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| 01:40.19 | EMilis | hi for all |
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| 06:01.10 | wardbones | Hey, anybody know why my xserver would run in 1280x960 only when logged in as root? |
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| 06:13.46 | wardbones | Okay, have an idea. have to quit. maybe back later... |
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| 06:29.03 | wardbones | Anybody know Jack and ardour? |
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| 08:45.57 | gausus | re |
| 08:46.09 | gausus | did anyone of you install debian on xserve g5 ? |
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| 08:49.54 | simonrvn | i wish ;) |
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| 10:05.23 | ErRandir | wardbones: know jack but not ardour. you may want to ask on #lad |
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| 12:01.08 | Bor_Ed | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 12:01.08 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.15 | Bor_Ed | whoopee, sid borked well ? :) |
| 12:25.17 | simonrvn | yes it did. been like that for a while due to C++ ABI change, and a bunch of zlib shit (DSAs), ...., then been busy. and ftp-master is up, but no dinstall for some reason. |
| 12:30.34 | _rene_ | dinstall ran, no mirror pulse, tough |
| 12:30.46 | _rene_ | Bor_Ed: welcome in the C++ ABI transition :-P |
| 12:34.58 | simonrvn | ah i see. thanks |
| 12:35.13 | simonrvn | marsi ;) |
| 12:45.25 | Q-FUNK | _rene_: funny, I was wondering about the mirror pulsing. |
| 12:45.41 | aba | _rene_: i had a mirror pulse. But the pulse is delayed ... |
| 12:47.31 | Q-FUNK | delayed? bugs? |
| 12:48.25 | aba | Q-FUNK: no. migration of some dbs from woody to sarge, which delayed it a bit. |
| 12:49.03 | _rene_ | ah, yes. now sh mirror.sh does something |
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| 13:36.34 | harfooz | hi all. I have a fresh installation of 3.1 on a G4 Sawtooth, but no sound. I've installed alsa-base, alsa-oss and discover, and turned up volume and speaker in Gnome's Volume Control. I need some help. |
| 13:38.07 | SimonRaven | edit /etc/modules this way... |
| 13:38.49 | SimonRaven | have 'snd-powermac' in it, and make sure dmasound-* isn't there. |
| 13:38.53 | SimonRaven | what kernel is this? |
| 13:39.03 | harfooz | checking now ... |
| 13:39.13 | SimonRaven | uname -r |
| 13:39.13 | harfooz | Linux sawtooth 2.6.8-powerpc #1 Sun Mar 20 14:09:41 CET 2005 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 13:39.39 | SimonRaven | yeh, ok. so native alsa :) |
| 13:39.52 | SimonRaven | (there were 2.4 patches for alsa) |
| 13:40.16 | harfooz | I have four lines in the /etc/modules file: ide-cd, ide-disk, ide-generic, and snd-powermac |
| 13:40.31 | harfooz | dma-sound-* is not there. |
| 13:40.40 | SimonRaven | ok, so should work. do lsmod | grep dmasound and tells if anything comes out, and what it is |
| 13:40.59 | SimonRaven | just a line or two :) |
| 13:41.14 | harfooz | nothing returned |
| 13:42.22 | harfooz | I'm back at my root prompt without any output from lsmod | grep dmasound. |
| 13:42.38 | SimonRaven | ok. means it isn't there |
| 13:43.12 | SimonRaven | do you have alsamixer installed? |
| 13:43.27 | harfooz | let me check (I bet not) ... |
| 13:43.29 | SimonRaven | iuf not |
| 13:43.33 | SimonRaven | *if |
| 13:43.37 | SimonRaven | @installit |
| 13:43.38 | ravenbird | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 13:46.01 | harfooz | apt-cache search returns two packages available: alsamixergui and gnome-alsamixer. |
| 13:46.48 | harfooz | I'm installing both of those right now. |
| 13:48.04 | harfooz | ok -- all installed and I have alsamixer installed as well. |
| 13:48.05 | SimonRaven | sure, np |
| 13:48.16 | SimonRaven | run that and unmute it |
| 13:48.27 | SimonRaven | it's mute by default) |
