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| 00:05.56 | dk0r | setup complete. login @ login prompt |
| 00:06.25 | dk0r | gui command? |
| 00:09.41 | jao | did you install X? |
| 00:09.54 | dk0r | i dont think i did |
| 00:09.56 | dk0r | whats command |
| 00:10.07 | dk0r | apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment |
| 00:10.08 | dk0r | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.17 | jao | for instance |
| 00:10.21 | dk0r | ? |
| 00:10.41 | jao | that should work. there are other gui environments available. |
| 00:10.52 | dk0r | whats best for 1st time uiser? |
| 00:11.11 | dk0r | user |
| 00:11.13 | jao | gnome is ok. kde too. |
| 00:11.20 | dk0r | suggest one :) |
| 00:11.57 | jao | heh. mac os x users tend to prefer kde, for what i've seen. i don't like either, but tend towards gnome. |
| 00:12.22 | dk0r | ok well #deb said to use gnome too |
| 00:12.27 | dk0r | ill do gnome |
| 00:12.31 | jao | ok |
| 00:12.41 | dk0r | error |
| 00:13.04 | dk0r | e: could not open lock file /var/liv/dpkg/lock - open (13 permission denied) |
| 00:13.04 | dk0r | and |
| 00:13.13 | jao | you need to login as root |
| 00:13.15 | dk0r | k |
| 00:13.21 | dk0r | sudo -s ? |
| 00:13.26 | dk0r | sudo |
| 00:13.27 | dk0r | dont work |
| 00:13.31 | jao | su - |
| 00:14.18 | dk0r | lala! |
| 00:14.23 | dk0r | do u always do this? |
| 00:14.30 | jao | what? |
| 00:14.32 | dk0r | help greenies? |
| 00:15.00 | jao | if i have the time, why not? |
| 00:15.12 | jao | lots of people helped me in the past |
| 00:15.27 | jao | and actually will help me in the future |
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| 00:18.25 | dk0r | sorry |
| 00:18.35 | dk0r | so do you always help newbs |
| 00:19.01 | jao | <jao> if i have the time, why not? |
| 00:19.02 | jao | <jao> lots of people helped me in the past [02:15] |
| 00:19.02 | jao | <jao> and actually will help me in the future |
| 00:19.02 | jao | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.10 | dk0r | good thinking |
| 00:19.16 | dk0r | most people dont help |
| 00:19.25 | dk0r | takes patience |
| 00:19.34 | dk0r | which might I say again, i appreciate :) |
| 00:19.40 | jao | :) |
| 00:19.44 | dk0r | boy.. gui is big |
| 00:19.55 | jao | yup |
| 00:19.55 | dk0r | do i want to entrsut managment to defoma? |
| 00:20.00 | jao | yes |
| 00:20.18 | dk0r | want cdrecord binaries to be installed suid root? |
| 00:20.31 | jao | yes |
| 00:20.47 | dk0r | ergh.. |
| 00:20.51 | dk0r | sound daemons dsp wrapper? |
| 00:21.07 | jao | hmm. the default? |
| 00:21.20 | dk0r | auto,esddsp,artsdsp,rplaudsp,none |
| 00:21.25 | jao | auto |
| 00:21.26 | dk0r | auto? |
| 00:21.37 | dk0r | hey! i knew the paper size :D |
| 00:21.39 | dk0r | a4! |
| 00:21.44 | jao | hehe |
| 00:21.54 | jao | (so you're in europe?) |
| 00:22.10 | dk0r | so how long u been using unix? |
| 00:22.37 | jao | hmmm. since 1993 or so. |
| 00:22.49 | dk0r | boy o boy |
| 00:22.52 | dk0r | use osx ? |
| 00:22.55 | jao | but i only got serious about it in '97 |
| 00:23.08 | jao | i've used it for a while. not now. |
| 00:23.27 | dk0r | the whole reason im switching |
| 00:23.31 | dk0r | is because i cant change my mac id :) |
| 00:23.33 | dk0r | heh |
| 00:23.38 | dk0r | i want to learn wifi security audits |
| 00:23.46 | dk0r | and need to learn to crack ap's |
| 00:23.47 | dk0r | so.. |
| 00:23.53 | dk0r | here i am! :( |
| 00:24.04 | dk0r | installations pretty simple |
| 00:24.09 | dk0r | id much rather do this then osx or windows |
| 00:24.12 | jao | you'll have a great time, and learn a lot :) |
| 00:24.29 | dk0r | so are there skins? |
| 00:24.32 | dk0r | for the gui ! |
| 00:24.45 | dk0r | what are rules of thumb for 1st setting up debian? |
| 00:24.48 | dk0r | like when i install windows |
| 00:24.53 | jao | there're lots of themes and that kind of stuff, yes |
| 00:24.55 | dk0r | i disable tons of services |
| 00:25.05 | dk0r | show extensions |
| 00:25.09 | dk0r | change a bunch of settings |
| 00:25.13 | dk0r | whats most common ? |
| 00:25.50 | dk0r | gnome skin |
| 00:25.53 | dk0r | debian skin |
| 00:25.57 | dk0r | no results on google :( |
| 00:26.08 | jao | there're lots of things. you'd better discover them little by little. i'd say that the default debian install is quite good. |
| 00:26.08 | dk0r | oh. themes |
| 00:26.22 | dk0r | ok im @ prompt |
| 00:26.25 | dk0r | startx |
| 00:26.27 | dk0r | still command not found |
| 00:26.37 | jao | /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 00:26.45 | dk0r | everytime? |
| 00:26.51 | jao | nope, just now |
| 00:27.01 | dk0r | hey another thing |
| 00:27.02 | jao | it'll get called next time you boot |
| 00:27.05 | dk0r | throughout the install |
| 00:27.11 | dk0r | im getting this thing |
| 00:27.24 | dk0r | adt746x:setting speed to: 0 for CPU fan. |
| 00:27.31 | jao | that's normal |
| 00:27.33 | dk0r | it comes up randomnly on top of things it shouldnt |
| 00:27.33 | dk0r | ok |
| 00:27.50 | dk0r | no such file or dir |
| 00:27.50 | jao | you won't see that in the gui ;) |
| 00:28.10 | jao | apt-get install gdm |
| 00:28.14 | dk0r | debian:~# /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 00:28.15 | dk0r | k |
| 00:28.21 | jao | or wait |
| 00:28.27 | dk0r | to late |
| 00:28.30 | dk0r | installing gdm |
| 00:28.35 | jao | what's in init.d? is there a xdm or kdm? |
| 00:29.07 | dk0r | when u ask whats in |
| 00:29.10 | dk0r | your asking me to |
| 00:29.17 | dk0r | "ls /etc/init.d" |
| 00:29.22 | jao | yes |
| 00:29.34 | jao | but don't paste the result here :) |
| 00:29.37 | dk0r | i know |
| 00:29.38 | dk0r | i cant |
| 00:29.45 | jao | ok :) |
| 00:29.46 | dk0r | nething specific |
| 00:30.01 | jao | well, did you install gdm? |
| 00:30.03 | dk0r | theres.. no xdm |
| 00:30.06 | dk0r | no kdm |
| 00:30.09 | dk0r | but there is gdm |
| 00:30.13 | jao | ah |
| 00:30.35 | jao | try '/etc/init.d/gdm start' again |
| 00:30.37 | dk0r | what does /etc = in windows ? |
| 00:30.39 | dk0r | program files? |
| 00:31.00 | jao | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.00 | dk0r | blue screen |
