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| 11:22.04 | hagarke | Hi all, I have a problem with my keyboard on a Powerbook |
| 11:22.14 | hagarke | I cant type all characters like # |
| 11:22.22 | hagarke | I'm using KDE 3.4 |
| 11:22.46 | hagarke | I tried setting it to Azerty (Belgium here) and Macintosh, Macintosh old, Powerbook ps/2 ... |
| 11:22.53 | hagarke | Nothing gives me all the characters |
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| 11:54.24 | niksie | Hi all |
| 11:54.38 | niksie | Any news on the broadcom front? |
| 11:55.02 | Bor_Ed | the company still sucks and the reverse-engineering still isn't complete for airport extreme chipset |
| 11:56.22 | niksie | Bah |
| 11:56.42 | niksie | Its so annoying |
| 11:56.59 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 11:57.13 | johill | no news, but you're welcome to help |
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| 11:58.39 | niksie | I'm a fairly poor programmer |
| 11:58.59 | niksie | just experimenting, really |
| 11:59.03 | niksie | I say we raid broadcom |
| 11:59.06 | johill | heh |
| 11:59.39 | niksie | They should've had a disgruntled employee by now :) |
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| 12:13.02 | Bor_Ed | hmm, console (framebuffer) gfx is all messed up but X works ok... I wonder what I have buggered now with the compile |
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| 12:15.41 | low_lo | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:16.07 | niksie | maybe I'll just get a Wireless adapter |
| 12:16.22 | Bor_Ed | you don't gain anything with faster memory since the bus can't work with its optimum speed |
| 12:16.51 | niksie | Hmmm, does linux support ibook VGA out? |
| 12:17.12 | johill | niksie: should, it works on my pb |
| 12:17.27 | Bor_Ed | could with m3mirror or xinerama |
| 12:17.30 | niksie | thanks |
| 12:17.41 | Bor_Ed | I don't have ib nor dual screen setup here :D |
| 12:17.50 | niksie | I think I'll convert an old ibook to a TV set top box |
| 12:19.00 | low_lo | Bor_Ed, thanks for the information :) |
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| 13:39.44 | boxedman | Whats the standard apple FS nowadays? HFS-journaling? is it supported by linux? |
| 13:40.25 | Curalton | reading is well supported |
| 13:40.31 | pahartik | boxedman: HFS+ |
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| 17:17.50 | AndrewLee | Does anyone here interested to reproduce this bug on your powerpc? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=328209 |
| 17:18.27 | AndrewLee | I found this bug and reported, but the maintainer closed it without actlly fix it. |
| 17:19.45 | AndrewLee | Could some DD here pay some attention or give me suggestions? |
| 17:20.33 | AndrewLee | I am really wants to help, but seems maintainer doesn't want to look after his package carefully...:( |
| 17:31.37 | witch | I cannot see, that it is closed there |
| 17:38.22 | witch | hmm... They have changed a lot in bts, but when viewing a but, it is still not possibel to see, it is closed. |
| 17:40.11 | witch | Ola applied a patch from you and closed the bug then. Was that patch not okay? |
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| 17:53.00 | AndrewLee | witch: The patch works, but seems something goes wrong in build time. |
| 17:53.44 | AndrewLee | witch: I rebuild the package from source on my powerpc can resolve the problem, now the binary from buildd is not working at all. |
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| 17:54.43 | witch | Is the package with the patch already on the pool? |
| 17:54.50 | AndrewLee | witch: Now, the patch is ok, but binary is still not working, I think Ola shouldn't close the bug so soon. |
| 17:54.56 | AndrewLee | witch: Yes. |
| 17:55.19 | AndrewLee | witch: Can you please reproduce this problem? |
| 17:55.41 | witch | no ibook with linux |
| 17:55.43 | AndrewLee | witch: it required rebuild kernel with vserver patch as well. |
| 17:56.44 | AndrewLee | witch: I wrote an email to buildd admin for request more files for inverstage |
