| 00:05.43 | fman | anyone about to help me with a module-build problem |
| 00:10.12 | piem | fman: module-assistant ? :-) |
| 00:10.21 | fman | :) |
| 00:10.25 | fman | well, when I do this |
| 00:10.42 | fman | m-a a-i zaptel-source -k /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.11-powerpc |
| 00:10.46 | fman | it fails with this |
| 00:10.48 | fman | /bin/sh: /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.11-powerpc/scripts/gcc-version.sh: ▒ │ No such file or directory |
| 00:10.58 | fman | m-a installed the headers for me |
| 00:11.05 | fman | so would like to think they are correct |
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| 00:13.29 | piem | fman: well there doesn't seem to be such file indeed |
| 00:13.46 | pfizur | Anyone bored and care to help me with a boot issone on a PowerMac 8600? |
| 00:14.08 | piem | fman: maybe you can try to build it without m-a then |
| 00:14.28 | fman | same errors |
| 00:14.55 | piem | then the rules in the module source needs fixing |
| 00:14.56 | fman | make -C SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/zaptel modules |
| 00:14.56 | fman | make: *** SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/zaptel: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 00:14.56 | fman | make: *** [linux26] Error 2 |
| 00:15.30 | piem | have you uncompressed the module source ? |
| 00:15.43 | fman | ye |
| 00:15.56 | fman | this is doing a make;make install from inside /usr/src/modules/zaptel |
| 00:16.20 | fman | BTW just upgraded from 2.4.27 to 2.6.11 |
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| 00:17.12 | piem | what happens if you type debuild in that dir? |
| 00:17.27 | fman | command not found |
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| 00:18.00 | simonrvn | hi sourdough |
| 00:18.29 | fman | ok, got debuild installed now |
| 00:18.33 | sourdough | hi |
| 00:18.38 | fman | lets see if it breaks again |
| 00:18.59 | fman | ok, fails with dh_clean: I have no package to build |
| 00:20.19 | piem | you probably need to precise KVERS and KDIR, something like that |
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| 00:21.02 | fman | I can't believe it is this hard to build a kernel module |
| 00:21.02 | fman | :( |
| 00:21.32 | piem | well, it seems you face a broken one |
| 00:21.44 | fman | you can say that again |
| 00:21.50 | piem | well, it seems you face a broken one |
| 00:21.54 | fman | :) |
| 00:22.15 | fman | could it be upgrading from 2.4.27 to 2.6.11 has disturbed somthing |
| 00:22.25 | fman | m-a seems to think something is up |
| 00:22.40 | piem | i assume you updated m-a since? |
| 00:22.44 | fman | it asks to install the correct headers during prepare, then bitches that they arn't installed |
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| 00:48.20 | fman | hmm, I don't even have a scripts directory inside my headers |
| 00:48.22 | fman | should I have? |
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| 01:07.13 | Jebediah | Howdy. I'm trying to install on a 9500 (old world) but the boot.img I found does not boot and I can't find boot-floppy-hfs.img or its equiv. Am I getting from the wrong place? |
| 01:27.13 | fman | ok - lets see if m-a will build anything at all |
| 01:31.10 | fman | m-a bitches that Warning, /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.11 seems to contain unconfigured kernel |
| 01:31.22 | fman | hmm, I copied config-2.6.11 to /usr/src/linux/.config |
| 01:42.00 | piem | fman, you should remove the kernel-source package unless you build it |
| 01:42.13 | piem | and use the kernel-headers instead |
| 01:42.40 | fman | ok |
| 01:43.56 | fman | still get a message from m-a -> Bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could not be found |
| 01:43.58 | fman | wtf |
| 01:45.20 | Jebediah | apt-get update? |
| 01:45.56 | fman | yep |
| 01:46.05 | fman | I can't build any modules usign m-a |
| 01:46.12 | fman | so somthing very borked |
| 01:48.00 | fman | same error for them all..../usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.11-powerpc/scripts/gcc-version.sh |
| 01:49.19 | fman | anyone here running 2.6.11 ? |
| 01:50.29 | Jebediah | I had recently, not under ppc though |
| 01:50.35 | fman | ok, looking in apt-cache there is kernel-headers-2.6 which seems to contain the missing directory |
| 01:50.41 | fman | however 2.6.11 kernel headers has sfa |
| 01:51.08 | Jebediah | sounds like a bad package? |
| 01:51.14 | fman | could be |
| 01:51.54 | Jebediah | so maybe you can get unstable packages for those? |
| 01:51.59 | Jebediah | the kernel stuff |
| 01:52.55 | fman | 2.6.8 looks ok |
| 01:52.59 | fman | 2.6.11 looks broken |
| 01:53.41 | fman | unless 2.6.11 is a diff of the two |
| 02:03.16 | Jebediah | it shouldn't be a diff |
| 02:03.20 | fman | hmm |
| 02:03.26 | Jebediah | why not just use 2.6.8? |
| 02:03.34 | fman | I think I will |
