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| 11:10.09 | jaqkar | hi guys |
| 11:10.24 | jaqkar | Bor_Ed you around? |
| 11:10.59 | jaqkar | can someone help me with an oldworld install? |
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| 12:05.58 | jaqkar | how do i copy the kernel from the install to my mac |
| 12:07.15 | pahartik | jaqkar: define "install" and "mac" |
| 12:09.33 | jaqkar | i have a powerbook g3 and i am installing debian ppc |
| 12:10.26 | jaqkar | i found out that before the install is done i have to copy the kernel from /boot to my mac partition to use with bootx |
| 12:10.56 | jaqkar | i tried mounting it from a terminal |
| 12:11.02 | jaqkar | but it will not let me |
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| 12:13.13 | pahartik | jaqkar: target filesystem is mounted by default during install at "/target/" |
| 12:13.49 | pahartik | jaqkar: "mount" will list all mounted filesystems |
| 12:15.21 | carlinha | hi all |
| 12:15.45 | pahartik | jaqkar: and mounting HFS+ has to be done manually, as doing things with BootX is not part of default install |
| 12:17.20 | jaqkar | i tries mounting the HFS manually |
| 12:17.35 | carlinha | I have a IBM RS/6000 7043 43P and I want install the Debian by floppy. I saw in the http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch05s01.html which only systems OldWord can does it. |
| 12:17.43 | carlinha | Is it true? |
| 12:17.44 | jaqkar | but i was not sure even where it is on /dev/hda |
| 12:18.58 | jaqkar | i did mac-fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 12:19.13 | jaqkar | to try and see where the hfs is |
| 12:19.23 | jaqkar | but that did not work |
| 12:21.12 | pahartik | jaqkar: did you tell installer to get rid of filesystem containing MacOS while defining partitions and creating filesystems? |
| 12:21.26 | carlinha | can anybody help me? |
| 12:21.58 | carlinha | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:22.54 | jaqkar | no i kept the mac fs |
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| 12:25.00 | pahartik | jaqkar: does "mac-fdisk" do something unexpected? |
| 12:26.35 | jaqkar | i rebooted back into MacOS |
| 12:26.44 | jaqkar | so cannot tell you the exact error |
| 12:27.12 | jaqkar | can i reboot |
| 12:27.32 | jaqkar | and run installer to tell you |
| 12:29.54 | pahartik | jaqkar: traditional MacOS does not have any drivers or tools to access Ext2 or Ext3 filesystems |
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| 12:37.17 | pahartik | jaqkar: ...or many of the other possible filesystems you might have chosen to use to install on |
| 12:39.19 | carlinha | I have a IBM RS/6000 7043 43P and I want install the Debian by floppy. I saw in the http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch05s01.html which only systems OldWord can does it. |
| 12:39.23 | carlinha | Is it true? |
| 12:48.44 | pahartik | carlinha: thank you for repeating... and that document mostly just states that OldWorld Macintoshes cannot boot from CD media without proprietary boot code |
| 12:53.02 | pahartik | carlinha: i do not know if "IBM RS/6000 7043 43P" is "POWER3" system, but have you tried "/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/power3/" from Debian FTP archive mirror? |
| 12:54.17 | carlinha | Hi pahartik ! Thanks for reply :) |
| 12:54.46 | jaqkar | pahartik: i am going to do a reinstall now |
| 12:55.04 | carlinha | I saw that system is PreP and uses "/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc" |
| 12:57.01 | pahartik | carlinha: well, did "floppy/boot.img" or "floppy-2.4/boot.img" not work? |
| 12:57.09 | carlinha | no :( |
| 12:57.57 | carlinha | I tried using other disketes, but don't work... |
| 12:58.25 | pahartik | carlinha: how about "netboot"? |
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| 12:59.46 | carlinha | The system display the message "BOOTS = x" , x=1... 10, and then, It's reboot |
| 13:00.11 | carlinha | I will try the netboot... but I want understand why don't work... |
| 13:01.50 | pahartik | carlinha: there is also "/debian/dists/oldstable/main/disks-powerpc/current/prep/" you could try... |
| 13:02.03 | jaqkar | pahartik: when i partition im creating my / as ext and it wants to know if it should be marked bootable |
| 13:02.15 | jaqkar | sorry / as ext2 |
| 13:02.25 | jaqkar | in addition to the swap and hfs |
| 13:03.03 | carlinha | humm I will try! |
| 13:03.35 | carlinha | pahartiki: Thanks for your help :))) |
| 13:03.40 | pahartik | jaqkar: traditional MacOS can live on "hfs" or "hfsplus" filesystem |
| 13:04.05 | jaqkar | maybe you misunderstand me |
| 13:04.16 | jaqkar | this is for the debian installation |
| 13:04.28 | jaqkar | i already have macos installed |
