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| 06:25.06 | SimonRaven | Danamania: chances are that it won't unless it has the needed fcode in its rom chip, and the driver if it isn't supported by the apple drivers |
| 06:26.30 | Danamania | dang |
| 06:27.55 | SimonRaven | the farallon nics usually support macs |
| 06:28.15 | SimonRaven | also um, shoot, can't recall right now |
| 06:28.28 | SimonRaven | kingston |
| 06:29.09 | Danamania | (MacOS would be a bonus, but wouldn't be necessary) |
| 06:29.17 | SimonRaven | oh, then chances are it'll work |
| 06:29.27 | SimonRaven | your options open up |
| 06:30.00 | SimonRaven | i stick to tulip, 3com, and another they work nicely |
| 06:30.10 | SimonRaven | ne2k i think? |
| 06:30.50 | Danamania | ahh - a tulip was one I think I had real troubles working in MacOS ages back, but debian was just fine with it - which is reassuring |
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| 09:04.48 | jaqkar_ | hi guys |
| 09:05.04 | jaqkar_ | any of you oldworld users? |
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| 09:08.00 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 09:12.02 | jaqkar_ | im having a really tough time with my G3 Powerbook |
| 09:12.16 | jaqkar_ | and its really a great piece of kit |
| 09:12.33 | jaqkar_ | but not so forgiving with the linux bit |
| 09:13.07 | jaqkar_ | so far i have managed the best with debian |
| 09:13.18 | jaqkar_ | all other distros did not even come so far |
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| 09:13.50 | Bor_Ed | those shouldn't have any bigger probs |
| 09:15.02 | jaqkar_ | can i ask some questions then about the install |
| 09:15.14 | jaqkar_ | just to make sure of some things |
| 09:15.41 | Bor_Ed | sure |
| 09:16.04 | jaqkar_ | i have mad a 250mb part for mac os 8.6 |
| 09:16.12 | jaqkar_ | sorry partition |
| 09:16.32 | jaqkar_ | then i made a swap of 200mb |
| 09:16.44 | jaqkar_ | and the rest of drive 3.5gb is / and ext2 |
| 09:17.33 | jaqkar_ | thing is i read somewhere that ppp does not support larger than 2gb |
| 09:17.43 | jaqkar_ | or is this with old kernels only? |
| 09:17.51 | Bor_Ed | ppp ? |
| 09:18.07 | jaqkar_ | sorry ppc |
| 09:18.20 | jaqkar_ | whats wrong with my fingers today :P |
| 09:18.31 | jaqkar_ | was a late night with my little mac buddy |
| 09:18.33 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I have bigger than 2G partitions here and have used even woody on this box... |
| 09:18.55 | jaqkar_ | i m trying the latest release |
| 09:19.04 | jaqkar_ | is that woody? |
| 09:19.06 | Bor_Ed | sarge should just work ok |
| 09:19.15 | Bor_Ed | sarge is latest stable, woody was before it |
| 09:19.28 | jaqkar_ | ok woody 2.4 kernel? |
| 09:19.34 | jaqkar_ | sarge 2.6? |
| 09:19.43 | Bor_Ed | pretty much like that |
| 09:19.57 | jaqkar_ | ok |
| 09:20.08 | jaqkar_ | well to continue |
| 09:20.13 | jaqkar_ | i use bootx |
| 09:20.22 | Bor_Ed | same here with beige g3 |
| 09:20.23 | jaqkar_ | i copy the kernel and init |
| 09:20.28 | jaqkar_ | setup bootx |
| 09:20.34 | jaqkar_ | it installs |
| 09:20.54 | jaqkar_ | then here what im not sure of it during install to install quik or not? |
| 09:21.05 | Bor_Ed | you don't need to install quik |
| 09:22.34 | jaqkar_ | ok but if i did is it a problem |
| 09:22.58 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 09:23.12 | jaqkar_ | well i will format the drive anyway to retry the install tonight |
| 09:23.22 | jaqkar_ | oki then... |
| 09:23.27 | jaqkar_ | it reboots |
| 09:23.34 | jaqkar_ | i get the bootx |
| 09:23.42 | jaqkar_ | i untick the ramdrive i set |
| 09:24.00 | jaqkar_ | and reboot, it reboots and then i get a kernel panic |
| 09:24.10 | jaqkar_ | complaining about the vfs |
| 09:24.16 | Bor_Ed | umm, you need to copy the running kernel from /boot to the bootx kernels dir to be able to boot normally |
| 09:25.09 | jaqkar_ | ok im not completely with you |
| 09:25.09 | jaqkar_ | sorry |
| 09:25.14 | jaqkar_ | running kernel |
| 09:25.26 | jaqkar_ | as in the kernel i specify for bootx |
| 09:25.30 | jaqkar_ | or the one installed |
| 09:26.08 | Bor_Ed | that's one that gets to /boot during install... that's the one you need to copy to bootx kernels dir after the install |
| 09:26.27 | jaqkar_ | is /boot a partition or directory? |
| 09:26.49 | Bor_Ed | it's a directory in / filesystem |
| 09:27.30 | jaqkar_ | i see |
| 09:27.51 | Bor_Ed | that's a minor annoyance when using bootx but you get used to it |
| 09:28.03 | jaqkar_ | can you maybe tell me how to copy it to the kernels directory |
| 09:28.13 | jaqkar_ | how to get it from linux to mac? |
| 09:28.41 | Bor_Ed | you need to mount the mac filesystem... mount -t hfs /dev/hdXY /mnt , copy the file over and umount |
| 09:28.59 | Bor_Ed | if you have hfs+ fs, the -t is hpfsplus |
