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| 06:53.42 | AndrewLee | Does anyone tested vserver on PPC? |
| 07:01.06 | SimonRaven | not me |
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| 11:20.00 | SimonRaven | http://www.dataretentionisnosolution.com/ |
| 12:10.41 | svenl | hi all. |
| 12:10.59 | svenl | does anyone know off-hand how to emulate the other mouse buttons ? |
| 12:11.10 | svenl | on a owerbook ? |
| 12:12.03 | pahartik | svenl: "sysctl -a | grep mouse_button" |
| 12:12.03 | svenl | i tried the ubuntu live-cd, and they had the middle and ight button mapped to fn+F11/F12, but this doesn't seem to be a pbbuttonsd feature, how is it done then ? |
| 12:13.13 | SimonRaven | through sysctl |
| 12:13.24 | svenl | mmm, that got me 100 and 97. |
| 12:13.51 | svenl | SimonRaven: what is the tool again to map keystrokes to key numbers ? |
| 12:14.00 | SimonRaven | showkey |
| 12:14.12 | SimonRaven | /msg ravenbird tell me about 3 buttons |
| 12:14.47 | pahartik | svenl: i have been told that default is to click mouse button with <Control> or <Option> |
| 12:15.28 | svenl | arg, how you go out of showkey ? |
| 12:16.46 | SimonRaven | let it time out, like the text says... |
| 12:17.03 | svenl | he, it scrolls away fast, didn't have time to read. |
| 12:17.25 | SimonRaven | you stuck on 80x40 or something? ;p |
| 12:19.15 | svenl | he. |
| 12:19.30 | svenl | mmm, having mouse_button_emulation to 0 probablydisables it, right? |
| 12:19.51 | pahartik | svenl: yes |
| 12:20.09 | svenl | mmm. |
| 12:20.14 | svenl | so, i need ot find : |
| 12:20.19 | svenl | 1) how to enable it. |
| 12:20.27 | SimonRaven | set it to 1 |
| 12:20.30 | svenl | 2) how to chose the keys i want for mouse buttons. |
| 12:20.33 | SimonRaven | sysctl -w |
| 12:20.34 | svenl | SimonRaven: :) |
| 12:20.57 | SimonRaven | or good ol' fashioned echo |
| 12:21.11 | svenl | SimonRaven: yeah. |
| 12:25.24 | pahartik | SimonRaven: are my messages filtered by server? |
| 12:25.42 | SimonRaven | no, i see them |
| 12:26.28 | pahartik | SimonRaven: very good, thank you |
| 12:26.33 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 12:28.32 | svenl | mmm /etc/sysctl.conf is probably the way to go. |
| 12:30.06 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 12:34.38 | svenl | Mmm, ubuntu uses 87 and 88 (F11/F12), but the default is 97 and 100. |
| 12:34.47 | svenl | didn't find who whse 97 and 100 are. |
| 12:35.23 | svenl | why does michael speak about :old kernel button emulation ? |
| 12:35.39 | SimonRaven | F10 and F9 IIRC |
| 12:35.49 | SimonRaven | in order, F9 and 10 |
| 12:36.45 | svenl | 97 is F9 ? |
| 12:37.37 | svenl | F9 matches as 0x43, not 97. |
| 12:38.22 | SimonRaven | it's displaying them as hex, not decimal |
| 12:38.52 | svenl | hex 43 is 67 though, not 97. |
| 12:39.06 | SimonRaven | er, could be wrong there, tired. probably in octal |
| 12:42.49 | SimonRaven | ok, -s --scancodes In this mode, showkey prints in hexadecimal format each byte received from the keyboard to the standard output. # the default changed it seems, since it's printing in hex |
| 12:43.06 | SimonRaven | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.37 | svenl | mmm, sound does not work out of hand. |
| 12:49.36 | SimonRaven | no, it's supposed to work in hand, silly ;p |
| 12:50.04 | svenl | :) |
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| 13:20.43 | svenl | Mmm, no wonder there was no soung, alsa got removed by aptitude, or never installed in the first place. |
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| 14:15.50 | lobezno | hi |
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| 15:48.42 | onzi | debian work well with imac g3 350 mhz? |
| 15:51.14 | pahartik | onzi: yes |
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| 16:00.49 | simo | is there any place I can gather info on installing debian sarge on an Xserve G5 with Xserve RAID and Apple Fiber Channel card? |
| 16:01.02 | simo | or does anybody here have experience on such a system ? |
