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| 01:07.39 | tarheelcoxn | the parts/joins around here are kinda nuts |
| 01:08.39 | tarheelcoxn | (screen + irssi) on a stable server == goodness |
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| 01:15.39 | Gnuman | OK, I seem to be having a problem initialising WEP on my AirPort card. |
| 01:17.00 | Gnuman | According to the man page, you add wireless_enc =<wep key in hex> to your /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 01:17.19 | Gnuman | as well as setting the ssid you want (that works, btw) |
| 01:17.47 | Gnuman | but when I try to set the encoding, I get "Operation not supported" |
| 01:18.36 | Gnuman | I have the hermes and airport code built in to the kernel. |
| 01:18.48 | Gnuman | Using kernel 2.6.12 |
| 01:19.33 | Gnuman | I also have wireless tools installed. I can link to open APs but I cannot seem to link to one that is WEPd |
| 01:19.52 | Gnuman | what am I doing wrong? |
| 01:24.19 | tarheelcoxn | Gnuman: does "wireless-key <key in hex>" work? |
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| 01:32.56 | Gnuman | that was not in the man page. . . |
| 01:33.02 | Gnuman | I'll try that now. . . |
| 01:33.06 | tarheelcoxn | :) |
| 01:35.01 | SimonRaven | yup, the floppy images on the site are FUBAR. just spits back out the boot.img one, and i've done it repeatedly, with different floppies, running badblocks on them, fdformat... i've never seen such crap |
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| 01:40.02 | Gnuman | Sorry, that was what I used. I get Operation not supported Set Encode |
| 01:40.28 | karim | I am still trying to flash that agp card, and something weird is happening. At openfirmware boot, the screen is corrupted. However I manage to boot in OS X, and the screen is still corrupted. So I installed OSXVNC, to be able to log in and correct everything. And guess what ? The screen is also garbeled !! |
| 01:43.19 | demon | I think the images that OSXvnc pushes out are pulled directly out of the framebuffer |
| 01:43.20 | Gnuman | Ummm, OSXVNC is giving you a corrupted screen? |
| 01:43.34 | demon | so that would make some sense |
| 01:44.19 | karim | yep |
| 01:44.28 | karim | demon, ok |
| 01:44.30 | Gnuman | can it be corrected from the command line? |
| 01:44.38 | karim | don't know personnaly |
| 01:44.43 | Gnuman | and can you ssh into the box? |
| 01:44.46 | karim | yes |
| 01:44.56 | karim | I am into it but I know very little of OS X |
| 01:45.11 | karim | I guess there is ways to restart the display or something |
| 01:45.20 | karim | in fact a monochrom view could maybe help |
| 01:45.42 | karim | is there a way to forward OS X display over SSH ? |
| 01:45.47 | Gnuman | I do not know about the operation you are trying to do, as I work mostly with laptops, so the firmware does not need to be flashed. . . |
| 01:46.09 | karim | in fact here we can abstract the goal |
| 01:46.17 | karim | and focus on getting an accurate display |
| 01:46.25 | karim | I mean a logical display |
| 01:46.37 | karim | whatever .:) |
| 01:46.53 | Gnuman | you are using "apple Remote Desktop" yes? |
| 01:46.54 | karim | OS X is working the computer is fine, I just need to get control |
| 01:46.59 | karim | Gnuman, no |
| 01:47.13 | Gnuman | you may want to try that. . . |
| 01:47.13 | karim | Gnuman, but maybe this could be an option |
| 01:47.22 | karim | I have no other OS X box |
| 01:47.31 | karim | I have another mac but without OS X |
| 01:47.48 | karim | I could install OS X on it ... |
| 01:48.02 | karim | I need to put the dvd rom in it |
| 01:48.08 | karim | dvd reader |
