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00:00.06_rene_and don't use sid if you are a newbie
00:00.18_rene_and don't use sid if you can't handle uninstallable packages
00:00.24TTimoI'm too happy to care
00:00.37TTimoyou're on ignore now btw
00:02.33_rene_can someone please tell him that I do help him and don't want to offend him?
00:02.48_rene_it's the truth that people who are newbies and can't handle sid should not use sid
00:03.13_rene_and it was obviously non-true that something else than ctrl-alt-fX works on i386
00:04.03_rene_there *will* be breakage in sid which *is* intended at least temprarily and the only way there is wait..
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01:57.31Daikakanyone awake in here?
02:00.29Daikaki'll take that as a no
02:10.40SimonRavenyeh...
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07:48.45palmierisomebody can help me  with a cinelerra in ubuntu powerpc?
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12:00.45LCtrackpad doesn't work at all on the new ibook 2005, could someone help?
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16:06.54Bor_Eddoes the preemp work already on 2.6.13rc ?
16:07.27SimonRaven*shrug*
16:07.43Curaltonpreemp still flunky even a year later?
16:07.49Bor_Ed"kexec is a system call that implements the ability to shutdown your     x
16:07.50Bor_Ed<PROTECTED>
16:07.52Bor_Edwee
16:08.02Bor_Edpreemp crashed randomly at least on 2.6.9
16:08.04SimonRavenfucking card fucked up again... ran fontforge and x crashed, taking the framebuffer with it... *SIGH*
16:08.23SimonRavenpreempt has never run well for me
16:08.34Bor_Edgot to try it now
16:08.54CuraltonBor_Ed: but afaik userland must go down too, its to get rid of the overlong POSTing of x86 systems
16:09.05Bor_Edohh
16:09.13Bor_Edwell I'll leave it disabled then
16:09.46Bor_Edpreemp options have been upgraded on this one...
16:09.51Curaltondunno if they are so far that the new kernel can takeover drivers etc.
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16:10.05Curaltonuids, filehandles etc.
16:10.09Curaltonpretty nasty
16:10.16Bor_Edyea
16:10.21Curaltonpids
16:11.03LChow can i make the new ibook trackpad works guys? it doesn't move at all
16:11.30Bor_Edtry to set it up as imps2 mouse
16:11.57LCBor_Ed: unfortunately it seems to be an usb device
16:12.14Bor_Edouch
16:12.21LCBor_Ed: i saw some patches around but i'm ooking for a precompiled kernel including it
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16:12.38Bor_Edubuntu built kernel might have it
16:13.02LCmay be
16:13.42LCthis is not a major issue yet sinec the new i book on linux are not so spread i think
16:13.48LC*since
16:15.34Bor_Edcompile running on the buggr... and with gcc4 :)
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16:57.04Bor_Edbuggr compile puked on power management
17:01.13pahartikLC: someone added new iBook G4 USB trackpad device ID to PowerBook G4 USB trackpad driver and it supposedly worked...
17:01.55pahartikLC: ...some days ago on this channel...
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17:42.53LCthanks pahartik
17:43.22LCpahartik: i'm looking into that
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18:01.25iOopswho use eclipse ?
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19:27.13albeiroiii/win 17
19:27.43albeirohello, about to join to debian-ppc community
19:27.58albeirodownloading netinst iso now. (sorry for that lags effect ;)
19:28.42albeiroafter trying gentoo (quality cusks ) and yellowdog (impossible bugy instalation) i am back into debian and hope i won't regret it
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20:17.05im_kahi
20:18.25im_kai just bought an imac g3 on ebay and maybe i don't wanna buy ram to upgrade to panther... so linux and debian come into picture. are there any major differences in using debian on ppc than on i386?
20:20.35Bor_Edboot loader is different, there's no flash nor java plugins but otherwise it's pretty much the same
20:22.03im_kaerr... java would be kinda important. i can live w/o flash. i guess it's a general ppc linux thing and not specifically debian
20:22.04im_ka?
20:22.35Bor_Edyea... java runtime is available but browser plugins not
20:22.45im_kai see
20:23.01im_kamy dumb netbanking thing needs java
20:23.27Bor_Edyou can always run mol too (google for mac on linux)
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20:24.10im_kalooks interesting
20:24.44im_kathe problem is that it's only got 192 mb ram, and afaik panther needs more to run nicely. i might stay with 9.1 and dual boot
20:27.41Bor_EdI wouldn't run any osx at under 256... though I have 160M ram now on this beige g3, run xfce as desktop and basiliskII for the sites that don't work with linux
20:28.15im_kahttp://www.maconlinux.org/sshots/pic10.jpg is one great pic
20:29.18Bor_Edwell, just tells what the app is capable of
20:29.32Bor_EdI'd run winhoser inside qemu though
20:32.08im_kahow much does os 9.1 suck? like some old gnome?
20:33.17Bor_EdI have os 9.1 to boot linux up on this box... it's usable but I prefer linux
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20:47.20im_kathanks for the tips
20:48.29Bor_Edno problemo
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20:51.08mmahow can I find out the CPU clock speed of a MPC8241? /proc/cpuinfo only displays Bogomips...
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22:09.42p8r_hi dear fellows, i just stumbled across a problem compiling and inserting manually compiled alsa modules(1.0.9b)  for a 2.6.11.5 kernel. As i try to load the snd-powermac module i get an error (dmesg): "Unknown symbol macio_find" Any ideas? I had the same kernel already running with older alsa drivers.
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