| 00:31.28 | dk0r | i cannot start the x server (your gui) it is likely it is not up correctly. would you like to ciew the z server output to diagnose the problem |
| 00:31.30 | dk0r | yes or no |
| 00:31.34 | dk0r | picking yes |
| 00:31.57 | dk0r | want me to type output? |
| 00:32.07 | jao | sure |
| 00:32.19 | jao | or tell me what it says briefly first |
| 00:32.19 | dk0r | GDM: Xserver not found: /user/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit - -auth |
| 00:32.43 | dk0r | "/var/liv/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7" |
| 00:32.46 | jao | hmm. is there a /user/X11R6/bin/X ? |
| 00:33.16 | dk0r | error: command could not be exectured please install the x server or edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf to point to the right place |
| 00:33.35 | dk0r | how can i tell if theres a /user/X11R6/bin/X ? |
| 00:33.44 | jao | try to ls it |
| 00:34.07 | dk0r | no such file or dir |
| 00:34.13 | jao | ok. |
| 00:34.17 | jao | apt-get update |
| 00:34.18 | dk0r | commands arent case sensitive , right? |
| 00:34.26 | jao | yes, they are |
| 00:34.27 | dk0r | apt-get update done |
| 00:34.29 | dk0r | oh |
| 00:34.33 | dk0r | let me try that command again then |
| 00:34.45 | dk0r | nope. |
| 00:34.47 | dk0r | no such file or dir |
| 00:34.48 | jao | now, apt-get upgrade |
| 00:34.57 | dk0r | done |
| 00:35.01 | dk0r | 0 |
| 00:35.06 | jao | did it download anything? |
| 00:35.07 | dk0r | nope |
| 00:35.10 | jao | ok |
| 00:35.18 | jao | apt-get install x-window-system |
| 00:35.40 | dk0r | this a long one? |
| 00:35.48 | dk0r | 400kB/s |
| 00:35.49 | jao | probably |
| 00:35.54 | dk0r | oh! |
| 00:35.56 | jao | not bad :) |
| 00:35.57 | dk0r | esitmator in the corner |
| 00:36.02 | dk0r | 1 minute |
| 00:36.25 | dk0r | i cant wait to see desktop |
| 00:36.29 | dk0r | never used unix before |
| 00:36.36 | dk0r | real excited |
| 00:36.44 | dk0r | 20 seconds :) |
| 00:36.56 | jao | unix users love the command line :) you're already experiencing unix! |
| 00:37.07 | dk0r | whats cat do ? |
| 00:37.30 | jao | shows the contents of a file (it'd better be ascii) |
| 00:37.37 | dk0r | do i want to autodetect the recommended x server and driver module for my video card? |
| 00:37.43 | jao | yes |
| 00:37.49 | dk0r | uh |
| 00:37.58 | dk0r | it wants the video cards bus indent |
| 00:38.17 | jao | you may probably leave it blank |
| 00:38.48 | dk0r | u sure |
| 00:38.57 | dk0r | i could use lspci command to determine the bus location |
| 00:39.00 | jao | i don't have it :) |
| 00:39.03 | jao | ah, ok |
| 00:39.22 | dk0r | or leave it blank? |
| 00:39.24 | dk0r | idk what im doing |
| 00:39.27 | dk0r | :) |
| 00:39.59 | jao | just leave it blank for now |
| 00:40.10 | dk0r | XKB ruleset to use? |
| 00:40.15 | dk0r | default is xfree86 |
| 00:40.16 | dk0r | yes? |
| 00:40.21 | jao | yes |
| 00:40.40 | dk0r | keyboard model = macintosh |
| 00:40.46 | jao | yup |
| 00:40.54 | dk0r | mouse port? |
| 00:41.11 | jao | /dev/input/mice |
| 00:41.52 | dk0r | medium or advanced for monitor characterrisitic? |
| 00:42.02 | dk0r | idk refresh specs of the powerbook |
| 00:42.05 | dk0r | so medium |
| 00:42.27 | dk0r | i choose medium |
| 00:42.38 | dk0r | now i have a list of resolutions |
| 00:42.45 | dk0r | in osx the max i could go was 1440x900 |
| 00:43.04 | dk0r | which is a wide screen res |
| 00:43.11 | jao | ok |
| 00:43.13 | dk0r | this list does not have that available option |
| 00:43.26 | jao | choose the closer |
| 00:43.45 | dk0r | if i choose wrong refresh rate, will it automatically fix itself? |
| 00:44.07 | jao | probably not :) |
| 00:44.25 | dk0r | hrm. |
| 00:44.36 | dk0r | 1600x1200 isnt wide screen |
| 00:44.45 | dk0r | i dont think. is 1792x1344 wide screen? |
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| 00:45.13 | jao | i wouldn't choose a resolution greater than 1440x900 |
| 00:45.28 | dk0r | how can i go back? |
| 00:45.31 | dk0r | and go to advanced |
| 00:45.57 | dk0r | so i can specificly specify 1440x900 |
| 00:46.13 | Stereo | widescreen is 16:9 |
| 00:46.33 | dk0r | 1600x1200 isnt wide screen |
| 00:46.41 | Stereo | so you'd get black stripes with 1600x1200 |
| 00:46.46 | dk0r | actually it doesnt matter.. |
| 00:46.51 | Stereo | and they'd be exactly 150 pixels high |
| 00:46.54 | dk0r | cause the mac res is 1440x900 |
| 00:46.55 | Stereo | if playing a movie |
| 00:46.56 | dk0r | soo |
| 00:47.03 | dk0r | max res |
| 00:47.12 | dk0r | you know specs on powerbook lcd's stereo? |
| 00:47.44 | dk0r | how do i go back to medium/advance prompt? |
| 00:48.17 | jao | you'll need the refresh rates in advanced |
| 00:48.33 | jao | does ESC work? |
| 00:49.32 | Stereo | which one? |
| 00:50.11 | Stereo | my 15" is 1280x854 |
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| 00:50.30 | dk0r | sorry |
| 00:50.42 | dk0r | i hit enter by mistake on the powerbook |
| 00:50.49 | dk0r | how do i go back to previous menu? |
| 00:50.51 | Stereo | my 15" is 1280x854, I was saying |
| 00:51.00 | dk0r | max res u mean? |
| 00:51.03 | Stereo | yes |
| 00:51.08 | dk0r | the highest os x supports is 1440x900 |
| 00:51.20 | dk0r | how do i go back in menu selection? |
| 00:51.36 | dk0r | the highest os x supported for my powerbook was 144x900 * |
| 00:51.42 | dk0r | 1440! |
| 00:52.11 | Stereo | dude |
| 00:52.14 | Stereo | you already asked |
| 00:52.21 | Stereo | and you weren't clear the first time |
| 00:52.27 | Stereo | asking again isn't going to help |
| 00:52.29 | dk0r | ? |
| 00:52.37 | jao | dk0r, just complete the config, we can re-enter it later |
| 00:52.42 | dk0r | k. sorry |
| 00:52.42 | Stereo | I have no idea of what you are talking about. What menu, back how |
| 00:53.00 | jao | Stereo, the debconf menus for x-server |
| 00:53.09 | jao | when installing the package |
| 00:53.15 | dk0r | desired default display manager? gdm or xdm ? |
| 00:53.20 | jao | gdm |
| 00:53.49 | dk0r | sorry to cause a ruckus |
| 00:53.59 | dk0r | startx ? |
| 00:54.04 | jao | nah |
| 00:54.04 | Stereo | ah |
| 00:54.11 | jao | /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 00:54.35 | dk0r | gnome display manager: gdm already running |