| 17:57.08 | AndrewLee | witch: Hopefully the config.log will provide some clues. |
| 17:57.50 | AndrewLee | witch: BTW, the bug is closed but hasn't archived, so you can still read it from http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=328209 |
| 17:58.25 | AndrewLee | witch: This bug page is very long, so please be patient if you open it |
| 17:59.06 | witch | I know, I'we read it and wondered why the log was quoted completetly. ;-) |
| 17:59.55 | AndrewLee | witch: If you compare the quoted build logs with the log from buildd.d.o, you will find the syscall number is different. |
| 18:00.52 | AndrewLee | From buildd.d.o: vserver(2) syscall#: 273/default |
| 18:01.41 | AndrewLee | 273 is incorrect |
| 18:02.31 | witch | AndrewLee: I am not a DD and after reading the bug I am quite sure, I have no clue how to help |
| 18:03.01 | AndrewLee | witch: Any suggestions? |
| 18:03.37 | AndrewLee | witch: I went to #debian-devel already, but nobody interesting on ppc's bug... |
| 18:03.46 | witch | try to investigate, if the current builll log is with patch applied. |
| 18:04.36 | AndrewLee | witch: Yes, it is. But still built a wrong binary with incorrect syscall. |
| 18:04.54 | witch | Then try to reopen the bug |
| 18:04.55 | AndrewLee | witch: I guess maybe the build enviroment problems... |
| 18:05.35 | AndrewLee | witch: A DD in #debian-devel warn me don't just reopen the bug without give more investigated information... |
| 18:06.32 | witch | You might wait until one of the ppc gurus is here in the channel and ask then |
| 18:07.04 | witch | Are you able to give more infor? |
| 18:07.11 | AndrewLee | witch: I am just new to here, I don't even know who are ppc gurus in this channel. :p |
| 18:07.30 | AndrewLee | witch: What kind information do you need? |
| 18:08.23 | witch | Andrew: When they are here and answer to you, I am sure you might recognize them. ;-) |
| 18:08.48 | AndrewLee | witch: I see. |
| 18:09.11 | AndrewLee | Okay, let me telling the story here. |
| 18:10.36 | AndrewLee | I rebuild the kernel from linux-source-2.6.12 with kernel-patch-vserver on my ibook for util-vserver. |
| 18:11.31 | AndrewLee | And the I found the util-vserver doesn't work at all, and then I went to ask upstream author, he gave me the fix02 patch. |
| 18:12.04 | AndrewLee | I applied the patch and rebuild the util-vserver package myself, to confirm the patch works on my ibook. |
| 18:14.21 | AndrewLee | I downloaded the patched package from incoming.d.o, and found it still doesn't work, after inverstage I found the syscall number was wrong. |
| 18:15.39 | AndrewLee | And then I reported this problem to maintainer, but unfortunately the maintainer still closed the bug. |
| 18:19.07 | AndrewLee | You can find more details of the reports on #328209, and I just sent an email to buildd admin for request more files(eg:config.log and /usr/include/{linux,asm}) for inverstage why wrong syscall in buildd without reopen the bug yet. |
| 18:21.09 | AndrewLee | I hope some gurus here can help me and the maintainer to fix this package, thanks in advance. |
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| 18:29.52 | low_lo | Has anyone tried Transcend RAM on a Mac Mini ? Should we prefer a brand for memory upgrade ? |
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| 19:01.40 | sktrdie | ok I tried everything |
| 19:01.47 | sktrdie | my powerbook is not ableto compile a kernel |
| 19:01.48 | sktrdie | it sucks |
| 19:01.52 | sktrdie | always seg faults |
| 19:03.31 | Curalton | segfaults upon compiling? that is usually an issue of a hardwarefailure |
| 19:03.50 | sktrdie | Curalton: but my powerbook works fine :/ |
| 19:03.58 | sktrdie | itnever gave me problem |
| 19:04.33 | pahartik | sktrdie: so building other things works fine? |
| 19:04.37 | sktrdie | the hardware never gave me problems |
| 19:04.51 | sktrdie | pahartik: yea, I was using Gentoo b4 and everything worked |
| 19:04.56 | sktrdie | installed everything from source |