| 01:48.45 | Gnuman | may be worth it. . . |
| 01:48.58 | karim | but I don't have remote desktop ... |
| 01:49.04 | karim | a client ... |
| 01:49.18 | Gnuman | it is under sharing in System Preferences |
| 01:49.51 | karim | there is always a client ? |
| 01:51.30 | Gnuman | I *believe* that if you have it turned on on both boxes, you can log into the other box remotely similar to OSXVNC |
| 01:53.57 | Gnuman | http://images.apple.com/remotedesktop/pdf/20041118_Apple_Remote_Desktop_2_Technology_Overview.pdf |
| 01:54.29 | Gnuman | I just clicked on the link that system preferences gave me. . . |
| 01:56.17 | karim | it's not free :/ |
| 01:56.26 | Gnuman | Hmmm, seems to be a distributed helpdesk, admin utility. . . |
| 01:56.46 | Gnuman | it may have a free trial period. . . |
| 01:57.44 | Gnuman | I saw it when I was turning FTP on so I could grab some stuff from my Linux desktop. . . |
| 01:58.03 | Gnuman | that is about as much as I know about it. . . |
| 01:58.28 | karim | there must be a way ... |
| 01:59.09 | Gnuman | YES, THERE MUST BE. . . |
| 01:59.21 | Gnuman | damn cAPS lOCK |
| 01:59.44 | Gnuman | I need to upgrade this laptop. . . now. . . |
| 02:00.09 | Gnuman | I need one with a keyboard that I do not keeps hitting that damned key on. . . |
| 02:00.30 | Gnuman | I would *really* like something with a G4 in it. . . |
| 02:01.58 | Gnuman | My own problem is that wireless_key <key in hex> gives me Operation not supported with the AirPort in Linux |
| 02:02.35 | Gnuman | which means that I can only link to open APs under Linux |
| 02:02.48 | Gnuman | which is no good for me. . . |
| 02:04.42 | karim | mmm |
| 02:05.15 | Gnuman | so until I get this figured out, I'm stuck with Panther |
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| 02:06.35 | Gnuman | I'm thinking that there is something that I'm missing, but I can link to open APs just fine. . . |
| 02:06.38 | Gnuman | well sorta. . . |
| 02:07.06 | Gnuman | I also only get about half the signal level that I should. . . |
| 02:07.29 | Gnuman | does this ring any bells with anyone? |
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| 02:22.02 | Gnuman | let me try again, does poor signal strength and inability to set WEP on AirPort cards in Linux sound familiar to anyone? |
| 02:22.12 | Gnuman | is there a fix available? |
| 02:22.41 | Gnuman | I have kernel 2.6.12, and both Hermes and AirPort are built in. |
| 02:22.59 | Gnuman | I obviously have wireless_tools as well. . . |
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| 02:23.25 | Gnuman | sim |
| 02:23.56 | Gnuman | SimonRaven, do you know anything of AirPort cards? |
| 02:30.24 | tarheelcoxn | Gnuman: wireless_key didn't work? |
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| 02:35.56 | Gnuman | No, that is what I actually had. . . |
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| 02:36.14 | Gnuman | it gave Unsupported Option: Set ENCODE |
| 02:37.49 | Gnuman | I'm also getting about half the signal level I should be. . . |
| 02:38.03 | Gnuman | and a lot more noise than I should. . . |
| 02:38.17 | Gnuman | based on what I see in Panther. . . |
| 02:38.48 | Gnuman | I'm able to link to an open AP, but not if it has a WEP set |
| 02:39.22 | Gnuman | about half of the wireless options do not work actually. . . |
| 02:40.16 | Gnuman | this AP only has 40 bit encryption, or I would not be able to get online even in Panther. . . |
| 02:40.25 | Gnuman | this is an original AirPort. |
| 02:41.34 | Gnuman | feel free to jump in when I give information that points to the problem. . . |
| 02:41.40 | Gnuman | <G> |