| 02:04.03 | fman | hmm |
| 02:04.10 | fman | there isn't kernel-headers for 2.6.8 |
| 02:04.24 | fman | ops |
| 02:04.26 | fman | yes there is |
| 02:05.51 | fman | hmm, why is there kernel-headers-2.6.11-powerpc and only a kernel-headers-2.6.8 |
| 02:05.55 | fman | not powerpc specific |
| 02:06.34 | fman | ok |
| 02:06.42 | fman | going to boot this machine back to 2.6.8 |
| 02:08.12 | Jebediah | :) |
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| 02:12.34 | fman | right, see if thats any better |
| 02:13.25 | fman | hmm, now we strike another problem |
| 02:13.42 | fman | it is trying to download kernel headers for 2.6.8-powerpc which don't exist |
| 02:14.31 | Jebediah | change apt repository? |
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| 02:15.38 | fman | well, I'm using ftp.debian.org |
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| 02:17.39 | Jebediah | that's the one they all sync from :S |
| 02:18.00 | fman | looks to somthing very broken with the kernel headers stuff |
| 02:18.22 | fman | ok, so anyone running 2.6.8 then on ppc here |
| 02:26.49 | piem | fman: reportbug, blame the maintainer :-\ |
| 02:28.07 | fman | I would |
| 02:28.17 | fman | sven is awol fo the next 2 weeks |
| 02:28.30 | fman | however how does everyone else here build kernel modules then? |
| 02:29.50 | fman | ok, this looks like what has been done |
| 02:29.51 | fman | http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/06/msg00133.html |
| 02:30.50 | fman | so, 2.6.11-headers-powerpc looks to only have flavour specfic stuff |
| 02:33.31 | fman | probably need to merge these in with the generic headers |
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| 02:44.52 | piem | fman, http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/07/msg00216.html :-\ |
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| 02:51.17 | fman | ok, got the kernel-source and did a make-kpkg modules_image |
| 02:51.22 | fman | and that has build the module |
| 02:53.37 | fman | but it installed it in /lib/modules/2.6.8 |
| 02:53.42 | fman | not 2.6.8-powerpc/ |
| 02:53.44 | fman | feck |
| 02:53.48 | fman | going in circles |
| 02:56.17 | piem | make-kpkg --append-to-version -powerpc |
| 02:56.18 | piem | iirc |
| 02:57.01 | piem | you could set --revision while you're at it |
| 02:57.12 | piem | needs a clean i'm afraid |
| 03:00.13 | fman | no probs |
| 03:00.21 | fman | will append and run it again |
| 03:04.30 | fman | hmm, does make-kpkg look for .config in the /usr/src/linux directory |
| 03:04.54 | fman | when I run this it prompts me with questions to make .config |
| 03:05.39 | fman | hmm, only prompted me for module maturity stuff |
| 03:05.42 | fman | then its away |
| 03:05.49 | fman | ok, building this against 2.6.11 |
| 03:08.09 | piem | fman: you could grab the config from /boot |
| 03:08.22 | fman | yep |
| 03:08.23 | fman | have |
| 03:08.30 | fman | it prompted me once though |
| 03:08.35 | fman | which is fine |
| 03:08.39 | fman | 2.6.8 didn't though :0 |
| 03:09.46 | fman | ok, that made me a nice zapel.deb file |
| 03:09.57 | fman | and placed it in /lib/modules/2.6.11-powerpc/zaptel |
| 03:10.06 | fman | modprobe can't do a modprobe zaptel |
| 03:10.14 | fman | guess it is looking futher inside this directory |
| 03:11.39 | piem | depmod -a ? |
| 03:11.50 | piem | what does modprobe says ? |
| 03:11.58 | fman | ah, thanks |
| 03:11.58 | fman | :) |
| 03:12.01 | fman | didn't update it |
| 03:12.13 | fman | ok that installed it |
| 03:12.14 | fman | thanks |
| 03:12.23 | fman | so, to get that to load at boot? |
| 03:12.27 | fman | place it in modules.conf? |
| 03:12.32 | piem | bug in zaptel, it should have run depmod :-) |
| 03:12.35 | piem | NO! |
| 03:12.38 | piem | /etc/modules |
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| 03:12.48 | piem | do NOT edit modules.conf |
| 03:12.57 | piem | ever! :-) |
| 03:12.58 | fman | yep, thanks |
| 03:12.59 | fman | :) |
| 03:13.06 | fman | yeah, there is a nice warning at the top of the file |
| 03:13.19 | fman | this machien just runs to well, and I don't get time to play with it |
| 03:13.24 | fman | so, I keep forgetting shit |
| 03:15.01 | foodluver | anyone have any links for a download of the debian ppc install disk |
| 03:15.50 | piem | http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
| 03:16.02 | piem | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-powerpc-businesscard.iso |
| 03:17.00 | foodluver | which one is just the boot dick |
| 03:17.02 | foodluver | disk* |
| 03:17.27 | piem | that one. read http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/ for more info |
| 03:17.36 | piem | interesting typo :-) |
| 03:18.03 | foodluver | interesting yes |
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| 09:14.32 | dloer | damn debian |
| 09:25.32 | simonrvn | damned incompetent users ;p |