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| 13:52.03 | harfooz | I've got the follwing settings now: Master 73, Mic Boos 100, PC Speak 73, Capture 100, and can't adjust any of the other items. |
| 13:53.06 | SimonRaven | press F5 |
| 13:53.28 | harfooz | ok -- nothing happened |
| 13:53.50 | SimonRaven | you can scroll more to see more of the settings |
| 13:56.08 | harfooz | These three levels are now displaying (in addition to the others mentioned) Headphon, Line, CD, Mic |
| 13:57.34 | harfooz | but I am not able to adjust any of those additional levels. |
| 13:59.04 | harfooz | there is an alsa configurator -- should I run that? |
| 14:08.12 | harfooz | I've run alsaconf and selected it says ALSA is ready to use. Then I went back to alsamixer and tried adjusting the levels. |
| 14:15.25 | SimonRaven | you might need to press m on some of them. they should show muted if they are. else, you gotta look it up if it has any issues with alsa, you machine |
| 14:17.26 | harfooz | ok -- I've pressed m on each of items and that changed them to MM and the Item is labeled OFF, so I pressed m to get them all on. |
| 14:18.20 | harfooz | is there a location that alsa messages would be sent to? tail -f /var/logmessages doesn't show any sound related messages there. |
| 14:21.23 | SimonRaven | no |
| 14:21.43 | SimonRaven | one more thing to try. do /etc/init.d/alsa restart |
| 14:21.48 | harfooz | ok |
| 14:22.55 | SimonRaven | AFK |
| 14:22.58 | SimonRaven | bbiab |
| 14:26.07 | harfooz | I've got to run to a meeting, but will get back at this G4 later on. |
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| 14:28.35 | sktrdie | ok guys |
| 14:28.41 | sktrdie | my powerbook works very well with debian |
| 14:28.49 | sktrdie | basically I was able to make everything work |
| 14:28.54 | sktrdie | everything I need at least |
| 14:29.04 | sktrdie | ohter than bluetooth |
| 14:29.06 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 14:29.17 | sktrdie | anyway, I dunno why but GNOME is got messed up |
| 14:29.23 | sktrdie | so I would prefer to delete gnome |
| 14:29.27 | sktrdie | and reinstall it |
| 14:29.45 | SimonRaven | install a wm, or xfce4, or something |
| 14:31.14 | sktrdie | well I like GNOME |
| 14:31.24 | sktrdie | i just think I isntalled an unstable version |
| 14:31.27 | sktrdie | so I want to resintall it |
| 14:31.32 | sktrdie | how do I do that in Debina? |
| 14:34.17 | sktrdie | how do I do that in Debina? |
| 14:34.21 | sktrdie | *Debian |
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| 14:49.41 | pahartik | sktrdie: purge it and then choose older version? |
| 15:11.39 | sktrdie | pahartik: how I purge it? |
| 15:14.00 | SimonRaven | man dpkg, man apt-get. 'apt-get install less' as root. use / to search; '/remove' and '/purge' |
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| 16:35.41 | Q-FUNK | pretty weird, those PPC mkisofs options |
| 16:36.30 | Bor_Ed | Q-FUNK: want to build http://www.mwiacek.com/gsm/soft/gammu.html deb for me ? :) |
| 16:44.23 | SimonRaven | Bor_Ed: http://cihar.com/debian/ |
| 16:44.31 | SimonRaven | get source, build from that |
| 16:44.41 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: check the link again... |
| 16:44.44 | Bor_Ed | I did already |
| 16:45.02 | Bor_Ed | I can get the source but I'd really like to have .deb and I don't have the skills to do that |
| 16:45.27 | SimonRaven | dhttp://debian.cihar.com/ |
| 16:45.57 | Bor_Ed | gee |
| 16:46.00 | Bor_Ed | thanks :) |
| 16:46.23 | SimonRaven | i'll build it if you like |
| 16:46.45 | Bor_Ed | danke |
| 16:47.07 | Bor_Ed | I wanna see if it's better than smstools and scmcxx |
| 17:03.34 | SimonRaven | argh. build-dep on build-dep |
| 17:03.47 | SimonRaven | and not enough info |
| 17:03.50 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 17:04.02 | Bor_Ed | well, wammu seems to be noarch package so I'll try it |
