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| 00:32.07 | SimonRaven | DsOft-ZzZ: man yaboot.conf. man pages are there to be read, not take up drive space |
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| 06:00.33 | NSAFreak | hello folks. How do I create a swap partition in Mac-fdisk? I can't seem to figure out the partition type when using the C command |
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| 12:14.58 | juliux | hi |
| 12:15.26 | juliux | i have compiled a 2.6.12 kernel but the kernel hangs when I try to boot it |
| 12:15.42 | juliux | the last message i see is setup_arch: enter |
| 12:15.47 | juliux | what did i wrong? |
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| 12:35.04 | juliux | ok now my kernel boot but only every 10th boot is success full |
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| 12:35.43 | demon | er... that's awfully vague... |
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| 12:36.41 | juliux | demon, the lsat message i see is setup_arch: enter |
| 12:36.47 | juliux | it is a 2.6.12.2 kernel |
| 12:37.16 | NuBus | it seemed to be something to do with successfully initialising a text console . I don't know if it's relevant on newer machines though |
| 12:37.38 | juliux | ok i have a new powerbook |
| 12:37.49 | NuBus | ahh. I'm no help then :) |
| 12:38.25 | juliux | NuBus, it is a beginning |
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| 14:04.53 | juliux | i have no try as a kernel option video=ofonly but it do not helps |
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| 16:14.52 | Beluc | hi |
| 16:15.24 | Beluc | is someone familiar with ppc on bull estralla 300 ? |
| 16:25.07 | Beluc | i'm always run into some stack error while booting from debian cd |
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| 17:12.11 | strat50s | hi |
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| 18:24.14 | _rene_ | anyone here has a iBook G4 of the newest series? or a PowerBook G4 here? |
| 18:24.32 | mgzh | I have a PowerBook G4, yes |
| 18:24.40 | juliux | _rene_, yes i have a G4 1,5Ghz powerbook |
| 18:24.57 | juliux | mgzh, what kernel version you ran? |
| 18:25.07 | mgzh | 2.6.3 |
| 18:25.21 | juliux | thxs |
| 18:25.36 | juliux | i ask because i can not run a 2.6.12 kernel |
| 18:25.50 | juliux | they all stop with setup_arch: enter |
| 18:25.53 | mgzh | I tried to compile the 2.6.11 2 hours before but without success |
| 18:26.04 | mgzh | exactly the same err-msg for me juliux |
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| 18:26.14 | juliux | 2.6.11.11 runs here but without supsend |
| 18:26.32 | mgzh | But it seems to me that I have to crosscheck the kernel config against my old config (i think i made a misconfiguration) |
| 18:26.39 | juliux | ok |
| 18:26.45 | johill | juliux: I'm using 2.6.13-rc6 with suspend2 with great success |
| 18:27.00 | juliux | johill, on what powerbook? |
| 18:27.06 | johill | latest 15" |
| 18:27.06 | juliux | i have a post februar 12" |
| 18:27.16 | johill | yeah |
| 18:27.33 | johill | I'm not sure if the latest version of suspend2 contains my fix patch tho |
| 18:27.56 | juliux | johill, i tried ever 2.6.12 version but all hangs up with setup_arch: enter |
| 18:28.08 | johill | odd. I never had that |
| 18:28.15 | johill | with suspend1 enabled? |
| 18:28.21 | juliux | yes |
| 18:28.25 | mgzh | _rene_: Do you also have an Apple mobile? |
| 18:28.26 | juliux | suspend to disk enabled |
| 18:28.32 | johill | does it work with disabled? |
| 18:28.55 | juliux | i did not try it out because i want to have suspend to disk |
| 18:29.09 | juliux | an everything else also works with 2.6.11.11 |
| 18:29.14 | johill | yeah, I can't help you with suspend1 tho, but I know suspend2 works great |
