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| 00:39.35 | ZeUS | on my hx4700 HP is it possible to run linux on a SD card or someother way and to be safe ? |
| 00:41.50 | Buddha| | ZeUS- It is possible to run some Linux distros from a USB flash drive |
| 00:42.28 | ZeUS | on my pda ? |
| 00:43.43 | Buddha| | Oh. I didn't know that was a pda. There are projects to run Linux on pdas. I don't know the name of any off hand, though. |
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| 08:01.12 | svenl | hi all. |
| 08:01.17 | svenl | hi niktaris |
| 08:01.27 | niktaris | hey svenl |
| 08:01.35 | niktaris | long time... |
| 08:02.14 | svenl | has anyone here experience with 2.6.x (x>12) oldworld configs and miboot floppies ? |
| 08:02.30 | svenl | my best try was : -rwxr-xr-x 1 sven sven 1456889 2005-09-21 09:25 vmlinux.gz |
| 08:02.41 | svenl | which is still 150KB or so too big. |
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| 09:03.33 | Q-FUNK | re |
| 09:04.05 | Q-FUNK | it seems that there are some real trolls lurking on the ALSA/PPC bug reports: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=306 |
| 09:04.13 | Q-FUNK | (use Guest login to view) |
| 09:07.38 | johill | ? |
| 09:08.39 | johill | btw. I can give you the data for the new powerbook |
| 09:08.58 | Q-FUNK | a guy there asking if it's OK to close the report, despite evidence that there's still loads of stuff not yet working. |
| 09:09.08 | Q-FUNK | ok, shoot |
| 09:09.10 | Q-FUNK | let's add it |
| 09:09.23 | johill | yeah that's one of the developers tho |
| 09:09.33 | johill | G4 PowerBook 5,6 |
| 09:10.47 | johill | yes/yes/yes/?/na/yes/yes |
| 09:11.46 | johill | where do I get the chipset? I know I've seen it before, but.. |
| 09:12.01 | johill | Snapper |
| 09:12.01 | Q-FUNK | check in /proc/asound |
| 09:12.47 | johill | I don't think I have any cd stuff, but let me check |
| 09:13.30 | Q-FUNK | and what's your exact model? |
| 09:13.41 | Q-FUNK | is that a PB or a silver G¤ or...? |
| 09:14.14 | johill | latest |
| 09:14.30 | johill | iow. alu post-february-2005 |
| 09:14.32 | Q-FUNK | latest PB? |
| 09:14.38 | Q-FUNK | ah ok |
| 09:14.55 | Q-FUNK | reload |
| 09:15.00 | Q-FUNK | is that info ok? |
| 09:15.29 | johill | yeah. I'm not sure what the cd means |
| 09:15.35 | johill | I can play back cds with gnome-cd |
| 09:15.47 | Q-FUNK | that you get the CD sound and that the volume for it works. |
| 09:16.21 | johill | there's no extra volume control for it |
| 09:17.27 | Q-FUNK | well, Ok, as long as it works, that's what matters. |
| 09:17.43 | johill | hm. don't think so actually |
| 09:17.52 | johill | does gnome-cd play digitally? |
| 09:18.05 | johill | the cdplay command from the cdtool package works, but no sound comes out |
| 09:18.55 | johill | gnome-cd seems to play digitally |
| 09:20.02 | johill | so make that a no |
| 09:21.05 | johill | and maybe add a note that suspending doesn't work, not even with alsactl restore or anything |
| 09:23.56 | Q-FUNK | johill: if it's the gnome-cd (>= 2.10), then yes, it uses digital sound extraction, not the real analog cd audio. try gnome-media 2.8 for a real test. |
| 09:24.52 | johill | I tried cdplay from the cdtool package, I know that doesn't use digital extraction, and no sound comes out :) |
| 09:25.20 | Q-FUNK | ok :) |
| 09:28.31 | Q-FUNK | johill: on which kernel are you now? |
| 09:28.38 | johill | 2.6.13 |
| 09:29.21 | Q-FUNK | there |
| 09:30.08 | johill | heh. remove that iow. ;) |
| 09:30.43 | johill | and maybe add that after suspend, sound is dead |
| 09:30.46 | johill | I have to go |
