| 00:00.00 | SimonRaven | the .bin added a k |
| 00:00.08 | SimonRaven | i unbinned it |
| 00:00.22 | spectie | not the hacked one |
| 00:00.41 | spectie | ok, getting it |
| 00:00.41 | SimonRaven | no, the one i said |
| 00:01.15 | SimonRaven | that's the one |
| 00:01.16 | spectie | k |
| 00:04.35 | spectie | :grind: |
| 00:05.06 | SimonRaven | it doesn't? :( |
| 00:05.10 | spectie | right written |
| 00:05.11 | spectie | :) |
| 00:05.18 | SimonRaven | oh, ok |
| 00:05.26 | spectie | now to boot the mac and wipe the pram |
| 00:05.27 | spectie | 'sec |
| 00:05.45 | SimonRaven | it'll get wiped once mock os boots |
| 00:05.55 | SimonRaven | it's the nature of the os and the box |
| 00:06.04 | spectie | ok |
| 00:06.06 | SimonRaven | er, of version i think |
| 00:06.11 | spectie | its booting |
| 00:06.16 | spectie | mac os in b/w |
| 00:06.17 | spectie | :) |
| 00:06.20 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 00:06.47 | SimonRaven | i think i did that disk image in MOL |
| 00:07.10 | SimonRaven | no, on the 7500 |
| 00:07.30 | SimonRaven | tell me if it does have system disk on it |
| 00:07.50 | spectie | right, loaded into macos, now what... |
| 00:08.03 | SimonRaven | i'll edit my version of the tut to include a link to it if so |
| 00:08.20 | spectie | do i open up disk setup? |
| 00:08.23 | SimonRaven | ok, open up the disk and see |
| 00:08.26 | SimonRaven | no |
| 00:08.58 | spectie | what i am i looking for on the "Disk Tools PPC" disk? |
| 00:09.02 | spectie | (the hdd doesn't appear) |
| 00:09.09 | SimonRaven | it won't |
| 00:09.19 | SimonRaven | 'System Disk' |
| 00:10.04 | spectie | ok |
| 00:10.19 | spectie | i have "Bin Hex", "Drive Setup Light", "System Folder" |
| 00:10.39 | SimonRaven | crap. ok... |
| 00:10.50 | SimonRaven | hold |
| 00:10.50 | spectie | in "System Folder" i have: "Disk Tools 2 Enabler", "Finder", "System" etc. |
| 00:11.05 | SimonRaven | i'll make one up |
| 00:11.08 | spectie | ok |
| 00:11.09 | spectie | thanks |
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| 00:16.57 | SimonRaven | ok, this one just has system disk on it. disktools8+systemdisk.img |
| 00:17.06 | SimonRaven | bootable |
| 00:19.39 | spectie | back |
| 00:19.39 | spectie | ok |
| 00:20.21 | spectie | :download: |
| 00:23.01 | spectie | :write: |
| 00:23.02 | spectie | :boot: |
| 00:25.24 | SimonRaven | duh... had one there already |
| 00:25.34 | SimonRaven | no biggie |
| 00:25.37 | spectie | running 'System Disk' |
| 00:26.04 | spectie | says "Power User (Open Firmware)" |
| 00:26.18 | spectie | what now? |
| 00:26.21 | SimonRaven | yeh, use that |
| 00:26.41 | SimonRaven | that's where you can write in your variables |
| 00:27.45 | spectie | i can't see an option to patch |
| 00:30.35 | SimonRaven | it patches it automatically |
| 00:30.48 | SimonRaven | once you click save. ^^^^ |
| 00:31.23 | spectie | even those forth patches? |
| 00:33.53 | spectie | well, i clicked save and shut down |
| 00:34.01 | spectie | and rebooted |
| 00:34.01 | spectie | and the same problem |
| 00:34.09 | spectie | black screen |
| 00:34.17 | spectie | and numlock/caps don't come on |
| 00:36.38 | SimonRaven | might have your boot-device wrong |
| 00:37.08 | spectie | should it be set to the prom or to: /bandit/gc/mesh/sd@0:0 |
| 00:37.08 | spectie | ? |
| 00:43.34 | SimonRaven | the latter |
| 00:43.38 | spectie | ok |
| 00:43.54 | spectie | should boot file and boot command be set to anything special ? |
| 00:48.43 | SimonRaven | defaults are ok usually |
| 00:49.18 | spectie | hard or soft reboot? |
| 00:49.19 | SimonRaven | setting boot-file makes it so when you type boot quik will default to the one mentioned in that var |
| 00:49.26 | SimonRaven | up to you |
| 00:49.35 | spectie | (sorry to ask so many questions, but i want to get it right :) |
| 00:50.32 | spectie | nope, same result :( |
