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| 00:02.48 | abbas | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Veri alınamıyor) |
| 00:02.49 | abbas | Errors were encountered while processing: |
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| 01:01.29 | simonrvn | fucker's using ubuntu... *sigh*. could at least go to the right channel |
| 01:01.49 | simonrvn | oh well, good luck anyway |
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| 01:25.30 | MooseMan | i need help getting yaboot bootloader to install on my bootstrap partition |
| 01:27.31 | Clouded | anyone around? |
| 01:27.36 | MooseMan | for every distro i've used, yaboot fails to install on my bootsrap partition |
| 01:29.11 | MooseMan | i'm rather new to linux, and upon attempting to manually boot, it appeared that the the kernel image of gentoo (my previous failure) still exists |
| 01:31.48 | MooseMan | hello? |
| 01:33.23 | debianppc | hi |
| 01:33.47 | debianppc | simonrvn: how are you today |
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| 01:42.00 | lex | Hey anyone here has a dual 1ghz g4? Im wondering if DDR 400mhz pc3200 memory is right for it |
| 01:42.48 | debianppc | man |
| 01:42.51 | debianppc | i dont really kow |
| 01:43.06 | debianppc | but i hope you find the anser to it in the time it takes me to smoke a jay |
| 01:43.07 | debianppc | :/ |
| 01:43.10 | debianppc | good luck |
| 01:43.15 | lex | You think the box will barf if i just try it on? |
| 01:43.32 | lex | Cause pc's have no problems with that...but macs...idunno |
| 01:43.39 | debianppc | it wont' fry your comp |
| 01:43.43 | debianppc | so just give it a shot |
| 01:43.46 | lex | yeah |
| 01:43.47 | debianppc | it wil leither boot, or it won't |
| 01:44.54 | debianppc | i knew i forgot something, need to put a filter in this spliff |
| 01:45.05 | debianppc | bbl with some more problems with old ppc |
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| 05:32.30 | dagbrown | So uh |
| 05:32.31 | dagbrown | uh |
| 05:32.53 | dagbrown | Is there a way to get ybin to just take my word for it that I know what OpenFirmware device I want it to install onto? |
| 05:51.51 | dagbrown | You know, when you just want to run the bootstrap installer from the CD, having the CD REINSTALL ALL THE FUCKING PACKAGES ON THE SYSTEM EVEN IN EXPERT MODE is pretty rude. |
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| 07:25.42 | jbglaw_ | Does anybody have a scanned description of the DIP switches for these Mac->VGA converters? |
| 07:26.01 | jbglaw_ | Mine looks like this one: http://www.sfcable.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SC&Product_Code=30D2-B2 |
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| 07:50.18 | jbglaw_ | And now, having 2.6.12 installed, even strace works again :) Though, the 'controlfb' only puts garbage on the screen, but that's secondary. |
| 07:50.33 | jbglaw_ | The box is basically only accessed by serial console or ssh... |
| 07:51.12 | dagbrown | HOORAY |
| 07:51.21 | dagbrown | I GOT MY XSERVE G5 TO BOOT OFF THE SECOND HARD DRIVE |
| 07:51.37 | dagbrown | (i.e., shut down machine, pull first hard drive, boot, watch Linux come up) |
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| 11:58.46 | Bor_Ed | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5637568460.html a real killer, ibm blue gene/l at the top of top500.org list |
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| 13:54.41 | simonrvn | cool |
| 13:55.19 | simonrvn | as is such a sucky scheduler. i don't know why people use it |
| 13:56.06 | simonrvn | deadline works better for scsi and databases. cfq i have to look it up again |
| 13:56.37 | Q-FUNK | I tried both cfq and deadline. cfq seems better suited for desktops, because it gives exactly the same priority to everything. |
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| 13:57.09 | simonrvn | ah ok. so i'll change this one to cfq |
