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07:55.31Bor_Edhmm, opera is nowadays free :o
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09:29.42Bor_Edjaska: http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/453300/2697 cheapo enough ppc pc104+ board for yer r/c ?
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09:32.24saigonHi.
09:33.02Bor_Edafternoon
09:33.22saigonBor_Ed: where are you from? :)
09:33.33Bor_Edsome 100's of km up from where you ar3e
09:36.08saigonAfter the Xmas I will move some 100's km to North :)
09:37.31Bor_Edwell, I'm a bit more north that just that :)
09:37.43Bor_Ed(in scandinavia)
09:39.30saigonFinnland?
09:40.33Bor_Edyup
09:40.59saigonI'm gonna move to Norway.
09:41.14Bor_Edahh
09:41.52saigonYeah, but it still remains couple 100's :)
09:42.03Bor_Edyea, just a bit west too
09:42.36saigonIs there afternoon now?
09:42.45Bor_Edyup, almost 1pm
09:43.18saigonAhh, yeah.
09:48.06saigonDo you live in Northern or Southern Finnland?
09:48.46Bor_Edmid.. on west coast
09:50.14Bor_Edoff to buy some autumn clothing
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09:52.32saigonEnjoy :)
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10:22.40Bor_Edmmm, new coat... seems ok
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11:20.38saigonI'm gonna have a ride, see ya tomorrow :)
11:20.50Bor_EdI just had a nice ride on scooter
11:21.25saigon:-)
11:21.29saigonsee ya
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12:58.56juliuxhi
12:59.17juliuxsome body around?
13:05.27juliuxi have a pb 12" and every kernel higher than 2.6.11.11 stops booting by setup_arch:enter
13:05.34juliuxwhat can i do?
13:15.47ErRandirphew. tough. diff the source?
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13:17.29juliuxErRandir, sorry what?
13:18.56ErRandirfind out what has changed in the arch/ppc source code
13:20.11juliuxok thanks
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14:43.32mirakhi
14:43.55mirakwhat options should be used with apt-build for gcc and make on a G3 ?
14:47.21Bor_Edthe defaults
14:57.52mirakBor_Ed, there is none
14:58.12mirakso basically you gain nothing by building for g3 instead of powerpc ?
14:59.41Bor_Ednope... g4 is the first one that has something advantage over 60x build (altivec support)
15:00.16mirakreally ?
15:00.26mirakso why is it called a G3 ?
15:00.46Bor_Edyou might find something if you dig deep enough but I haven't seen anything that'd make me to compile for g3
15:01.05Bor_Edsince apple decided to market ibm750 series cpus as 'g3' :D
15:01.05mirakI installed a gentoo believing I could get some more performances, but I will put OS X instead
15:01.22mirakI have a dual boot
15:01.32Bor_Edgentoo (and osx) are both ibm601 compatible so it's the same thing
15:02.03Bor_Edaww, gentoo isn't... it requires at least 603 iirc
15:04.03mirakI have installed a gentoo on my G4
15:04.11mirakI feel it's faster
15:04.26mirakG4 350 mhz
15:04.29Bor_EdI wouldn't waste the resources of g4 to compile 24/7
15:04.54mirakwaste what ?
15:04.58Bor_Edthis g3/315 is way fast enough for me with custom built kernel and the rest is stock sid
15:05.18Bor_Edresources... gentoo 'wins' less than ~3% at best case on such setup
15:05.22Bor_EdDanamania: sheesh :P
15:05.39mirakyes but with altivec on G4 I guess you gain also
15:05.42Bor_Edmaybe uclinux enabled kernel and busybox done after some weeks :D
15:05.51mirakall I want is ti be able to play divx and dvds
15:05.55Bor_Edaltivec affects only fpu intensive apps
15:06.12Bor_Eddebian has altivec supported build of mplayer too
15:06.21mirakI don't like mplayer
15:06.21Bor_Edthough even this box runs divx videos ok
15:06.36Bor_Edno idea of vlc... it might have g4 build too
15:06.59mirakI think mplayer G4 was broken
15:07.22Bor_Edfetch the source then and compile :)
15:08.42Danamaniamake the IIci work for it's keep.
15:10.05Bor_EdI had IIci too, though it only had 8 megs o' ram so I couldn't run a/ux on it :I
15:11.15DanamaniaI think this one is 20 too - haven't had it out to use for so long I can't remember. I think the 16MB simms I have didn't fit it
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15:11.38Bor_Ed20 ??? that's easily enough for a/ux :)
15:12.12Bor_Edaww
15:12.29Bor_Edanyway, it's only decent *nix based OS from apple :P
15:12.42Danamaniait did run quite well
15:13.19Bor_EdI can imagine
15:14.33miraksi G3 400 is damn low
15:14.36mirakin fact linux is slow
15:14.45mirakgnome
15:14.58Bor_Edg3/400 ?? and this g3/315 is faster than the k6-2/500 which is wifes box :o
15:15.17Danamaniagnome is a dog on my g3/400 iMac compared to just about anything else I've tried on it.