| 16:02.32 | Stereo | I'm not even sure the raid card is supported |
| 16:02.48 | simo | uhmm I saw reports of the card being supported on x86 ... |
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| 16:07.34 | Turgon | Hi |
| 16:07.52 | Turgon | Anyone using Debian on power5? |
| 16:08.32 | Turgon | Or asked in another way, does anyone know where I could find Sven Luther's d-i images for powerpc64? |
| 16:09.00 | Turgon | (http://people.debian.org/~luther/ppc64/d-i says "Forbidden") |
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| 17:00.57 | svenl | Turgon: ppc64 stuff is no more needed, as the biarch toolchain and 64bit kernel got integrated into sid. |
| 17:01.08 | svenl | Turgon: so http://people.debian.org/~luther/sid/d-i has it. |
| 17:01.13 | svenl | will add a symlink. |
| 17:01.20 | Turgon | svenl: ah, ok, thanks a lot |
| 17:01.36 | Turgon | svenl: though that link does not work :-/ |
| 17:01.46 | svenl | d-i/sid maybe :) |
| 17:02.20 | svenl | http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/sid |
| 17:03.56 | Turgon | Oh |
| 17:04.04 | Turgon | Yes, that works better ;-) |
| 17:04.29 | svenl | Turgon: i think it was d-i/ppc64 in the first place anyway. |
| 17:04.42 | Turgon | svenl: there are no ISO images at the moment, right? |
| 17:04.47 | svenl | Turgon: that said, etch and sid installs seems somewhat broken right no. |
| 17:04.55 | Turgon | Hmmmm |
| 17:05.04 | svenl | Turgon: nope, debian-cd is not fixed for ppc64 stuff, but you can netboot them. |
| 17:05.31 | Turgon | svenl: ok, how do I use those files? I know how to netboot a file, not a kernel + an initrd O:-) |
| 17:05.32 | svenl | well, maybe they will work for you, i only tried on my powerbook, base-installer hanged at 69% |
| 17:05.44 | svenl | Turgon: netboot yaboot, and use : |
| 17:06.02 | svenl | $ more /tftpboot/yaboot.conf |
| 17:06.02 | svenl | device=enet: |
| 17:06.02 | svenl | partition=0 |
| 17:06.02 | svenl | timeout=50 |
| 17:06.02 | svenl | init-message="Debian GNU/Linux Network boot" |
| 17:06.04 | svenl | default=sid |
| 17:06.06 | svenl | image=sarge/vmlinux |
| 17:06.09 | svenl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.11 | svenl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.14 | svenl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.16 | svenl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.19 | svenl | image=sid/vmlinux |
| 17:06.21 | svenl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.24 | svenl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.26 | svenl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.29 | svenl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.31 | svenl | image=sid/vmlinux |
| 17:06.34 | svenl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.36 | svenl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.39 | svenl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.41 | svenl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.44 | svenl | you need to setup the tftp server accordyingly, and dhcpd, and boot with : |
| 17:06.47 | svenl | boot enet:0, |
| 17:06.49 | svenl | boot enet:0,\yaboot |
| 17:08.15 | Turgon | Cutting & pasting ... |
| 17:09.08 | Turgon | Ok, thanks |
| 17:09.11 | Turgon | Will try :-) |
| 17:12.20 | svenl | i did an install with this just two days ago, so it works. |
| 17:12.47 | svenl | Turgon: if the sid d-i images don't work, install using the sarge one and the power4 target, and then upgrade to sid. |
| 17:12.48 | AndrewLee | Does anyone know how to make option + mouse-click = middle button, and ctrl + mouse-click = right button as well? |
| 17:13.02 | Turgon | svenl: ok |
| 17:15.53 | svenl | AndrewLee: nope, mybe this mouseemu thingy will help you ? |
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| 17:21.55 | AndrewLee | svenl: I've tried mouseemu, but it made my Xorg doesn't work. |
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| 17:38.42 | svenl | AndrewLee: ah. |
| 17:39.03 | svenl | AndrewLee: did you file a bug report ? |