| 13:57.28 | Q-FUNK | these two documents explain the issue rather well |
| 13:58.24 | Q-FUNK | anyhow, in my own kernels configurations, I disable the predictive scheduler. it has the worst performance of them all. |
| 13:58.28 | simonrvn | cool |
| 13:59.58 | Q-FUNK | the difference in performance between cfq and deadline is rather small. it mainly is that deadline is good at adapting to sudden resource surges. |
| 14:00.53 | Q-FUNK | cfq doesn't try to adapt to extreme conditions at all; it steadfastly gives the exact same amount of resources to everything, including disk accesses. |
| 14:01.49 | Q-FUNK | so far, it seems that all commercial distros have selected cfq as their default. |
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| 14:06.38 | simonrvn | gonna try this out. brb |
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| 14:23.36 | simonrvn | it's a bit stickier than deadline. x cursor acts a bit sticky, but less than deadline. deadline seems to work out ok on the main box though |
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| 14:24.38 | simonrvn | so it's pretty much a 'tune it to what the main purpose of the machine' kind of thing, should be included in revisions of hardware and software tuning guides |
| 14:24.49 | simonrvn | *grin* |
| 14:26.01 | simonrvn | this box i couldn't care less about uptimes ;) |
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| 15:36.47 | Q-FUNK | yup |
| 15:37.52 | Q-FUNK | they recommend cfq for desktops, because no single process is allowed to steal all the resources, while database and other more hard-disk intensive stuff should use deadline, whch has the ability to dynamically allocate more resources to disk writes. |
| 15:38.11 | Bor_Ed | ya have midsummer shack already ? :D |
| 15:38.32 | Q-FUNK | shag |
| 15:38.39 | Q-FUNK | soon... I hope. ;) |
| 15:38.41 | Bor_Ed | shateva :) |
| 15:39.01 | simonrvn | yeh. which is why it works well on my main box. 3 scsi busses, 2 in use (third seems to have been fried before i got the machine :( ), and i run mysql, postgres, and ldap on it |
| 15:39.28 | Q-FUNK | right, so for that deadline makes sense. |
| 15:39.38 | simonrvn | the beast with 0.6 GB RAM on it |
| 15:39.43 | simonrvn | uh, 0.5 |
| 15:40.24 | simonrvn | i need to get some more 128 MB sticks |
| 15:41.11 | simonrvn | both workstations here do a lot of graphics work, and the other server needs a bit more ram |
| 15:48.06 | Q-FUNK | graphics work would also benefit from cfq, since the resources are equally distributed between number crunching and i/o operations. |
| 15:53.57 | simonrvn | yeh, that's true |
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| 16:08.04 | de_Moya | hi |
| 16:08.57 | de_Moya | does the last bootsplash patch for 2.6.12 work on ppc? |
| 16:11.06 | simonrvn | use fbsplash or splashy |
| 16:11.29 | simonrvn | bootsplash doesn't work nice with mol kernel drivers, according to one person |
| 16:12.51 | de_Moya | i tried fbsplash but it seems not to work at early boot stage using yaboot with radeonfb |
| 16:13.16 | de_Moya | perhaps my append line was eroneous |
| 16:13.58 | de_Moya | ( i tried fbsplash-0.9.2-r3-2.6.12-rc3.patch with 2.6.12 kernel) |
| 16:15.24 | de_Moya | my problem with the last bootsplash patch is that i can t enter the bootsplash menu because it depends on vesa |
| 16:15.33 | simonrvn | append="video:radeonfb" ? |
| 16:15.42 | simonrvn | er, wait |
| 16:15.51 | de_Moya | video=radeonfb |
| 16:15.55 | de_Moya | not ":" |
| 16:16.00 | simonrvn | append="video=radeonfb" ? |
| 16:16.04 | simonrvn | :) |
| 16:16.05 | de_Moya | yes |
| 16:16.55 | de_Moya | append="video=radeonfb:1024x768-16 splash=silent, theme:mytheme" |
| 16:17.14 | simonrvn | usually don't need the size |
| 16:17.47 | simonrvn | though might if you want to set the res |
| 16:17.58 | de_Moya | it can be the reason why that didn t work? |