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| 11:29.20 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: you know fastest way to duplicate an audio cd in console ? |
| 11:29.40 | Bor_Ed | does that work like data (dd and cdrecord the image ) ? |
| 11:29.50 | simonrvn | should. data is data |
| 11:30.09 | Bor_Ed | I'm conserned about the cd-da thingies in there... oh well, got to try :D |
| 11:30.31 | Bor_Ed | i/o error |
| 11:31.11 | Bor_Ed | and cd plays with cdcd... hrm... prolly have to rip and burn |
| 11:33.17 | simonrvn | what kernel is that? |
| 11:33.21 | simonrvn | version |
| 11:33.32 | Bor_Ed | Linux version 2.6.12 (root@g3) (gcc version 3.4.5 20050605 (prerelease) (Debian 3.4.4-0)) #1 Sun Jun 19 14:07:11 EEST 2005 |
| 11:33.39 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 11:34.00 | Bor_Ed | cdda2wav extracts it ok too |
| 11:34.52 | simonrvn | i've been seeing i/o errors here too, same version, similar gcc, (though 3.3.6, not 3.4.5) |
| 11:35.18 | simonrvn | the drive is good, so i dunno what's going on |
| 11:35.39 | simonrvn | nothing in kern.log, or anywhere else that shows bad stuff happening |
| 11:35.47 | Bor_Ed | bleh, I'll rip and burn on gcombust, it at least has some clue about the operation |
| 11:36.01 | simonrvn | i've used grip successfully several times |
| 11:36.12 | Bor_Ed | grip is ok... so is cdparanoia :D |
| 11:36.29 | simonrvn | oh, yeh, but you want to re-burn it after |
| 11:36.36 | Bor_Ed | though gcombust seems to duplicate the cd right away |
| 11:36.44 | simonrvn | yeh, grip uses it as a backend ;) (cdparanoia) |
| 11:37.24 | Bor_Ed | geebus, the gcombust decided to try burning to the source cd... |
| 11:37.33 | simonrvn | i gotta get back to fixing the blog here. an upgrade fucked up, but luckily no data loss |
| 11:37.37 | Bor_Ed | oh well, got to use grip |
| 11:39.19 | Bor_Ed | rip only and burn on gcombust :I |
| 11:41.08 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: i have read and written audio-CD data with "cdda2wav" and "cdrecord", but never attempted to make bit-perfect copy |
| 11:41.36 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: it's pahat pojat soundtrack to one co-worker |
| 11:43.52 | Bor_Ed | like bit or 10 corrupted would make my life any harder :D |
| 11:45.15 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: and i always used rewritable media :) |
| 11:45.32 | Bor_Ed | one shot to 80min cd-r :P |
| 11:50.30 | Bor_Ed | ok, ripped... now lets see if I can burn it too |
| 11:55.20 | Bor_Ed | 137 secs and burned and playing in cd player :D |
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| 13:39.38 | aba | piem: is the issue still open? |
| 13:40.13 | piem | aba: which one ? |
| 13:40.28 | aba | something with people on debconf?? |
| 13:41.11 | piem | sven seems a bit frustrated atm: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/07/msg00231.html |
| 13:46.21 | piem | aba: i was going to reply that he should not be bitching so badly for a start |
| 13:47.09 | piem | sort of what i already did there: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/07/msg00217.html |
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| 15:08.41 | reuben | hi |
| 15:08.47 | reuben | whats an oldworld powermac? |
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| 15:34.57 | demon | oldworld is PCI-based, but not newworld; i.e., if it's a beige desktop with PCI slots, or a pre-Lombard PowerBook, then it's oldworld |
| 15:35.25 | demon | er... pre-Lombard Powerbook with a PCI bus |
| 15:55.34 | Bor_Ed | any desktop with beige and pc i is oldworld, any lappie with usb is newworld :) |
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| 16:13.33 | simonrvn | it's actually simpler than that. OF versions 3 and up are NW |
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| 16:46.20 | saigon | Hello. |
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| 17:27.33 | jpablo | hey, anyoone can confirm that sid's xorg works in ppc (ibook) ? |
| 17:27.45 | jpablo | (M7) |
| 17:31.28 | reuben | erm |
| 17:31.37 | reuben | mine is big beige g3 is that oldworld? |
| 17:36.29 | jpablo | nop, g3 is newworld |
| 17:37.14 | jpablo | anything with a g3 |
| 17:44.00 | reuben | really beige g3 newworld ubuntu live cd wouldn't work:S |
| 17:47.10 | Bor_Ed | beige g3 is oldworld |
| 17:51.22 | reuben | any way i can use linux on it? |
| 17:52.35 | Bor_Ed | yup, you can either use bootx from mac os or use quik to boot linux as standalone (you might have some luck with quik with scsi boot drive) |
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| 18:08.03 | nickv111 | Hello |
| 18:08.17 | nickv111 | For some reason, X keeps crashing, leaving me this message: http://rafb.net/paste/results/kUmrzu58.html |
| 18:08.22 | nickv111 | Well, these messages |
| 18:08.34 | nickv111 | This is on an Apple iBook running Debian etch |
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