| 02:42.11 | tarheelcoxn | I was having similar problems on a thinkpad until I switched to the hostap driver |
| 02:42.18 | Gnuman | Clamshell iBook (original) |
| 02:42.38 | tarheelcoxn | I'm not sure what alternatives you have in terms of drivers |
| 02:43.04 | Gnuman | The Airport is a HermesI card. . . |
| 02:43.52 | Gnuman | wlan NG does not work with it (usually either wireless tools, or wlan NG will work |
| 02:44.02 | Gnuman | but not both. . . |
| 02:46.55 | Gnuman | I had wireless woking great on my Thinkpad and a Linksys PCMCIA card. . . |
| 02:47.10 | Gnuman | that used wlan-ng |
| 02:47.53 | tarheelcoxn | o.0 |
| 02:48.00 | tarheelcoxn | I thought the linksys cards were a pain |
| 02:48.07 | tarheelcoxn | ndiswrapper and whatnot |
| 02:49.04 | Gnuman | Well, I was able to get it to work. . . |
| 02:49.12 | Gnuman | but that was x86. . . |
| 02:49.26 | Gnuman | I need a PPC solution now. . . |
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| 02:50.11 | Gnuman | SWMBO got the Thinkpad, and I got this old iBook. . . |
| 02:50.12 | demon | the airport card in my pismo works perfectly |
| 02:50.51 | Gnuman | You think there is a difference in the OF interface? |
| 02:51.26 | Gnuman | or do you have more than the Hermes and Airport modules built for it? |
| 02:51.30 | demon | what kind of laptop have you got? |
| 02:51.43 | Gnuman | original clamshell iBook |
| 02:52.10 | Gnuman | it is OF, but I don't know if that spec has changed since. . . |
| 02:52.31 | Gnuman | G3, 300Mhz |
| 02:52.52 | demon | well, considering the airport card has mostly no OF interface to speak of (just a node and a few properties, no words), I don't think that's the problem |
| 02:53.15 | Gnuman | Hmmm, what could the difference be then? |
| 02:53.30 | demon | did you specify the key right? |
| 02:53.54 | Gnuman | Yes, I *created* the key on the AP. . . |
| 02:54.14 | Gnuman | same key in Panther as Linux. . . |
| 02:54.33 | Gnuman | in Linux I get operation not supported. . . |
| 02:54.37 | demon | yeah, but did you specify it correctly to iwconfig? with hyphens between every set of 4 hex digits? |
| 02:55.16 | Gnuman | it did not say I needed hyphens between every 4 digits. . . |
| 02:55.24 | demon | man iwconfig :) |
| 02:55.38 | Gnuman | It said either way was fine. . . |
| 02:55.43 | demon | hehe |
| 02:55.47 | demon | it doesn't work |
| 02:55.54 | demon | I've tried that |
| 02:56.03 | Gnuman | I'll try that way. . . |
| 02:56.37 | Gnuman | before I go, if the digits are 01 05 03 or somesuch, do I need the 0? |
| 02:56.45 | Gnuman | I'm thinking yes. . . |
| 02:56.55 | demon | yes |
| 02:57.03 | Gnuman | OK, I'll be back. . . |
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| 03:03.32 | Gnuman | wireless_key XXXX-XXXX-XX did not work |
| 03:04.12 | Gnuman | still getting Operation not supported: Set ENCODE |
| 03:05.29 | demon | are you sure you're setting the key on the right interface? |
| 03:05.35 | Gnuman | demon, what modules do you have? |
| 03:05.43 | tarheelcoxn | Gnuman: granted I'm using hostap right now, but mine works with xx:xx:xx.... |
| 03:05.46 | Gnuman | yes. |
| 03:06.05 | Gnuman | iwconfig? |
| 03:06.07 | demon | airport 7232 0 |
| 03:06.07 | demon | orinoco 46836 1 airport |
| 03:06.07 | demon | hermes 8288 2 airport,orinoco |
| 03:06.15 | demon | those are the loaded modules |
| 03:06.48 | Gnuman | where do you find Orinoco in the kernel? |
| 03:07.05 | demon | did you build a custom kernel? |
| 03:07.10 | Gnuman | yes |
| 03:07.35 | Gnuman | the debian images do not work for me. . . |
| 03:07.55 | demon | they're good on my pismo |
