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00:08.22snooodoes anyone have any experience of using dmix here?
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00:41.55black_Nightmarehey :p
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03:45.14EnRockI'm trying to get my PCI-USRobotics Hardware Voice-Fax-Modem working in a G4, but when I insmod "8250_pci" I get a "8250" error "No Such Device". Any tips?
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10:04.53fmanhey all
10:05.05fmananyone able to help me compile the zaptel drivers under debianppc?
10:05.10fmandamned If I can make it work
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13:01.19thebugsomeone good with postfix? I can't get it to bind to the public interface, only localhost:25
13:01.58simonrvnmynetworks =
13:02.16simonrvni'm not good with postfix, but i little
13:02.19simonrvnknow*
13:02.28thebughmm ok
13:02.40simonrvntakes CIDR
13:02.50thebugthe default for that is 127.0.0.1/8
13:02.52simonrvnoh wait
13:03.10thebugI don't want it empty, I'd want it to be -my- IP, right?
13:03.18simonrvnwell, seems to work 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
13:03.25thebugas well as 127.0.0.1/8
13:03.26simonrvnyes
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13:05.07thebugthis is really strange
13:05.31thebugthat doesn't do it either ... it still binds only to localhost:25
13:05.45thebugand I have inet_interfaces = all
13:07.25simonrvnhmm, did you try complete stop, then start?
13:07.38thebugaha!
13:07.39simonrvnother than that, ask #postfix
13:07.53thebuga sendmail process was still hanging out on port 25
13:07.56simonrvni guess you figured it out =)
13:07.58simonrvnah
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13:37.04mrwickso I've been using debian and apt for some time now..
13:37.31mrwickI'm comfortable with it.. and have read through the howto and manual..
13:37.50mrwick<PROTECTED>
13:38.25mrwickanyway: I wonder if there is a way to get packages to not link themselves to start up when I apt-get upgrade
13:39.15mrwick. . maybe something in the /etc/apt/preferences file that tells certain packages I don't
13:39.47mrwickwant them to update-rc.d . . because I end up update-rc.d -f'ing the packages after they're upgraded. .
13:39.57mrwickanyone here know what I'm talking about?
13:42.27simonrvnyes.... and no, you can't.
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13:45.13mrwickthanks
13:47.58jrrnon-us doesn't exist anymore, correct?
13:48.35simonrvnno, it doesn't. /msg dpkg crypto in main
13:49.28jrrdpkg doesn't like that
13:49.48Bor_Edsimonrvn: long time no see :o
13:49.54simonrvnhi
13:50.14simonrvn. busy, and weird sleep shit. too fucking hot
13:50.19Bor_Edis canada as hot as northern europe
13:50.25Bor_Edahh
13:50.30simonrvnalso the dsl was out due to bell fuckage
13:50.52Bor_EdI know that figure...
13:50.52simonrvn21 ATM, going to ~30
13:50.54simonrvn...
13:51.09Bor_Edhere dsl box overheated and I've had to put a fan to cool it down... and this is the country of polar bears :D
13:51.18simonrvnand IT DOESN'T FUCKING LET UP LONG ENOUGH TO ENJOY IT
13:51.53dk0r_Anyone have any problems on a power book where windows open by themselves, and things highlight themselves. and there is just erratic behavior
13:51.53simonrvnyah. heh. i have a fan going on the main box... fixed the cpu while we were down, now it's much cooler running
13:51.57Bor_Edbrb, kid's waking up
13:52.01simonrvnok
13:52.08jrrsk1p: sounds like mouse
13:52.12simonrvnfix your mouse
13:52.20jrruh, dk0r_ that is
13:52.24simonrvnimps2, /dev/input/mice
13:52.30jrri think the crazy bumps on this keyboard got me again
13:52.50dk0r_jrr: what do u mean???
13:53.05simonrvndk0r_: ^^^^
13:53.12jrrabout the keyboard, this beige g3 has bumps on d and k instead of f and j
13:53.23jrrabout mouse, idunno =]
13:53.34dk0r_im new to linux, what does  "imps2, /dev/input/mice" mean ?
13:53.41jrrhey what's the correct way to set date/time?
13:53.58simonrvnmeans that's the mouse settintgs for x
13:54.02simonrvnsettings
13:54.12dk0r_are misconfigured?
13:55.01simonrvnyour mouse is behaving erratically BECAUSE it's misconfigured
13:55.15jrrdebianppc:/home/jrr# date
13:55.19jrrTue Jan  6 05:00:10 EST 1970
13:55.30jrri think my battery is going
13:55.32simonrvnman date; /s
13:55.36simonrvn;p
13:55.44simonrvn-s option. sets it
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13:59.11dk0r_say again. i got kicked
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13:59.20dk0r_mouse is misconfiged. how do i fix it?
13:59.40simonrvnsimonrvn your mouse is behaving erratically BECAUSE it's misconfigured
14:00.02dk0r_understood
14:00.08dk0r_now how do i fix it?
14:00.27simonrvn@drxx dk0r_
14:00.27ravenbirddk0r_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
14:00.48dk0r_what is @drxx dk0r_ ?