| 00:54.45 | jao | /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 00:55.11 | dk0r | crazy colors |
| 00:55.17 | dk0r | display going nuts |
| 00:55.26 | dk0r | i can see and move my mouse tho :) |
| 00:55.43 | jao | no window? |
| 00:55.49 | dk0r | its a big mess |
| 00:55.54 | dk0r | everythings distorted |
| 00:55.58 | dk0r | i see yellow |
| 00:55.59 | dk0r | and brown |
| 00:56.03 | dk0r | red |
| 00:56.10 | jao | ok. that must be the resolution. |
| 00:56.23 | dk0r | yeah. i hit enter by accident. dont know what is selected |
| 00:56.29 | dk0r | which is why i wanted to know how to go "back" |
| 00:56.37 | jao | Alt-F1 should return you to the console |
| 00:56.47 | dk0r | nope |
| 00:56.50 | jao | or Alt-Ctrl-F1 |
| 00:56.57 | dk0r | nope |
| 00:56.59 | jao | or Alt-Ctrl-Fn-F1 |
| 00:57.09 | jao | of Alt-Fn-F1 |
| 00:57.23 | dk0r | black screen |
| 00:57.28 | jao | (that's pressing all keys at the same time, btw) |
| 00:57.30 | dk0r | no prompt |
| 00:57.47 | dk0r | manual power down? |
| 00:57.49 | jao | Alt-F2? |
| 00:58.08 | dk0r | nope |
| 00:58.11 | dk0r | and do combination either |
| 00:58.13 | dk0r | no* |
| 00:58.33 | jao | Does Alt-F7 return you to the messy screen? |
| 00:58.42 | dk0r | yes |
| 00:58.52 | dk0r | f1 again? |
| 00:58.59 | jao | try F3 |
| 00:59.09 | dk0r | black screen |
| 00:59.17 | jao | return? |
| 00:59.23 | dk0r | nope |
| 00:59.26 | dk0r | nata |
| 00:59.33 | jao | ? |
| 00:59.34 | dk0r | back to messy screen |
| 00:59.40 | dk0r | hitting return did nothing |
| 00:59.43 | dk0r | still black screen |
| 00:59.47 | dk0r | back @ messy screen |
| 01:00.10 | jao | hmmm |
| 01:00.13 | jao | that's strange |
| 01:00.19 | dk0r | messy screen = alt + func + f7 |
| 01:00.34 | dk0r | blackscreen = cntrl + alt+func + f3 |
| 01:00.45 | dk0r | manualy turn off? |
| 01:00.48 | dk0r | restart |
| 01:00.54 | jao | alt + fn + f[1-6] should bring you to a console screen, with a login prompt |
| 01:01.26 | jao | if you restart, you'll get the messy screen again, but probably f1 will work then |
| 01:01.32 | jao | (hopefully) |
| 01:01.36 | dk0r | nope |
| 01:02.01 | jao | nope what? |
| 01:02.01 | dk0r | to get to black screen from messy.. i have to hold alt+cntrl+fn +f(1-12) |
| 01:02.05 | dk0r | no it didnt |
| 01:02.09 | dk0r | only black screen |
| 01:02.42 | jao | after a restart? |
| 01:04.08 | dk0r | restarted |
| 01:04.15 | dk0r | back @ messy screen |
| 01:04.21 | dk0r | trying again alt + fn + f[1-6] |
| 01:04.50 | dk0r | no |
| 01:04.54 | dk0r | black screen. |
| 01:04.55 | dk0r | :( |
| 01:05.01 | jao | arg |
| 01:05.30 | dk0r | can we break gdm? and get prompt to re-config ? |
| 01:05.47 | jao | restart and, at the prompt, after pressing l, type 'Linux s' |
| 01:06.08 | dk0r | dont think i get option. but will try |
| 01:06.26 | dk0r | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.50 | jao | should end up in linux asking for the root password... |
| 01:07.02 | dk0r | yes |
| 01:07.41 | jao | ok, just enter it |
| 01:07.50 | dk0r | ? |
| 01:07.54 | dk0r | yeah :D |
| 01:07.58 | dk0r | i did that already :) |
| 01:08.12 | jao | now, we need to edit a file |
| 01:08.25 | jao | you'll need to use an editor |
| 01:08.33 | jao | do you know vi? |
| 01:08.41 | dk0r | heard of it. but no |
| 01:08.43 | dk0r | i dont know it |
| 01:09.07 | jao | hmm. try to run 'nano' |
| 01:09.15 | jao | it should be easy to use |
| 01:09.19 | dk0r | debian start nano ? |
| 01:09.24 | jao | just nano |
| 01:09.31 | dk0r | ok. |
| 01:09.35 | dk0r | now? |
| 01:09.44 | dk0r | so this is a txt editor basically |
| 01:10.01 | jao | yes. hmmm, |
| 01:10.09 | dk0r | what we opening |
| 01:10.14 | jao | maybe we can try another thing first |
| 01:10.16 | dk0r | k |
| 01:10.24 | jao | just quit and run the following |
| 01:10.41 | dk0r | how do iquit? |
| 01:10.43 | dk0r | ^X ? |
| 01:10.59 | jao | i guess |
| 01:10.59 | dk0r | got it |
| 01:11.02 | jao | ok |
| 01:11.09 | dk0r | hold shift+letter |
| 01:11.11 | dk0r | :) |
| 01:11.13 | dk0r | im new! |
| 01:11.13 | jao | XFree86 -configure |
| 01:11.43 | dk0r | command |
| 01:11.45 | dk0r | not found |
| 01:11.58 | dk0r | apt-get install xfree86 |
| 01:11.58 | dk0r | ? |
| 01:12.06 | jao | nope, it should be there |
| 01:12.20 | jao | which XFree86 |
| 01:12.26 | jao | (that's a command) |
| 01:12.39 | dk0r | didnt do anytthing |
| 01:12.47 | dk0r | brought up new prompt |
| 01:12.59 | jao | ls /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 |
| 01:13.20 | jao | ls /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 |
| 01:13.46 | dk0r | . /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 |
| 01:13.54 | jao | ok |
| 01:14.06 | jao | /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 -configure |
| 01:14.34 | dk0r | ok |
| 01:14.46 | dk0r | it cant detect my mouse |
| 01:14.57 | dk0r | edit file and correct device |
| 01:15.03 | jao | did it write a file? |
| 01:15.14 | jao | now's time to edit it |
| 01:15.20 | dk0r | list of video driverS? |
| 01:15.37 | dk0r | idk what you mean. |
| 01:15.59 | jao | when you run /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 -configure, |
| 01:16.17 | jao | it tells you to try the config using X ... |
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| 01:20.17 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0027.JPG |
| 01:20.27 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0028.JPG |
| 01:21.35 | dk0r | that help? |
| 01:21.41 | dk0r | i wasnt prompted for anything |
| 01:21.48 | dk0r | after running the former command |
| 01:22.00 | dk0r | i ran it. and got the screen @ dk0r.org |
| 01:22.47 | jao | ok |
| 01:22.49 | jao | ls |
| 01:23.01 | jao | you'll see a file XFConfig or something |
| 01:23.12 | dk0r | yea |
| 01:23.17 | jao | edit it with nano |
| 01:23.41 | jao | look for InputDevice |
| 01:23.43 | dk0r | "nano XF86Config.new" ?? |
| 01:23.51 | jao | ues |
| 01:23.53 | jao | yes |
| 01:24.15 | dk0r | k |
| 01:24.26 | dk0r | inputerdevice "mouse0" "corepointer" |
| 01:24.30 | jao | you located the mouse section? |
| 01:24.31 | jao | ok |