| 03:08.11 | Gnuman | what filesystem are you using for /? |
| 03:08.23 | Gnuman | I'm using ext3 |
| 03:09.13 | Gnuman | and it fails to find initrd.bin |
| 03:09.24 | demon | jfs |
| 03:09.30 | Gnuman | and I end up with a kernel panic. . . |
| 03:09.35 | demon | er... it should be initrd.img |
| 03:09.47 | Gnuman | yeah, that is what I meant. . . |
| 03:09.59 | Gnuman | I do not use one on my hand wrapped ones. . . |
| 03:11.08 | demon | but in any case, it's under Device Drivers -> Networking support -> Wireless LAN (non-hamradio) -> Wireless LAN drivers -> Hermes chipset 802.11b support -> Apple Airport support |
| 03:11.48 | Gnuman | I have that selected. . . |
| 03:11.59 | Gnuman | that gives me Hermes, and Airport |
| 03:12.10 | Gnuman | but not Orinoco |
| 03:12.15 | tarheelcoxn | Gnuman: you used make-kpkg? |
| 03:12.29 | Gnuman | no. |
| 03:12.43 | Gnuman | I rolled my own kernel. . . |
| 03:13.21 | Gnuman | and edited /etc/yaboot.conf |
| 03:13.30 | Gnuman | then ran ybin |
| 03:13.45 | Gnuman | works great for most things. . . |
| 03:20.41 | Gnuman | let me look in .config to see if orinoco is on there at all. . . |
| 03:21.29 | myXtie | the netinstall cd doesn't work here too (it fails to recognise usb keyboard) |
| 03:22.19 | myXtie | Gnuman you may need to update your config from fresh powermac since options change |
| 03:23.38 | myXtie | I have a bad firewire ports ( builtin on Cube ) and it borks my ohci that borks hid but I had usb working with 2.6.11 and later |
| 03:24.05 | Gnuman | when I get a new kernel I "make defconfig" then "make menuconfig" |
| 03:24.42 | myXtie | hi Gnuman long time no see ;) |
| 03:25.25 | Gnuman | so that should give me a fresh .config |
| 03:25.32 | Gnuman | heya myXtie |
| 03:26.06 | Gnuman | I've been on the road for the last three months. . . |
| 03:26.31 | Gnuman | and someone seems to have grabbed my nick. . . |
| 03:26.43 | Gnuman | or I have forgotten my password. . . |
| 03:29.26 | myXtie | Did you grep a orinoco ? |
| 03:29.43 | Gnuman | I'm in Panther ATM. . . |
| 03:29.47 | Gnuman | bbiab. . . |
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| 03:38.52 | Gnuman | orinoco is not in .config |
| 03:39.03 | Gnuman | either set or not. . . |
| 03:43.40 | Gnuman | is there an external tarball to build the module? |
| 03:46.56 | myXtie | http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html |
| 03:47.29 | myXtie | look for Benjamin on this page |
| 03:48.29 | myXtie | sounds like you need this driver so demon is right possibly |
| 03:53.42 | Gnuman | Hmmm, it is timing out. . . |
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| 04:13.43 | Gnuman | Grrrr. . . |
| 04:13.53 | Gnuman | I guess I'll have to try it later. . . |
| 04:15.25 | Gnuman | unless anyone has the tarball that they can send to me? |
| 04:21.41 | myXtie | humm I have 2.6.11 kernel source code here and if you look under drivers/net/wireless you will see orinoco.c |
| 04:25.40 | Gnuman | so how do you select it? |
| 04:27.31 | Gnuman | if it is not represented in .config? |
| 04:27.45 | myXtie | where is demon he said he has it as module ? |
| 04:28.07 | Gnuman | he is using 2.6.11 |
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| 04:28.32 | Gnuman | hmmmm. . . . |
| 04:29.44 | myXtie | I don't know what demon is using and it is not in 2.6.11 powermac config ( orinoco is not an option in .config ) |
| 04:35.32 | Gnuman | demon, you there? |
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| 04:39.54 | Gnuman | bbiab |
| 04:40.22 | Gnuman | I'm gonna go looking for the code in my kernel tree. . . |
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| 04:48.25 | Gnuman | OK, I'm on wired |
