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| 00:18.23 | ali1234 | what format are the powerpc install floppies? i need to extract the root filesystem to tar.gz for a chrooted install... |
| 00:24.17 | ali1234 | but for some reason i can't mount them in loopback |
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| 00:50.46 | Stereo | ali1234: hfs maybe? |
| 00:51.19 | Stereo | I'd be surprised if you couldn't get the base files from elsewhere |
| 00:52.12 | ali1234 | i found base files in a tar.gz when i did the same thing with embedded mipsel, but cant find for ppc |
| 00:52.22 | ali1234 | oh and i tried recompiling my kernel with hfs support but it didnt help |
| 00:54.32 | ali1234 | hmm... for root filesystem i have a choice between fat and minix :( |
| 00:54.39 | ali1234 | kind of fouls up my plan |
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| 01:58.47 | dagbrown | fat and minix?! |
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| 08:25.20 | pa | helo |
| 08:25.32 | pa | only _rene_ uses MoL here? |
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| 09:01.03 | _rene_ | pa: I don't really use it, I just have it installed and working in case I'd need it :-) |
| 09:03.37 | pa | =) |
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| 10:29.04 | black_Nightmare | any of you know if the wallstreet is oldworld or newworld??? ugh I'm confused by too many different reports .. here says new but mac people says old because it started before '98 |
| 10:41.26 | pahartik | black_Nightmare: that does not sound like problem... |
| 10:41.54 | black_Nightmare | pahar...well it does..if its oldworld I'll have to figure how to use mklinux or the so |
| 10:41.56 | black_Nightmare | so there |
| 10:42.38 | pahartik | black_Nightmare: no you do not have to |
| 10:43.09 | black_Nightmare | and the beige G3 too? |
| 10:44.18 | pahartik | black_Nightmare: various Linux 2.4 and 2.6 versions work just fine on my (OldWorld) PowerMacintosh 7300 and 5500 |
| 10:44.25 | ErRandir | the beige G3 i have is oldworld |
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| 10:50.04 | pahartik | black_Nightmare: difference is that for OldWorld one can use "Quik" or "BootX" as bootloader, while for NewWorld one can use "yaboot" as bootloader |
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| 11:27.36 | Xumbi | anyone here running debian on an ibook? |
| 11:35.03 | _rene_ | yes |
| 11:35.24 | _rene_ | iBook G4 12" that is |
| 11:39.55 | Xumbi | ah, me too |
| 11:40.23 | Xumbi | I'm slowly working through problems of compiling my own kernel, trying to get video acceleration and kismet working |
| 11:40.38 | Xumbi | I finally fixed the keycodes problem, I can type no! |
| 11:40.41 | Xumbi | *now |
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| 11:44.25 | Xumbi | now my network card isn't working... |
| 11:44.45 | _rene_ | Xumbi: http://zyklop.dyndns.org/~rene/config-2.6.12. Wrt kismet, well, that depends on your wlan device and whether kismet supports it... |
| 11:46.04 | Xumbi | cool, thanks |
| 11:46.16 | Xumbi | I'm running a 2.4 kernel right now |
| 11:47.07 | Xumbi | I've never had luck upgrading from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 11:47.18 | _rene_ | Xumbi: is a slightly older version, though, don't remember whether and what I changed in the meantime. but should not be important stuuf |
| 11:49.38 | Xumbi | thanks |
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| 13:38.31 | Xumbi | ok, I've got my kernel compiled, now I'm trying to get video acceleration working, I've got the dri-trunk installed, compiled the radeon driver, inserted it, updated XF86config, I get a display, but it is very unstable, lots of flickering |
| 13:41.31 | Xumbi | I'm using this config, sans the "ati" driver http://www.hispalinux.es/~data/iBook/configs/XF86Config-4 |
| 13:45.13 | pahartik | Xumbi: maybe you should show your "/var/log/XFree86.0.log" too |
| 13:46.13 | ErRandir | maybe try the lcd_hack tool. google for it |
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| 13:49.33 | Bor_Ed | htm, a-link 44c box seems to overheat and it's only ~30°C inside |
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| 13:57.31 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: damn that |
| 13:57.58 | Bor_Ed | well, 10" fan blowing at box and its psu seems to do the trick |
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| 14:51.56 | Xumbi | pahartik: I've actually hit another snag, my xdm comes up, but the window is in black and white, and if I login it just kicks me back to the login screen... |
| 14:53.40 | Xumbi | it's like it's the wrong color depth or something |
| 14:53.49 | Xumbi | even though I have the defaultdepth set as 16 |
| 14:53.53 | Xumbi | bah, this is a pain |
| 15:14.29 | Xumbi | ok, I put UseFBDev in my XF86config, now that's working, but I still can't login... |
| 15:15.42 | Xumbi | XFree86.0.log says: AUDIT: Fri Jul 8 15:14:59 2005: 887 X: client 2 rejected from local host |
| 15:15.48 | Xumbi | Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1 |
| 15:25.10 | Xumbi | ok, looks like a problem with .Xauthority (talking to myself is fun!) |
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| 17:10.55 | Xumbi | anyone know why /proc/apm wouldn't show up on my ibook? |
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| 17:19.02 | simonrvn | because apm is only in emulation on apple lappies IIRC |