| 00:50.40 | spectie | no keyboard and no screen |
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| 00:56.31 | SimonRaven | well, this should be working... |
| 00:56.44 | spectie | aye :[ |
| 00:56.50 | spectie | perhaps my monitor? |
| 00:58.04 | SimonRaven | you sure the monitor is hooked up ok? turned on? ;) the variables correct? how about quik.conf; does it have the right settings? |
| 00:58.14 | spectie | well, the monitor is fine |
| 00:58.26 | spectie | as it works when i reset the prom |
| 00:58.37 | spectie | (not a silly contrast/brightness thing :) |
| 00:58.38 | spectie | quik.conf |
| 00:58.53 | spectie | what should that have in re: the monitor? |
| 01:08.32 | SimonRaven | ok. just that the cable is in properly, etc. |
| 01:17.11 | spectie | ok, tommorow i think |
| 01:17.17 | spectie | thanks very much for your help :) |
| 01:17.20 | spectie | see you around |
| 01:20.16 | SimonRaven | alright. see ya |
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| 03:50.58 | assassin | my cdrom just died >:( |
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| 06:01.48 | b33r | anyone got madwifi drivers working? |
| 06:03.17 | b33r | im trying this: www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi |
| 06:03.23 | b33r | but with no luck unfortunatly |
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| 06:20.24 | assassin | doh... just a loose cable |
| 06:20.31 | SimonRaven | :) |
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| 13:05.58 | xwl | Hi, anybody tried recently released emacs-snapshot from official |
| 13:05.59 | xwl | debian mirrors? I've met some problem during installation .. |
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| 14:18.26 | spectie | blah |
| 14:20.17 | spectie | cue: most infuriating thing about powermacs |
| 14:20.32 | spectie | i have about 20 sticks of ram 168pin from a load of dell machines i got |
| 14:20.40 | spectie | and i can't use it in my powermac |
| 14:20.56 | spectie | because the mac ram has the little nicks aligned 1-2mm different |
| 14:21.01 | percussor | @hex sux |
| 14:21.01 | ravenbird | sux is 73 75 78 |
| 14:21.05 | spectie | all of the pins line up |
| 14:21.14 | spectie | just the nicks are a mm out |
| 14:21.15 | spectie | :'( |
| 14:21.32 | percussor | well... you could fix it with a knife |
| 14:21.41 | percussor | though it'd be getto as hell |
| 14:21.48 | spectie | well, i was thinking sandpaper |
| 14:21.50 | spectie | or glasspaper |
| 14:22.00 | percussor | That'd work |
| 14:23.11 | spectie | right |
| 14:33.59 | percussor | You'll have to add something on the other end though |
| 14:36.15 | spectie | blah |
| 14:36.21 | spectie | doesn't fit anyway |
| 14:38.38 | percussor | ebay |
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| 15:22.41 | spectie | hey all, booting into linux-2.6.12.4, my screen just goes wacko, any idea what could be causing it? |
| 15:22.49 | spectie | (i'm having difficulty describing "wacko" btw |
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| 15:26.50 | gubbs | hi guys I have an ibook with a touchpad and its driving me nuts. I cant type without catching it .. I looked at powerprefs, gtkpbbuttons etc but cant find an option to disable it. I use an external USB mouse .. unfortunately turning off support in the kernel turns both off. anyone conquered this? |
| 15:28.04 | johill | pbbuttonsd has an options for that |
| 15:28.29 | johill | NoTapTyping = yes (I think) |
| 15:30.15 | gubbs | I got TPMode = lock |
| 15:30.24 | gubbs | not sure what that does but it doesnt help. |
| 15:30.47 | DelTree | never got my touchpad not to misbehave... |
| 15:31.09 | gubbs | DelTree, well unless I can turn it off this is pointless .. I cant type anything without catching it. :( |
| 15:31.28 | gubbs | I could always stick huge wads of tape on it. |