| 17:04.13 | Bor_Ed | mmm, ~30 deps not met |
| 17:06.21 | Bor_Ed | one being python-wammu :I |
| 17:06.53 | SimonRaven | need import Wammu |
| 17:07.33 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: is that supposed to be better than "gnokii"? |
| 17:08.04 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: well I don't tend to speak to rubber boots and gnokii only supports such devices :P |
| 17:08.49 | Bor_Ed | gammu is universal phone client... ericsson, nokia, siemens and AT based phones are supported |
| 17:09.03 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: that is good |
| 17:09.20 | SimonRaven | need to get source of python-gammu, build that, then build on top of that |
| 17:09.21 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 17:09.58 | Bor_Ed | the console app for siemens doesn't even manage the flash on the phone correctly, I'm hoping gammu would be a bit smarter |
| 17:10.23 | SimonRaven | getting on it |
| 17:10.28 | Bor_Ed | mmm |
| 17:11.05 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: is this "Mygnokii2/Gammu" GUI application? |
| 17:11.11 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 17:11.31 | Bor_Ed | wammu is supposed to be console app after brief reading |
| 17:40.24 | SimonRaven | ok, building gammu now |
| 17:40.42 | Bor_Ed | mmm |
| 17:40.47 | SimonRaven | should spout out some more stuff after, then i can build wammu and other shit |
| 17:41.33 | Bor_Ed | gammu is the one I really was after... wammu seems to be 'lite' version of it |
| 17:44.14 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 17:44.15 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 17:46.20 | sktrdie | can anyone help me reinstall GNOME? |
| 17:47.02 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: i think i am interested to try "Gammu" with my Nokia 6310i |
| 17:47.03 | sktrdie | im having some troubles.. I think I accidently installed an unstable version of GNOME, so I want to reinstall it |
| 17:47.03 | sktrdie | any ideas? |
| 17:47.03 | pahartik | sktrdie: yes |
| 17:47.05 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: I'm interested to see the result on siemens cf62 ... scmcxx console app is limited at best :I |
| 17:47.27 | sktrdie | pahartik: ive read the manual pages, but cant seem to do it |
| 17:47.44 | sktrdie | i tried |
| 17:47.48 | sktrdie | apt-get remove gnome |
| 17:47.55 | sktrdie | but it says that gnome is not isntalled ??? |
| 17:48.04 | sktrdie | that package gnome is not isntalled |
| 17:48.22 | Bor_Ed | it's probably gnome2 |
| 17:48.31 | pahartik | sktrdie: you have to remove packages "gnome" consists of |
| 17:49.04 | sktrdie | .. |
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| 17:49.44 | pahartik | sktrdie: "dpkg --list | grep gnome" to begin with |
| 17:50.59 | sktrdie | that displays all the packages with "gnome" inside |
| 17:51.09 | sktrdie | but I want to reinstall just the desktop environment |
| 17:53.34 | sktrdie | .. |
| 17:53.39 | SimonRaven | Bor_Ed: ok, uploaded. should be able to fetch it - more info: http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src/ |
| 17:53.50 | Bor_Ed | danke |
| 17:53.53 | pahartik | sktrdie: "http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/gnome-desktop-environment" lists packages that "gnome-desktop-environment" depends on |
| 17:54.02 | SimonRaven | use aptitude, it's easier. then find libgnome in it |
| 17:54.20 | SimonRaven | remove that (use -), and the nthe gnome stuff will go |
| 17:54.38 | SimonRaven | Bor_Ed: np |
| 17:54.49 | pahartik | sktrdie: remove them or choose earlier versions by hand at "aptitude" |
| 17:55.13 | SimonRaven | pahartik: be my guest, too, if you wanna try it out |
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| 17:57.22 | pahartik | SimonRaven: i rarely have problems understanding how to recursively upgrade or downgrade things by hand on "aptitude" |