| 13:04.46 | jaqkar | so i have my macos partition, swap and / |
| 13:06.39 | pahartik | jaqkar: when mounting "HFS" or "HFS+" on Linux, one should specify "hfs" or "hfsplus" as filesystem type |
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| 13:09.10 | jaqkar | i am re-installing debian now |
| 13:09.17 | jaqkar | to see what the errors are |
| 13:10.58 | pahartik | jaqkar: if system is already installed once, one should be able to mount it in installer without performing install again |
| 13:13.42 | pahartik | jaqkar: ...not that installing few times would hurt much... |
| 13:13.54 | jaqkar | :) |
| 13:14.17 | jaqkar | unfortnatly i rebooted it after install back into MacOS |
| 13:14.35 | jaqkar | but now its 80% done again |
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| 13:18.25 | jaqkar | it is done now |
| 13:18.26 | pahartik | jaqkar: installer shell can be used for fixing possible problems on existing GNU/Linux system |
| 13:28.02 | jaqkar | when i run mac-fdisk to see where the hfs partition is i get error saying:can't open file '/dev/hda/'( no such file or directory) |
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| 18:56.21 | Bor_Ed | hmm, does pb 5300cs have any known issues? I'd get one for free but it doesn't power up |
| 18:57.12 | demon | other than the fact that it's a nubus machine? |
| 18:57.25 | Bor_Ed | well, I'd run 9.1 on it anyway... |
| 18:57.46 | demon | I don't know that you could run 9.1 on a nubus machine |
| 18:58.00 | Bor_Ed | according to apple-history one can |
| 18:58.03 | demon | even if you could, it'd be hella slow |
| 18:58.22 | Bor_Ed | well, 9.1 ran ok on 8200/120 :) |
| 18:58.34 | Bor_Ed | sold it with mockos installed |
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| 20:56.51 | johill | anyone here who has an idea what's up with libpng12? |
| 20:57.48 | johill | especially why there's a -1.0.1 version for ppc which has a different bug than the -1 version? |
| 20:59.13 | johill | I just filed a bug report, but that -1.0.1 was a nmu |
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| 21:16.09 | estragon | did some one use powerpc-utils? |
| 21:16.43 | johill | ? |
| 21:16.54 | johill | I use fblevel quite often |
| 21:18.12 | estragon | it' to auto restart the mac ... tanks |
| 21:18.39 | johill | powerpc-utils has a bunch of tools |
| 21:19.57 | estragon | which is onei use (or tray to use!) is set autoreboot |
| 21:20.08 | johill | autoboot on |
| 21:22.01 | estragon | i don't know exactly sould i put set autoboot true or ser autoboot on ?? and how to may to be se otomaticliy on reboot ?? may by with cront tab ?? |
| 21:23.04 | johill | autoboot on. and then you can put that into some startup script too, if you need/want |
| 21:24.18 | estragon | tanks for your help ... i will tray kwekly ... |
| 21:25.07 | estragon | i have to writ a scrit an refet to these sript in the @reboot from the crontab (it' to b surethat may fax server stay up after a ower faillure!) |
| 21:26.26 | johill | write a script, put it into /etc/init.d and symlink it to /etc/rcS.d/S99autoreboot or something |
| 21:29.25 | estragon | tanks very very much for your help ... i just tray the function directly with no script and that works!! |
| 21:29.42 | johill | yeah, but you need to set again after every boot |
| 21:29.49 | johill | so you really need a script, otherwise it only does it once |
| 21:30.08 | estragon | just last question forthe script file ... is a normal file with just a special fustl line right ? |
| 21:30.54 | johill | #!/bin/sh |
| 21:31.10 | johill | /sbin/autoboot on |
| 21:31.15 | johill | that's all you need ;) |
| 21:32.11 | estragon | thanks very very much ... that will help me very much ... and with your help i can tray to finis to install my old 7600 as fax server |
| 21:36.56 | estragon | i have to go ... |
| 21:37.06 | estragon | thanks for all your help |
| 21:37.08 | estragon | gerard |
| 21:37.24 | johill | no problem. bye |
| 22:01.08 | Q-FUNK | .oO(am I the only (non)Finn who starts humming the Cantina theme every time he goes to an ATM?) |
| 22:01.48 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 22:02.33 | Bor_Ed | http://www.huuto.net/fi/showitem.php3?itemid=20088792 want to do joint bid ? I only want the 9600 and duo 250 :D |
| 22:04.00 | Q-FUNK | naa |
| 22:05.16 | Bor_Ed | ookay, I've got another victim already tricked most probably for the deal anyway :) |
| 22:05.37 | Q-FUNK | pahartik: that might be more to your tastes? |
| 22:06.40 | Bor_Ed | I have a friend in jkl who already promised to ship the goods here if I bid... he'll prolly take some of the stuff too |
| 22:07.16 | Q-FUNK | well pahartik is already in Tre |
| 22:07.37 | Bor_Ed | I thought he's in hellsinks too :o |
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