15:15.21Danamaniaback to fluxbox I went :)
15:15.30Bor_EdI've been happy with xfce
15:15.36Q-FUNKhm
15:15.59Q-FUNKaren't people supposed to be able to edit an mp3's properties inside rhythmbox by clicking on properties for a track?
15:16.19jaskawell, gnome is bloatware, whatd you expect :)
15:16.31Bor_Edgnome is pretty badly that... same with kde
15:16.45Bor_EdI wonder how xpde would fit in
15:16.56mirakBor_Ed, I have xfce installed also
15:17.23mirakI am used to gnome. I have largely enough memory, so it's really the cpu that is slow
15:17.45Bor_EdI'd check for the prob on gfx performance before the cpu...
15:17.46jaskaon a box with a gig of ram i use ion2 in pwm mode :)
15:18.18mirakBor_Ed, the card is a rage128 .
15:18.38mirakI mean I used sometime my XP1800 with a rage128 on linux
15:18.46Bor_EdI have rage128gs on this too... and seems that it works ok
15:18.47mirakthe display is as smooth as with a radeon
15:22.24mirakdo you have mame in your pakcage list ?
15:22.39Bor_Eda sec
15:23.10Bor_Edxmame-sdl - SDL binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator
15:23.29Bor_Edseem to have
15:25.30mirakI am on ubuntu right now but I don't have it
15:25.55mirakI have xmame-common
15:26.02Bor_Edwell, that's ubuntu for you
15:26.21mirakyes
15:26.32Bor_EdFilename: pool/non-free/x/xmame/xmame-x_0.99-1_powerpc.deb <<-- the path on pool
15:28.52mirakhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/x/xmame/
15:29.04mirakthere is not ppc binaries on ubuntu
15:29.07mirakwerid
15:29.22Bor_Edthere hasn't been builder most probably
15:29.57mirakI can't get the sources either
15:29.59mirak:/
15:30.42Bor_Edjust pick the deb ver
15:31.07mirakyeah
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16:01.03Bor_Edwhat board is http://194.251.244.158/auctionimages/1/c0/b2767097da8213a191e7244fdf9b6-orig.jpg one ?
16:01.30Danamanialooks 8500ish
16:01.59Bor_Edhmm, I wonder if I should pick that up and try to drop it to the 4400 case
16:02.57Danamaniahttp://www.macgurus.com/products/motherboards/graphics/8500.gif seems to mark it out closely
16:03.19Bor_Edyup :)
16:04.20Danamaniaalthough - with all the connectors up the right hand side facing upwards, it might fit a 7500/7600 more closely.
16:04.20DanamaniaI've owned neither so can't say from experience :).
16:05.36Bor_EdI've had only 7200, 8200, some 4400's and this beige g3
16:05.46Bor_Edmaybe the next box will be newworld one :D
16:06.25Danamaniathe last is by far the most convenient with deb
16:06.36Bor_Edhehe
16:06.58pahartikBor_Ed: with dual PowerPC 970
16:07.19Bor_Edpahartik: I'd rather see mpc8451D based board :D
16:07.38Bor_Ed970fx is still a bit power hungry
16:07.51Q-FUNKlike a good politician
16:08.14Bor_EdQ-FUNK: tell me one good politician and I believe that phrase :D
16:08.38Q-FUNKa good one is "only2 a _bit_ power hungry
16:09.17Bor_Edhaven't seen such yet either... maybe the soini goes close but he's PS :/
16:11.48sloopyBor_Ed: that is a 8500/7500 mobo
16:12.09Bor_Edok
16:12.47sloopyoh and 7600 too (all the same mobo) and 7300 was 99% same just didnt have planb video stuff
16:14.11sloopyand as an aside macgurus can kiss my arse...
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16:20.10__sushi_Hello. Has anyone gotten TV-out working on a Mac Mini?
16:25.11Q-FUNKhttp://www.sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/
16:25.35Bor_Edno sour butts ? :D
16:26.42__sushi_I don't think he got TV-out working... the closest I found is http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-361255-highlight-vdr.html but they also only halfway got it working with a distorted image...
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20:43.17luksvenl: a new upload of wxwidgets2.6 would probably fix the FTBFS in http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=poedit&ver=1.3.3-5&arch=m68k&stamp=1126826023&file=log&as=raw?
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