| 00:00.17 | SimonRaven | 'loses'. and apt-cache search ups |
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| 01:22.59 | dfc | has anyone here installed debian and openbsd on the same machine? |
| 01:24.08 | dfc | does the order of installation matter? |
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| 02:42.38 | dfc | does anyone have a good reference for dualbooting debian and openbsd on a ppc? I can not figure out how to get openbsd to install without messing up yaboot |
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| 11:43.08 | blk | has someone here tryed (or succeeded in) compiling Quake 3 Arena for Linux/PPC? |
| 11:43.44 | SimonRaven | no, and no. maybe some others have... |
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| 11:45.43 | Bor_Ed | it's got some x86 asm in the sources so prolly won't compile |
| 11:45.58 | SimonRaven | oh, probably won't then |
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| 11:46.48 | sk1p | uh, they have replacements in C |
| 11:47.01 | Bor_Ed | mmkay |
| 11:47.28 | SimonRaven | run gcc on the asm, and wait for the c output |
| 11:47.38 | MrNikel | Hi, Im having problems with the last debian ppc64 kernel (2.6.12-5). I have a dual G5. The problem is that for whatever reason, the system hangs and fans start to work out of control. I guess the last is due to the fact that the code of the module controlling the fans can not be scheduled (so is not the problem itself). The only different thing that I think II have in my computer was a CD put into the CD-reader (A DVD actually). |
| 11:47.40 | MrNikel | Aug 26 15:38:20 localhost kernel: ISOFS: changing to secondary root. I suspect that it could have something to do with the cdfs. Any idea? |
| 11:47.49 | sk1p | SimonRaven: ? |
| 11:48.26 | SimonRaven | i'm probably confused, but i seem to remember doing a trick that... oh yeh, the other way... :) |
| 11:48.34 | SimonRaven | C -> asm |
| 11:48.42 | sk1p | ;) |
| 11:49.45 | blk | would be a cool function -> maybe in GCC 28.3 ;) |
| 11:49.49 | SimonRaven | tyr not booting to the dvd =) |
| 11:49.54 | SimonRaven | j/k |
| 11:50.00 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 11:50.19 | MrNikel | Did even boot from it. |
| 11:52.16 | MrNikel | By the way, any idead about the alsa thing? are there people working on the mac alsa module? |
| 11:52.49 | SimonRaven | yeh, there's a bounty, and the dev/maintainer for it actually has a ppc box now |
| 11:53.16 | MrNikel | I have a G5 willing to execute experimental code, dont know If they would need so. |
| 11:53.55 | SimonRaven | ask the people in #mklinux, they're up on this (they're the coders for it ;) |
| 12:01.44 | MrNikel | What does ISOFS: changing to secondary root mean? |
| 12:02.31 | SimonRaven | sounds like it's switching root (/) dirs |
| 12:04.04 | ErRandir | primary directory entry of the CD/DVD was no good. maybe a scratch |
| 12:04.23 | MrNikel | I see. and it takes the secondary one |
| 12:05.04 | MrNikel | So it could be a problem on the part of the module that handles that?. I guess the the crashing thing only occurs when having a CD inserted. |
| 12:05.40 | SimonRaven | all cds, or just the one? |
| 12:06.00 | ErRandir | read my mind :) |
| 12:06.08 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 12:08.13 | MrNikel | Something to check out |
| 12:08.33 | MrNikel | but. What I know is that the message was every time this crashing occured. |
| 12:09.23 | MrNikel | But with many cds |
| 12:09.28 | SimonRaven | sure. could've hit an iso9660 bug, or something related |
| 12:09.58 | MrNikel | Should I set up the sebug mode for that module to see what happends? |
| 12:10.29 | MrNikel | That seems hard when using an already compiled kernel. The is not a way to do so in user level is it? |