| 04:53.57 | Gnuman | OK, orinoco.c is in there. . . |
| 04:54.42 | Gnuman | now how to set it to build with the kernel. . . |
| 04:54.58 | myXtie_ | CONFIG_PCMCIA_HERMES looks like what you need possibly the makefile is calling orinoco_cs.c but this is the older version of codes name |
| 04:55.11 | myXtie_ | so you may have to hack the makefile |
| 04:56.12 | Gnuman | I wonder if demon will answer sometime? |
| 04:56.13 | Gnuman | <G> |
| 04:56.18 | myXtie_ | look at the makefile in that wireless directory and the orinoco.c file and you will see what I mean |
| 04:57.14 | myXtie_ | I don't know but you can always wait ( besides I am going to signoff soon too ) |
| 05:02.02 | Gnuman | I have that set, actually. . . |
| 05:03.49 | myXtie_ | well but it points to orinoco_cs.o ( the makefile does ) which is the old name for the file so orinoco.c would not be picked as the object in the makefile |
| 05:06.15 | Gnuman | hermes points to both hermes and orinoco |
| 05:10.00 | myXtie_ | not CONFIG_HERMES in the makefile but the one under it points to orinoco_cs.o or the output of "cc orinoco_cs.c" compile of orinoco_cs.c |
| 05:10.36 | myXtie_ | what I am saying is what if you change "bj-$(CONFIG_PCMCIA_HERMES)+= orinoco_cs.o" |
| 05:11.09 | myXtie_ | to "obj-$(CONFIG_PCMCIA_HERMES)+= orinoco.o" |
| 05:14.27 | Gnuman | well if this build does not give me an orinoco module, i'll try that. . . |
| 05:15.14 | Gnuman | I'm rebuilding the kernel with the the Airport built as a module. . . |
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| 09:31.55 | iOops | hi |
| 09:39.39 | SimonRaven | fucking bullshit |
| 09:48.16 | jaska | .. everything is |
| 09:50.15 | SimonRaven | boot.img doesn't |
| 09:50.52 | SimonRaven | HTiF are supposed to do a rescue when they don't boot? |
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| 14:11.00 | SimonRaven | got my other thing to boot to mock os, with the 2940/power domain card as a bootable scsi bus, and twiddling with dpkg -x from the booted linux os, set up by system disk in mock os, re-doing up my boo-boo from yesterday, trying not to pull the plug on the other thing (iskwahtemis) because the battery is dead and won't keep anything in nvram if i pull the plug, so i have to be careful when inserting/removing the pci card, and now i have to get e |
| 14:11.08 | SimonRaven | oi vey, sorry about that |
| 14:11.50 | SimonRaven | anyone willing to do some hardware hacking and put a writable ROM onto an oldworld box? :) |
| 14:12.38 | SimonRaven | (if you can replace the hardcoded rom with the needed stuff, plus an updated firmware, you could say good-bye to oldworld, and keep the h/w ;) |
| 14:12.55 | SimonRaven | just a thought |
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| 15:27.14 | karim | hi |
| 15:27.22 | karim | anyone know open firmware here ? |
| 15:28.05 | segher | i sure do |
| 15:28.22 | karim | do you know the commands ? |
| 15:28.41 | karim | I want to force pci vga as primary device |
| 15:28.55 | karim | and shu off agp device |
| 15:28.58 | karim | shut |
| 15:30.10 | segher | what is "primary device" |
| 15:30.33 | segher | oh, you mean, you have two video cards |
| 15:30.55 | segher | you just say " /path/to/your/card" stdout |
| 15:31.01 | segher | that's all |
| 15:31.20 | segher | that will make that card your OF console |
| 15:31.39 | segher | you'll probably have to convince linux separately, though |
| 15:32.03 | karim | mmm |
| 15:32.11 | karim | stdout ? |
| 15:32.21 | karim | in fact I badly flashed the agp card |
| 15:32.45 | segher | yes, stdout |