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| 18:29.35 | juliux | johill, thanks i will test it |
| 18:29.59 | mgzh | rehi _rene__ |
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| 18:30.05 | juliux | johill, do you have a link to suspend2 pachtes? |
| 18:30.15 | _rene__ | hi mgzh |
| 18:30.24 | johill | suspend2.net |
| 18:30.28 | _rene__ | juliux: do not work, I tried it. do not compile... |
| 18:30.37 | juliux | _rene_, ok |
| 18:30.40 | _rene__ | anyway |
| 18:30.49 | juliux | _rene_, what apple you have? |
| 18:30.58 | _rene__ | anyone with a iBook G4 (newest series) or pbook g4 here? |
| 18:31.10 | _rene__ | juliux: iBook G4, the last series |
| 18:31.19 | mgzh | _rene_: We all have Powerbooks and Ibooks ;-) |
| 18:31.19 | juliux | _rene_, yes a powerbook 12" |
| 18:31.23 | johill | _rene__: what doesn't compile? |
| 18:31.40 | _rene__ | johill: a kernel with the swsusp2 patches applied |
| 18:31.57 | johill | _rene__: latest should have my patch in it that makes it work |
| 18:32.05 | _rene__ | ah, hmm |
| 18:32.49 | johill | yep, ought to work, the patch is in |
| 18:33.04 | johill | if it doesn't compile complain to me or nigel, I haven't compile tested the latest release |
| 18:33.29 | _rene__ | ok, anyone please tell me which sensors you have in /syst/devices/temperatures |
| 18:33.51 | johill | sensor1_.. and sensor2_.. |
| 18:33.54 | _rene__ | I have sensor1 = CPU BOTTOMSIDE with sensor1_temperature and sensor1_fan_speed |
| 18:34.09 | _rene__ | and sensor2 = GPU_BOTTOMSIDE with sensor2_temperature |
| 18:34.10 | juliux | no sensors |
| 18:34.17 | juliux | but gpu_ and cpu_ |
| 18:34.19 | johill | I have sensor2 = PWR SUPPLY BOTTOMSIDE |
| 18:34.25 | _rene__ | johill: ah, hmm |
| 18:34.29 | johill | with sensor2_temperature |
| 18:34.36 | _rene__ | johill: gpu_temperature and cpu_temperature? |
| 18:34.43 | johill | no gpu_temp |
| 18:34.48 | juliux | _rene_, yes i have that |
| 18:34.52 | _rene__ | aha. |
| 18:34.55 | johill | sensor 0: CPU/INTREPID BOTTOMSIDE |
| 18:34.55 | johill | sensor 1: CPU BOTTOMSIDE |
| 18:34.55 | johill | sensor 2: PWR SUPPLY BOTTOMSIDE |
| 18:34.56 | _rene__ | hmm |
| 18:35.01 | johill | but sensor0 isn't there because it has no fan |
| 18:35.07 | _rene__ | jup |
| 18:35.25 | _rene__ | johill: which kernel? |
| 18:35.28 | johill | 2.6.13-rc6 |
| 18:35.44 | johill | (plain except for the fn button patch and suspend2) |
| 18:35.48 | _rene__ | because /me doesn't have them and needed to hack sensors-applet's source to use sensorX_* |
| 18:35.54 | _rene__ | aha, hmm |
| 18:36.00 | _rene__ | maybe that applet wants a new kernel |
| 18:36.09 | johill | possible |
| 18:37.01 | _rene__ | johill: you mean 2.1.9.14 for 2.6.13-rc6? |
| 18:37.34 | johill | 2.1.9.12 for 2.6.13-rc6 + my patch actually |
| 18:37.48 | _rene__ | aha. can you put that somewhere? |
| 18:37.52 | johill | but that should be pretty much the same, I think, as 2.1.9.14 |
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| 18:38.09 | johill | 2.1.9.14 has my patch in it. doesn't it compile? |
| 18:38.29 | johill | the patch is here: http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/ppc-suspend2-fix.patch |
| 18:39.20 | _rene__ | johill: didn't try it yet. will do now |
| 18:39.30 | johill | k |
| 18:39.36 | johill | let me know if something fails |
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| 18:50.24 | _rene_ | johill: fails here again. although other than the last time ,) |
| 18:50.35 | johill | hm. ok I'll d/l it and check it out |
| 18:51.11 | _rene_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.11 | _rene_ | In file included from include/acpi/platform/acenv.h:123, |
