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| 07:58.34 | simonrvn | tre |
| 07:58.36 | simonrvn | re |
| 07:58.37 | simonrvn | even |
| 08:00.11 | Q-FUNK | :) |
| 08:01.28 | simonrvn | hiya doing? |
| 08:02.58 | Q-FUNK | pretty busy with organizing Debian Day, which is the opening day of Debconf: http://www.debconf.org/debconf5/about/debianday |
| 08:03.34 | simonrvn | cool. going ok so far? |
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| 08:20.25 | Q-FUNK | yeah, except that some of the usual BOFHs and divas decided to drop out of the organization, which makes keeping a schedule rather difficult |
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| 08:39.09 | simonrvn | oh wonderful... though typical |
| 08:39.37 | simonrvn | (please not <sarcasm> around 'wonderful' ;) |
| 08:39.42 | simonrvn | note* |
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| 08:41.47 | simonrvn | hi |
| 08:50.24 | one_2_one | any thing better than gplflash-0.4.13 for view swf ?(in ppc) |
| 08:57.38 | simonrvn | probably not. flash sucks, not just on ppc ;) |
| 08:58.23 | one_2_one | k |
| 08:58.25 | one_2_one | ;) |
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| 09:52.05 | ErRandir | am trying to get serial connection working on a beige Mac G3. Does it require a null modem or not? |
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| 12:53.40 | Q-FUNK | http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu.html |
| 13:08.14 | simonrvn | ErRandir: depends what you want to do |
| 13:12.56 | ErRandir | run the g3 headless (not keyboard+monitor), put console on the serial line to a host PC |
| 13:13.04 | ErRandir | same as my sparc really |
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| 13:28.48 | sorny | would there be any reason i couldn't get deb woody on a powermac 5400/120? |
| 13:32.29 | danamania | shouldn't be |
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| 16:15.00 | ioops | hi |
| 16:28.02 | _rene_ | Q-FUNK: wrt your question a few days ago, I just bought the tickets to HEL :) |
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| 16:40.37 | uzi | hey |
| 16:40.46 | uzi | is there support for the apple g5 yet? |
| 16:41.51 | blk | hey is it a known bug (hw or sw) that a TiBook just turns itself off (no problem getting it on again by pressing the button)? (it's not a power outage as the battery is plugged in and fully charged, nor do other device show any sign of it) i've had this sometimes alredy (not too often)..time's completely random - kernel log shows nothing - kinda weird :/ |
| 16:41.57 | Curalton | you bet, torvalds is running one uzi |
| 16:43.23 | uzi | Curalton: see, that's what I thought... some dude at work is saying that he's unable to install sarge on one |
| 16:43.53 | Curalton | hmm, /topic surely applies to the g5 :) |
| 16:44.11 | blk | sarge is using a 2.4 kernel by default which to my knowledge doesn't support G5 - pass the option to use 2.6kernel at the installation |
| 16:44.54 | _rene_ | wrong. |
| 16:44.59 | _rene_ | default on powerpc is 2.6 |
| 16:45.15 | _rene_ | default on i386 is 2.4, yes, but not on powerpc |
| 16:45.22 | blk | _rene_: that i didn't know - thanks :) |
| 16:45.25 | _rene_ | iirc |
| 16:45.39 | uzi | "I got our PowerMac G5's in.. I tried to use |
| 16:45.40 | uzi | sarge install of debian but it fails with all options. |
| 16:45.42 | uzi | install, install-2.4 install-power4, etc.." |
| 16:45.56 | uzi | "Opps: kernel access of bad area, sig 11 [#1]" |
| 16:46.13 | ErRandir | iirc install-power4 is for the G5 |
| 16:46.34 | Curalton | power4 is for ppc970s or so, which is != G5 iirc |
| 16:46.42 | uzi | I'm sure he was at the point of trying anything by then |
| 16:47.02 | uzi | power4 == 74xx, no? |
| 16:47.11 | _rene_ | no, 74xx is G4 |
| 16:47.12 | Curalton | power != ppc |
| 16:47.19 | _rene_ | G4 != power4 |
| 16:47.24 | uzi | ah |
| 16:47.39 | uzi | yay marketing :) |
| 16:47.40 | Curalton | uzi: id try one of the nightly sarge netinstalls, or maybe even sid netinstall, or just plain google :) |
| 16:47.46 | Curalton | uzi: hah :) |
| 16:47.52 | _rene_ | and welll |
| 16:48.01 | _rene_ | power4 is for G5s, too |
| 16:48.18 | _rene_ | read the fine package description of kernel-image.2.6.8-power4 :) |
| 16:48.27 | uzi | Curalton: yeah, already doing the google thing... |
| 16:48.27 | uzi | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status |
| 16:48.36 | uzi | that page doesn't make things look promising |
| 16:49.00 | blk | you could try an ubuntu image see if that works.. |
| 16:52.28 | uzi | they claim to support G5s |
| 16:52.34 | uzi | at least on that page |
| 16:52.48 | _rene_ | uh, err, and? they use d-i, too. they have -power4 kernels too, |
| 16:53.03 | _rene_ | just try it with Debian first. the boot option was told already |
| 16:53.11 | uzi | he's on the other side of the country which is why I can do no more than give him links and advice |
| 16:53.20 | _rene_ | if you want discuss this further, open a #ubuntuppc ;) |
| 16:53.33 | uzi | rene: I suggested that in the email |
| 16:56.00 | blk | there's #ubuntu-ppc with topic "#ubuntu-ppc is pretty dead" :) one admin awaying inside |
| 16:56.48 | uzi | hah |
| 16:56.54 | _rene_ | blk: heh |
| 16:57.06 | _rene_ | blk: well, if people go there it isn't anymore :) |
| 16:57.09 | uzi | rene: so you're sending me to Siberia? :) |
| 16:57.21 | _rene_ | blk: and we get rid of the ubuntuians ;) |
| 16:57.28 | blk | i'm a ubuntu/ppc user.. but #ubuntu's too busy for me ;) |
| 16:58.05 | blk | but i've been a long time sid user (and my server's still a sargie) so i guess i'm allowed in here ;) |
| 16:58.36 | uzi | I'm pretty much only running sarge these days |
| 16:59.11 | _rene_ | my development workstation is sarge/i386 + sid working chroot/i386 and my laptop (iBook G4) is sarge |
| 16:59.13 | blk | for me as a desktop it's too old..i prefer bleeding edge (but on a laptop gentoo is no good so the compromise is ubuntu breezy) |
| 16:59.49 | blk | ...with some svn-trees over the packages ;) |
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| 17:55.50 | _rene_ | does thrm_adtsomething have a file in /proc? |
| 17:58.19 | _rene_ | hmm. doesn't seem. but in /sys it seems |
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