| 15:32.51 | karim | and previously the display was scrambled |
| 15:33.11 | segher | erm |
| 15:33.14 | karim | but now it won't even boot when this card is in the mac |
| 15:33.19 | segher | the command is output , not stdout |
| 15:33.36 | karim | segher that's what I was thinking :) |
| 15:33.53 | karim | I need to flash it again |
| 15:34.01 | karim | but since I can't boot with it plugued now |
| 15:34.17 | karim | so I am searching a way so it ignore the card |
| 15:34.25 | karim | and don't try to initialise it |
| 15:35.55 | karim | segher any idea ? |
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| 15:36.55 | segher | dunno |
| 15:37.12 | segher | you could try disabling the card in OF |
| 15:37.38 | karim | that's what I want to do |
| 15:37.55 | karim | I don't know how though but that's certainly feasible |
| 15:38.02 | karim | considering the power of OF |
| 15:39.41 | segher | the " /that/video/card/that/does/work" output thing should work |
| 15:40.18 | karim | ok I will try that |
| 15:40.30 | karim | I am not sure what boot-screen option is for |
| 15:40.53 | karim | I have tried to put it to my video card but it change nothing |
| 15:42.29 | segher | never seen that option, sorry |
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| 15:44.04 | karim | it's a nvram variable |
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| 16:08.45 | demon | er... don't you mean the input-device and output-device variables? or the 'screen' devalias? |
| 16:08.56 | demon | I think you can 'nvalias' it |
| 16:09.02 | segher | you can probably, yes |
| 16:09.27 | demon | which will set the alias in nvramrc and set the flag to run nvramrc |
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| 16:39.23 | karim | demon mmm ? |
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| 16:45.16 | SimonRaven | yay me |
| 16:48.39 | Bor_Ed | what's up with yer mask ? :) |
| 17:01.50 | SimonRaven | it's the new stuff in hyperion |
| 17:02.01 | Bor_Ed | mmmkay |
| 17:06.06 | demon | yay for breaking IRC conventins |
| 17:06.10 | demon | conventions, too |
| 17:11.09 | SimonRaven | seems rather dumb the '/'. and i don't like the n/N= / i/I= stuff either. what's wrong with ~ with no ident and no ~ with ident data found? :) (probably has nickserv shit involved too) |
| 17:12.21 | demon | because breaking things is fun |
| 17:12.40 | Bor_Ed | yea, SimonRaven, you should use sid so you'd see more fun :D |
| 17:13.28 | SimonRaven | i am ;) |
| 17:13.51 | Bor_Ed | //sarcasm// |
| 17:16.17 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 17:16.59 | demon | and lilo's twin loves - breaking shit and being as difficult as possible - ar both served byt that |
| 17:16.59 | joel | what'd you guys think of buying a 12" ibook? |
| 17:17.27 | Bor_Ed | get g3 if you have a choice... g4 wifi still doesn't work in linux |
| 17:17.49 | joel | what about 12 inches then, is it enough? |
| 17:18.05 | Bor_Ed | it's enough... 1024x768 resolution iirc |
| 17:18.08 | joel | theres no store around for me to try them out :/ |
| 17:19.26 | joel | theres been progress on reverse engineering for a wifi driver though |
| 17:19.36 | Bor_Ed | yup |
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| 17:20.36 | veritanuda | Evening all... looking for some help anyone willing? |
| 17:21.44 | veritanuda | Come on it is a bit of a challenge.. and old world powerbook ;) |
| 17:22.58 | veritanuda | Need to know what "Strange media-bay not stopped" means.. and if it is signifcant to why the kernel can't find the root partition |
| 17:23.24 | veritanuda | It probes the ide fine, find the drive , cdrom etc.. but there is not partition scan that I see? |