| 16:18.23 | simonrvn | try without the res and bbp, and see what happens |
| 16:18.26 | simonrvn | er bpp |
| 16:18.36 | de_Moya | ok i ll try this |
| 16:19.00 | simonrvn | like video=radeonfb splash=silent,theme:themename |
| 16:19.11 | de_Moya | yes :) |
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| 16:34.17 | de_Moya | simonrvn, did not work :( |
| 16:36.33 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: ... |
| 16:36.34 | Bor_Ed | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 16:36.34 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:52.32 | simonrvn | de_Moya: oh, too bad. no ideas here, otherwise, sorry |
| 16:52.58 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: you know the drill ;), that's not all the errors there are |
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| 16:54.39 | Bor_Ed | yea... though I wanted to hear if you have quick&dirty for that one :D |
| 16:54.53 | Bor_Ed | I can live with aumix-gtk too for now |
| 16:55.01 | de_Moya | thx for your answers simonrvn |
| 16:55.24 | simonrvn | without seeing more, i have no idea |
| 16:55.34 | simonrvn | np |
| 16:55.54 | Bor_Ed | trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/xfce4/modules/libxfce4mixer.la', which is also in package xfce4-mixer-lib-oss |
| 16:55.54 | Bor_Ed | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
| 16:55.56 | Bor_Ed | hmmm |
| 16:56.45 | simonrvn | --force-overwrite, or re-run the install |
| 16:56.52 | simonrvn | try the latter first |
| 16:56.59 | Bor_Ed | --purging the -oss package |
| 16:57.49 | simonrvn | yeh do that, should be ok |
| 16:59.37 | Bor_Ed | hmm, nope |
| 17:00.04 | simonrvn | so shoot it in the head, then walk over its corpse ;p |
| 17:00.23 | Bor_Ed | will do |
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| 18:28.35 | demon | hooray, an fc4/ppc chroot on my g3 :) |
| 18:28.39 | demon | <3 rpmstrap |
| 18:29.56 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 18:31.56 | demon | it's nice for setting up RPM-based distros for use with xen :) |
| 18:32.36 | simonrvn | ok. cool :) |
| 18:34.31 | demon | or for testing/builds inside a chroot or whatever |
| 18:35.09 | simonrvn | i don't mind fc, i just don't like rpms |
| 18:35.43 | simonrvn | took a browse of one the other day, and there were all these little files in it, made everything look like a mess |
| 18:35.52 | simonrvn | (with mc) |
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| 19:29.20 | demon | metadata stuff, I'm guessing? |
| 19:29.49 | demon | stuff that'd probably go into the data.tar.gz or whatever section of a deb, separate from the actual installable content |
| 19:31.00 | simonrvn | yeh, looked like it |
| 19:31.33 | simonrvn | however, a lot more files, and not in a tarball |
| 19:32.20 | simonrvn | at most in control.tar.gz you see like 6 files. this had about a dozen, and a dir with stuff in it too (don't remember what was in it now) |
| 19:32.51 | simonrvn | .list, .postrm, prerm, postinst, preinst, config, and md5sums |
| 19:32.59 | simonrvn | ok., more than 6 =) |
| 19:33.08 | simonrvn | poh and control |
| 19:33.15 | simonrvn | s/poh/oh/ |
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| 20:24.12 | Q-FUNK | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg00016.html |
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| 20:36.38 | simonrvn | whoah |
| 20:38.06 | Q-FUNK | indeed |
| 20:38.24 | Q-FUNK | all HEL froze over |
| 20:39.25 | Bor_Ed | broadcom giving specs ? :o |
| 20:39.43 | simonrvn | not quite frozen over, maybe a chill |
| 20:40.22 | Q-FUNK | Bor_Ed: see above link |
| 20:40.30 | Q-FUNK | debina lost its free hosting |
| 20:40.35 | simonrvn | freezing over would be matrox, nvidia, and ati opening up specs on all new and future cards, and boradcom opening up too |
| 20:40.42 | Bor_Ed | just read... sheesh |
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