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| 14:22.31 | *** topic/#debianppc is Debian on PPC - think of it as a never-ending IQ test. | Want Linux 2.6? Use kernel.org or sid/sarge kernel-images; DON'T USE BENH 2.6 RSYNC | current release: 2.6.13 | Wiki at tinyurl.com/2r8uc | Sarge released: 2005-06-06 | pasting? /whois paster | ALSA bounty: http://tinyurl.com/b44ls |
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| 14:43.35 | ibmfool | does anyone have experience installing deb on rs6k? |
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| 16:52.07 | SimonRaven | CunningPike: last time i tell you this, turn that script off |
| 16:53.45 | CunningPike | ??? |
| 16:53.50 | Bor_Ed | mmmm |
| 16:54.11 | CunningPike | Explain, please - this is the first time you have told me anything |
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| 16:55.59 | CunningPike | Hello? |
| 16:56.15 | Bor_Ed | he means the idiotic flood yer script does |
| 16:56.31 | CunningPike | What script? What flood? :S |
| 16:56.39 | Bor_Ed | * CunningPike is back [ Night Light IRC Proxy, get it at www.ircproxy.night-light.net ] |
| 16:56.47 | CunningPike | That's it? |
| 16:56.53 | Bor_Ed | ^^ flood anytime you drop connect/disconnect yer bnc |
| 16:56.59 | _rene_ | yes. and that's bogus |
| 16:57.08 | CunningPike | OK - it won't happen again |
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| 16:57.10 | _rene_ | besides the fact that public away is bogus anyway |
| 16:57.20 | Bor_Ed | yea |
| 16:57.32 | Bor_Ed | /away should be easy enough without a novell |
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| 17:14.52 | CunningPike | Is that any better? |
| 17:15.15 | pahartik | CunningPike: hopefully |
| 17:15.45 | CunningPike | OK - let me quit and come back and see........ |
| 17:15.50 | CunningPike | biab |
| 17:16.17 | CunningPike | Howzat? |
| 17:16.44 | pahartik | CunningPike: i did not notice any problem |
| 17:17.09 | CunningPike | OK - great. Thanks - and apologies. I'm an IRC noob and had no idea it was doing this |
| 17:19.34 | pahartik | CunningPike: i did have script for auto-away thing after ~10 minutes, back when i used ircII some 5 years ago :) |
| 17:19.44 | CunningPike | Hee hee |
| 17:20.08 | CunningPike | I guess it's part of the default settings of the ircproxy thingy |
| 17:20.54 | CunningPike | Anyway, I think it's sorted now |
| 17:41.28 | SimonRaven | thank you CunningPike |
| 17:41.46 | CunningPike | np - apologies for the mess |
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| 19:44.07 | maxweber | hi, i try to compile firefox 1.0.6 on ppc64. it breaks in mpi/mpi_x86.s:62: Error: Unrecognized opcode: `push'.. any ppc64 specific place i should search for further info or to report it? |
| 19:45.59 | maxweber | firefox vanilla |
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| 19:52.54 | grendelll | I'm using the current debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso for installation, and the installer seems to be messed up. |
| 19:53.02 | grendelll | That, or more likely, I've done something wrong. |
| 19:55.29 | grendelll | Is anyone around that could possibly point me in the right direction, or that has some suggestions for installing on a 12" AlBook G4 |
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| 20:11.11 | SimonRaven | maxand what's wrong with using the 32bit built one? |
| 20:11.14 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 20:11.53 | SimonRaven | grendelll: should be working. without details we can't help |
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| 20:22.39 | _rene_ | grendelll: yes, testing and sid are currently uninstallable |
| 20:22.43 | _rene_ | grendelll: use sarge |
| 20:24.41 | grendelll | Oh, okay. |
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| 20:25.38 | grendelll | Sorry to ask another semi/major newb question, but where can I find a Sarge installer for PPC? |
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| 20:26.46 | grxmrx | hello |
| 20:26.52 | grendelll | Nevermind, found it. |
| 20:26.55 | SimonRaven | oh, i saw sarge for some reason. sorry |
| 20:27.34 | grendelll | I'll only really need like the first CD, right? |
| 20:27.42 | grendelll | No point in snagging 2-7, since I can just apt-get theM? |
| 20:27.50 | grendelll | or apt-get packages as I need them |
| 20:28.14 | grendelll | OR, different possibility, just download both of the dvd ISOs overnight. |
| 20:29.31 | SimonRaven | yes. 1 is fine |
| 20:30.14 | grxmrx | I have installed debian powerpc on my pegasos2 and after boot it just hangs at "Returning 0x0001000 from prom_init", I had debian installed before on this machine so I think it's not connected with hardware problem (because configuration was not changed recently), more info - gfx card: radeon9250, 128 bit, 128 MB DDR |
| 20:30.43 | grxmrx | have you any idea what is wrong with it and how could I fix this problem? |
| 20:31.25 | SimonRaven | what kernel did you install? |
| 20:31.32 | grxmrx | 2.6.8 |
| 20:31.53 | SimonRaven | and sub-arch? |
| 20:31.55 | grxmrx | powerpc of course, also tried with 2.6.10-powerpc when installing ubuntu |
| 20:32.03 | grxmrx | but it fails in the same way |