| 19:04.57 | sktrdie | so |
| 19:07.55 | Curalton | sktrdie: does it segfault at the same file or random when compiling? |
| 19:08.09 | mirak | hey |
| 19:08.21 | mirak | do you think a G4 350 can play a dvd ? |
| 19:08.28 | mirak | with altivec enabled |
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| 19:12.28 | sktrdie | Curalton: random |
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| 19:14.10 | Curalton | random is quite a hint at hardware :S - does dmesg say anthing while it crashes? |
| 19:14.24 | sktrdie | I havent checked |
| 19:14.26 | Curalton | or do you use some funky gcc4.2 alpha? |
| 19:14.35 | sktrdie | Curalton: might be |
| 19:14.43 | sktrdie | let me check |
| 19:15.08 | sktrdie | how do I check version? |
| 19:15.10 | sktrdie | u know? |
| 19:15.22 | johill | gcc -v? |
| 19:15.39 | sktrdie | 4.0.2\ |
| 19:15.53 | Curalton | should work fine |
| 19:16.20 | Curalton | i place my bet on hardware due to the randomness of the crashes :/ |
| 19:16.34 | sktrdie | I really dont know |
| 19:16.38 | sktrdie | I have a 512 mb |
| 19:16.40 | sktrdie | and works fine |
| 19:16.43 | sktrdie | the processor too |
| 19:16.45 | sktrdie | I dunno |
| 19:16.48 | sktrdie | maybe the graphic card |
| 19:20.27 | sktrdie | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=359414&postcount=165 |
| 19:20.32 | sktrdie | this is a sample of my error |
| 19:28.13 | MelkorD | sktrdie: Do you have enabled Preemption in kernel ? |
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| 19:28.29 | MelkorD | sktrdie: As far I know preemption cause such problems on PPC |
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| 19:39.18 | sktrdie | I dont have preemption |
| 19:40.59 | Bor_Ed | I have preempt on 2.6.13.2 and haven't noticed a single prob with that on oldworld desktop box |
| 19:41.15 | simonrvn | how long has it been up? |
| 19:41.25 | Bor_Ed | couple of weeks at max |
| 19:41.52 | Bor_Ed | I tend to shut this down nowadays when I leave the apartment :o |
| 19:42.01 | MelkorD | Bor_Ed: Works on PPC only if you have SMP enabled |
| 19:42.18 | MelkorD | Bor_Ed: If you have not ..prepare for troubles |
| 19:42.22 | Bor_Ed | MelkorD: so I could strip that aswell... got to remember on kernel upgrade |
| 19:42.23 | simonrvn | tell me when you hit 3 weeks or more. 4 days was the longest this thing was up without major SEGVs everywhere last time i tried |
| 19:42.34 | MelkorD | Bor_Ed: Sooner or later :) |
| 19:42.38 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: I had the same on older 2.6 kernels |
| 19:44.55 | MelkorD | Bor_Ed: My advice ? Forget about premption the advantages from preempt kernel are less than '0' |
| 19:45.12 | MelkorD | Bor_Ed: If you need a nice working kernel for desktop use CK patched kernel |
| 19:45.30 | MelkorD | Bor_Ed: Works MUCH better than preemption |
| 19:45.33 | Bor_Ed | MelkorD: well I tend to test out thingies as I compile new kernels... that one just happened to work on this time |
| 19:46.07 | simonrvn | i se deadline or cfq, depending |
| 19:46.11 | simonrvn | use* |
| 19:46.25 | MelkorD | Bor_Ed: Try CK. First time when I use I was realy impresed |
| 19:46.45 | Bor_Ed | this is too slow box to have any advantage on hacking :) |
| 19:46.56 | MelkorD | Bor_Ed: Define slow please |
| 19:47.00 | MelkorD | Bor_Ed: ;) |
| 19:47.10 | Bor_Ed | beige g3/233 clocked to 315 :D |
| 19:48.16 | MelkorD | Bor_Ed: Ough ... one point for you. Slow machine :) |
| 19:48.31 | Bor_Ed | toldya :P |
| 19:48.47 | Bor_Ed | I just want to experiment with the kernel switches |
| 19:50.57 | MelkorD | Bor_Ed: hehe |
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| 21:05.17 | eddyp | anybody tried sven's xorg packages? |
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| 22:00.17 | mooch | sktrdie: here |
| 22:00.20 | mooch | but not for long |
| 22:00.32 | mooch | need to get the dog for a walk, and go to bed |
| 22:02.48 | mooch | i am screened, so ping me or /msg me and i will answer later |
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