| 09:31.30 | Q-FUNK | ah yes |
| 09:31.50 | pahartik | johill: what if you remove audio modules before "suspend" and then load them again after it? |
| 09:32.16 | johill | pahartik: probably works, I usually reload the module after resume |
| 09:32.32 | johill | I can't really automate it since I don't want to kill all apps |
| 09:33.11 | pahartik | johill: ...that keep audio output device open? |
| 09:33.28 | johill | yeah, of course |
| 09:38.18 | johill | bbl |
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| 11:37.06 | Q-FUNK | Bor_Ed: sorry, which kernel do you use with your biege G3? |
| 11:37.48 | Q-FUNK | http://wiki.debian.net/?PowerpcSoundcards |
| 11:38.05 | Q-FUNK | we need to determine the exact ALSA version people are using with their report. |
| 12:01.08 | svenl | Hi Q-FUNK |
| 12:01.24 | Q-FUNK | hi sven |
| 12:01.27 | svenl | anyone with an oldworld willing to try some 2.6.12 miboot floppies ? |
| 12:02.02 | svenl | not that there is network to gluck for me to upload them, but still. |
| 12:02.17 | Q-FUNK | I'm on newworld. |
| 12:03.06 | svenl | I know. |
| 12:03.21 | svenl | Q-FUNK: can you ping any of the debian hosts ? |
| 12:04.05 | Q-FUNK | svenl: debian hosts seem to be going offline at random, since a couple of days. |
| 12:04.13 | Q-FUNK | at least, the wiki host does. |
| 12:04.48 | svenl | Q-FUNK: well, i am seing the same for a couple of random hosts, so maybe there is something funny going on right now. |
| 12:05.12 | svenl | i i can't access slashdot even, but the irc connection is fine. |
| 12:07.17 | Q-FUNK | odd |
| 12:07.21 | Q-FUNK | DNS failures? |
| 12:34.09 | svenl | No. |
| 12:34.16 | svenl | most probably general network fuckup. |
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| 13:21.47 | Anthro | Can a Mac Mini boot from a Firewire drive? How about a root-on-RAID1 on a pair of FW drives? |
| 13:36.17 | demon | any newworld system after the blue&white G3 tower can boot from a firewire drive, yes... soft RAID1 across two should work as well |
| 13:36.48 | demon | obviously you'll need a newworld boot partition and a /boot filesystem that are non-RAID |
| 13:37.08 | demon | so that the system can bootstrap into yaboot and load the kernel |
| 13:37.18 | demon | but after that... it should be perfectly doable |
| 13:37.30 | Anthro | demon: Okay. Will d-i manage that for me, or do I have to play around on my own? |
| 13:37.57 | demon | not a clue :) I've never done soft RAID on a linux/ppc box, just x86 systems |
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| 15:51.30 | Curalton | is the partition manager used in the sarge installer available separately? |
| 15:52.00 | johill | that's cfdisk, isn't it? |
| 15:52.08 | johill | or wait, not for ppc |
| 15:52.23 | johill | or is it? |
| 15:52.49 | Curalton | not ppc atm :S |
| 15:53.32 | johill | I'm not sure though, I think it isn't in either case, but would have to check |
| 15:53.39 | johill | in any case, try cfdisk ;) |
| 15:53.46 | Curalton | apt knows none :S - i particulary mean the curses interface, seemed quite intuitive |
| 15:54.54 | Curalton | or am i confusing it with ubuntus one now... come to think of it never installed sarge |
| 15:55.26 | johill | util-linux contains cfdisk |
| 15:57.40 | Curalton | hmm, could be it. minus the colour |
| 15:58.21 | johill | then it probably isn't it |
| 16:01.47 | Curalton | gah, i cant believe they make such a good tool and then only put it only on the installdisk :S |
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| 16:32.53 | Curalton | what was the package/tool again to disable the touchpad if there was kb input... |
