mb of swap used. nice :) |
| 20:32.38 | Bor_Ed | what's the load on the pt ? |
| 20:32.52 | simonrvn | 1.02 0.88 0.53 |
| 20:33.03 | simonrvn | just ran update on .deb repo |
| 20:33.07 | Bor_Ed | sounds ok to me :o |
| 20:33.29 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 20:34.09 | simonrvn | Mem: 513992k total, 504376k used, 9616k free, 3948k buffers |
| 20:34.09 | simonrvn | Swap: 511992k total, 3600k used, 508392k free, 159640k cached |
| 20:34.47 | Bor_Ed | sudo swapoff -a && sudo swapon -a <<-- clears even the rest of the swap |
| 20:35.00 | simonrvn | yeh but i won't ;) |
| 20:35.11 | Bor_Ed | wimp :D |
| 20:35.28 | simonrvn | no, cautious :) |
| 20:35.34 | Bor_Ed | bs :P |
| 20:35.38 | simonrvn | haha |
| 20:36.02 | Bor_Ed | chickeeeeeen ! |
| 20:36.17 | simonrvn | pok pok |
| 20:36.23 | Bor_Ed | lol |
| 20:36.38 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 20:36.50 | Bor_Ed | I tend to clear the swap here on server every now and then when there's not much load on |
| 20:37.02 | Bor_Ed | keeps the sys running pretty nicely imo |
| 20:38.54 | simonrvn | yeh.. i'm not too worried about 3 mb though. used to be pretty bad with my desktop on it as well, averaging 200 mb used... |
| 20:39.19 | Bor_Ed | that has got to give some hit to performance too :) |
| 20:42.02 | Bor_Ed | hmm, hashing sha1 on gnutella takes some time when seti@home is running in the backround |
| 20:42.25 | simonrvn | yeh, it did. now it should be a lot better |
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| 20:43.58 | Bor_Ed | you wouldn't happen to know if 4400/200 eats peecee dimms ? I think it has edo or fpm but that's about it |
| 20:46.20 | simonrvn | they're different here. dunno about the 4400 |
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| 20:49.10 | Bor_Ed | hmm, haven't had reply from local apple dealer nor from apple finland either |
| 20:49.23 | simonrvn | the little slots are different (the ones on the sticks too) |
| 20:49.31 | jla | what's the small Apple partition for that the guided partitioning tool makes |
| 20:49.53 | simonrvn | bootstrap? not needed on the beige g3 |
| 20:50.38 | Bor_Ed | apple_partition_map thingy is required, everything else can be scrapped |
| 20:51.31 | jla | so if I had done ide-only, could I have copied the 8.1 System folder from disk tools to that partition somehow? (the Disk Tools disk didn't mount it) |
| 20:51.46 | jla | and then used it for bootx? |
| 20:52.56 | Bor_Ed | there is minimal disk tools floppy with bootx and stuffit expander somewhere online too, that's enough to install linux |
| 20:52.59 | jla | nm it's the apple partition map |
| 20:53.38 | Bor_Ed | apple partition map is same thing as wintel file allocation table, you pretty much want that if you want to use the disk |
| 20:53.40 | jla | do I need the a_p_m anywhere but the boot volume? |
| 20:53.51 | Bor_Ed | ^ |
| 20:55.57 | Bor_Ed | you want that on every native drive... mtools can handle peecee drives and possibly the deb built kernel too if it has pc partition map built in |
| 21:03.06 | jla | Bor_Ed Ok, I just noticed that the guided partition tool auto-created them and wanted to know if I needed to figure out how to make them for my other two drives that will only be accessed from Debian. |
| 21:03.47 | jla | thanks for the tips. It's installing packages now, but I'll probably re-do the whole process again to do a different partition scheme. bbl |
| 21:03.53 | Bor_Ed | mac-fdisk can initialize partition maps (creat the a_p_m) |
| 21:04.09 | jla | Bor_Ed thanks, I'll check the man page |
| 21:04.22 | Bor_Ed | no problemo, happy hacking |
| 21:07.35 | simonrvn | 'i', in mac-fdisk. i don't know why you'd want to wipe the partition map though... |
| 21:08.03 | Bor_Ed | when the drive is moved from some sucky arch (read peecee) |
| 21:08.36 | simonrvn | well, restate, get rid of that map, and replace it with a crappy peecee table... |
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| 21:08.47 | jc-denton | hi all |
| 21:08.49 | jc-denton | anybody here? |
| 21:08.53 | simonrvn | no |
| 21:08.58 | jc-denton | linapple:~# slabtop |
| 21:08.59 | jc-denton | unrecognizable slabinfo version |
| 21:09.04 | jc-denton | wtf? |
| 21:09.08 | Bor_Ed | ~64 persons and ya |
| 21:09.12 | simonrvn | ENOCONTEXT |
| 21:09.15 | jc-denton | Linux linapple 2.6.11.7 #1 Wed Apr 20 21:38:18 CEST 2005 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 21:09.49 | jc-denton | does anybody have an idea why this is? |
| 21:09.56 | Bor_Ed | sorry, 62, apt and ravenbird are bots |
| 21:10.00 | simonrvn | /exec -o cat /etc/debian_version |
| 21:10.08 | simonrvn | jc-denton: ^^^ |
| 21:10.23 | jc-denton | unstable |
| 21:10.33 | jc-denton | err |
| 21:10.34 | jc-denton | testing |
| 21:10.45 | jc-denton | "3.1" |
| 21:10.53 | jc-denton | it's running on a mac mini |
| 21:11.03 | Bor_Ed | sarge and sid are both at 3.1 currently |
| 21:12.08 | jc-denton | it's sarge |
| 21:12.59 | simonrvn | just wondering since the ubuntu version does the same, and sid's works |
| 21:13.34 | jc-denton | lol wtf? |
| 21:13.59 | simonrvn | been spending too much time on AIM lately? ;p |
| 21:14.08 | jc-denton | nope |
| 21:15.37 | jc-denton | so i just installed the version from unstable, and it worked |
| 21:15.39 | jc-denton | simonrvn: thx! |
| 21:24.38 | Bor_Ed | hmm, directfb mode on mplayer doesn't blank this tft but doesn't show image either :o |
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