| 01:24.43 | dk0r | make it 1 ? |
| 01:24.47 | jao | nope |
| 01:24.58 | dk0r | oh |
| 01:25.02 | dk0r | theres a few |
| 01:25.04 | jao | what's in Option "Device" |
| 01:25.08 | dk0r | actually two |
| 01:25.18 | jao | the one that says "CorePointer" |
| 01:25.26 | dk0r | . /dev/mouse |
| 01:25.33 | dk0r | oh |
| 01:25.50 | dk0r | the one that says corepointer is under the server layout section |
| 01:26.14 | dk0r | there are two "inputedevice "mouse0" |
| 01:26.18 | dk0r | one under server layout |
| 01:26.23 | dk0r | with "corpointer" next to it |
| 01:26.30 | jao | that just points to the previous one |
| 01:26.37 | dk0r | and one @ bottom of page, under input device section |
| 01:26.41 | dk0r | ok |
| 01:26.58 | dk0r | oh im dumb |
| 01:26.59 | dk0r | god |
| 01:27.03 | dk0r | im not even reading right |
| 01:27.03 | jao | so, the first one has a Option "Device", right? |
| 01:27.04 | dk0r | im sorry |
| 01:27.12 | jao | np |
| 01:27.23 | dk0r | nnope |
| 01:27.26 | dk0r | takes pictures |
| 01:27.37 | jao | no |
| 01:27.44 | jao | look for |
| 01:27.54 | jao | Section "InputDevice" |
| 01:28.06 | jao | now, there should be on section for your keyboard |
| 01:28.16 | jao | and one (or more) for mouse |
| 01:28.18 | dk0r | k |
| 01:28.30 | jao | the Identifier should tell you what |
| 01:28.41 | jao | did you find that? |
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| 01:29.05 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0029.JPG |
| 01:29.08 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0031.JPG |
| 01:29.27 | dk0r | gr |
| 01:29.42 | dk0r | now check |
| 01:30.28 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0031.JPG |
| 01:30.29 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0029.JPG |
| 01:30.36 | jao | so, try changing "/dev/mouse" |
| 01:30.42 | dk0r | to? |
| 01:30.46 | jao | to "/dev/input/mice" |
| 01:31.23 | dk0r | under Section "InputDevice" |
| 01:31.28 | jao | yes |
| 01:31.32 | dk0r | done |
| 01:31.41 | dk0r | Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" |
| 01:31.49 | jao | save and quit |
| 01:31.59 | jao | and then run the X ... command again |
| 01:32.16 | dk0r | how do i write out? |
| 01:32.18 | jao | X -xfree86config ... |
| 01:32.20 | dk0r | when i hit shift+o |
| 01:32.33 | dk0r | it just puts an o into the text we edited |
| 01:32.43 | jao | er Ctrl-X should ask you |
| 01:33.04 | jao | the ^ means Ctrl |
| 01:33.18 | dk0r | now this "X -xfree86config" ? |
| 01:33.30 | jao | yes, like before |
| 01:33.40 | jao | (with the /root/... thing) |
| 01:33.46 | dk0r | command not found |
| 01:33.47 | dk0r | i am root |
| 01:33.52 | dk0r | "X -xfree86config" |
| 01:33.55 | dk0r | command not found |
| 01:33.56 | jao | no |
| 01:34.36 | jao | like you did before |
| 01:34.51 | jao | press the UP cursor key |
| 01:35.00 | jao | until that command you ran appears |
| 01:35.20 | dk0r | ah |
| 01:35.26 | dk0r | "Xfree86 -configure" |
| 01:35.28 | dk0r | thats the 1? |
| 01:35.37 | jao | previous one |
| 01:35.47 | jao | (that's the one that just failed) |
| 01:35.47 | dk0r | nano is as far back as i got |
| 01:36.02 | dk0r | im sorry. |
| 01:36.14 | dk0r | idk what command you want me to input |
| 01:36.19 | dk0r | wana call it quits? |
| 01:36.26 | jao | you need to quit nano |
| 01:36.33 | jao | after saving your changes |
| 01:36.39 | jao | and back to the prompt |
| 01:36.49 | jao | you there? |
| 01:37.04 | dk0r | almost |
| 01:37.09 | dk0r | ekk |
| 01:37.15 | dk0r | im back @ blurry screen |
| 01:37.17 | dk0r | restarts |
| 01:37.25 | jao | no |
| 01:37.31 | dk0r | ? |
| 01:37.35 | dk0r | cntrl |
| 01:37.45 | dk0r | +fn + f1-6 ? |
| 01:37.57 | jao | how did you get the black @ blurry screen? |
| 01:38.03 | dk0r | messed up |
| 01:38.10 | dk0r | im going to restart |
| 01:38.13 | dk0r | its linux s right? |
| 01:38.16 | jao | no, wait |
| 01:38.20 | dk0r | ok. ? |
| 01:38.27 | dk0r | still @ blurry |
| 01:38.27 | jao | it's linux, yes: you don't need to restart! :) |
| 01:38.42 | jao | how did you entered the blurry screen? |
| 01:38.48 | dk0r | i think i was inside nano |
| 01:38.50 | dk0r | and i hit exit |
| 01:39.00 | dk0r | typed in hit |
| 01:39.04 | dk0r | typed in exit* |
| 01:39.27 | jao | you typed exit? |
| 01:39.31 | jao | at a prompt? |
| 01:39.36 | dk0r | no |
| 01:39.40 | dk0r | or.. maybe |
| 01:39.44 | dk0r | i dont even remember now |
| 01:39.45 | dk0r | :( |
| 01:40.01 | dk0r | yes. i think it was @ prompt |
| 01:40.17 | jao | what happens if you hit Ctrl + l |
| 01:40.26 | dk0r | noithing |
| 01:40.47 | jao | and you don't have a 'login:' prompt right there? |
| 01:40.54 | dk0r | im @ blurry screen |
| 01:40.57 | dk0r | theres something there |
| 01:41.04 | dk0r | its just all blurried out |
| 01:41.11 | jao | ok. try Alt+Fn+F2 |
| 01:41.15 | jao | what happens? |
| 01:41.22 | dk0r | does nothing |
| 01:41.24 | dk0r | BUT |
| 01:41.29 | dk0r | alt+cntrl+fn+f2 |
| 01:41.33 | dk0r | brings me to a black screen |
| 01:41.35 | dk0r | in which there is nothing |
| 01:41.45 | dk0r | presing return does not change black screen |
| 01:42.13 | jao | something's wrong with how linux interacts with your screen |
| 01:42.31 | jao | hmmm |
| 01:42.37 | jao | never seen that before |
| 01:42.51 | dk0r | reinstall? |
| 01:43.02 | jao | you can try restart, and 'Linux video=ifonly s' |
| 01:43.09 | jao | (no, reinstall won't fix it) |
| 01:43.20 | dk0r | restarting |
| 01:43.31 | dk0r | i thopught it was ofonly |
| 01:43.35 | dk0r | you mean ifonly |
| 01:43.36 | dk0r | or ofonly |
| 01:43.37 | jao | that video=... is the same as in install (don't remember) |
| 01:44.13 | dk0r | loading |
| 01:44.18 | dk0r | its ofonly :) |
| 01:44.22 | jao | ok |
| 01:44.39 | jao | now, after entering the password |
| 01:44.39 | dk0r | linux is fun :) |
| 01:44.44 | dk0r | yes? |
| 01:45.10 | jao | /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new |
| 01:46.21 | dk0r | ok |
| 01:46.26 | dk0r | screen is messed up |
| 01:46.45 | jao | Ctrl+Alt+Backspace |
| 01:46.53 | dk0r | ok. |
| 01:46.56 | dk0r | black screen |
| 01:47.06 | jao | nothing in there? |
| 01:47.10 | dk0r | nope |