| 16:33.02 | Curalton | use the event device |
| 16:33.53 | Curalton | /dev/input/event0 .. arr, iirc the author didnt even have a website, just put up the tarball |
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| 18:33.09 | zero-1 | hello |
| 18:33.41 | zero-1 | I have a Orinoco PCMCIA wiless card is the gold one b, how can i get it to work on debian woody 3.0 r5 ??? |
| 18:35.42 | Curalton | if the chipset is supported see if the module is available |
| 18:36.05 | Curalton | but, i'd rather try installing sarge or even ubuntu and see what it's "autodetect magic" will do |
| 18:38.50 | zero-1 | it says io or irq invalid what can i do? |
| 18:40.08 | Curalton | hmm. try installing ubuntu i guess |
| 18:40.23 | Curalton | debian woody is *really* old and not at all a laptop distro by now |
| 18:40.47 | zero-1 | oh i see |
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| 22:55.21 | zero-1 | hello, Im trying to install debian on my power book g3, can somebody help me install it? |
| 22:56.41 | zero-1 | its debian 3.1 sarge\ |
| 22:58.17 | zero-1 | need help installing debian 3.1 sarge on power book g3 |
| 23:00.32 | zero-1 | need help, im trying to install debian 3.1 sarge on my powerbook g3 |
| 23:03.24 | zero-1 | how can i boot from sarge on power book g3 |
| 23:03.33 | zero-1 | do need a ramdisk? |
| 23:16.00 | pahartik | zero-1: can you boot it from CD? |
| 23:16.09 | zero-1 | no i cant |
| 23:17.23 | pahartik | zero-1: because it is OldWorld device or broken NewWorld device? |
| 23:18.08 | zero-1 | oldworld |
| 23:19.11 | pahartik | zero-1: then kernel image and ramdisk image are needed |
| 23:19.45 | zero-1 | where can i get ramdisk? |
| 23:19.58 | zero-1 | i have woody's ram disk but doesnt work on sarge |
| 23:20.40 | zero-1 | i already have bootx |
| 23:20.50 | zero-1 | cause i use to have woody |
| 23:21.13 | zero-1 | but since i was having roblems with my orinoco card the guys here suggested me to move to sarge |
| 23:21.58 | zero-1 | but i cant find sarges ramdisk |
| 23:22.09 | zero-1 | i found a file named initrd.gz |
| 23:22.24 | zero-1 | this one is suppose to be the ramdisk but it doesnt work |
| 23:22.35 | pahartik | zero-1: i can see "vmlinux" and "initrd.gz" in "/pub/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/cdrom" |
| 23:23.30 | zero-1 | ihave both of them bur it doesnt work |
| 23:23.37 | zero-1 | it says kernel panic |
| 23:23.42 | pahartik | zero-1: and folder for Linux 2.4 versions... |
| 23:24.29 | zero-1 | where should i put 2.4 folder? |
| 23:25.52 | pahartik | zero-1: one can look at "/pub/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/cdrom/2.4" |
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| 23:26.54 | zero-1 | i have the files |
| 23:27.02 | zero-1 | but still dont work it says kernel panic |
| 23:28.35 | pahartik | zero-1: usually one can figure out something from "dmesg contents" around "kernel panic" |
| 23:29.03 | zero-1 | is there a way to install it from woody? |
| 23:29.11 | zero-1 | or from network? |
| 23:31.23 | pahartik | zero-1: one option is called "upgrade" |
| 23:31.42 | zero-1 | how can i do that? |
| 23:35.11 | pahartik | zero-1: it involves editing "/etc/apt/sources.list" and using "apt-get" or "aptitude" |
| 23:35.39 | zero-1 | but can i really upgrade from woody to sarge with apt? |
| 23:36.48 | pahartik | zero-1: it should work |
| 23:38.29 | zero-1 | so how can i do it? apt-get upgrade sargr ??? |
| 23:42.52 | pahartik | zero-1: "Release Notes for Debian GNU/Linux 3.1" cover that |
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