14:01.14simonrvnread what the bot said...
14:05.00ErRandirdk0r_: have you backed up /etc/X11/XF86Config-4?
14:05.40dk0r_no, thats why i have not proceeded
14:05.57dk0r_its very important i back that config up.. as my lcd took a long time to get working.
14:06.03dk0r_and i dont know settings
14:06.39simonrvni just told you the settings
14:08.27ErRandirhe is using those settings
14:09.21dk0r_hey erandir
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14:09.58ErRandirhi
14:10.11dk0r_did u log in via ssh? or do i have the wrong person
14:10.19dk0r_heh
14:10.55ErRandiryesterday, yes
14:11.20dk0r_got alsa and pbbuttonsd working
14:11.35dk0r_need to fix my mouse, and get wifi going
14:11.43dk0r_the wireless-tools application seems complicated
14:11.45dk0r_is it?/
14:11.57ErRandircan you describe mouse problem?
14:12.16dk0r_ive i hold cursor over the x
14:12.21dk0r_it will close a window
14:12.27dk0r_sometime a new window will open by itself
14:12.32dk0r_highlighting occurs on its own
14:12.39dk0r_feels kinda weird
14:12.42dk0r_overall
14:13.02dk0r_mouse speeds up eratticly
14:13.10simonrvnyeh, misconfigured mouse
14:13.51ErRandirmaybe because of pbbuttonsd?
14:14.22dk0r_ehrm, it felt weird before pbbuttonsd but i dont recall if it highlight, opened window or close windows on its own
14:14.34dk0r_should i try uninstalling pbbuttons d ?
14:15.22ErRandirjust stop it
14:15.35dk0r_"stop pbbuttonsd" ?
14:16.24ErRandirwith "/etc/init.d/pbbuttonsd stop"
14:21.14simonrvni bet it's misconfigured x
14:22.44ErRandiri put in imps/2 and /dev/input/mice in myself just yesterday :/
14:23.03ErRandirbut hes got a 2004 pb
14:23.14simonrvnshouldn't matter
14:24.21ErRandirwasnt sure cause i got a 2002 pb
14:25.24mrwickI've got a 2004 powerbook, and I have no problems.. but I've read man XF86Config and man X
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14:28.21Dk0rrI think it was pbbuttonsd
14:28.59Dk0rrbut, when i stop pbbuttonsd
14:29.06Dk0rrthe brightness button still works
14:29.21Dk0rrfunction+brightness or volume
14:29.53mrwickDk0rr: my fn/brightness works w/out pbuttonsd.. I am not fond of pbuttonsd
14:30.34mrwickI _do_ like mouseemu, though :-)
14:31.02Dk0rrok. well my powerbook is a 17" with the illuminated keys
14:31.05Dk0rrhowm do iget that working?
14:31.42Dk0rralso can i change it so that command+w closes the currently active window
14:31.53Dk0rrand command+Q quits the currently active windows application
14:32.07mrwickDk0rr: have you got google?
14:32.13Dk0rr...ya?
14:32.27ErRandirits somewhere in the gnome settings
14:32.27Dk0rri dont know temrinology in which to search with
14:32.45Dk0rryeah, you mentioned that yesterday ErRandir, but i couldnt find gnome settings
14:33.19ErRandirApplication->Desktop Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
14:33.27ErRandirI updated my gnome :)
14:33.30mrwickDk0rr: try typing the questions you type in here into google and see what happens
14:33.48Dk0rrbut thanks anyways
14:35.05mrwicknice.. that will teach me to help
14:35.31Dk0rrsaying google.com is not "help"
14:35.45Dk0rrits not lack thereof
14:35.47Dk0rrthe*
14:37.08ErRandirits not nice to ignoe people who try to help
14:37.41Dk0rr<mrwick> Dk0rr: have you got google?
14:37.41Dk0rr<Dk0rr> ...ya?
14:37.42Dk0rr<mrwick> Dk0rr: have you got google?
14:37.43Dk0rr<Dk0rr> ...ya?
14:37.51Dk0rr<mrwick> Dk0rr: have you got google?
14:37.53Dk0rrthats help?
14:38.10Dk0rrsorry for. control v got stuck
14:38.25ErRandiryes thats help too
14:38.25mrwickit's helping me to research your problem for you
14:38.43Dk0rrwhich problem are you addressing?
14:38.51Dk0rri listed a few
14:40.01Dk0rrTrying going into keyboard shortcuts
14:40.10Dk0rrand assinging command+w to something
14:40.19Dk0rrfor me when i hit command it shows super
14:40.38Dk0rrand then when i hit W, it scrolls up to the "Window Management" section
14:41.04Dk0rrleaving the assigned key, in my case close window, as command
14:41.49Dk0rrerandir, could i ask you walkme through on last thing? wireless-tools setup? i know all my wifi info, i just dont know the format in which to enter it
14:43.21ErRandirnot very familiar with that :(
14:43.54Dk0rrheh, cant find my card right now anyways
14:43.57Dk0rrwhat about the assigned key
14:44.04Dk0rrnot taking command+w but only command ?