| 17:20.15 | simonrvn | therefore you need to enable it in some way. (don't ask me how, i'm barely sure of the emulation bit) |
| 17:20.26 | ErRandir | maybe apm support is not enabled in the kernel config |
| 17:22.33 | simonrvn | yeh |
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| 17:35.27 | pahartik | Xumbi: maybe you configured kernel not to have "CONFIG_PMAC_APM_EMU=y" |
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| 17:38.17 | Xumbi | thanks pahartik, I did have to put that in my .config and recompile, then I had to modprobe apm_emu |
| 17:47.36 | Xumbi | ok new problem... when I boot between os x and linux, it messes up the time, os x changes something and makes my clock in linux 5 hours fast |
| 17:47.54 | Xumbi | I read something about how os x uses GMT |
| 17:48.34 | Curalton | linux does too |
| 17:48.45 | Curalton | check /etc/adjtime 3rd line |
| 17:48.48 | Curalton | should be UTC |
| 17:49.01 | Xumbi | sweet, thanks! |
| 17:49.02 | Curalton | if its "local" you have a windowsism |
| 17:59.09 | Xumbi | hmmm, still shows the wrong time after updating that line and rebooting |
| 18:00.03 | Curalton | put 3 times "0" in the first line, 0 in the 2nd and UTC in the last |
| 18:00.18 | Curalton | then set the time under linux |
| 18:00.41 | Curalton | os x should pick it up correctly, else check the timeprefs under os x, maybe there is a similar setting |
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| 18:10.09 | Xumbi | hmmm, after rebooting back into linux my changes to adjtime are overwritten |
| 18:10.19 | Xumbi | it's not a big deal, I'll keep at it |
| 18:20.21 | Curalton | yes, it writes the difference to it |
| 18:20.40 | Curalton | man hwclock /The Adjust Function |
| 18:25.45 | Bor_Ed | I've been pretty happy with ntpdate running hourly on cronjob here |
| 18:26.31 | Curalton | hourly... err |
| 18:26.42 | Curalton | poor timeservers, every 3 days on my server here only |
| 18:27.21 | davem | A more advanced ntp setup can determine clock drift and adjust automatically, giving the time servers time to cool off. |
| 18:27.35 | Curalton | thats the adjtime file, yes |
| 18:27.36 | Bor_Ed | oldworld boxen tend to have probs keeping the time up on load... they advance pretty badly |
| 18:27.47 | Curalton | on load? ick |
| 18:28.10 | Bor_Ed | well, quick&dirty hack but works :) |
| 18:32.05 | Curalton | does the hwclock also suffer this drift? |
| 18:32.35 | Bor_Ed | hwclock gets fixed on reboot monthly or so when I have new kernel |
| 18:33.04 | Curalton | just do hwclock --hctosys |
| 18:33.08 | Curalton | if hwclock is running steady |
| 18:33.30 | Bor_Ed | --systohc ... sys clock has no idea of the time really |
| 18:33.57 | Curalton | so, its a linux kernel bug but the hwclock runs fine? |
| 18:34.11 | Curalton | so id say ntpdate restart every 3 days, then systohc, and hourly hctosys |
| 18:34.27 | Bor_Ed | if I do --hctosys it messes up the whole time/date/zone |
| 18:35.09 | Curalton | err, hwclock --localtime if the hardware has localtime and not utc, else --utc (yet thats default anyhow afaik) |
| 18:35.58 | Bor_Ed | mockos has some kind of clue of the localtime but it drifts too |
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| 19:05.36 | Xumbi | anyone know if it's possible to run wine on a debian ppc system? |
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| 19:06.43 | Curalton | no, not possible |
| 19:06.48 | simonrvn | afaik, there's some plans for wine on ppc; dunno how far it is |
| 19:06.49 | Curalton | unless you are in for a qemo hack |
| 19:06.54 | Curalton | qemu* |
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| 19:25.48 | Xumbi | hah, nope, that's too bad, I really wanted to play planescape torment on my ibook... |
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| 20:04.14 | Bor_Ed | it is possible... there's even tarball available on qemu site |
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| 20:25.52 | Bor_Ed | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9776393001.html Nine from IBM -- TiVo, GLib, Cell, PowerPC 970FX, chip history... |
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| 20:27.11 | Xumbi | anyone know if it's possible to play quicktime audio with mplayer in debian ppc? |
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| 20:30.20 | pahartik | Xumbi: it depends |
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| 20:33.03 | pahartik | Xumbi: for example MPlayer says: "ISO: File Type Major Brand: ISO/IEC 14496-1 (MPEG-4 system) v2", "QuickTime/MOV file format detected.", "Opening audio decoder: [faad] AAC (MPEG2/4 Advanced Audio Coding)"... and plays it just fine |
| 20:34.40 | Xumbi | yeah, I think aac is fine |
| 20:35.27 | Xumbi | I'm trying to play back a video now and it says "requested audio codec family [qdmc] (afm=qtaudio) not available" |
| 20:37.09 | Xumbi | it seems that most trailers on apple's website use that codec |
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| 21:45.53 | akuma | Hi!! |
| 21:45.53 | akuma | I have a RS6000 which doesn't boot sarge's cds, but it can boot suse SLES 9 cd. The question is... can I use the SLES cd to load the debian installer?? |
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| 22:38.35 | black_Nightmare | hey there |
| 22:40.38 | akuma | Hi!! |
| 22:40.44 | akuma | I have a RS6000 which doesn't boot sarge's cds, but it can boot suse SLES 9 cd. The question is... can I use the SLES cd to load the debian installer?? |
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