| 17:23.42 | veritanuda | you know the <p1> <p2> etc.. |
| 17:24.26 | veritanuda | odd thing is it will boot off the ram disk obviously as I managed to install the system |
| 17:32.50 | veritanuda | hmmmm the plot sickens.. |
| 17:33.57 | veritanuda | Booted with the ramdisk, and even though it has made the nodes for parts /dev/ha10 still thinks there is no device there? |
| 17:37.07 | veritanuda | ahh sok.... no ext3 module loaded\ |
| 17:41.47 | veritanuda | hmmm gotta go.. see ya |
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| 17:54.49 | karim | segher it doesn't work |
| 17:54.59 | karim | even when I set the good device |
| 17:55.02 | karim | it fails |
| 17:55.25 | karim | by the way the screen devalias always default to agp card |
| 17:55.27 | segher | in what way |
| 17:55.44 | karim | " /pci someting" output works |
| 17:56.06 | karim | in fact if I want to have OF display on pci card, i must run the mac without the agp |
| 17:56.15 | karim | and set the caraible output-device to the pci card |
| 17:56.28 | karim | variable |
| 17:56.44 | karim | then I can see OF with pci card |
| 17:57.00 | karim | but then when I run macboot |
| 17:57.17 | karim | instead of showing the apple |
| 17:57.28 | karim | it display a gray screen |
| 17:57.53 | karim | the agp card really mess things |
| 17:58.01 | karim | I can't run OS X or linux |
| 17:58.06 | karim | the problem is the same with both |
| 17:58.28 | karim | I will give up and throw that 29 euro radeon to the trash |
| 17:58.37 | segher | there's an easy way to fix this... |
| 17:58.46 | segher | ...send your agp card in for repairs |
| 17:58.47 | karim | a Hammer ? |
| 17:58.50 | segher | hehe |
| 17:59.07 | karim | they will return it with a PC rom on it |
| 17:59.12 | segher | or desolder the flash chip from your card, burn it in an external programmer |
| 17:59.14 | karim | what I want to do is put a mac rom |
| 17:59.30 | karim | I think I maybe can do something from a PC |
| 17:59.34 | segher | or, if you're lucky, you can do an in-circuit flash on it |
| 17:59.42 | segher | that might work, as well |
| 17:59.48 | karim | a pc with a pci card or integrated chip |
| 18:00.01 | karim | in circuit ? |
| 18:00.16 | karim | you mean injecting power to mess the rom ? |
| 18:00.24 | karim | I think an incalid rom would be more usefull |
| 18:00.27 | karim | invalid |
| 18:00.33 | karim | than this partially valid rom |
| 18:01.18 | segher | so just erase the first sector on the flash |
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| 18:07.33 | Gnuman | demon, I rebuilt the kernel with AirPort as modules, and it builds the orinoco module. . . |
| 18:07.46 | Gnuman | when it is built in, it simply does not show. . . |
| 18:07.51 | karim | segher how to do that ? |
| 18:07.57 | karim | can I do it with a Hamer ? |
| 18:07.59 | karim | or a fork |
| 18:10.31 | Gnuman | there is no difference in behaviour though. . . |
| 18:11.44 | segher | karim: just make sure the rom bar on the device is enabled, and write a couple of magic values to that address |
| 18:12.20 | segher | karim: i can't help you more detailed -- if you need hand-holding here, you'll screw it up anyway, sorry |
| 18:13.03 | Gnuman | segher, are you familliar with Airport under Linux? |
| 18:13.55 | Gnuman | and have you heard of a situation where you could not set the WEP key? and signal strength is about half what it should be? |
| 18:15.24 | segher | gnuman: i run macos (9 and/or x) on my imacs and powerbooks, sorry |
| 18:15.55 | segher | if i run linux on-em, i only care about having a character tty, nothing more |