| 01:47.13 | dk0r | hitting return does nothing |
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| 01:47.36 | jao | and if you type 'reset' and return |
| 01:47.46 | jao | ? |
| 01:47.48 | dk0r | nothing |
| 01:47.57 | dk0r | didnt see anything, didnt do nething |
| 01:48.27 | jao | trying to start X is causing havock. we need to fix the XF86Config |
| 01:48.38 | jao | but that means, restarting again :( |
| 01:48.42 | dk0r | on it |
| 01:48.44 | dk0r | linux s |
| 01:48.45 | dk0r | ? |
| 01:48.56 | jao | yeah |
| 01:50.02 | dk0r | lalala |
| 01:50.16 | dk0r | im gonna get bed soars installing this distro |
| 01:50.33 | dk0r | configing* |
| 01:50.39 | dk0r | ok |
| 01:50.43 | dk0r | were root |
| 01:51.54 | dk0r | i should get a webcamera |
| 01:52.00 | jao | edit again the XF86Config |
| 01:52.03 | dk0r | make this alot easier |
| 01:52.13 | dk0r | with nano? |
| 01:52.18 | jao | sure |
| 01:52.23 | dk0r | ok |
| 01:52.36 | jao | look for Section "Screen" |
| 01:52.49 | dk0r | got it |
| 01:52.52 | jao | there should be a line starting with Modes |
| 01:53.10 | dk0r | modes? |
| 01:53.20 | dk0r | i dont see anything under the screen section with the word mode |
| 01:53.22 | jao | yes |
| 01:53.49 | dk0r | pic? |
| 01:53.51 | jao | what is in that section? |
| 01:54.03 | dk0r | identifier "screen0" |
| 01:54.07 | dk0r | device "card0" |
| 01:54.11 | dk0r | monitor "monitor0" |
| 01:54.15 | dk0r | subsection "display |
| 01:54.16 | dk0r | depth 1 |
| 01:54.19 | dk0r | endsubsection |
| 01:54.26 | dk0r | subsection "display" |
| 01:54.31 | jao | aha |
| 01:54.31 | dk0r | depth 4 |
| 01:54.34 | dk0r | endsubsection |
| 01:54.39 | dk0r | keeps doing it with the number |
| 01:54.42 | jao | ok |
| 01:54.45 | dk0r | 8,15,16 and 24 |
| 01:54.51 | dk0r | then end section |
| 01:54.57 | dk0r | endsection* :) |
| 01:55.26 | jao | now, under Depth 24 |
| 01:55.46 | jao | write Modes "1400x..." |
| 01:56.01 | dk0r | like this: |
| 01:56.02 | jao | where ... is the other number i don't remember |
| 01:56.09 | dk0r | Subsection "Display" |
| 01:56.13 | dk0r | Depth 24 |
| 01:56.19 | dk0r | write Modes "1440x900" |
| 01:56.28 | dk0r | EndSubSection |
| 01:56.31 | dk0r | endsection |
| 01:56.33 | jao | no, without the 'write' |
| 01:56.45 | jao | ;) |
| 01:56.54 | dk0r | does it matter how many spaces come before the word modes ? |
| 01:57.05 | jao | no |
| 01:57.23 | dk0r | should i write" 1440x900x24" ? |
| 01:57.27 | dk0r | or just the resolution? |
| 01:57.44 | jao | Modes "1440x900" |
| 01:57.47 | dk0r | k. |
| 01:57.47 | dk0r | done |
| 01:57.56 | jao | and before Subsection |
| 01:58.05 | jao | (the line above) insert |
| 01:58.08 | dk0r | before EndSubSection you mean |
| 01:58.12 | jao | DefaultDepth 24 |
| 01:58.19 | jao | no, befor Subsection |
| 01:58.41 | dk0r | so between subsection and "display" ??? |
| 01:58.51 | jao | no |
| 01:58.54 | dk0r | im confused |
| 01:59.17 | jao | Monitor "monitor0" |
| 01:59.24 | jao | DefaultDepth 24 |
| 01:59.34 | jao | Subsection "Display" |
| 02:01.34 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0002.JPG |
| 02:01.37 | dk0r | sorry. getting slow |
| 02:02.13 | dk0r | you want "DefaultDepth 24" between Moinitor "Monitor0" and SubSection "Display" |
| 02:02.20 | jao | you must have the above three lines in that order |
| 02:02.27 | jao | yes |
| 02:02.31 | jao | in a line of its own |
| 02:02.36 | dk0r | did i do modes right? |
| 02:02.42 | dk0r | modes 1440x900? |
| 02:03.07 | jao | you need the " |
| 02:03.13 | dk0r | yes i know |
| 02:03.15 | dk0r | look @ pic |
| 02:03.17 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0002.JPG |
| 02:03.21 | dk0r | is it right? |
| 02:03.41 | jao | ok |
| 02:04.12 | jao | now let's try again |
| 02:04.13 | jao | /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new |
| 02:04.17 | dk0r | wait |
| 02:04.18 | dk0r | sow down |
| 02:04.26 | dk0r | this is where we screwed up before |
| 02:04.31 | dk0r | how do i save and exit nano |
| 02:04.42 | dk0r | where I screwed up before* |
| 02:04.43 | jao | Ctrl-o |
| 02:04.52 | dk0r | hit enter |
| 02:04.54 | dk0r | then what? |
| 02:04.59 | jao | Ctrl-x |
| 02:05.04 | dk0r | ok |
| 02:05.06 | dk0r | got root |
| 02:05.09 | jao | ok |
| 02:05.12 | dk0r | this is where i hit exit earlier |
| 02:05.15 | dk0r | ...continue |
| 02:05.20 | jao | now |
| 02:05.28 | jao | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.32 | dk0r | gotcha |
| 02:06.24 | dk0r | ok |
| 02:06.36 | dk0r | errors |
| 02:06.43 | jao | ah. what they say? |
| 02:07.30 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0003.JPG |
| 02:08.01 | jao | ok. edit again that file |
| 02:08.09 | dk0r | k |
| 02:08.14 | dk0r | section? |
| 02:08.16 | jao | and look for the Section "Monitor" |
| 02:08.22 | dk0r | got it |
| 02:08.32 | jao | before EndSection |
| 02:08.41 | jao | you need these 3 lines: |
| 02:08.42 | jao | Option "DPMS" |
| 02:08.42 | jao | HorizSync 28-72 |
| 02:08.42 | jao | VertRefresh 43-60 |
| 02:08.42 | jao | Modeline "1440x900" 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 -HSync +Vsync |
| 02:08.57 | dk0r | thats 4 lines |
| 02:09.06 | jao | if you already have any of them change it |
| 02:09.10 | jao | yes :) |
| 02:09.26 | dk0r | i have none of them |
| 02:09.33 | jao | i've always had problems with numbers greater than two :) |
| 02:09.41 | dk0r | hehe :) |
| 02:09.47 | dk0r | thanks again for taking the time to do this with me |
| 02:09.52 | dk0r | idk what i would do w/out ya |
| 02:09.57 | dk0r | definentlly not be running linux |
| 02:10.06 | dk0r | outside enjoying myself ;) |
| 02:11.01 | jao | well, you're already running linux :) |
| 02:11.38 | dk0r | phew |
| 02:11.39 | dk0r | ok. |
| 02:11.43 | dk0r | takes pic to verify |
| 02:11.53 | jao | save and quit nano |
| 02:12.05 | jao | and again the /usr/bin/... thing |
| 02:12.19 | jao | (hint: pressing the cursor up key will bring it back for you) |
| 02:13.05 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0005.JPG |
| 02:13.10 | dk0r | correct? |
| 02:13.26 | dk0r | Section says EndSection |
| 02:14.07 | jao | fine |