14:45.33Dk0rrerandir: mouse is not config'd proper
14:45.36Dk0rrpbbuttonsd is stopped
14:45.45Dk0rrautomatically scrools
14:45.48Dk0rrscrolls*
14:45.52Dk0rrand selects windows
14:46.21Dk0rrautomatically clicking and holding
14:46.30ErRandirnot sure whats going wrong there
14:46.38ErRandiri think your X is configured right
14:47.08Dk0rrhow do i back up xfree86config-4 ?
14:47.32ErRandirjust copy it to your $HOME
14:48.03Dk0rrwhats search command?
14:48.12Dk0rrto find the dir its located in?
14:50.29Dk0rr.
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15:14.36Dk0rrCan anyone explain to me why in the keyboard shortcuts utility, when i try to assign command+w to "close window" it only accepts the command button and disregards the W ? ( im on ppc )
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17:31.16Dk0rranyone got a minute to loginto my machine via ssh and take a look @ my XF86Config-4 ?
17:31.20Dk0rrMy screen has grown jittery :(
17:32.03simonrvnprobably too slow
17:32.09Dk0rrwell
17:32.13Dk0rri just restarted it
17:32.15Dk0rrand it looks fine
17:32.19Dk0rrweird
17:33.00Dk0rrhow do i bind keys to copy and paste?
17:33.08Dk0rrie. command+c, command+v ?
17:33.12Dk0rrcommand
17:33.16Dk0rr+a select all
17:34.55Dk0rrNothing in Applications > Desktop Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
17:35.40simonrvnuse control
17:35.56Dk0rri cant map it to command?
17:36.43simonrvnwhy would you want it to, it's already mapped to stuff - ctrl-v is paste, etc.
17:36.53Dk0rrcause its a powerbook
17:37.04Dk0rrthats why
17:37.07Dk0rrit has the command key
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17:37.14Dk0rrwhich i am used to when using this laptop
17:37.20Dk0rrthats why i would want too
17:37.30simonrvnyou're using a different OS, live with it
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17:37.40Dk0rroh wow! thats a great linux mentality!
17:38.05simonrvni use command for other sutff. in mock os, i use command, what's so hard about that?
17:38.13woodeni wish ppc a flashplayer :O
17:38.19woodenthat works :>
17:38.32simonrvngo sign the petition
17:38.46Dk0rrppc has no flash support?
17:38.53woodennot realy
17:38.55Dk0rrdamn.
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17:39.22Dk0rrhey wooden: do you know how to bind keys to copy and paste?  ie. command+c, command+v ?
17:39.27simonrvnnot good support (i don't care for flash, but others do, so i tel lthem to go sign the petition, which i've done)
17:39.27Dk0rrNothing in Applications > Desktop Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
17:39.28Dk0rr<simonrvn> use control
17:39.48simonrvnand FYI, i couldn't give a crap what you thought of my 'attitude'
17:39.53woodeni use in linux x86 layout
17:39.59Dk0rrfantastic simonrvn!
17:40.14Dk0rrwooden: well do you know how to remap anyways?
17:40.24Dk0rrwooden: if you want to change control+c to alt+c
17:40.31simonrvnkeep annoying me....
17:40.40woodenthats ugly :)
17:40.49Dk0rrignores*
17:41.00Dk0rrwooden: its a hypothetical
17:41.12Dk0rrwooden: do u know how?
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17:41.30woodenive tried some changes but not on the current linux
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17:41.41simonrvnwoops, a little tight
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17:46.33Bor_Edmmm
17:46.53Bor_Edsummer clean up ?
17:47.11simonrvn*sigh*
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17:48.35simonrvnman, 3 of the 7 bans here were from rr.com...
17:48.47simonrvnwere/are
17:48.47Bor_Edwhy not to fix the thing once and for good ? :)
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17:48.59simonrvntempting ;p
17:49.04Bor_Edhehe, I bet
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17:49.46Bor_Edis it possible to have that permanent unvoiced for user (can't write a thing to a chan where the mode is set for the mask) ?
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17:50.15simonrvnyeh, +q
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17:50.25simonrvna modifed ban, basically
17:50.33Bor_Edright
17:50.34simonrvnhi
17:51.22simonrvnanyway, gtg. see ya later
17:51.41Bor_Edlater
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20:25.52gnusosahi
20:26.15gnusosaanyone knows an ibook kernel package to date
20:26.23gnusosawhere i can download it
20:26.35gnusosacause i cant boot the ones that i compile
20:26.40gnusosa??
20:27.15gnusosahi??
20:35.12Curaltonin apt?
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20:46.45gnusosayeah
20:46.51gnusosaor i dont know
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21:54.36demonanyone know why it is that the new udev package in unstable requires a kernel that's not available in packaged form?
21:57.36Q-FUNKbecause the package maintainer is an idiot?
22:20.34Curaltonhah
22:20.41Curaltonyeh, thats wonderful :)
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23:16.17DarkNoiseanyone here have a ido of masoc 9.0 or above?
23:16.19DarkNoise*iso
23:16.28DarkNoise*macos
23:16.40DarkNoiseim so dyslexic today
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