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| 18:49.35 | sparc-kly | anyone run debian in G3 400mhz ? |
| 18:51.33 | Bor_Ed | g3/315 here |
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| 18:53.29 | zwox | hello everybody |
| 18:53.37 | zwox | i've just buy a new powerbook G4 |
| 18:53.50 | zwox | and i've installed debian unstable |
| 18:53.58 | zwox | but i've done error |
| 18:54.04 | zwox | so i will do it again |
| 18:54.17 | zwox | but some questions : |
| 18:54.43 | zwox | can someone tell me how to use air port wifi ? |
| 18:54.58 | zwox | i suppose that i need a new kernel |
| 18:55.02 | zwox | but what to do with ? |
| 18:56.15 | Bor_Ed | airport extreme is a no go, period |
| 18:56.57 | zwox | oh |
| 18:57.00 | zwox | ok thanks |
| 18:57.29 | Bor_Ed | get some usb/pcmcia wifi adapter that's supported (www.prism54.org for some info) |
| 18:57.54 | zwox | thanks |
| 18:58.01 | Bor_Ed | no prob |
| 18:58.53 | zwox | so i will do that |
| 18:59.02 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 18:59.12 | zwox | do you think air port extrem would become available with debian ? |
| 18:59.34 | Bor_Ed | most probably not... there is project going on to reverse-engineer the driver though |
| 18:59.45 | zwox | ok thanks |
| 19:00.32 | Bor_Ed | if the buggr gets to working status, it'll mean some hard times to us govt (the chip specs have some military range functions afaik) |
| 19:01.31 | zwox | so i would have to build the moduleby myself looooooooool |
| 19:02.37 | Bor_Ed | if you can reverse-engineer the osx or win32 module, yea |
| 19:03.02 | DelTree | :))) |
| 19:03.27 | zwox | ok |
| 19:03.35 | zwox | well ! |
| 19:03.44 | zwox | i will reboot in a few minute |
| 19:03.57 | zwox | to install debian on my powerbook |
| 19:04.21 | zwox | ist it possible to get high lighted keybord with deb ? |
| 19:04.23 | Bor_Ed | lucent/orinoco wavelan silver cards have worked for ages in linux, only 11Mbps though |
| 19:04.41 | zwox | just gadget |
| 19:04.51 | zwox | but very great and beautiful |
| 19:04.52 | zwox | ;) |
| 19:04.53 | zwox | ok |
| 19:04.56 | zwox | so |
| 19:04.59 | Bor_Ed | I'd guess there's a driver for the keyboard... don't have the gear so can't say offhand |
| 19:05.03 | Q-FUNK | well prism and boradcom are both problematic |
| 19:05.13 | zwox | okay |
| 19:05.14 | ptitlouis | hmm, is there any project on sourceforge for broadcom chipset reverse-ingineering ? |
| 19:05.27 | Bor_Ed | Q-FUNK: prism has showed up some support afaik lately |
| 19:05.27 | zwox | don't know |
| 19:05.37 | zwox | well |
| 19:05.41 | zwox | reboot now |
| 19:06.05 | zwox | maybe back with deb in hour |
| 19:06.11 | zwox | see ya |
| 19:06.11 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 19:06.12 | ptitlouis | http://linux-bcom4301.sourceforge.net/go/hardware <= this one for example |
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| 19:07.39 | Q-FUNK | I would not even bother with reverse-engineering anything. not purchasing the products is the strongest message one can give to Bor_Edcom and prism. |
| 19:08.06 | Q-FUNK | oh... nice tab completion accident |
| 19:08.12 | Bor_Ed | lol |
| 19:08.14 | Bor_Ed | indeed |
| 19:08.47 | Q-FUNK | tylsyys oy |
| 19:08.52 | Bor_Ed | mmmm |
| 19:09.16 | Bor_Ed | well, I'm having a blast at work... tomorrow doing visual QC at the line for a change :P |
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| 19:15.25 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: i did just spend several moments trying to figure out why reverse-engineering Airport Extreme adapter driver would "mean some hard times to us" |
| 19:15.59 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: it has some frequency ranges enabled on the chip that are on us military reserved bands |
| 19:17.03 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: oh yes, "us" as in "US" or "United States of ..." |
| 19:17.08 | Bor_Ed | sowwy :) |