| 02:14.23 | dk0r | ok |
| 02:14.23 | jao | go on |
| 02:14.27 | dk0r | fatal server error |
| 02:14.29 | dk0r | no screens found |
| 02:14.35 | jao | arg |
| 02:14.35 | dk0r | tere some error above it too |
| 02:14.40 | dk0r | theres |
| 02:14.45 | dk0r | i think its same as before |
| 02:15.30 | dk0r | same as here |
| 02:15.30 | jao | is your card an NVIDIA? |
| 02:15.37 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0003.JPG |
| 02:15.44 | dk0r | except its path 98 |
| 02:15.47 | dk0r | um.. |
| 02:15.49 | dk0r | no i dont think so |
| 02:15.51 | dk0r | its ATi |
| 02:15.55 | jao | ah |
| 02:17.24 | jao | what's in Section "Device" |
| 02:17.31 | jao | line Driver? |
| 02:17.52 | dk0r | a bunch of stuff |
| 02:18.14 | jao | no, there's just one line starting with "Driver" |
| 02:18.29 | dk0r | yes |
| 02:18.31 | dk0r | towards bottom |
| 02:18.32 | dk0r | says |
| 02:18.35 | dk0r | Driver "ati" |
| 02:18.44 | jao | hm |
| 02:18.47 | jao | that's ok |
| 02:19.13 | dk0r | i think i selected something stupid during that display setup section |
| 02:19.22 | dk0r | when stereo was yelling @ me? |
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| 02:20.26 | jao | we're not using the settings you set there |
| 02:20.55 | dk0r | k |
| 02:20.58 | jao | those are in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 02:21.15 | jao | that's a file similar to the one you're editing |
| 02:21.26 | jao | which is used by default when you start x |
| 02:22.12 | jao | ok. one last try. |
| 02:22.23 | jao | you remember what we put under Depth 24? |
| 02:22.35 | jao | let's put it under Depth 16 |
| 02:22.49 | jao | and make DefaultDepth 16 |
| 02:23.21 | dk0r | and make it DefaultDepth 16? |
| 02:23.38 | dk0r | we put Modes "1440x900" under Depth 24 |
| 02:23.39 | jao | and comment (writing a # at the beginning of line) the 4 monitor lines we wrote |
| 02:23.47 | jao | yes |
| 02:23.56 | dk0r | do the same under Depth 16 ? |
| 02:23.57 | jao | let's put the same under Depth 16 |
| 02:24.00 | dk0r | k |
| 02:24.11 | dk0r | thats it? |
| 02:24.11 | jao | and instead of DefaultDepth 24 |
| 02:24.16 | jao | DefaultDepth 16 |
| 02:24.31 | dk0r | towards the top of section right? |
| 02:24.41 | dk0r | ok. done |
| 02:24.46 | jao | right. just substituting the 24 |
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| 02:24.53 | dk0r | o/x ? |
| 02:24.55 | jao | and comment out the 4 monitor lines |
| 02:25.06 | dk0r | do what now? |
| 02:25.13 | dk0r | comment out the 4 monitor lines? |
| 02:25.15 | dk0r | whats that meanb |
| 02:25.16 | jao | yes |
| 02:25.24 | jao | in section Monitor |
| 02:25.37 | jao | we wrote that 4 lines that i miscounted |
| 02:25.46 | jao | these lines go out |
| 02:25.46 | dk0r | emove them? |
| 02:25.50 | dk0r | remove |
| 02:25.51 | jao | instead of removing |
| 02:26.03 | jao | you can write a # as the first character of the line |
| 02:26.08 | dk0r | gotcha |
| 02:26.12 | jao | that makes the line a comment |
| 02:26.19 | dk0r | so just put a # before each of the 4 lines we added |
| 02:26.20 | dk0r | on it |
| 02:26.25 | jao | yup |
| 02:26.35 | dk0r | ok |
| 02:26.38 | dk0r | o / x ? |
| 02:26.41 | jao | yes |
| 02:26.56 | dk0r | same command as before? |
| 02:26.59 | jao | yes |
| 02:27.02 | dk0r | same error |
| 02:27.06 | jao | :( |
| 02:27.21 | jao | try uncommenting the monitor lines |
| 02:28.09 | dk0r | exact same error |
| 02:28.26 | dk0r | want the log? |
| 02:28.33 | dk0r | server crash log |
| 02:28.58 | jao | send me it by email, please. jao at gnu dot org. |
| 02:29.01 | dk0r | . /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 02:29.12 | dk0r | have to retype? |
| 02:29.17 | dk0r | no way to send it using linux? |
| 02:29.28 | jao | ah. try |
| 02:29.53 | dk0r | nano it to read? |
| 02:29.54 | dk0r | or ls ? |
| 02:30.05 | dk0r | will ls display log? |
| 02:30.10 | jao | cat |
| 02:30.12 | jao | or more |
| 02:30.22 | jao | but it will be a large log |
| 02:30.31 | jao | no way you copy it by hand! |
| 02:30.39 | dk0r | pictures |
| 02:30.48 | jao | nah, not worth it |
| 02:31.01 | jao | too large |
| 02:31.06 | jao | hmmm |
| 02:31.16 | dk0r | it only looks 1 page long |
| 02:31.26 | dk0r | 1 screen long * |
| 02:31.39 | jao | then tell me what it says. there must be lines with an E (meaning errors) |
| 02:31.47 | jao | those are the interesting ones |
| 02:32.19 | dk0r | parse error on line 98 of section screen in file /rott/XF86Config.new |
| 02:32.29 | dk0r | "DefaultDepth 16" is not a valid keyword in this section. |
| 02:32.35 | dk0r | (EE) problem parsing the config gile |
| 02:32.38 | jao | ah |
| 02:32.43 | jao | there's hope |
| 02:32.50 | dk0r | (EE) error from xf86handleconfigfile() |
| 02:32.55 | jao | wait |
| 02:32.57 | dk0r | that was in the pictures i sent you ! |
| 02:32.58 | jao | enough |
| 02:33.02 | dk0r | k |
| 02:33.08 | jao | the line is misplaced |
| 02:33.19 | dk0r | nano? |
| 02:33.30 | dk0r | yes of course |
| 02:33.41 | jao | yes. please, check that it's inside section screen |
| 02:33.45 | dk0r | want screen shot ? |
| 02:33.52 | jao | and before |
| 02:34.04 | jao | the first subsection "display" |
| 02:34.25 | dk0r | yep |
| 02:34.29 | jao | it should be misplaced |
| 02:34.35 | jao | yep? |
| 02:34.39 | dk0r | its there |
| 02:34.48 | dk0r | heres the screen |
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| 02:36.35 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0008.JPG |
| 02:37.11 | jao | ah |
| 02:37.17 | jao | remove the quotes |
| 02:37.29 | jao | just |
| 02:37.31 | dk0r | o / x ? |
| 02:37.37 | jao | DefaultDepth 24 |
| 02:37.40 | jao | er |
| 02:37.42 | jao | 16 |
| 02:37.47 | dk0r | what? |
| 02:37.49 | jao | and yes, o/x |
| 02:37.55 | dk0r | ok |
| 02:38.01 | jao | it says "DefaultDepth 16" |
| 02:38.04 | jao | it must say |
| 02:38.06 | dk0r | remove quotes |
| 02:38.08 | jao | DefaultDepth 16 |
| 02:38.09 | jao | yes |
| 02:38.13 | dk0r | hey! |
| 02:38.20 | dk0r | it didnt give me error |
| 02:38.25 | dk0r | but the screen is missed up |
| 02:38.30 | dk0r | messed up |
| 02:38.36 | dk0r | different mess up colors than before |