| 18:51.11 | _rene_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.11 | _rene_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.11 | _rene_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.13 | _rene_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.16 | _rene_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.18 | _rene_ | include/acpi/platform/aclinux.h:59:22: asm/acpi.h: No such file or directory |
| 18:51.21 | _rene_ | (sorry for the flood) |
| 18:51.23 | johill | heh |
| 18:51.24 | _rene_ | [...] |
| 18:51.54 | _rene_ | of course acpi makes no sense... |
| 18:52.09 | johill | sec |
| 18:52.21 | johill | remove the acpi includes from include/linux/suspend2.h |
| 18:52.40 | johill | ok, not that trivial. give me a few minutes |
| 18:56.32 | johill | http://pastebin.com/343222 |
| 18:57.38 | johill | hm. I'm not too sure if that'll actually work. I can guarantee that what I wrote above works though. I could even give you a kernel config |
| 18:57.52 | johill | i.e. for 2.1.9.12 for 2.6.13-rc6 + my patch |
| 19:01.32 | _rene_ | hmm. ok. thanks. will do that then :) |
| 19:02.32 | _rene_ | can you put that patch somewhere, too? |
| 19:02.40 | _rene_ | seems not to be anymore on sf |
| 19:03.34 | _rene_ | (www.suspend2.net actually) |
| 19:04.04 | johill | which one? |
| 19:04.13 | johill | 2.1.9.12? |
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| 19:04.46 | johill | http://suspend2.net/downloads/all/software-suspend-2.1.9.12-for-2.6.13-rc5.tar.bz2 |
| 19:06.34 | _rene_ | johill: thanks |
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| 19:10.47 | nooneelse | someone knows how to boot into cdrom in powerbook g4(mac-ppc) ? |
| 19:11.32 | johill | nooneelse: from where? works for me if I hold the option button during boot and select the cdrom picture |
| 19:13.42 | _rene_ | or press "c" during the apple sound... |
| 19:14.29 | nooneelse | "during" it sounds ? |
| 19:14.48 | _rene_ | well, at the sound... |
| 19:14.54 | nooneelse | hmm |
| 19:14.57 | nooneelse | it didnt worked |
| 19:15.12 | ^ix^ | how about alt |
| 19:15.26 | nooneelse | alt worked |
| 19:15.32 | ^ix^ | i got cd icon + tux |
| 19:15.34 | johill | alt is option ;) |
| 19:15.43 | ^ix^ | same thing |
| 19:15.53 | ^ix^ | but after that i got white screen |
| 19:16.06 | ^ix^ | video=ofonly ? |
| 19:16.39 | nooneelse | ^ix^ but appears just the HD icon |
| 19:17.15 | ^ix^ | i disconnected all the other drives so it was only |
| 19:17.41 | nooneelse | but I'm talking about a power'BOOK' |
| 19:18.15 | johill | did you insert a bootable cd? ;) |
| 19:18.40 | _rene_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.40 | _rene_ | In file included from arch/ppc/kernel/swsusp.c:29: |
| 19:18.40 | _rene_ | include/asm/suspend.h:2: error: redefinition of `arch_prepare_suspend' |
| 19:18.40 | _rene_ | include/asm/suspend.h:2: error: `arch_prepare_suspend' previously defined here |
| 19:18.46 | johill | ouch |
| 19:18.56 | johill | and I just deleted the kernel |
| 19:19.44 | johill | swsusp != suspend2 |
| 19:19.57 | _rene_ | I meant the swsusp2 people, yeah |
| 19:20.05 | johill | wait a minute |
| 19:20.22 | johill | I suppose you shouldn't be compiling with both |
| 19:20.44 | _rene_ | 1 and 2 |
| 19:20.45 | _rene_ | hmm |
| 19:20.46 | _rene_ | may be |
| 19:20.50 | _rene_ | I used my old config |
| 19:20.54 | johill | definitely a conflict between those two |
| 19:21.04 | johill | swsusp.c isn't compiled with suspend2 |
| 19:21.13 | ^ix^ | how do i get past the white screen on boot? |
| 19:21.32 | _rene_ | yeah, it's logical |
| 19:21.42 | nooneelse | where do I get the ppc debian iso ? |
| 19:21.46 | johill | it ought to work, but I guess that's still a bug |
| 19:21.48 | _rene_ | make oldconfig is so fast you forget to disable swsusp1 |
| 19:21.54 | _rene_ | nooneelse: every debian cd mirror |
| 19:21.56 | johill | heh yeah :) |
| 19:22.17 | nooneelse | _rene_ so every cd of debian is have the ppc arch support ? |
