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01:26.14Mestapheleshey guys, I'm owndering why there is a link up top if sarge's d-i install allows xfs formating for the install.
01:26.59simonrvngood point
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01:36.21MestaphelesDoes the /boot partition has to be neworld partition type on neworld ppcs?  Can it be xfs, jfs, ext2 or ext3?
01:47.07simonrvnyou don't need a separate /boot on newworlds
01:50.02demonwhatever filesystem /boot ends up on though, if you want to make one, it does need to be either ext2 or ext3
01:50.22simonrvnfor yaboot?
01:50.35demonif you want to do an xfs or jfs (or heaven forbid, reiserfs) root, then you'll need a separate /boot
01:50.41demonsimonrvn: affirmative
01:50.46Mestaphelesso /boot stuff uch kernels will get put onto /boot, and if I want I can make / XFS if I wanted to?
01:50.49demonyaboot doesn't know other filesystems
01:50.56simonrvnoh, so it does still matter. you just have more choice in the matter
01:51.09simonrvnurm, slightly more choice =)
01:54.25MestaphelesI'm looking at the output of mac-fdisk -l and I don't see yaboot, doesn't that get put its own partition by the d-i after partitioning, so I don't have to worry.  But yeah I see your point, make a /boot if using other fs'es other than exts2 or 3
01:54.37Mestaphelesext2 or 3
01:56.20MestaphelesI'm just asking 'cause I just installed with xfs and I'm very happy, (yeah resierfs on ppc was a big mistake) but I created /var to be 3g, something I think too large since these are rather short lived.
01:57.10simonrvnshould be there, usually right after the partition map if nothing else there
01:59.17Mestaphelesafter theApple_partition_map I have /dev/hda2         Apple_Bootstrap /boot  1954 @ 41943104  (977.0k)  NewWorld bootblock
02:00.20demonuh
02:00.24demonthat's not your /boot
02:00.29Mestaphelesyeah
02:00.34demonthat's the bootstrap partition, which should be 800 KB
02:03.10MestaphelesConcerning partitioning,  I'm assuming /tmp and /var don't need to be larger than 700mb to 1g for a regular desktop.  How much room should I allocated /boot if I want the default kernel and perhaps a few personal compiled kernels down the road?
02:04.44simonrvni have mine at ~50 MB
02:05.31Mestaphelesyeah, I reading the debian manual that suggests 2o-30mb is good for /tmp
02:06.32simonrvni was speaking of /boot
02:06.36Mestaphelesoh
02:06.57Mestapheleshow many kernels do you have in there?
02:07.04simonrvntmp is usually anywhere from 64 to 300 MB
02:07.36simonrvnup to 5 if not gzipped. more if they are (quik can read gzip -9 kernels now)
02:08.42MestaphelesI'm not gzipping anything.
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02:10.34dk0r_my new powerbook will not with with debian
02:10.40dk0r_not work
02:10.43dk0r_tried for hours
02:10.50dk0r_cant get display frequencies proper
02:11.51MestaphelesThis is what I got. /boot 1mb, / 280m, 5 gb for /usr, 3g for /var, 4 g for swap, 400m for /tmp, 46.8g for /home
02:12.05demon1 MB for /boot?
02:12.13demonthat's nowhere near large enough
02:12.22MestaphelesI just thought that,
02:12.40Mestapheles/dev/hda2         Apple_Bootstrap /boot                   1954 @ 41943104  (977.0k)  NewWorld bootbloc
02:12.49Mestaphelesfrom mac-fdisk -l
02:12.50demonagain
02:12.59demonApple_Bootstrap partition is not /boot
02:13.11demonthat is a partition which will only ever contain 3 files
02:13.16Mestaphelesdumb me
02:13.18dk0r_anyone using a g4 17" 1.5 ?
02:13.22demonand should _never_ _ever_ be mounted for any reason
02:13.36demonunless you really know what you're doing
02:13.52MestaphelesI thought I created a /boot, but I don't see it in mac-fdisk -l
02:14.16Mestapheleslooking over my paper notes
02:15.01demon/boot is 50 MB on my pismo
02:15.56MestaphelesI guess I thought I created a /boot, or rather I did but apparently d-i decided to do otherwise with it
02:16.46Mestaphelesin that case they are all xfs and 'm running right now
02:18.33MestaphelesI guess I should have told dk0r_ that a live-ppc cd might help him
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02:32.16dk0r_anyone get debian pcc running on pb 17 gf ?
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02:48.18abofaisalIs there a GUI app I could get through apt-get that would let me easily rip DVDs?
02:51.41Mestaphelesxcdroast
02:52.21Mestaphelesyou need to get keys, but  i've done it.
02:52.40abofaisaldon't want to copy one
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02:52.51abofaisaljust want to rip to divx
02:53.17Mestaphelesgo to their website and readup
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12:49.52helgomanI have installed Debian Sarge on my ibook and have problems to get X working with the radeon- chip. can somebody help me, please?
12:56.23_rene_what is the exact problem you have?
13:01.13helgomani think i need a newer version of xfree86. my current version is 4.3.0.1 . I read about 4.4.0 should work but I don't know how to get it. I use the stable version of debian.
13:02.57_rene_don't.
13:03.15_rene_the drivers of debians 4.3 are more or less 4.4 stage anywhere
13:03.35_rene_and 4.4 has serious license problem. yo are *not* allowed to build GPL applications against its libs
13:03.44_rene_s/anywhere/anyway/
13:04.05_rene_anyway, X.org should enter sid in the next days/weeks. Xfree86 is dead.
13:04.32_rene_helgoman: and the iBook works fine with sarge's Xfree86
13:04.36_rene_have it running
13:04.54_rene_http://zyklop.dyndns.org/~rene/XF86Config-4
13:08.25helgomanok, I'll try to run X with your config...
13:08.49_rene_this is for a iBook G4 12"
13:10.04helgomanmy ibook is a 12" one, too.
13:10.27helgoman... and X is running, thank you
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13:34.02helgoman_rene_: how can I change to the console an back to X?
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13:39.10pahartikhelgoman: <Control>-<Option>-<F1>
13:39.47pahartikhelgoman: ...for example...
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13:42.33helgomanpahartik: hm, it don't work. do I need to install pbbuttonsd?
13:44.40_rene_for X, you need to remap your keys. i.e. tell where alt-gr is. at least for german keyboards :) (which is the config here)
13:45.05_rene_but ctrl-alt-fX should work
13:45.18_rene_if you set up the right keymap...
13:50.32pahartikhelgoman: maybe you need to add <Fn> to that combination?
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15:50.27dk0ranyone get debian running with a pb 17" g4 1.5 ?
15:50.41dk0rcant get lcd frequencies proper
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17:24.12xzakoxHi
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17:24.21xzakoxplease help: http://channels.debian.net/paste/334
17:24.26xzakoxtnks
17:24.27xzakox:)
17:48.08demon.... seriously, if you think you're going to get help by pasting in a link to a summary of your problem, you're nuts :)
17:53.51xzakoxand if i paste all that here, i'll be called flooder or something, right?
17:53.52xzakoxlol
17:53.53xzakox:)
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20:11.15black_Nightmareany of you know about mklinux or the so? (to put debian on oldworld computers)
20:15.55pahartikblack_Nightmare: is there some reason that makes you prefer it over Linux 2.4 or 2.6?
20:16.31black_Nightmareumm pahart..do you not know what oldworld means? :-)
20:19.13pahartikblack_Nightmare: you have some deviant definition for "OldWorld"?
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