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| 01:51.56 | jla | I am having trouble getting the sound working on this Beige G3. I think I heard it make a noise once. During the install process I accidentaly invoked nvsetvol (which never returned) so it doesn't even beep on boot. (I don't know if that's a related issue or not) |
| 01:52.12 | jla | I'm use to installing alsa, running alsaconf and having it all work out. |
| 01:52.21 | jla | (on x86 systems) |
| 01:54.44 | jla | Any suggestions? My searching has been fruitless so far. |
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| 04:05.49 | jla | My mac is still mute. Should I try hammering at dmasound_pmac, or alsa? |
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| 04:19.12 | xbaez | jla, alsa works fine with earphones |
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| 04:27.26 | jla | xbaez ok. but not through the built-in speaker? |
| 04:38.18 | jla | is nvsetvol just for the boot chime, or all volume? |
| 04:38.28 | jla | the command never returns. |
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| 04:52.42 | jla | nm on nvsetvol hanging; bug 304493. I guess I'll wait/hope for that to enter the archive, or pull that version down if 3.1 release first. |
| 05:01.24 | jla | dmsound_pmac wors fine with the headphone jack. Alsa works fine with that as well. |
| 05:01.36 | jla | xbaez thanks for that tip. |
| 05:01.59 | jla | I guess I'll find some external speakers, unless there's a painless way of getting the built-in speaker to work. |
| 05:02.54 | simonrvn | should work if it's not unplugged ;) |
| 05:05.00 | jla | simonrvn I didn't think of that. Maybe I bumped the connector off inside (I hadn't noticed).. That's probably why I don't get a startup chime :) |
| 05:05.07 | jla | here I thought it was nvsetvol |
| 05:07.35 | jla | brb |
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| 05:10.10 | jla | they're plugged in :( |
| 05:10.23 | jla | well, it's plugged in. only one speaker |
| 05:22.29 | jla | Maybe the wire on the speaker end is loose. I didn't seem like it but I didn't take the speaker housing off. |
| 05:23.02 | jla | I don't know if this means anything, but every time after I run alsaconf, alsamixer shows the PC Speaker is muted and set to volume 0. |
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| 05:23.20 | jla | I do get the startup chime through the headphone jack. |
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| 05:55.50 | simonrvn | jla: turn it up |
| 05:56.00 | simonrvn | defaults to mute |
| 06:05.51 | jla | simonrvn I did. unmuted and full volume, no sound :( |
| 06:06.08 | jla | circus linux and mad bomber sound better on headphones :) |
| 06:06.16 | simonrvn | heh |
| 06:07.14 | jla | If three isn't some OF setting for using the speaker, I'll have to look at the wires more closely. The front speaker was working when I started this process, so I've done something to it. |
| 06:08.04 | jla | is it easier to install on a 7500 than on the beige G3? |
| 06:08.09 | simonrvn | i see. well, it isn't complicated, like trying to figure out a way to replace the MacROM and OF on them... |
| 06:08.19 | simonrvn | generally is |
| 06:08.34 | jla | same trick, install / on internal scsi? |
| 06:08.41 | simonrvn | all scsi, earlier firmware, but less buggy (for some stuff) |
| 06:08.47 | jla | good |
| 06:08.53 | simonrvn | though the bus is slower |
| 06:09.48 | simonrvn | so it's a trade-off for the old wolrld stuff.. |
| 06:09.50 | jla | true. |
| 06:10.28 | jla | is dri/hardware 3d acceleration possible with stock Debian 3.1 drivers on the G3? |
| 06:10.52 | jla | I'm pretty happy with how this has turned out. There are some other macs I'm going to try installing Debian on :) |
| 06:10.53 | simonrvn | world* |
| 06:10.53 | simonrvn | 2grr. brb... |
| 06:13.21 | simonrvn | uh, don't recall (h/w 3d accel). |
| 06:13.26 | simonrvn | cool |
| 06:14.43 | simonrvn | brb |
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| 06:16.25 | simonrvn | aah, better |
| 06:17.09 | simonrvn | for some strange reason, irssi, starts acting like it's going to freeze up. and it does, but for a seemingly random time |
| 06:17.27 | jla | well even without 3d accel it's OK, lots of 2d games and stuff from "Debian Junior". The other thing I'm interested in trying is an MacOS emulator to run some old games. |
| 06:17.57 | jla | wierd. I'm new to irssi. I've had one session running for a few weeks on a low-volume channel on another server. |
| 06:17.59 | simonrvn | MOL |
| 06:18.40 | jla | I saw that mentioned somewhere else as well. The last thing I tried was basalisk forever ago. |
| 06:19.13 | jla | I was trying from x86 then though. |