| 15:31.34 | DelTree | gubbs: powerbook 17" makes it easier for me not to catch it... ;) |
| 15:31.45 | gubbs | DelTree, I'm so happy for you. |
| 15:31.49 | johill | gubbs: NoTapTyping is the option you're looking for, I'd say. see man pbbuttonsd.conf(5) |
| 15:34.27 | gubbs | tpmode = notap |
| 15:34.29 | gubbs | that the one? |
| 15:34.33 | johill | no |
| 15:34.40 | gubbs | k |
| 15:34.48 | DelTree | my man pbbuttonsd.conf has no ref to NoTapTyping |
| 15:34.56 | johill | hmm. which version? |
| 15:35.22 | johill | I have 0.7.1-1 |
| 15:35.29 | DelTree | well... the box is not a debian... |
| 15:35.34 | johill | but notaptyping surely has been around for quite a while |
| 15:35.48 | DelTree | oh... it's a 0.5.2... completely outdated... |
| 15:36.09 | DelTree | I'll have to reinstall something on this box one day... |
| 15:36.17 | gubbs | johill, 0.6.6 |
| 15:36.18 | johill | been there since 2005-03-16 0.6.7-5 |
| 15:36.23 | johill | ahh. just too old |
| 15:36.26 | gubbs | hehe |
| 15:36.30 | gubbs | I knew I wasnt going blind .. |
| 15:36.31 | gubbs | :P |
| 15:36.36 | gubbs | thanks mate |
| 15:36.39 | DelTree | and I'll probably make it debian testing... to get it regularly updated... |
| 15:37.10 | DelTree | (it's too much of a mess switching versions with another distro...) |
| 15:38.10 | johill | depends on the distro I guess, but debian testing should be nice |
| 15:39.07 | DelTree | with debian, just having said "testing" drove me from sarge to etch without any problem... I've never see that with any other distro... |
| 15:40.09 | gubbs | hmm well I wasnt in a big rush with this ibook its not my main comp .. |
| 15:40.21 | gubbs | so I did gentoo from stage 3. |
| 15:40.26 | gubbs | I wanted to play with xorg. |
| 15:40.45 | gubbs | with ppc tho I dont guess it matters much. |
| 15:41.03 | gubbs | its so lame at src I'd probably be tempted to use debian next time. :) |
| 15:43.54 | gubbs | johill, hmm in the updated pbbuttonsd.conf it mentions that NoTapTyping is unstable and that mouseemu can be used instead? |
| 15:44.52 | gubbs | brb anyway |
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| 15:51.46 | gubbs | johill, works a treat mate. thanks. |
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| 16:20.01 | jaqkar | hi |
| 16:20.20 | jaqkar | can i ask for help here? |
| 16:20.57 | demon | you can ask... |
| 16:21.43 | jaqkar | im trying to install linux on a G3 Wallstreet |
| 16:21.58 | jaqkar | im off to a bad start |
| 16:22.02 | jaqkar | i got bootx |
| 16:22.06 | jaqkar | but not sure how to use it |
| 16:24.01 | jaqkar | ive got ubuntu on cd but it doesnt boot from it |
| 16:27.16 | pahartik | jaqkar: tell "BootX" to boot kernel image that you have on CD |
| 16:29.43 | jaqkar | where is the kernel image normally located |
| 16:30.10 | percussor | it's named vmlinux(something) |
| 16:30.25 | percussor | usually in /install/ |
| 16:30.29 | jaqkar | ok and how do i tell bootx this |
| 16:30.36 | jaqkar | i cant see a conf or anything |
| 16:31.33 | pahartik | jaqkar: copy file to ... "Linux kernels" within system preferences folder |
| 16:31.58 | jaqkar | loool |
| 16:32.04 | jaqkar | my mac just started talking to me |
| 16:32.07 | jaqkar | mwahaaa |
| 16:32.09 | jaqkar | omg |
| 16:38.36 | jaqkar | ok |
| 16:38.51 | jaqkar | i found the kernel |
| 16:39.04 | jaqkar | gonna copy it now |
| 16:40.17 | pahartik | jaqkar: might need "root.img" as well, for "ramdisk image" |
| 16:40.50 | pahartik | jaqkar: that can be specified in "BootX" configuration dialog |
| 16:41.13 | jaqkar | k |
| 16:50.33 | jaqkar | im having trouble getting the kernel on cd |
| 16:50.36 | jaqkar | thought i had it |
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| 17:09.10 | jaqkar | finally |
| 17:09.15 | jaqkar | ppfft |