| 02:38.44 | dk0r | nows its kinda greyish colors |
| 02:38.44 | jao | aha |
| 02:38.44 | dk0r | but.. |
| 02:38.55 | jao | can you see the mouse |
| 02:38.56 | jao | ? |
| 02:38.59 | dk0r | yes |
| 02:39.05 | dk0r | i can see it move too |
| 02:39.07 | jao | ok, i think it's working |
| 02:39.18 | jao | you see an ugly grey background |
| 02:39.26 | jao | ? |
| 02:39.27 | dk0r | shaking violently |
| 02:39.39 | jao | shaking? |
| 02:39.45 | jao | it's not working |
| 02:40.04 | jao | Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should close it |
| 02:40.40 | dk0r | it did |
| 02:40.49 | jao | and... black window? |
| 02:41.11 | dk0r | yes |
| 02:41.15 | dk0r | restart? |
| 02:41.15 | jao | grrrr |
| 02:41.17 | dk0r | linux s |
| 02:41.22 | jao | yes please |
| 02:41.41 | jao | (i still wonder why this is happening) |
| 02:41.52 | jao | (Alt-Fn-F1 does not work?) |
| 02:42.00 | jao | (without the Ctrl) |
| 02:42.09 | dk0r | nope |
| 02:42.20 | jao | ok. restart |
| 02:42.33 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0001.AVI |
| 02:42.40 | jao | avi? |
| 02:42.49 | jao | how long is it? |
| 02:42.53 | dk0r | 2mb |
| 02:42.57 | dk0r | 5 seconds |
| 02:43.06 | jao | what does it show? the shaking? |
| 02:43.30 | dk0r | the screen |
| 02:43.31 | dk0r | ya |
| 02:43.35 | dk0r | not me naked |
| 02:43.36 | dk0r | sorry |
| 02:43.41 | jao | heh |
| 02:44.46 | jao | ok. nice laptop, btw. |
| 02:45.05 | dk0r | wish you would have said the same about my crt |
| 02:45.14 | dk0r | 25" widescreen bad ass bitch |
| 02:45.30 | jao | not bad |
| 02:45.36 | dk0r | need another one |
| 02:46.03 | dk0r | so.. |
| 02:46.05 | dk0r | wat to do? |
| 02:46.12 | dk0r | you give up yet? |
| 02:46.24 | jao | last try: comment out the monitor lines |
| 02:46.33 | dk0r | they are commeneted out already |
| 02:46.42 | jao | oh, are they? |
| 02:46.50 | dk0r | yes |
| 02:46.51 | jao | then, uncomment them |
| 02:46.52 | dk0r | last thing u told me to do |
| 02:46.54 | dk0r | was remove them |
| 02:46.58 | dk0r | they have no comments |
| 02:47.02 | dk0r | oh |
| 02:47.04 | jao | ah |
| 02:47.05 | dk0r | i didnt read what u said |
| 02:47.06 | dk0r | im sorry |
| 02:47.09 | dk0r | comment out |
| 02:47.10 | dk0r | gotcha |
| 02:47.12 | dk0r | ADD COMMENTS |
| 02:47.18 | jao | yeah |
| 02:47.33 | dk0r | man i really wana get linux running |
| 02:47.38 | dk0r | what happens when this doesnt work? |
| 02:47.42 | dk0r | im doomed to a world w/out linux? |
| 02:47.52 | jao | keep the faith |
| 02:48.02 | jao | everything's gonna be alright :) |
| 02:49.03 | dk0r | whats command again? |
| 02:49.05 | dk0r | the real long one |
| 02:49.26 | jao | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.03 | dk0r | same |
| 02:50.06 | dk0r | as |
| 02:50.09 | dk0r | avi |
| 02:50.58 | dk0r | crazy grey'ness |
| 02:50.59 | jao | hard luck. ok: you need to find out the correct values for the HorizSync nd VertSync parameters |
| 02:51.16 | jao | i'm out of ideas right now |
| 02:51.29 | dk0r | so when i go into rooms and ask |
| 02:51.31 | jao | (and it's 4:51 AM here) |
| 02:51.37 | dk0r | im going to ask |
| 02:51.44 | jao | you can try the mailing list too |
| 02:51.47 | jao | and google |
| 02:51.58 | dk0r | what are the correct values for the HorizSync nd VertSync parameters for a 17" powerbook G4 ? |
| 02:52.02 | dk0r | does that sound right? |
| 02:52.07 | jao | (and maybe tomorrow i will have thought of something) |
| 02:52.14 | dk0r | no problem jao. again |
| 02:52.21 | dk0r | i thankyou for investing so much time |
| 02:52.29 | dk0r | sorry my ppc couldnt be nicer |
| 02:52.37 | jao | sure. or even, anyone has a working XFree86 config for a 17'' pb? |
| 02:52.53 | jao | i hope you'll fix this |
| 02:52.59 | dk0r | but im looking for the correct values for the HorizSync nd VertSync parameters for a 17" powerbook G4 ? |
| 02:53.18 | jao | well, my guess is that those are the wrong parameters |
| 02:53.26 | jao | but, if someone has the whole config |
| 02:53.32 | jao | just grub it |
| 02:53.35 | jao | grab |
| 02:53.41 | dk0r | xf86config.new ? |
| 02:53.45 | jao | it will be a XF86Config-4 file |
| 02:53.52 | dk0r | -4 file? |
| 02:53.58 | dk0r | whats that mean |
| 02:54.11 | jao | a file named "XF86Config-4" |
| 02:54.17 | dk0r | oh ok |
| 02:54.19 | dk0r | heh |
| 02:54.23 | dk0r | ty again jao |
| 02:54.23 | jao | which you can use instead of xf86config.new |
| 02:54.33 | jao | the name doesn't matter, really |
| 02:54.38 | jao | if/when that file works |
| 02:54.43 | dk0r | :) |
| 02:54.45 | dk0r | get to bed |
| 02:54.50 | dk0r | your time was much appreciated |
| 02:54.53 | jao | you copy it to /etc/X11/XF86Config--4 |
| 02:54.56 | jao | ok |
| 02:55.00 | dk0r | ty |
| 02:55.01 | jao | no problem! |
| 02:55.21 | jao | just make me a favour: get it working, ok? :) |
| 02:55.32 | dk0r | heh |
| 02:55.39 | dk0r | trying as we speak |
| 02:55.44 | dk0r | email forums? |
| 02:55.47 | dk0r | any suggestions? |
| 02:55.54 | jao | debianppc |
| 02:56.07 | jao | ubuntu |
| 02:56.23 | jao | and try google |
| 02:56.34 | dk0r | ok. 1 last thing |
| 02:57.41 | dk0r | Anyone have a working XFree86 config for a 17" Powerbook? Cant get my display working & I think the values for my HorizSync nd VertSync parameters are incorrect. |
| 02:57.43 | dk0r | that sound good? |
| 02:58.19 | jao | yup. add that it's an ATI |
| 02:58.27 | dk0r | ok |
| 02:58.28 | dk0r | ty again |
| 02:58.31 | dk0r | talk to ya tommorow |
| 02:58.34 | dk0r | got aim? |
| 02:58.36 | jao | np again :) |
| 02:58.47 | jao | dk0r, nope |
| 02:58.54 | jao | irc is ok :) |
| 02:58.55 | dk0r | k. nite |
| 02:59.01 | jao | good luck! |
| 02:59.03 | jao | nite |
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| 06:32.26 | pahartik | dk0r: one should not have to define those for digital display panels or most modern monitors, when DDC information is available |
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| 06:51.26 | pahartik | dk0r: just try to "#" them out from "Monitor" section... |