| 19:18.28 | Bor_Ed | I don't tend to capitalise anything but W that comes from there currently... don't have much credits to share |
| 19:21.33 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: your messages are getting cryptic |
| 19:21.47 | Bor_Ed | I really need some sleep, I know :) |
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| 19:27.10 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: and prolly reading several hours of "Rotary-slinger pumping lubrication system World premier, unique Honda technology (patented)" kinda material does the job too :P |
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| 19:46.06 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: how did you end up reading that? |
| 19:46.54 | SimonRaven | what is that, a vibrator? |
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| 19:48.55 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: some 4-stroke engine info googling dropped me to such site |
| 19:50.14 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: you needed motorcycle but bought scooter? |
| 19:50.47 | Bor_Ed | naa... my old scootah 'leikkas' and I didn't bother to fix it... so bought a new one |
| 19:53.10 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: also been checking for the replacement vehicle at http://www.glanspower.fi/tuote/gocart-maantieFH11001.html :D |
| 19:56.14 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: damn that vehicle |
| 19:56.26 | Bor_Ed | you tell me :) |
| 19:56.53 | Bor_Ed | I only have qing qi qm50qt-6a currently though (google) |
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| 19:59.56 | MrNikel | I have a problem with apache2. I uploades and got segfault |
| 20:00.02 | MrNikel | updated |
| 20:00.19 | MrNikel | Any idea on how to get the previous revision? |
| 20:01.10 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: well, i have been attracted by http://workspace1.smilehouse.com/workspace.client/SSE/helkama/?file=page&pageID=9&pid=1548 |
| 20:03.29 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: it won't work at under ~18C temps... li-ion 'freezes' around that |
| 20:03.44 | Bor_Ed | li-po would go a bit under that though |
| 20:05.05 | Bor_Ed | http://www.qingqi.com.cn/ebusiness/en/product_detail.asp?catalogid=2&productid=307 <<-- my current ride, though I've tuned the CVT a bit for better acceleration |
| 20:05.11 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: well, my bicycle season is over already... i decided that about 6 days ago and bought 90 day bus ticket |
| 20:05.23 | rcy | bicycle season never ends! |
| 20:06.01 | Bor_Ed | here buses run worse than bicycles so I've used scooter for commuting for ~18 months now |
| 20:06.44 | Bor_Ed | 15km(9.5miles)/way currently for me 5 days/week |
| 20:07.19 | rcy | Bor_Ed: where do you live? |
| 20:07.27 | pahartik | MrNikel: did you use "reportbug" on it already? |
| 20:07.43 | Bor_Ed | rcy: way up north on same timezone as you are |
| 20:08.35 | MrNikel | How can I downgrade my bike? I have an apache2 brand new bike, but is currently broken. When I try to ride it it just crashes. Any idea on how can I get the last bike I had from the apt-bike repository? |
| 20:08.50 | Bor_Ed | lol |
| 20:09.13 | Bor_Ed | MrNikel: wget your old tires and install them manually |
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| 20:09.31 | Bor_Ed | MrNikel: wget your old tires and install them manually |
| 20:09.35 | MrNikel | my gaim bike is not working propertly either |
| 20:09.50 | MrNikel | But on debian page, the last revision they have is -5 |
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| 20:10.21 | MrNikel | the same on every branch |
| 20:10.31 | Bor_Ed | sounds like sid on relatively new debian user... are you sure you didn't pick up too big ccm bike to start with ? I'd recommend sarge ccm range more comfortable |
| 20:10.39 | pahartik | MrNikel: it seems to be only version available right now |
| 20:11.31 | MrNikel | :( |
| 20:11.59 | MrNikel | So I need to ./configure-make-make_install it |
| 20:12.10 | MrNikel | or wait. |
