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| 00:17.14 | elz | what would you think of that: "debian 2.2r7ppc 3cdrom release is the best release for a powermac 7200/120 144mb ram 2gb hd" |
| 00:19.38 | elz | aint quik is a kind of lilo? |
| 00:23.17 | demon | yeah, kinda |
| 00:23.26 | demon | it's a boot loader |
| 00:23.38 | elz | how is it being configured? |
| 00:23.42 | demon | you're gonna need some sort of boot loader to start the kernel |
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| 00:23.55 | demon | with a text config file, I suppose... |
| 00:23.59 | elz | I use quik already (got the tiny iso release) |
| 00:24.11 | elz | deamon: no, for real? |
| 00:24.16 | elz | I meant, what is his config file |
| 00:24.59 | demon | /etc/quik.conf, iirc |
| 00:25.01 | elz | like lilo used a lilo.conf file, where you can set the display property of the console |
| 00:25.04 | elz | woops |
| 00:25.17 | demon | I'd have to connect a monitor to my 7500 and check it |
| 00:25.18 | elz | I wanted to delete that later line |
| 00:25.19 | elz | thanks |
| 00:26.08 | elz | quik.conf... whas quite obvious :/ |
| 00:27.06 | elz | I think, if that box can run macos9.1 no prob, it can run kde 2 too |
| 00:28.46 | elz | l8r |
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| 01:09.16 | mrwick | well, I went and got a Proxim Harmony for my PowerBook g4 |
| 01:09.58 | mrwick | good stuff! got cardmgr to recognize it . . now I just have to figure out xsupplicant |
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| 01:10.43 | sosagnu | need help wit airport card |
| 01:11.03 | mrwick | sosagnu : if it's airport extreme, we all do |
| 01:11.52 | sosagnu | no its about airport card(11mb) on a ibook2 |
| 01:12.06 | sosagnu | the problem is that in my house |
| 01:12.14 | sosagnu | they changed to WPA |
| 01:12.40 | sosagnu | and i dont know how to get it work it seems that wpa_supplicant i cant get it to work |
| 01:13.30 | sosagnu | any one know who to get WPA for Airport |
| 01:14.01 | sosagnu | ?? |
| 01:14.28 | mrwick | sosagnu : it appears everyone who normally answers questions here is out right now.. |
| 01:14.35 | mrwick | I've been here a bit.. and it's dead |
| 01:14.44 | mrwick | maybe it's the weather :-) |
| 01:25.26 | sosagnu | hey you know how to disable the the tap mode click from the touch pad |
| 01:25.31 | sosagnu | ?? |
| 01:25.41 | sosagnu | thats a thing i cant disable |
| 01:31.13 | mrwick | me neither... it's pretty annoying |
| 01:37.55 | sosagnu | ok |
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| 01:53.30 | treyh0 | trackpad notap |
| 01:53.37 | treyh0 | heh |
| 02:01.17 | mrwick | treyh0 : well, at least I got it ;-b |
| 02:02.10 | treyh0 | yeah |
| 02:02.10 | treyh0 | hehe |
| 02:02.39 | mrwick | oh, damn..of course! I _knew_ that. |
| 02:05.29 | mrwick | pardon my swear. |
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| 02:09.37 | belteshazzar | http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=html.alert |
| 02:09.42 | belteshazzar | is there truth in this article? |
| 02:13.08 | treyh0 | belteshazzar: if there is, a whole hell of a lot of apple users will be upset they paid 3 times as much for similar hardwaree |
| 02:13.11 | treyh0 | lol |
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| 10:26.53 | delire | i assume you've all seen this: http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede |
| 10:27.45 | delire | seems to more than rumour this time. unlikely to be x86 albeit. but then again darwin has always had both x86 and ppc targets |
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| 11:11.21 | Bor_Ed | sad though, 1 more alternative arch is going to be buried if apple really moves |
| 11:12.24 | delire | Bor_Ed: intel will likely get into the PPC range. |
| 11:12.40 | delire | Bor_Ed: me, i can't wait for Linux on Cell ;) |
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| 12:03.09 | Bor_Ed | linux on cell... hmm, the ibm demo board ran linux suprisingly |
| 12:06.40 | demon | pretty cool if you ask me |
| 12:07.00 | Bor_Ed | if the buggr just would be decently priced |
| 12:07.20 | Bor_Ed | (== close to peecee pricing range) |
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| 12:32.20 | blacking | hello |
| 12:33.04 | Bor_Ed | afternoon |
| 12:33.07 | blacking | please does anyone here know how set up yaboot?? |
| 12:33.26 | Bor_Ed | change the conf and run /sbin/ybin -v |
| 12:33.51 | blacking | oh yes sure.. |
| 12:34.27 | blacking | i'll start at boot with a USb drive.. |
| 12:34.59 | blacking | i can seen the devices at the boot.. |
| 12:35.27 | Bor_Ed | you have linux on usb stick ? |
| 12:36.12 | blacking | i hope to do this .. |