| 19:22.22 | nooneelse | s/every/each |
| 19:22.24 | _rene_ | no |
| 19:22.33 | nooneelse | _rene_ so what ? |
| 19:22.35 | _rene_ | but the ppc isos are on the cd mirrors, too |
| 19:22.43 | nooneelse | _rene_ hmm |
| 19:22.45 | nooneelse | lemme check |
| 19:22.51 | _rene_ | go to some mirror which has the ppc isos and get them |
| 19:23.02 | _rene_ | or use jigdo. or install over net using a netinst iso |
| 19:24.09 | johill | nooneelse: e.g. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/powerpc/bt-cd/ |
| 19:24.18 | ^ix^ | [22:21] <^ix^>how do i get past the white screen on boot? |
| 19:24.37 | johill | or http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/powerpc/jigdo-cd/ |
| 19:24.56 | johill | ^ix^: the white screen is -- afaik -- a firmware function. it should just go past |
| 19:25.38 | ^ix^ | i waited like 1 min, and nothing happened |
| 19:26.21 | johill | ^ix^: sounds weird. |
| 19:26.32 | johill | have you looked around apple's support site? |
| 19:27.01 | ^ix^ | why apples? |
| 19:27.10 | ^ix^ | everything else works fine |
| 19:27.21 | ^ix^ | including booting from cd |
| 19:27.56 | johill | hm. I thought the white screen appears before booting anything |
| 19:28.16 | ^ix^ | it wasent all white... |
| 19:28.20 | johill | oh |
| 19:28.53 | ^ix^ | there were the sysfolder whit question mark, on white whit all other colors weird too |
| 19:29.13 | ^ix^ | that was when pressing c |
| 19:29.36 | ^ix^ | whit alt/option after choosing the cd it turnd that way |
| 19:32.13 | nooneelse | johill thanks |
| 19:32.34 | johill | just use bittorrent or jigdo to download an image |
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| 19:53.11 | sktrdie | can anyone help me install beagle on my powerbook? |
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| 20:10.01 | juliux | has anybody a 2.6.12er kernel on a post februar powerbook running? |
| 20:14.12 | _rene_ | hmmmmm |
| 20:14.25 | _rene_ | with 2.6.13-rc6 I still need to patch sensors-applet |
| 20:14.42 | _rene_ | since I don't have cpu_ and gpu_ but sensorX_* |
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| 20:26.42 | _rene_ | juliux: I forgot to ask you: which kernel do you use? |
| 20:27.02 | _rene_ | (wrt that sensor stuff...) |
| 20:27.05 | juliux | _rene_, at the moment 2.6.11.11 |
| 20:27.14 | juliux | but i want to use 2.6.12.x |
| 20:27.43 | juliux | because with 2.6.11.11 sound,bluetooth and suspend to disk do not work |
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| 21:33.35 | Lili^ | hi |
| 21:46.26 | Lili^ | i have to buy a new laptop and i was thinking about the latest ibook but i have some doubt with ppc support, could someone help? |
| 21:46.57 | johill | where do you smell trouble? linux works just fine on my powerbook :) |
| 21:47.11 | Lili^ | i know current support is good :) |
| 21:47.14 | Lili^ | the question is... how about ppc support in the future? |
| 21:47.24 | johill | if you're really into java stuff you might not like ppc much |
| 21:47.52 | johill | it surely won't just disappear, apple isn't the only vendor selling these things |
| 21:49.49 | Lili^ | well i was wondering if i will have a complete debian port for ppc in the next two years .. or three :) |
| 21:50.44 | johill | I'm counting on it and don't see a reason why not |
| 21:51.07 | Lili^ | sounds good |
| 21:51.27 | johill | but I'm just a generic hacker, not really doing anything for/in debian |
| 21:51.50 | Lili^ | the reason why was the apple turn to intel arch |
| 21:52.51 | johill | yeah, but like I said -- there's much more to ppc than just appel |
| 21:52.54 | johill | s/appel/apple/ |
| 21:53.23 | Lili^ | yes maybe i'm just bugging myself too much |
| 22:25.55 | Lili^ | goodnite |
| 22:26.00 | Lili^ | (tnx johill:) |
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