| 17:57.28 | sktrdie | SimonRaven: so deleting libgnome will delete gnome? and after that what do I do to reinstall GNOME? |
| 17:57.32 | sktrdie | i just want to reinstall |
| 17:57.45 | SimonRaven | pahartik: it's easy |
| 17:59.34 | pahartik | SimonRaven: ok, you talked about new package and not "gnome-desktop-environment"... |
| 18:00.04 | SimonRaven | eh? oh no, just the search terms in aptitude. libgnome* ;) |
| 18:01.05 | SimonRaven | libgnome2-0 is the right name |
| 18:11.57 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: your source is getting Ign here :o |
| 18:12.44 | SimonRaven | probably doesn't have the tarballs and other stuff there. running almost exclusively off debpool now |
| 18:13.19 | Bor_Ed | got direct wget urls handy ? |
| 18:13.32 | SimonRaven | sec |
| 18:13.39 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src/debian/pool/main/g/gammu/ |
| 18:14.06 | SimonRaven | FYI, it's organised a lot like a debian mirror |
| 18:14.46 | Bor_Ed | well, I have pretty little of bandwidth left for surfing currently... though I'll pick pahartik's tip |
| 18:16.48 | Bor_Ed | getting from the dir directly |
| 18:17.10 | SimonRaven | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src/debian/pool/main/g/gammu/libgammu0_1.02.0-0.1_powerpc.deb http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src/debian/pool/main/g/gammu/gammu_1.02.0-0.1_powerpc.deb |
| 18:17.31 | Bor_Ed | 381B/s whoopee :) |
| 18:17.40 | pahartik | SimonRaven: "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gammu: gammu depends on libgammu0 (= 1.02.00-0.0); however: Version of libgammu0 on system is 1.02.0-0.1." |
| 18:17.58 | Bor_Ed | --force ? |
| 18:18.00 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 18:18.03 | SimonRaven | ok. |
| 18:19.04 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: it does not stop binary from working, it is just not "configured" successfully |
| 18:19.16 | Bor_Ed | ookay |
| 18:19.23 | SimonRaven | fixing that up |
| 18:19.28 | Bor_Ed | well, if/when I get 'em down, I' |
| 18:19.38 | Bor_Ed | ll see too |
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| 18:23.17 | SimonRaven | give it a few, should update |
| 18:23.45 | SimonRaven | fetch the 1.02.0-0.0 one. yes, it's a "downgrade", but it won't whine now |
| 18:25.39 | Bor_Ed | as soon as I get the gammu down... estimate is 3 hours now :) |
| 18:26.15 | SimonRaven | 3 hours? you're not on dsl anymore? |
| 18:26.49 | Bor_Ed | 512/512 dsl :) |
| 18:27.19 | SimonRaven | ok. so the same like had the other day |
| 18:27.50 | Bor_Ed | yup... some app is just hogging buggr bandwidth |
| 18:28.03 | SimonRaven | i see |
| 18:28.59 | Bor_Ed | 4 hours now... hmm, something tells me that download stalled :o |
| 18:29.08 | SimonRaven | um. yeh :) |
| 18:33.52 | Bor_Ed | dns lost on retry :) |
| 18:34.20 | Bor_Ed | still gives 404 :o |
| 18:37.13 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: you removed the files on the dir ? |
| 18:39.13 | SimonRaven | it's back |
| 18:41.03 | Bor_Ed | trying to see in the web interface... in couple of hours |
| 18:41.33 | SimonRaven | sorry, hit reload |
| 18:41.55 | SimonRaven | usually i don't have this many problems with it |
| 18:42.24 | SimonRaven | gammu_1.02.0-0.0_powerpc.deb libgammu0_1.02.0-0.0_powerpc.deb |
| 18:42.59 | Bor_Ed | did that ... but buggr doesn't load the site :) privoxy prolly gives timeout in a bit |
| 18:44.07 | SimonRaven | .... |
| 18:44.11 | SimonRaven | i just saw the 403 |
| 18:44.13 | Bor_Ed | 403 forbidden |
| 18:45.23 | Bor_Ed | got rights correct ? |
| 18:46.04 | SimonRaven | now i do ;) |
| 18:46.21 | Bor_Ed | mmmm :) |
| 18:46.37 | Bor_Ed | ~1.3kB/s... woohoo |
| 18:47.10 | SimonRaven | wow. tried using wondershaper on your router? |
| 18:48.12 | Bor_Ed | nope... I have limiter on the gnutella but it seems still to hog udp bandwidth |