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| 18:16.46 | Gnuman | Ahhh, OK. . . |
| 18:17.03 | Gnuman | I run Panther and Linux on my original iBook. . . |
| 18:17.37 | Gnuman | I can connect just fine under Panther, but I'm having dificulties under Linux. . . |
| 18:18.07 | Gnuman | with the WEP key, and with signal strength. . . |
| 18:18.54 | Gnuman | I'm getting about half the strength I should be (I', *right* in front of the AP, and it only shows half a bar of signal, at best) |
| 18:19.18 | Gnuman | and I cannot associate with an AP that is WEP'd |
| 18:19.41 | Gnuman | I get operation not supported:Set ENCODE |
| 18:21.30 | segher | you might have to downgrade your airport card firmware. but i can't remember at all. |
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| 18:26.20 | Gnuman | there is firmware on the card? |
| 18:26.33 | Gnuman | and it is adjustable? |
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| 18:39.36 | karim | segher the rom bar ? |
| 18:39.42 | karim | can I do that from linux ? |
| 18:39.54 | karim | doesn't matter anyway since I can't boot |
| 18:40.01 | karim | if could do from OF it would ok |
| 18:40.09 | karim | nevermind, I give up |
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| 18:42.06 | SoTMaR | Hello |
| 18:50.37 | SoTMaR | I'm going to try Debian Sarge in my PowerBook G4 |
| 18:51.20 | SoTMaR | I'd like to know if it's possible to let everything as it's now if I change my mind about Debian Sarge |
| 18:52.02 | pahartik | SoTMaR: try "unionfs"? |
| 18:52.16 | SoTMaR | What do you mean? |
| 18:52.29 | SoTMaR | I partitioned my HD when I installed Tiger |
| 18:52.56 | SoTMaR | I left 20 GB Free Space before the HFS+ Partition where I installed Tiger |
| 18:53.25 | pahartik | SoTMaR: oh, i assumed you had earlier version of Debian GNU/Linux... |
| 18:53.52 | SoTMaR | No, only Tiger by this time |
| 18:54.06 | SoTMaR | I'm reading the HOWTO of the Topic |
| 18:54.29 | SoTMaR | But I don't know if I can leave everything as it's now if I don't like it |
| 18:54.44 | pahartik | SoTMaR: there should be no problem |
| 18:56.00 | SoTMaR | Is it possible to "erase" yaboot and let Mac OS X boot as it's doing by now? |
| 18:57.36 | SoTMaR | Well, I'm going to try it ... |
| 18:57.44 | SoTMaR | Thankss |
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| 19:17.18 | Gnuman | karim, what do you mean by you're giving up? |
| 19:17.58 | Gnuman | going back to annother card, or giving up on the box at all? |
| 19:18.33 | Gnuman | bbiab, going to Linux to try something. . . |
| 19:31.22 | karim | I give up like I am giving up |
| 19:31.31 | karim | I don't think this card is flashable |
| 19:31.37 | karim | it should have worked |
| 19:32.03 | karim | I think I will buy a radeon for the pc, and switch the radeon8500 to the mac |
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| 21:07.42 | joe666 | hi there, is the power3 kernel image built specifically to run on G3 ibooks or powermacs ? |
| 21:09.45 | _rene_ | no |
| 21:09.51 | _rene_ | for ibooks, you want -powerpc |
| 21:10.29 | _rene_ | s/ibooks/g3- and g4-stuff/ |
| 21:10.29 | joe666 | _rene_, ok, that's what I have. is just that I saw the other flavors, and was wondering if any of those would be G3 specific, thanks a lot |
| 21:10.33 | demon | power3 and power4 != g3 and g4 |
| 21:10.51 | joe666 | demon, ok, good that I ask before I try |
| 21:11.16 | demon | power4 == huge, big like baby's head :) |
| 21:11.26 | demon | that's just the CPU, mind you |
| 21:12.19 | joe666 | thanks a lot guys |
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