| 09:30.06 | jaqkar_ | im pasting this into a txt so i can use |
| 09:30.11 | jaqkar_ | :) |
| 09:30.15 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 09:30.22 | jaqkar_ | but...and im sorry |
| 09:30.27 | jaqkar_ | lol |
| 09:30.48 | jaqkar_ | how do i even get to linux to be able to mount the mac fs |
| 09:31.08 | Bor_Ed | the initrd should have the driver in modules dir |
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| 09:31.40 | jaqkar_ | so i boot with the initrd |
| 09:31.51 | jaqkar_ | it will want to install but i open a console |
| 09:32.19 | jaqkar_ | and then just run the mount -t hfs /dev/hdXY |
| 09:32.24 | jaqkar_ | and copy it |
| 09:32.31 | Bor_Ed | you can use the console after the initial install |
| 09:33.10 | jaqkar_ | before the reboot of the install? |
| 09:33.21 | jaqkar_ | or after boot where i get the kernel panic |
| 09:33.36 | Bor_Ed | before the reboot |
| 09:34.48 | jaqkar_ | great |
| 09:35.29 | jaqkar_ | umm then how do i know which /dev/hd* the mac fs is? |
| 09:35.47 | Bor_Ed | mac-fdisk -l /dev/hda will show |
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| 09:36.24 | jaqkar_ | is mac-fdisk installed during the setup of debian? |
| 09:36.29 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 09:36.37 | Bor_Ed | it's similar to x86 linux fdisk |
| 09:37.57 | jaqkar_ | so in the console after initial install i just type that |
| 09:38.07 | jaqkar_ | mean run mac-fdisk |
| 09:38.08 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 09:38.25 | jaqkar_ | damn Bor_Ed i am sorry for so many questions |
| 09:39.05 | jaqkar_ | from all the reading i have done this is probably the most useful info yet |
| 09:39.28 | jaqkar_ | great that there are people like you to help |
| 09:39.42 | Bor_Ed | no need to be sorry if you wanna have help around here |
| 09:39.50 | johill | snd_powermac driver doesn't survive suspending, after resume I have no sound any more. should the powermac.c file have suspend stuff as well? |
| 09:43.06 | jaqkar_ | how will i get to the console after initial install |
| 09:43.36 | jaqkar_ | ctrl + funny key + f2 |
| 09:44.01 | jaqkar_ | option key or something its called |
| 09:46.39 | jaqkar_ | ctrl-opt-F2 ? |
| 09:48.58 | Bor_Ed | you can select console prompt from the installer |
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| 09:50.32 | jaqkar_ | from install menu? |
| 09:50.36 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 09:50.50 | jaqkar_ | how do i get to it from the install |
| 09:51.14 | Bor_Ed | it's one of the install phases... don't recall exactly what it was called but you'll notice it |
| 09:51.29 | jaqkar_ | if im using the the auto installer? |
| 09:54.20 | Bor_Ed | I think you can still drop to console before the reboot |
| 09:56.37 | jaqkar_ | from what i have seen there are not menu options to do so, think i will have to use ctrl-opt-F2 then |
| 09:57.08 | jaqkar_ | but from console what do i do to get into the system |
| 09:57.17 | jaqkar_ | do i need to go to a special directory |
| 09:57.24 | jaqkar_ | to execute mac-fdisk |
| 09:57.37 | Bor_Ed | just hit ctrl+f1 to get back to the installer |
| 10:02.14 | Bor_Ed | hmm, time to head to work... have fun with the install |
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| 10:04.32 | jaqkar_ | thx |
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| 19:02.11 | DahoodG4 | hi all |
| 19:02.24 | DahoodG4 | I'm looking for a linux distribution that can run Quake3 on my dualie |
| 19:02.29 | DahoodG4 | any idea ? |
| 19:04.40 | Bor_Ed | if there is quake3 linux/ppc binary, any distribution can run it |
| 19:07.26 | DahoodG4 | thx |
| 19:07.37 | DahoodG4 | someone just told me that there is no one :/ |
| 19:07.45 | Bor_Ed | then there probably isn't |
| 19:08.01 | Bor_Ed | check yourself on ftp://ftp.idgames.com |
| 19:08.48 | DahoodG4 | yeah |
| 19:08.55 | DahoodG4 | they have x86 binaries |
| 19:09.01 | DahoodG4 | thats all |
| 19:10.19 | Bor_Ed | then that's about it... |
| 19:10.24 | DahoodG4 | thanks anyway, cya |
| 19:10.30 | DahoodG4 | yeah |
| 19:10.33 | Bor_Ed | you're welcome |
| 19:10.33 | DahoodG4 | :) |
| 19:10.37 | DahoodG4 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:11.16 | p8m-work | The source for q3 isn't released yet. :( |
| 19:12.13 | Bor_Ed | nope |
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| 20:36.08 | ilaglisser | is there something to open stuffit .sit files ? |
| 20:42.51 | pahartik | ilaglisser: "StuffIt Expander" by "Allume Systems" |
| 20:57.21 | ilaglisser | pahartik: on linux ? |
| 20:59.35 | pahartik | ilaglisser: Linux version only for wintel |
| 20:59.59 | ilaglisser | that will do |
| 21:10.01 | pahartik | ilaglisser: http://www.allume.com/downloads/files/stuffit520.611linux-i386.tar.gz |
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