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| 20:18.39 | pahartik | MrNikel: actually "apache2 2.0.54-4" is probably still available at Debian archive sarge mirrors, but has got some vulnerabilities: http://www.nl.debian.org/security/2005/dsa-805 |
| 20:20.34 | MrNikel | I prefer to have it for awhile with vulnerabilities |
| 20:20.38 | SimonRaven | mod_ssl in -5 is borked |
| 20:20.55 | MrNikel | next time I will back up /var/cache/apt/archives before an upgrade |
| 20:21.05 | SimonRaven | deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool apache2 |
| 20:21.05 | SimonRaven | deb-src http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool apache2 |
| 20:21.11 | SimonRaven | will get you -4 |
| 20:21.12 | pahartik | MrNikel: "/debian/pool/main/a/apache2/"... |
| 20:26.04 | MrNikel | Configurando apache2-mpm-prefork (2.0.54-3) ... |
| 20:26.04 | MrNikel | Starting web server: Apache2/usr/sbin/apache2ctl: line 78: 32237 Segmentation fault $HTTPD -k start -DSSL |
| 20:26.11 | MrNikel | The same, I will try 2.0.53 |
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| 20:39.10 | SimonRaven | MrNikel: mod_perl is making it segfault |
| 20:39.19 | SimonRaven | MrNikel: i filed a bug on it last night |
| 20:42.00 | sparc-kly | Bord_ed |
| 20:42.08 | sparc-kly | Bor_ed |
| 20:42.45 | sparc-kly | you run Linux in G3 315mhz? what window manager you use? |
| 20:42.55 | MrNikel | Thanks Simon |
| 20:43.20 | MrNikel | I was purgin mod_svn now to see it it was that (also the php module) I lack the one. |
| 20:43.45 | rcy | i just installed debian on my imac. the framebuffer display cuts off the first column of characters. is there a utility to adjust that video mode? |
| 20:45.35 | MrNikel | HEY! It worked! thanks Simon I don even know what did I have it installed (no application required it) |
| 20:48.34 | SimonRaven | mod_perl is very useful for perl based sites. though strangely my wiki runs a tad faster without it... |
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| 20:48.49 | SimonRaven | i must've tweaked too much ;) |
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| 21:12.51 | MrNikel | Oh now, now php4-mysql seems not to work |
| 21:13.45 | MrNikel | I wont upgrade when I am not sure if it will work well.... 100 times ;( |
| 21:23.36 | MrNikel | I hate PHP! |
| 21:24.43 | pahartik | MrNikel: damn that language |
| 21:25.21 | MrNikel | hate? Is just a feeling. and I do. |
| 21:30.38 | pahartik | MrNikel: Python is good |
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| 22:14.13 | SimonRaven | i dislike php too... alas many projects think it's the way to go for web stuff... |
| 22:24.51 | MrNikel | Ruby is better and rails is amazing pahartik (in my opinion). |
| 22:25.27 | SimonRaven | too bad the modules for ruby are still rather sparse... |
| 22:25.39 | MrNikel | modules for what for example? |
| 22:26.07 | MrNikel | I has support for many things, more than PHP of course. |
| 22:26.37 | SimonRaven | selection isn't as great (as in numbers) as say python or perl. the ldap one - tried playing with it - is a bit pokey too :/. |
| 22:27.29 | MrNikel | I have used it succesfully. Im connecting with an Mocosoft ActiveDirectory with no problems using ruby-ldap tough i just make queries. |
| 22:28.46 | MrNikel | And rails is amazing. Im migrating to that, dont want to write another php line of code. |
| 22:29.23 | SimonRaven | i need output from those queries, for later formatting. i tried all kinds of weird and not weird things to get it to do what i needed. i gave up in frustration |
| 22:29.42 | SimonRaven | yeh. at least it doesn't have php's security history... |
| 22:38.08 | MrNikel | Well, have to go. Have fun, and thanks for all. I have now my apache2 with my php working and svn and mantis and mysql and... To much work because of an upgrade. I think I will install important services in a sarge chroot machine. |
| 22:38.24 | SimonRaven | np. have fun |
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