| 18:49.01 | Bor_Ed | it doesn't even near the roof of this connection on tcp but udp traffic is the one that gives the headache |
| 18:50.36 | SimonRaven | oh yeh, that's true eh |
| 18:51.10 | Bor_Ed | dunno if even wondershaper can handle udp |
| 18:56.55 | Bor_Ed | you have the wammu-python built too btw ? |
| 18:57.50 | SimonRaven | no. i can build it if you like |
| 18:58.03 | Bor_Ed | if you don't mind |
| 19:09.10 | SimonRaven | it's there src/debian/pool/main/p/python-gammu/python-gammu_0.8_powerpc.deb |
| 19:10.18 | Bor_Ed | ok |
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| 19:12.22 | Bor_Ed | got the all 3 files crawling |
| 19:13.51 | SimonRaven | *sigh*. ok. how do you force dinstall of the version you want? |
| 19:14.17 | SimonRaven | there was a file to put up there... |
| 19:14.18 | Bor_Ed | dinstall ? wassat ? :o |
| 19:14.53 | SimonRaven | not dinstall... the daemon is refusing to install the version i want, and there's a way to tell it to do so, but i'm not sure how |
| 19:15.16 | Bor_Ed | tried force ? |
| 19:15.35 | SimonRaven | i don't know how to force it. |
| 19:15.48 | Bor_Ed | mmm |
| 19:24.08 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: a n00b question for a change... how do I get apt-get to play with ~/ ? I have tons of deps not met :) |
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| 19:36.47 | Bor_Ed | nm, apt-get -f install seems to do the trick |
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| 21:04.51 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: the app seems to work (wammu) :) |
| 21:05.03 | SimonRaven | cool :) |
| 21:06.10 | Bor_Ed | it whines some error codes but does the job |
| 21:07.39 | Bor_Ed | now if there just was a simple gprs gui app available... buggr requires heavy hacking currently to get up on console |
| 21:09.53 | Bor_Ed | hmm, wammu still doesn't handle the phone flash rom... |
| 21:15.05 | Bor_Ed | and it doesn't read sms's ... grmbl |
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| 21:37.36 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: "gprs gui app" for what? |
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| 21:53.43 | karim | h |
| 21:53.45 | karim | hi |
| 21:53.51 | karim | is there a big difference between a G4 350 and G3 400 that would make th G4 impossible to boot the linux system of the G3 |
| 21:53.54 | karim | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.02 | karim | I just put the G3 hd in the G4 and it doesn't boot |
| 21:54.34 | karim | all I know is maybe the /dev/hdX device assignation that might be inversed |
| 21:55.32 | pahartik | karim: G4 OpenFirmware is probably not same version as G3 OpenFirmware... |
| 21:56.11 | pahartik | karim: G4 board is probably different from G3 board... |
| 21:58.25 | cafecalva | I have a question on installing Flash for Firefox under Unbuntu 5.04/Debian, is this the right place ? |
| 22:00.47 | karim | cafecalva, debian people hate ubuntu |
| 22:01.05 | sk1p | uh, do we? |
| 22:01.06 | karim | cafecalva, while it's really identical on 90% of the things |
| 22:01.26 | karim | sk1p, if you talk about ubuntu on #debian you have chanced to be banned |
| 22:01.36 | karim | like talkin about knoppix |
| 22:01.38 | karim | :) |
| 22:01.49 | sk1p | guess that's why i'm not in #debian ;P |
| 22:01.55 | karim | ok :) |
| 22:02.07 | karim | however there is no specific channel for ubuntu ppc |
| 22:02.27 | karim | so here is maybe the right place |
| 22:04.17 | cafecalva | I can't find a PPC version of Flash for Debian, does it simply not exist ? |
| 22:04.49 | Curalton | yep |
| 22:05.03 | karim | but it slowwwww |
| 22:05.07 | karim | it's |
| 22:05.17 | karim | maybe you have a G5 |
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| 23:55.54 | mrwick | isn't there a channel for ubuntu?? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/lists/document_view |
| 23:56.29 | mrwick | oh.. wait, ppc. sorry, I spoke too soon |