| 17:33.38 | percussor | If I have to listen to another buzzword whore, I swear to christ I might just rampage sun or some other party responsible |
| 17:34.12 | DelTree | :) |
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| 18:01.35 | jaqkar | guys where can i get the root.img |
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| 18:02.50 | Anthro | If I attach a SCSI drive from an oldworld Mac to a SCSI card in a newworld Mac, can I just install Debian with a Sarge CD and boot it on the oldworld Mac? |
| 18:04.23 | demon | you'll probably have to manually install quik, and you'll still need to do the requisite OF patching on the OldWorld box |
| 18:04.56 | jaqkar | Anthro>can u help with some install issues u have on an old world mac? |
| 18:05.34 | Anthro | jaqkar: I don't do aimspeke, sorry. |
| 18:08.18 | jaqkar | aimspeke? |
| 18:12.51 | SimonRaven | talking like this 2 u is aimspeke |
| 18:13.12 | SimonRaven | AKA AOLspeak |
| 18:13.16 | jaqkar | like this meaning on irc? |
| 18:13.33 | SimonRaven | @u |
| 18:13.34 | ravenbird | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1 or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 18:13.38 | pahartik | jaqkar: define "u" |
| 18:13.44 | SimonRaven | @ne1 |
| 18:13.44 | ravenbird | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you |
| 18:13.51 | SimonRaven | @wud |
| 18:13.52 | ravenbird | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
| 18:14.52 | jaqkar | oh |
| 18:15.00 | jaqkar | i see |
| 18:15.40 | jaqkar | well should i apologise or something |
| 18:15.47 | jaqkar | is it considered offensive |
| 18:16.08 | SimonRaven | it's not like this medium is taxing on bandwidth, unlike some other protocols ;) |
| 18:16.33 | SimonRaven | it's irritating to see someone not take the time to write out things |
| 18:16.50 | SimonRaven | indeed |
| 18:17.46 | SimonRaven | often others don't speak english as a first language, and having to translate the aolspeak on top of that.. well i think we made the point :) |
| 18:18.25 | jaqkar | yes i get it |
| 18:19.12 | jaqkar | so should we start again |
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| 18:20.12 | SimonRaven | OW issues, often found on the various sites on the subject, of which there aren't many. the netbsd ports pages, and a few others, like mine |
| 18:20.16 | jaqkar | is it possible to help me with an issue that i have with bootx on an oldworld mac |
| 18:20.26 | SimonRaven | just ask |
| 18:20.59 | jaqkar | i got so far as to get a kernel onto the mac |
| 18:21.18 | jaqkar | but i dont really know what to do from there |
| 18:22.05 | SimonRaven | the README is helpful |
| 18:22.10 | jaqkar | for example the root device option and ramdisk |
| 18:22.30 | SimonRaven | it's simple really. also the installation guide covers it |
| 18:22.34 | SimonRaven | @install guide |
| 18:22.35 | ravenbird | for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg ravenbird iyhtays. |
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| 18:27.16 | jaqkar | i dont see any of the bootx config in those manuals |
| 18:28.38 | SimonRaven | the sit file comes with a README |
| 18:33.06 | jaqkar | i just checked the readme and it is not clear to me |
| 18:33.24 | jaqkar | it does not say what file to use for the ramdisk |
| 18:33.31 | SimonRaven | initrd |
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| 18:33.51 | SimonRaven | it doesn't. install guide i think does mention it |
| 18:34.27 | jaqkar | bootx install guide or debian? |
| 18:34.49 | SimonRaven | debian |
| 18:34.49 | jaqkar | all i have with bootx is the readme |
| 18:37.18 | jaqkar | i cannot find this in the debian install |
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| 21:13.27 | nickv111 | Hello |
| 21:13.55 | nickv111 | For some reason, my brightness on my iBook went all the way down |
| 21:14.11 | nickv111 | I can't figure out how to turn it back up |