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| 11:41.23 | vibronik | hi there, i just install linux on my powerboot, linux boots fine, but osx freezes at "waiting local disk" (translation from french) , what should i do? hide linux partition within osx? modify my yaboot.conf and do a ybin after (i added "brokenosx" to my yaboot.conf, runned ybin after that, but no change! any clue? |
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| 11:45.24 | Stereo | you could re-install os x |
| 11:45.42 | Stereo | do an archive install |
| 11:46.08 | vibronik | re-install ??? there other solution ?? |
| 11:46.37 | vibronik | why should i reinstall ? my osx boots fine in single user! |
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| 14:03.58 | dk0r_ | vsyn |
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| 14:33.38 | karim | what is the most powefull between a G3 400mhz and a G4 350mhz ? |
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| 14:58.18 | Nichotin | karim: overall, I'd place my bet on the g4 |
| 14:59.37 | dk0r | hey |
| 14:59.48 | dk0r | have you gotten ubuntu running with a 17" g4? ati |
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| 15:02.57 | karim | Nichotin, ok |
| 15:03.11 | karim | there is a maxtor hard drive in it that produce an horrible noise :/ |
| 15:03.15 | pahartik | dk0r: i am using Debian GNU/Linux Sarge and newer on iBook G4 and older PowerMacintosh 7300 with ATI Radeon 9200 |
| 15:03.49 | Nichotin | dk0r: ubuntu should work pretty much out of the box |
| 15:04.26 | Nichotin | pahartik: possible to use rradeon 7000 pci for pc on oldworld macs with linux? |
| 15:05.05 | dk0r | im doing this now : "dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86" |
| 15:05.20 | dk0r | what should i select for "enter video cards bus identifier" ??? |
| 15:05.22 | pahartik | Nichotin: i only have that ATI Radeon 9200... but older ATI adapters should work just fine |
| 15:05.33 | dk0r | i have ati 9600 |
| 15:06.01 | dk0r | what should i select for "enter video cards bus identifier" ??? |
| 15:06.06 | Nichotin | pahartik: yeah, but is it a pc version, or a mac version? |
| 15:06.44 | pahartik | Nichotin: with OpenFirmware ROM |
| 15:06.53 | dk0r | you guys dont know answer? |
| 15:07.09 | dk0r | My config??? |
| 15:07.09 | pahartik | dk0r: here i am using 'BusID "PCI:0:16:0"' |
| 15:07.33 | dk0r | Powerbook G4 Aluminum 17" 1.5ghz (ati) |
| 15:07.40 | dk0r | pahartik: how do i determine my own? |
| 15:07.50 | dk0r | im in the xserver-xfree86 config |
| 15:08.02 | pahartik | dk0r: ...for "0000:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV250 5c63 [Radeon Mobility 9200 M9+] (rev 01)" |
| 15:08.27 | dk0r | idk what that means. im new to linux. sorry |
| 15:08.31 | pahartik | dk0r: you could "lspci | grep ATI" |
| 15:08.50 | dk0r | just put that right into where its asking for the video cards bud ident?? |
| 15:09.00 | dk0r | "lspci | grep ATI" ? |
| 15:09.55 | pahartik | dk0r: "lspci" shows information about devices on PCI bus |
| 15:10.09 | dk0r | where do i enter that? |
| 15:10.40 | pahartik | dk0r: shell |
| 15:10.42 | dk0r | http://dk0r.org/DSCF0003.JPG |
| 15:11.00 | dk0r | thats where im @ |
| 15:11.03 | pahartik | dk0r: ...interactive shell... |
| 15:11.15 | dk0r | how do i exit this config? |
| 15:11.26 | dk0r | without saving changes? |
| 15:11.54 | pahartik | dk0r: use another terminal? |
| 15:12.04 | dk0r | its taking up whole screen |
| 15:12.07 | dk0r | I am NEW to linux |
| 15:12.35 | dk0r | how do i exit the config shown @ http://dk0r.org/DSCF0003.JPG |
| 15:14.48 | dk0r | ok. thanks anyways |
| 15:14.55 | pahartik | dk0r: what if you try to move between virtual terminals by <Option>-<Left> and <Option>-<Right> key combination |
| 15:15.15 | dk0r | blinking cursor |
| 15:15.16 | dk0r | blank screen |
| 15:15.24 | dk0r | cant type anything |
| 15:17.31 | dk0r | for lack of a better command :) |
| 15:18.36 | dk0r | ok i did lspci |
| 15:19.09 | dk0r | 0000:00:10:0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] |
| 15:19.20 | dk0r | is this my bus addres? 0000:00:10:0 |
| 15:21.29 | pahartik | dk0r: very good, then you probably can use "PCI:0:16:0" for that |
| 15:23.24 | dk0r | grr.. |
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| 15:24.07 | dk0r | how do i go back in menu options? |
| 15:24.14 | dk0r | im configuring xerver-xfree86 |
| 15:24.16 | dk0r | i want to go BACK |
| 15:24.24 | dk0r | to the last menu options |
| 15:25.03 | vibronik | hi there, i need help for dual boot macosx / debian ppc, what should i do first ? install debian or osx? |
| 15:25.26 | dk0r | idk: they way i did it was os x 1st |
| 15:25.27 | dk0r | then debian |
| 15:25.31 | dk0r | it was pretty easy |
| 15:25.37 | dk0r | vibron. what kind of mac? |
| 15:25.44 | vibronik | pwb 17 |
| 15:25.49 | dk0r | NO WAY! |
| 15:25.51 | dk0r | AWESOME |
| 15:25.57 | dk0r | have u installed before? |
| 15:26.01 | dk0r | linux that is |
| 15:26.33 | vibronik | i installed osx, fine, then debian, fine, but in this case osx hangs at disc volumes detection |
| 15:27.00 | dk0r | well vib. im new to linux & i cannot get my pwb 17 ati display working properly |
| 15:27.27 | vibronik | dk0r, are you sure it's an ATI ? what lspci says? |
| 15:27.27 | dk0r | could u send me your "XF86Config-4 |
| 15:27.37 | vibronik | mine has a nvidia |
| 15:27.38 | dk0r | 0000:00:10:0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] |
| 15:27.42 | vibronik | ok |
| 15:27.59 | dk0r | im new tho. dont really know what im doing |
| 15:28.01 | vibronik | apt-get install hald |
| 15:28.06 | dk0r | on it now |
| 15:28.08 | dk0r | whats hald? |
| 15:28.38 | vibronik | apt-get info hald ;-) (it's an hardware recognition daemon) |
| 15:28.47 | dk0r | nice: can u walk me through it ? :( |
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| 15:29.18 | dk0r | apt-get hald |
| 15:29.21 | dk0r | invalid operation hald |
| 15:29.30 | dk0r | i am root. |
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| 17:19.36 | pahartik | dk0r: damn that |
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| 21:00.04 | Dk0rt | but.. it looks like it did everything |
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