| 12:11.12 | SimonRaven | user space ... strace or ltrace on some app that accesses the cd / dvd device |
| 12:11.29 | SimonRaven | attach gdb to it, or something... but that's user space... |
| 12:11.56 | MrNikel | Bu tthe problem is not in user space, otherwise the kernel wont hung. |
| 12:12.23 | ErRandir | got magic sysrq in the kernel? |
| 12:12.32 | MrNikel | lets see |
| 12:12.44 | MrNikel | it is the last one on debian repositories. |
| 12:12.47 | SimonRaven | xmon is a POS... |
| 12:13.32 | MrNikel | CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y |
| 12:13.54 | SimonRaven | s/he does |
| 12:14.04 | MrNikel | so, recompiling time? |
| 12:14.28 | ErRandir | try using it |
| 12:14.41 | ErRandir | Alt-F13-h I think |
| 12:14.49 | SimonRaven | no, you have it. see sysrq in <kernel source>/Documentation/ |
| 12:14.52 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 12:15.22 | MrNikel | I guess the later cause Im a bit confuging |
| 12:15.44 | SimonRaven | go to console, then do alt-F13-h |
| 12:16.18 | MrNikel | hehe, Alt F13 is already taken from gnome... |
| 12:16.53 | SimonRaven | hold down alt and F13, alt first |
| 12:17.17 | MrNikel | it exited from the console |
| 12:18.40 | MrNikel | should dmes read something? |
| 12:19.19 | ErRandir | must be mapped to another key then |
| 12:21.18 | ErRandir | dunno what keyboard driver your G5 has |
| 12:22.03 | MrNikel | Interesting the magic keys thing. Im reading the doc |
| 12:23.19 | MrNikel | It can be done setting the /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq to the proper value |
| 12:23.31 | SimonRaven | yup |
| 12:23.39 | MrNikel | Now all functions are activated as it reads 1 |
| 12:25.48 | MrNikel | The problem is, for example when Xwindow System locks your keyboard, in that case even with a working kernel you cant do so much. (unless you connect elsewhere) |
| 12:28.49 | ErRandir | thats why sysrq is coded into the keyboard driver |
| 12:30.00 | MrNikel | Wow, interesting, but need to get the key mapping work. |
| 12:39.25 | MrNikel | I have an usb keyboard, when I dumo /dev/input/event2 the keyboard info is in raw mode. What program should I use to monitorize the keyboard input? |
| 12:39.53 | SimonRaven | showkey |
| 12:42.13 | MrNikel | is it normal what when I use showkey the console keeps input blank lines?, the man says it dumps the key events only. |
| 12:43.13 | MrNikel | "0x00 0x81 0xb7 0x80 0x81 0xb7" Is that the printscreen? |
| 12:44.27 | MrNikel | keycode 93 (says the kernel) |
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| 13:05.32 | ErRandir | normal keycode for SYSRQ is 99 |
| 13:07.11 | ErRandir | mapped to key 0x56, 86 on usb keyboards |
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| 14:25.43 | arekm | hi, does anyone know what _SDA_BASE_ is on ppc (only) ? |
| 14:29.13 | arekm | wget: symbol lookup error: wget: undefined symbol: _SDA_BASE_, due to problem with openssl |
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| 15:11.57 | MrNikel | Hi, there is no keycode in my keyboard mapped to 0x54 (SYSRQ_KEY). |
| 15:12.26 | MrNikel | Cant I reconfigure the kernel without recompiling? |
| 15:15.18 | MrNikel | setkeycodes... |
| 15:18.13 | MrNikel | KDSETKEYCODE: device oes not exist |
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| 18:04.52 | twb | I'm upgrading my Mac Mini's kernel from 2.6.8 to 2.6.12. Do I still need to apply the diff to get sound? |
| 18:27.34 | twb | Answer: no. http://www.pvv.org/%7eperchrh/macmini/ |
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| 20:37.43 | demon | anyone know why the ip6_tables modules aren't being built into Debian packaged kernels these days? |
| 20:38.43 | kimo_sabe | demon: my guess would be because nobody has noticed/complained |