| 21:14.33 | johill | try switching to a console (ctrl-alt-f1) and back to X (same with -f7 usually) |
| 21:14.57 | nickv111 | Well, the problem is that I can't see anything |
| 21:14.59 | nickv111 | When I boot |
| 21:15.05 | johill | oh |
| 21:15.14 | nickv111 | Even Open Firmware is dim |
| 21:15.28 | nickv111 | Is there an Open Firmware command to change brightness? |
| 21:15.35 | nickv111 | That would help a lot |
| 21:15.37 | johill | dim or black? do you actually ever see something at all? |
| 21:15.46 | nickv111 | Well, it's not completely black |
| 21:15.59 | nickv111 | It's very dim, but I can see a small amount of text |
| 21:16.56 | johill | ok. I had thought the backlight might be broken. |
| 21:17.00 | nickv111 | I can't read it, though |
| 21:17.16 | nickv111 | Well, I just installed sleepd, which I think keeps turning the brightness down so far i can't see it |
| 21:17.48 | nickv111 | I've done some googling, and haven't found any information |
| 21:18.19 | johill | try going to a console, logging in as root and entering fblevel 15 |
| 21:18.26 | johill | or fblevel 5 or something |
| 21:18.31 | nickv111 | OK |
| 21:18.45 | johill | mine has 15 has the brightest setting, so maybe 5 is better for your eyes right now ;) |
| 21:20.51 | pahartik | nickv111: if background light is completely turned off (level 0), ambient light can still make screen readable |
| 21:21.20 | nickv111 | pahartik: What do you mean, ambient light? |
| 21:22.37 | pahartik | nickv111: light that gets in from external sources |
| 21:25.14 | pahartik | nickv111: if built-in light source is broken, it is broken |
| 21:26.42 | nickv111 | I don't think it's broken |
| 21:26.53 | nickv111 | Anyways, I don't have network connectivity |
| 21:26.58 | nickv111 | So I can't log in remotely |
| 21:27.16 | nickv111 | And I don't think fblevel is installed |
| 21:33.24 | nickv111 | OK, guys, I installed pmud-utils |
| 21:33.33 | nickv111 | I typed fblevel 20, and it spit out no error message |
| 21:33.40 | nickv111 | However, I don't think it's doing anything |
| 21:33.52 | nickv111 | Typing "fblevel 15" didn't do anything either |
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| 21:37.47 | nickv111 | :'( |
| 21:37.49 | nickv111 | Oh, crap |
| 21:37.53 | nickv111 | This isn't doing anything |
| 21:38.01 | nickv111 | Is there an openfirmware command or SOMETHING? |
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| 21:40.34 | nickv111 | I understand |
| 21:41.08 | pahartik | nickv111: i do not think brightness state is stored in OpenFirmware |
| 21:41.14 | nickv111 | pahartik: Oh |
| 21:41.31 | nickv111 | pahartik: Well, it's dark from startup |
| 21:41.48 | nickv111 | pahartik: Even yaboot is dark |
| 21:41.54 | nickv111 | pahartik: Open Firmware is dark |
| 21:42.02 | nickv111 | pahartik: So, my iBook is dead? |
| 21:42.24 | nickv111 | Damn! I've had it for so long :( |
| 21:42.49 | pahartik | nickv111: when kernel starts, i always get full brightness... then later "pbbuttonsd" starts and tunes it... |
| 21:42.59 | Q-FUNK | dark matter |
| 21:43.09 | nickv111 | pahartik: So, what do you think I should do? |
| 21:44.05 | johill | take it to an apple store or other dealer |
| 21:44.29 | nickv111 | johill: I see |
| 21:44.46 | nickv111 | johill: We have an Apple repair shop nearby, but my warranty has expired, so it's going to cost a lot of money |
| 21:45.12 | johill | nickv111: surely they won't make you pay for checking it out to see if it really is broken? |
| 21:45.19 | johill | you could also try booting your osx install cd |
| 21:45.20 | nickv111 | johill: I bet they will |
| 21:45.28 | nickv111 | johill: Yes, I could try that |
| 21:45.37 | nickv111 | johill: Let me try to get one |
| 21:45.48 | pahartik | nickv111: and try to "Zap PRAM" |
| 21:45.54 | nickv111 | pahartik: Hmm |