| 12:36.49 | blacking | but i have also an old HD usb .. |
| 12:37.39 | Bor_Ed | don't know if OF will allow you to boot from usb... I pretty much doubt that though |
| 12:39.16 | blacking | at the moment, when boot my pb, i can seen my USB volume on the list.. |
| 12:40.59 | blacking | for apple is possible, exist a brief technote .. |
| 12:42.16 | Bor_Ed | hmm, have you tried googling if someone has done that already ? |
| 12:44.22 | blacking | yes, there are some how to on line, and also brief documents.. |
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| 12:49.56 | demon | anybody know of a way to convert a G3 powermac's board for rackmounting? |
| 12:52.11 | blacking | no sorry |
| 13:21.58 | Bor_Ed | g3 goes to any atx case afaik, connectors are just a bit weirdly placed |
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| 13:33.47 | demon | and the power connector is different... it's a 24-pin molex instead of the ATX 20-pin |
| 13:34.06 | Bor_Ed | at least beige g3 desktop has atx connector |
| 13:36.57 | demon | hm... well, I'll have to look again when I get the serial port for my B/W G3 |
| 13:37.05 | demon | maybe I'm just confused |
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| 13:49.09 | Bor_Ed | b&w has different board |
| 13:49.45 | Bor_Ed | this one has onboard scsi-2 connector among other thingies b%w doesn't but this one doesn't have usb |
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| 14:16.52 | Q-FUNK | seems I finally got my dual-chroot pbuilder working. |
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| 15:14.13 | myXtie | talk about bsd dieing I just went to a powerpc funeral today , I feel sick |
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| 15:15.05 | Bor_Ed | there's still mai and pegasos selling ppc |
| 15:15.37 | myXtie | freescale is $ |
| 15:16.02 | myXtie | yes I like the new pegasos boards |
| 15:16.20 | Bor_Ed | I'd like one too but 645 eur... a bit too much for me |
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| 16:38.37 | ioops | hi |
| 16:56.16 | assassin | Why do I have this strange feeling Sarge is going to be delayed again |
| 16:56.39 | Bor_Ed | well, it'll get ready 'in december' :D |
| 16:56.52 | assassin | haha |
| 16:57.22 | Bor_Ed | they just haven't had a hit on lottery yet which december |
| 16:57.51 | assassin | Sure would brighten up my day if apple switches to craptel |
| 16:58.03 | Bor_Ed | that'd do too |
| 16:58.19 | assassin | :( |
| 16:58.22 | Bor_Ed | well, got to start building own boards from quad mpc5200's then |
| 16:58.57 | assassin | I'd definitley be down for that |
| 16:59.26 | Bor_Ed | shouldn't be impossible either... and chips go at $25/ea |
| 16:59.42 | assassin | that's really cheep |
| 17:00.02 | Bor_Ed | in quantity of 1000... it ain't much cheaper than mpc7447A is |
| 17:00.40 | assassin | Isn't there some ppc mobo plans already out ther |
| 17:03.12 | Bor_Ed | mai and pegasos ... haven't seen any 'free' boards though |
| 17:03.17 | assassin | http://www.ethernut.de/ will happen |
| 17:03.29 | Bor_Ed | mai ships with schematics on cd and such at price of $3600 |
| 17:03.54 | Bor_Ed | ibm doesn't have 'decent' dev board at any reasonable price |
| 17:04.26 | assassin | I remember something like openppc |
| 17:06.09 | assassin | http://openppc.org/ |
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| 17:06.54 | Bor_Ed | ahh, pop |
| 17:07.24 | Bor_Ed | I pretty much doubt the up to date status on that though |
| 17:07.35 | assassin | hehe... it's a starting point ;) |
| 17:08.24 | Bor_Ed | well, take 74xx , marvell2 northbridge, about any peecee southbridge and some standard connectors/slots and that's it... no biggie :D |
| 17:08.53 | assassin | indeed |
| 17:09.01 | Bor_Ed | and on software side, u-boot and linux naturally |
| 17:09.16 | assassin | But, I'm still crossing my fingers for monday... |
| 17:09.21 | Bor_Ed | ? |
| 17:09.37 | aba | assassin: a lot of people do it currently. Well, we should know more in 3 hours time. |
| 17:09.50 | Bor_Ed | ahh, sarge delay |
| 17:10.12 | assassin | no... WWDC announcements |
| 17:10.56 | Bor_Ed | umm ? |
| 17:11.07 | assassin | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050603-4970.html |
| 17:11.49 | Bor_Ed | ahhh |
| 17:12.26 | Bor_Ed | I'd guess it's just that wintel is going to the low end/mass products and ppc will stay on the dtp and other real boxen |
| 17:14.21 | assassin | Yeah. I'm still thinking it's a ploy to fake out IBM |
| 17:14.38 | assassin | We'll know monday |
| 17:14.58 | Bor_Ed | well, ibm only makes 'g5' ... rest of the cpus come from freescale nowadays |
| 17:15.13 | assassin | Really? |