| 06:31.32 | jla | I'll give MOL a go, and basilisk2, since it looks like I need that to attempt to run Dark Castle (if my disk isn't dead, probably is like my Chipwits disk :( ) and other such MacOS 6.x / Mac Plus era stuff. |
| 06:31.49 | simonrvn | wow :) |
| 06:40.54 | jla | Ever play Dark Castle or Beyond Dark Castle? |
| 06:42.19 | jla | I've got little eyeball guys going 'nya nya nya nya' in my minds eye now :) |
| 06:46.25 | simonrvn | dark castle a few times |
| 06:48.42 | jla | cool :) |
| 06:48.51 | jla | how about chipwits? http://mac.the-underdogs.org/index.php?show=game&id=1119 |
| 06:49.16 | simonrvn | nope |
| 06:52.59 | jla | someday I'd like to write or see a gui front end to gnu robots with the 'ibol' programming interface. |
| 06:53.32 | jla | the noises and stuff on chipwits were, to me, classic. |
| 06:53.49 | jla | Anyway, thank you for all the help. I need to get some sleep. |
| 06:57.49 | simonrvn | 'night |
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| 08:31.45 | mort | do you think it would be possible to boot AIX on my iBook? |
| 08:32.19 | simonrvn | good question. doubt it |
| 08:32.27 | simonrvn | maybe in emulation |
| 08:34.51 | mort | I guess the most tricky part would be getting it to boot from OF |
| 08:35.02 | mort | I'll try with pearpc |
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| 09:15.01 | BeTa | I've seen yesterday night a new client for MSN, Jabber, ... which was running on MacOSX (but also on GNU/Linux and Windows) and which was supporting MSN webcams |
| 09:15.18 | BeTa | it was licensed under Apache license |
| 09:15.29 | BeTa | and it seemed to be recent |
| 09:15.33 | BeTa | any idea ? |
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| 09:35.33 | mort | BeTa: maybe amsn? where did you see that? |
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| 09:44.51 | BeTa | nope... it's mercury, i found it again... but that's not interresting : closed source code :c( |
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| 09:47.27 | Q-FUNK | BeTa: adium? |
| 09:53.36 | BeTa | nope... I've missed my references. it was mercury |
| 09:53.43 | BeTa | but it is closed source |
| 09:53.59 | BeTa | so, it has nothing to do here nor in my computers |
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| 12:13.54 | befree | hi all |
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| 14:36.22 | marchino | hola |
| 14:36.55 | marchino | someone of you have bootsplash in debian ppc? |
| 14:37.13 | marchino | does bootsplash work in ppc? |
| 14:49.23 | mort | I had it once |
| 14:49.23 | bender-RW- | i never boot, i only open and close the lid ;-) |
| 14:50.23 | mort | marchino: did you check bootsplash.de? they have a bunch of patches |
| 14:50.35 | mort | but not all of them work with ppc |
| 14:50.58 | marchino | no? why? |
| 14:51.40 | mort | because the original bootsplash uses vesa, and macs don't support vesa, iirc |
| 14:52.08 | mort | I'd reccommend bender-RW-s method ;-) |
| 14:52.24 | mort | you'll never find a cool bootsplash background anyway |
| 14:52.59 | marchino | bennder-RW-s method? |
| 14:53.22 | marchino | waht is it? |
| 14:53.30 | bender-RW- | not booting :) |
| 14:53.50 | marchino | aaaaahhhhh |
| 14:53.56 | marchino | mmm |
| 14:54.06 | mort | the suspend-light is way more fun than bootsplash |
| 14:54.16 | marchino | so so |
| 14:54.56 | marchino | vesa really don't work in ppc? |
| 14:55.13 | marchino | i did know it |
| 14:55.25 | mort | yeah, but there are non-vesa versions |
| 14:56.09 | mort | but it's much work finding a correct patch, and if you change to a new kernel it starts all over again |
| 14:56.09 | marchino | what are the difference of boosplash.org and bootsplash.de? |
| 14:56.12 | thebug | if you wanted a pretty bootup image, you should have just stuck with OS X |
| 14:56.16 | mort | it's really not worth it |
| 14:56.29 | johill | just install the splashey package |
| 14:56.31 | thebug | even on x86 where it's easy |
| 14:56.41 | johill | uh. splashy |
| 14:58.37 | thebug | that's only in experimental, btw |
| 14:59.16 | johill | still less intrusive than patching around all the time :) |
| 15:00.33 | marchino | yes |
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| 19:14.54 | netman | hi |
| 19:15.45 | netman | i hav a little question about vga out on ibooks |
| 19:16.24 | netman | it works fine the first time i startup X |
| 19:16.24 | netman | but if i restart them |
| 19:16.37 | netman | then, both screens start to make vertical lines |
| 19:16.41 | netman | is this normal ? |
| 19:17.58 | netman | no error i can see |
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