| 20:32.16 | SimonRaven | aren't those supposed to use -chrp images? |
| 20:33.32 | grxmrx | I can tell you that I have used vmlinuz-chrp.initrd to install debian on my machine, I'm rather newbie in the linux world (using it for some apps, so my knowledge is poor) |
| 20:33.57 | SimonRaven | so you install the same kind of kernels |
| 20:34.47 | SimonRaven | newbie != not using your head |
| 20:35.04 | grxmrx | :) |
| 20:35.23 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 20:36.09 | grxmrx | well, I tried to boot ubuntu, now debian with some ways, other firmware boot commands, etc. |
| 20:36.28 | grxmrx | but the effect was the same all the time |
| 20:37.46 | SimonRaven | hmm |
| 20:39.30 | SimonRaven | seems for the images you fetch from a mirror is just -powerpc and -powerpc-smp |
| 20:40.32 | SimonRaven | must be something else then |
| 20:41.01 | SimonRaven | ask on the mailing list (debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org) |
| 20:45.41 | grxmrx | ok, I'll ask... |
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| 20:58.56 | Patrick` | I tried compiling my own kernel again, and it mostly worked, except that now I get the (d)message "dmasound: can't request IO resource !" when trying to modprobe dmasound_pmac |
| 20:59.14 | Patrick` | google suggests switching to 2.6 which isn't an option due to obscure pci hardware |
| 20:59.17 | SimonRaven | load snd-powermac instead |
| 20:59.24 | SimonRaven | forget about dmasound* |
| 21:01.21 | Patrick` | where would it be in menuconfig? |
| 21:02.03 | SimonRaven | same place wher you found the oss driver, but under Advanced Linux Sound Architecture |
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| 21:02.21 | Patrick` | I thought alsa had been deprecated? |
| 21:02.31 | Patrick` | anyway, the dma modules used to work with a distro default kernel |
| 21:02.47 | Patrick` | (there's only an oss section here, not alsa) |
| 21:02.54 | Patrick` | (2.4.31 vanilla) |
| 21:03.13 | SimonRaven | uh, no. OSS is |
| 21:03.33 | SimonRaven | 2.6 has it native. 2.4 doesn't. |
| 21:03.38 | Patrick` | ah. |
| 21:03.48 | Patrick` | so it's just called "sound" then? |
| 21:04.01 | Patrick` | there's no mention of the text alsa anywhere in the sound section of menuconfig |
| 21:04.31 | SimonRaven | on a 2.4 menuconfig you won't see it unless you patch the kernel |
| 21:04.41 | Patrick` | ah. |
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| 21:04.54 | Patrick` | brilliant. |
| 21:05.15 | Patrick` | the reason I compiled one myself is because debian seem to have stopped doing kernel work from 2.4.27 |
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| 21:05.25 | SimonRaven | i thought you had a 2.6 source tree there, sorry 'bout that |
| 21:05.26 | Patrick` | so there'll be no distro-specific patches for it |
| 21:05.33 | Patrick` | no, quite all right |
| 21:05.42 | Patrick` | I have a 2.6 source tree here but I'd rather not resort to it |
| 21:05.48 | SimonRaven | yeh, it's going to be phased out |
| 21:05.54 | SimonRaven | (2.4) |
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| 21:06.07 | Patrick` | if I got <whatever source tree they used to build the stock kernel> and patched it to 2.4.31, would that be likely to work? |
| 21:06.49 | SimonRaven | there's a package for the debian specific patches you might want to try. dunno if it applies cleanly to 2.4.31 |
| 21:07.50 | Patrick` | or I could just stick to 2.4.27 and just rebuild the debian tree |
| 21:07.53 | Patrick` | make it a bit cleaner |
| 21:08.04 | SimonRaven | up to you ;) |
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| 21:11.03 | Patrick` | failed, ho hum |
| 21:11.26 | Patrick` | so, given that the dma modules worked before, is it likely to have been a debian patch that made it work? |
| 21:14.05 | Patrick` | I don't think there was even a good reason to leave 2.4.27 in the first place |
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| 21:14.30 | SimonRaven | it's a pretty buggy driver. benh and the others try to make to work ok, but i gave up and had started using alsa |
| 21:14.51 | SimonRaven | with the alsa patch the sound was exactly what i was getting in mock os |
| 21:15.00 | SimonRaven | (and better) |
| 21:16.48 | Patrick` | so, one last thing |
| 21:17.04 | Patrick` | will there be much of a performance increase using hand-tweaked over precompiled? |
| 21:17.24 | Patrick` | as in, noticeable amounts (like the difference between 2.2 and 2.4) not tiny bits like 5% |
| 21:17.50 | SimonRaven | no, just driver space from less modules being built |
| 21:17.55 | SimonRaven | drive* |
| 21:18.04 | SimonRaven | there will be if you switch to 2.6 |
| 21:18.22 | SimonRaven | esp if you use one of the non-default elevators (schedulers) |
| 21:18.59 | Patrick` | I really should have kept this box at sarge when it stabilised |
| 21:19.15 | Patrick` | it's an always-on server and the main reason to use testing went away when it froze |
| 21:19.21 | Patrick` | time for some downgrade ful |
| 21:19.23 | Patrick` | *fun |
| 21:22.36 | SimonRaven | heh |
| 21:23.03 | Patrick` | but then, there'd be no weekly apt-get update to keep me amused |
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