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| 21:03.11 | meds | how can i boot into my debian install using the kernel from the install cd? |
| 21:12.49 | kimo_sabe | linux root=/dev/whatever |
| 21:13.26 | meds | that doesn't seem to work in yaboot |
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| 21:27.23 | kimo_sabe | it's got nothing to do with yaboot |
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| 21:34.24 | witch | Hi! |
| 21:34.54 | witch | is it a known problem, tht system clock lacks time on mac mini? |
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| 21:38.16 | TTimo | w00t just rebooted into my shesky ibook running sarge :) |
| 21:38.23 | kimo_sabe | TTimo: sweeT1 |
| 21:39.39 | witch | twb: out here? |
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| 21:44.55 | TTimo | where is the debian inst channel btw? |
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| 21:49.17 | witch | TTimo: debian-boot? - maybe |
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| 23:08.32 | TTimo | anyone has the link to the airport express specs project ? |
| 23:42.20 | TTimo | eck gnome is not installable in sid |
| 23:43.48 | TTimo | how can I tell apt to go ahead and ignore missing dependencies ? |
| 23:43.56 | _rene_ | you don't. |
| 23:44.15 | _rene_ | (and can't. it will break apt) |
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| 23:48.23 | _rene_ | and gnome is installable, well, not the "gnome" dummy-package, but... |
| 23:48.28 | _rene_ | welcome in sid ;) |
| 23:49.20 | TTimo | how do you install it then |
| 23:49.25 | TTimo | I did apt-get install gnome |
| 23:49.34 | TTimo | or gnome-desktop-environment |
| 23:49.38 | TTimo | both failed |
| 23:50.15 | _rene_ | then don't use the dummy package? |
| 23:50.35 | TTimo | so what |
| 23:50.46 | TTimo | I look for all packages that start with gnome- |
| 23:50.49 | _rene_ | or try the gnome-core dummy package |
| 23:50.51 | TTimo | and I install them one by one ? |
| 23:51.06 | _rene_ | which does work... |
| 23:51.25 | _rene_ | TTimo: if that wouldn't work, something like that, ye |
| 23:51.26 | _rene_ | s |
| 23:51.33 | _rene_ | if you can't handle that, don't use sid |
| 23:51.36 | _rene_ | simple |
| 23:51.44 | TTimo | yeah thanks for the advice |
| 23:52.10 | TTimo | mh .. how do I switch between the virtual consoles ? I mean .. I know how to do it on x86 .. |
| 23:52.22 | TTimo | but the same key combos on the ibook give nada |
| 23:53.04 | _rene_ | it does.. |
| 23:53.22 | _rene_ | fix your keymap |
| 23:53.40 | TTimo | well .. it's my default boot keymap ( not in X ) |
| 23:53.54 | _rene_ | then it's obviously wrong |
| 23:54.32 | TTimo | not denying that. a few hints on what to do to fix it ? |
| 23:55.04 | _rene_ | what's your current keymap? |
| 23:55.37 | TTimo | how do I tell |
| 23:56.52 | _rene_ | .oO( another person using sid without clue ) |
| 23:56.56 | demon | it's the same, but for F1-F4 you'll likely have to hold the Fn key unless you install and use fnset to force it to not do that |
| 23:56.57 | _rene_ | dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 23:57.06 | _rene_ | demon: nope. |
| 23:57.13 | _rene_ | normal ctrl-alt-fX works |
| 23:57.17 | _rene_ | at least here... |
| 23:57.32 | _rene_ | mac-ibook-de keymap |
| 23:58.17 | TTimo | aaah |
| 23:58.21 | TTimo | ctrl-alt-Fn |
| 23:58.24 | TTimo | there we go |
| 23:58.34 | TTimo | an x86 box is ctrl-alt only |
| 23:58.43 | _rene_ | bullshit |
| 23:58.58 | _rene_ | switching to a console from X is ctrl-alt-FX, too |
| 23:58.59 | TTimo | yeah right I'm a newb and you're king of your nutshell |
| 23:59.12 | _rene_ | ctrl-alt alone do nothing |
| 23:59.31 | TTimo | w.h.a.t.e.v.e.r |
| 23:59.54 | _rene_ | speak properly. write properly |