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| 00:15.00 | AlwaysModest | the longest 4.5 hours of my life |
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| 01:18.16 | AlwaysModest | how do i configure the x video settings/ |
| 01:18.20 | AlwaysModest | it says it has no video driver |
| 01:27.16 | piem | AlwaysModest: what video card do you have, and what driver did you choose ? |
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| 01:27.53 | AlwaysModest | not too sure but i know i have the ati rage pro |
| 01:27.57 | AlwaysModest | beige g3 |
| 01:28.42 | piem | grep Driver /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? |
| 01:29.30 | piem | the last line should read Driver "ati" |
| 01:30.30 | AlwaysModest | i don't have that directory |
| 01:31.10 | AlwaysModest | i told it to apt-get install x-window-system and x-window-system-core |
| 01:31.23 | AlwaysModest | i don't remember what i did after that for the configuration |
| 01:49.49 | piem | AlwaysModest: you need xserver-xfree86 |
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| 11:13.03 | pa | excuse me, why can't i find macintosh subarchitecture in linux kernel configuration, if i do make menuconfig from another architecture (ex. x86 pc) |
| 11:13.04 | pa | ? |
| 11:13.37 | aba | pa: the default is that you compile the kernel for the arch you're running the configure on |
| 11:14.48 | pa | can i change the default somehow? |
| 11:24.00 | johill | make ARCH=something menuconfig? |
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| 16:35.38 | ioops | hi |
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| 18:09.41 | estragon | hello |
| 18:31.58 | estragon | some oune use powerpc-utils? |
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| 18:45.32 | simonrvn | not recently |
| 18:46.36 | tenoch | Hi everyone |
| 18:46.41 | tenoch | Just installed GCC |
| 18:46.53 | tenoch | and the binary is named gcc-<version> |
| 18:47.04 | tenoch | so configure scripts cant find it |
| 18:47.06 | tenoch | is it normal ? |
| 18:47.07 | Bor_Ed | install build-essential instead |
| 18:47.14 | tenoch | I had to rename it myself. |
| 18:48.39 | tenoch | I'm a bit lost in all these packages. Never know which one is the good one... |
| 18:49.36 | Bor_Ed | configure script should do symlinks in /usr/bin |
| 18:50.19 | simonrvn | indeed |
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| 19:08.31 | pa | it's a my impression, or the ibook under linux is hotter than under osX, even with powernowd running and with load @ 0%? |
| 19:09.07 | Curalton | not so with my g3 ibook |
| 19:09.11 | simonrvn | there's fan control kernel modules you might want too |
| 19:09.27 | Bor_Ed | powernowd ? isn't that amd cpu freq controller ? |
| 19:09.39 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 19:09.54 | Bor_Ed | prolly won't do much on a ppc |
| 19:09.55 | Curalton | works fine for any cpu because of the standard /sys interface |
| 19:10.00 | pa | simonrvn: when it is @ 0% load, i got fan off either under osX nor under linux |
| 19:10.02 | Bor_Ed | ahh |
| 19:10.13 | simonrvn | ah ok |
| 19:10.16 | pa | but it seems that the notebook is more hot with linux |
| 19:10.39 | Bor_Ed | could the cpu frequency scale on /proc be the reason then |
| 19:11.13 | pa | Bor_Ed: what do you mean? |
| 19:11.41 | Bor_Ed | the min and max frequencies for cpu are given somewhere in /proc land... if you have those as same, the cpu can't slow down |
| 19:11.50 | pa | oh |
| 19:11.53 | pa | can i change them? |
| 19:11.56 | Curalton | pa: cat /proc/cpuinfo and check if the cpu is indeed scaled down |
| 19:12.08 | Bor_Ed | like I'd remember |
| 19:12.14 | pa | Curalton: yes. it is actually @599mhz instead of 1199mhz |
| 19:12.32 | Curalton | pa: laptop mode being used? |
| 19:12.42 | pa | Curalton: ibook g4, current model |
| 19:13.04 | pa | Bor_Ed: can i change directly the files in /proc? |
| 19:13.05 | Curalton | mode, not model :) |
| 19:13.17 | Curalton | find /proc/[^0-9]*/ -iname '*laptop*' |
| 19:13.19 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 19:13.44 | pa | Curalton: 0... |
| 19:13.48 | pa | what does this mean? |
| 19:14.11 | pa | (from /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode ) |
| 19:14.35 | Curalton | pa: it doesnt use certain caching functions for the hd |
| 19:14.55 | Curalton | i guess the HD is causing the heatup |