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| 17:15.36 | Bor_Ed | yup, g4's used on lappies are mpc74xx ones (nowadays freescale) |
| 17:15.55 | Bor_Ed | g3 was from ibm too and 60x cpus were from both |
| 17:17.22 | Bor_Ed | I'd be happy with mpc5200 |
| 17:18.11 | Bor_Ed | or http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/display.jsp?nodeId=093623&filePath=/media_center/news_releases/2004/ncsg/09-28-04_DUALPROC.htm&title=News%20Release :D |
| 17:18.19 | Bor_Ed | hmm, tiny url :) |
| 17:22.18 | Bor_Ed | http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?code=DRPPCDUALCORE direct link to products |
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| 17:37.22 | assassin | ooooo |
| 17:37.38 | assassin | those are sweet |
| 17:37.47 | Bor_Ed | my jaws dropped pretty down too when I saw the buggr first time :) |
| 17:38.29 | Bor_Ed | just that bga960 isn't possible to be soldered on my capabilities :I |
| 17:38.39 | Bor_Ed | and there's no adapter for such either |
| 17:46.28 | assassin | Yeah... I think they're beyond any human capabilities |
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| 18:17.31 | Bor_Ed | well, I did solder bgas on my previous job... |
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| 19:41.20 | Bor_Ed | http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2939 |
| 19:53.44 | Petro | Bor_Ed: Respect |
| 19:53.51 | Petro | that is hilarious |
| 20:08.24 | Bor_Ed | yup :D |
| 20:17.07 | simonrvn | it is funny |
| 20:21.10 | simonrvn | toast 6 (with jam, cereal, .... ) hehe |
| 20:23.02 | simonrvn | usb2 colonoscope |
| 20:31.27 | Bor_Ed | not my finding but I thought I should share the url :) |
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| 21:11.06 | cspan | hi! |
| 21:11.17 | cspan | where can i get the debian experimental repository? |
| 21:12.28 | simonrvn | if you need to ask you shouldn't use it</2 cents> |
| 21:13.01 | Q-FUNK | heh |
| 21:13.04 | cspan | i don't agree |
| 21:13.14 | simonrvn | of course you wouldn't |
| 21:13.32 | cspan | of course |
| 21:13.35 | cspan | hehe |
| 21:13.36 | cspan | but |
| 21:13.48 | cspan | i'm exploring linux |
| 21:14.06 | cspan | i would like to have kde 3.4 and a couple more things |
| 21:14.10 | simonrvn | use sarge. safer for a~s newbie |
| 21:14.12 | cspan | and they're not in unstable |
| 21:14.21 | simonrvn | s/a~s/a/ |
| 21:14.35 | Bor_Ed | kde 3.4 is on knoppix... debian based and installable to HD |
| 21:14.40 | simonrvn | it isn't in experimental afaik |
| 21:14.47 | cspan | i read otherwise |
| 21:15.00 | cspan | anyway, i cannot use knoppix |
| 21:15.19 | simonrvn | you need the pkg-kde deb source from alioth, plus you'd have to build it yourself from source + debain diff |
| 21:15.28 | simonrvn | debian* |
| 21:15.34 | cspan | ok, too hard |
| 21:15.42 | cspan | that was all! |
| 21:15.48 | cspan | i just wanted to know |
| 21:15.48 | cspan | :D |
| 21:15.52 | simonrvn | not really, but probably not what you had in mind ;) |
| 21:15.57 | Bor_Ed | you can use knoppix repos |
| 21:15.58 | cspan | no |
| 21:16.05 | cspan | Bor_Ed, for ppc? |
| 21:16.25 | Bor_Ed | I recall seeing knoppix for ppc too |
| 21:16.38 | Bor_Ed | and there's always ubuntu too |
| 21:16.42 | cspan | yeah, a very old, very buggy, very alpha thing |
| 21:17.00 | cspan | i heard ubuntu's repositories don't work well with debian |
| 21:17.01 | cspan | but |
| 21:17.22 | simonrvn | uh, different distros... of course not |
| 21:17.24 | Bor_Ed | well, like experimental would be non-buggy and non-alpha |
| 21:17.40 | cspan | Bor_Ed, i mean REALLY buggy |
| 21:17.43 | cspan | plus really old |
| 21:18.04 | cspan | but, don't worry |
| 21:18.07 | cspan | you gave me an idea |
| 21:18.11 | Bor_Ed | I've managed so far with deb side and I ain't moving from this any time soon |
| 21:18.25 | cspan | i think i can migrate to kubuntu |
| 21:18.30 | cspan | i'm going to ask there |
| 21:18.32 | cspan | thx!! |
| 21:19.25 | Bor_Ed | hmm, commercials break ended... back to the clip |
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| 22:00.21 | Anthro | For whatever reason DMA fails spectacularly on my dual G4. Can anyone help me? I'm getting really tired of all of my disk access taking forever. |
| 22:03.06 | Anthro | Incidentally, I'm running 2.6.11-powerpc-smp from sid. |
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| 23:14.09 | Anthro | For whatever reason DMA fails spectacularly on my dual G4. Can anyone help me? I'm getting really tired of all of my disk access taking forever. Incidentally, I'm running 2.6.11-powerpc-smp from sid. |
| 23:15.07 | dj-death | no idea |
| 23:16.24 | dj-death | did you look at google ng ? |
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