| 21:46.03 | nickv111 | pahartik: I've done that before, but I forgot how |
| 21:46.23 | nickv111 | pahartik: I'll look on apple's site |
| 21:46.58 | nickv111 | Ah, yes |
| 21:47.00 | nickv111 | Now I remember |
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| 21:49.02 | nickv111 | pahartik: Nothing |
| 21:49.08 | nickv111 | pahartik: Well, time for the macosx cd |
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| 21:49.39 | johill | on my powerbook there's nothing related to brightness in the nvram |
| 21:52.30 | pahartik | nickv111: sounds much like repair time |
| 21:53.29 | nickv111 | pahartik: OK, the MacOSX cd isn't changing the backlight either |
| 21:53.35 | nickv111 | pahartik: Well, this sucks |
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| 21:54.12 | pahartik | nickv111: what kind of iBook? |
| 21:59.37 | nickv111 | pahartik: Late 2001 |
| 22:00.01 | nickv111 | Dual USB |
| 22:02.37 | pahartik | nickv111: repairing might be too expensive considering it is four years old, get new PowerPC iBook while they are still available... |
| 22:03.07 | nickv111 | pahartik: To tell you the truth, I'm not sure I want another Apple |
| 22:03.42 | nickv111 | pahartik: Really, I'd rather buy an x86 laptop, because they have better Linux support, and better compatibility with *gasp* proprietary software |
| 22:03.50 | SimonRaven | if only there were more makers of ppc laptops... |
| 22:03.50 | nickv111 | I dislike proprietary software, but I am forced to use Java |
| 22:04.34 | nickv111 | Anyways, the problem with Apple is that it always seems like you pay more for less |
| 22:04.49 | nickv111 | An x86 laptop can have better hardware that is more compatible with Linux for less money |
| 22:05.08 | Q-FUNK | SimonRaven: i asked svenl if pegasos would consider making laptops instead of desktops. he said they once thought about it and then found that it would cost them too much. |
| 22:05.13 | nickv111 | For example, there are no 3D accel drivers for NVidia / ATi on PPC Linux |
| 22:05.20 | SimonRaven | :( |
| 22:05.33 | nickv111 | Well, even Apple is moving from PPC to x86 |
| 22:05.41 | Q-FUNK | we need ibm to make ppc laptops again |
| 22:05.45 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 22:06.00 | nickv111 | Anyways, I'll just ask what the damage is |
| 22:06.11 | pahartik | nickv111: Java would be nice but i refuse to turn to wintel for anything like that |
| 22:06.16 | Q-FUNK | nickv111: apple is only doing it to stop the Mhz comparision. |
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| 22:06.40 | nickv111 | If it's something where they need to replace the motherboard or something, I think I'll just buy an x86 notebook |
| 22:07.08 | nickv111 | Plus, another problem with Apples is that everything is integrated but wireless, the disks, and the keyboard |
| 22:07.09 | Q-FUNK | nickv111: amd64 |
| 22:07.30 | nickv111 | Q-FUNK: I'd rather get an Intel laptop. I have an AMD64 desktop computer |
| 22:07.39 | nickv111 | Q-FUNK: The computer I am on now is AMD64 |
| 22:07.56 | nickv111 | Anyways, with, say, an Alienware notebook, pretty much everything is replaceable |
| 22:08.03 | Q-FUNK | yes, but amd64 laptop :) |
| 22:08.18 | nickv111 | Q-FUNK: Well, Intel has Centrino and such |
| 22:08.34 | SimonRaven | inhel |
| 22:08.40 | nickv111 | Anyways, I should back up my laptop before I get it repared or thrown away |
| 22:08.49 | nickv111 | rapaired* |
| 22:09.12 | nickv111 | When I told my brother my laptop's backlight was broken, he instinctively said, "What did you _do_?" |
| 22:09.18 | pahartik | nickv111: it is easy with "FireWire target disk mode" |
| 22:09.44 | nickv111 | pahartik: I'll just do rdiff-backup |
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| 22:18.15 | nickv111 | On the bright side, I suppose my battery will last longer :) |
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