| 19:15.08 | pa | Curalton: yeah. the hot is in fact nearthe touchpad |
| 19:15.20 | pa | Curalton: do you think i can activate cache? |
| 19:15.35 | Curalton | just echo 1 into that file^ |
| 19:15.40 | pa | oh! :) |
| 19:15.43 | Curalton | there is also a script arround to activate it |
| 19:15.50 | Curalton | some demon also knows about it |
| 19:15.51 | pa | oh! |
| 19:16.01 | pa | but you don't know which, right? |
| 19:16.25 | Bor_Ed | noflushd at least |
| 19:16.51 | Curalton | here its automatically enabled once my laptop is unplugged |
| 19:17.00 | Curalton | pa: you mean it gets hot while on battery? |
| 19:17.28 | pa | Curalton: mh.. i don't remember with battery |
| 19:18.03 | Curalton | i have pbbutdonsd, ikeyd and powernowd running fyi |
| 19:18.34 | pa | ikeyd.. let me search about |
| 19:18.53 | pa | i found "laptop-mode-tools" |
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| 19:19.21 | Curalton | pa: dont install |
| 19:19.27 | Curalton | only for the ibook 2001 |
| 19:19.54 | Curalton | pa: unplut the laptop and see if the laptop_mode value changes to 5 |
| 19:20.37 | pa | Curalton: i installed laptop-mode-tools, and it is now @2 |
| 19:20.41 | pa | now i try with battery |
| 19:21.01 | pa | but with 2 it seems cool |
| 19:21.19 | pa | (even now, that i'm compiling a kernel) |
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| 19:22.34 | pa | Curalton: yeah, it does! |
| 19:22.34 | pa | thanks |
| 19:23.09 | Curalton | so, the ibook just uses all it can when its under battery :) |
| 19:27.03 | pa | i would like to know also if i can change min value for cpu freq |
| 19:27.19 | pa | can i let cpufreq slow down my cpu under 600mhz? |
| 19:27.19 | Curalton | uh, iirc ibooks just have 2 freqs |
| 19:27.23 | Curalton | min and max |
| 19:27.32 | pa | oh. so only 600 and 1200? |
| 19:27.35 | pa | bad thing |
| 19:28.39 | pa | yes, you right |
| 19:29.41 | Bor_Ed | didn't accept lower freqs ? |
| 19:30.22 | pa | no :( |
| 19:30.30 | pa | Curalton: do you use laptop-mode-tools? |
| 19:35.02 | Curalton | pa: err, i think not, should be in pbbutonsd by now |
| 19:35.14 | Curalton | at least according to ps aux not. my ibook goes from 700 to 400 only |
| 19:37.01 | pa | Curalton: i mean for laptop mode |
| 19:37.10 | pa | for setting that |
| 19:43.20 | pa | Curalton: but here laptop mode is changed when changing from AC to battery. Is pbbuttonsd that does this? |
| 19:58.38 | Curalton | pa: no, i dont have it running then. seems to be pbbuttonsd. try turning the laptopd off and see what happens |
| 19:59.11 | pa | laptopd.. |
| 19:59.13 | pa | i don't have |
| 20:01.06 | Curalton | err, meaning laptop-mode :) |
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| 20:29.02 | pa | Curalton: laptop-mode seems to be not a daemon.. it's strage, isn't it? |
| 20:29.12 | pa | so i think it works only @ boot time? |
| 20:29.20 | pa | dunno |
| 20:29.21 | _rene_ | no, it's not strange |
| 20:29.43 | Curalton | maybe it just echos 1 into the procfile |
| 20:30.05 | _rene_ | and it hooks into the power management event handling so it gets ran when something changed |
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| 20:32.10 | pa | oh |
| 20:32.23 | pa | _rene_: and do you think i can use it safely with pbbuttonsd? |
| 20:33.07 | _rene_ | yes. laptop-mode runs here.. |
| 20:34.01 | pa | and pbbuttonsd too? |
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| 20:49.15 | _rene_ | pa: yes... |
| 20:50.49 | pa | nice! |
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| 20:57.53 | pa | i have another small problem: |
| 20:57.54 | pa | modprobe snd-powermac |
| 20:57.54 | pa | FATAL: Error inserting snd_powermac (/lib/modules/2.6.12-powerpc/kernel/sound/ppc/snd-powermac.ko): No such device |
| 20:58.03 | pa | is this the correct module? |
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| 21:04.42 | pa | maybe wrong kernel? |
| 21:04.50 | pa | i'm using 2.6.12-rc6-mm1 |
| 21:15.27 | simonrvn | is dmasound_* in lsmod? remove that first |
| 21:16.14 | pa | no, i haven't |
| 21:16.15 | pa | i think |
| 21:16.19 | pa | let me check |
| 21:17.50 | pa | simonrvn: yes, i got it into the kernel |
| 21:17.55 | pa | have i to remove? |
| 21:18.06 | simonrvn | yes. modprobe -r foo |
| 21:19.07 | pa | ok |
| 21:19.10 | pa | thank you! |
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