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| 02:11.17 | matias | hello !! |
| 02:11.44 | matias | Anyone heve installed debian on a IBM 7248 PPC? |
| 02:13.19 | SimonRaven | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.34 | matias | ok, thanks |
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| 06:45.12 | [MA]MTM84|X| | anyone have experience in setting a pmac 9600/200's openfirmware to display on the stock IMS twinturbo? |
| 06:46.12 | [MA]MTM84|X| | cause the one that everyone seems to use, aka "/bandit@F4000000/IMS,tt128mbA@F" doesnt work for me |
| 06:48.22 | SimonRaven | boot to linux or mock os, browse along /proc/device-tree to find it, or look in apple system profiler for the OF name (under 'devices' tab) |
| 06:50.39 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ok thanks |
| 06:57.55 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ok it sas its IMS,tt128mbA in slot B1, so what would i need to change /bandit@F4000000/IMS,tt128mbA@F to? or is it fine and something else is wrong? |
| 06:58.24 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i really need to get a new cdrom and floppy drive for this thing... |
| 07:11.40 | [MA]MTM84|X| | hmmm well /bandit@F4000000/IMS,tt128mbA@B didnt work |
| 07:14.00 | [MA]MTM84|X| | maybe my card is just bad |
| 07:14.27 | [MA]MTM84|X| | it has wonky colors at any res other then 800x600 1k colors |
| 07:19.13 | SimonRaven | that's ^^ equivalent to /bandit/IMS,tt128mbA FYI |
| 07:20.19 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ok ill try and see if that works |
| 07:20.56 | SimonRaven | nvsetenv output-device |
| 07:20.57 | SimonRaven | /bandit/ATY,XCLAIM_LTPro |
| 07:21.00 | SimonRaven | e.g. |
| 07:21.32 | {xmb} | is that bandit the hardcoded OF name.. name of the OF release? |
| 07:21.39 | {xmb} | mm yo simon |
| 07:21.43 | SimonRaven | hi |
| 07:21.55 | {xmb} | why etch when theres sid |
| 07:22.03 | SimonRaven | bandit is the PCI bus chipset name |
| 07:22.06 | [MA]MTM84|X| | bandit is the name of the |
| 07:22.09 | [MA]MTM84|X| | yeah what he said |
| 07:22.14 | {xmb} | i see |
| 07:22.20 | SimonRaven | because maybe i like stability for some machines... |
| 07:22.24 | [MA]MTM84|X| | heh |
| 07:23.02 | {xmb} | hmm relative stability, cool with knowledge |
| 07:23.04 | SimonRaven | there's more to life than being 'l33t' |
| 07:23.11 | SimonRaven | ;) |
| 07:23.25 | {xmb} | yea, not being 'l33t' but l33t |
| 07:23.27 | [MA]MTM84|X| | my 9600 was going fine unpatched from a woody install i think... 441 days uptime (not that is saw THAT much use but still) then it just bombed on me when i was trying to do apt-get update the other day |
| 07:23.53 | SimonRaven | eh, ow. :( |
| 07:23.55 | {xmb} | oh simon could u run a partition recognize script over HFS+ ? havent implented it yet correctly cause i dont have a partition to test |
| 07:24.09 | [MA]MTM84|X| | wait, it wasnt woody... oh hell i dont even remember what version i instaleld on it lol |
| 07:24.20 | SimonRaven | no, i'm busy updating said sarge box, and doing other things |
| 07:24.36 | {xmb} | sh script /partition # safe public code soon to be on sourceforge |
| 07:24.44 | {xmb} | xmb.ath.cx/code/fstype.xmb |
| 07:24.55 | {xmb} | but sure if later is ok, ok =p |
| 07:26.19 | [MA]MTM84|X| | oh kick ass! |
| 07:26.33 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ty ty ty :) |
| 07:27.05 | [MA]MTM84|X| | of course now the screen is all wonky cause its not in a resolutiont hat the card likes... |
| 07:27.09 | [MA]MTM84|X| | but i can still see it |
| 07:28.59 | SimonRaven | what's wrong with file -l, anyway? ;) |
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| 07:53.03 | [MA]MTM84|X| | well i was trying to boot from a floppy but i couldnt get that to work. maybe its bad media. i just wanted to boot from a scsi drive so i wouldnt have to zap pram |
| 07:53.44 | SimonRaven | you have to 'bye' to get it to go to the ROM based screen, then it'll seek the floppy, then boot off that |
| 07:54.02 | SimonRaven | ...if it's a good floppy that is ;) |
| 07:54.44 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i see |
| 07:54.55 | [MA]MTM84|X| | how do i know if its not a good floppy :x |
| 07:55.06 | SimonRaven | it won't boot |
| 07:55.21 | SimonRaven | in linux you can run badblocks on it |
| 07:55.42 | [MA]MTM84|X| | well thats to problem i dont have linux on it any more lol |
| 07:55.45 | SimonRaven | mock os's disk copy will reject it too |
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| 08:14.29 | [MA]MTM84|X| | hmmm disk with an x in it not good |
| 08:19.40 | [MA]MTM84|X| | why do floppy drives/disks have to be so fragile wrt binary data writen to them... |
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| 09:23.20 | [MA]MTM84|X| | damn it i just cant get a good floppy to boot with |
| 09:31.16 | sloopy | [MA]MTM84|X|: whats a floppy? |
| 09:33.42 | [MA]MTM84|X| | sloopy: what is insanity? |
| 09:34.32 | sloopy | what makes me happy on a day-to-day basis! :'D |
| 09:35.21 | Bor_Ed | ömmm |
| 09:35.27 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i dont suffer from insanity, i enjoy every miniute of it :) i just wish it was easier to boot an old world mac to linux |
| 09:36.25 | sloopy | i use bootx, i dont reboot my machines enough to make all the trouble of an OF boot worth the trouble... |
| 09:37.13 | [MA]MTM84|X| | yeah but when you need to install it on a clean HD... |
| 09:37.42 | [MA]MTM84|X| | enless im missing something vastly important, which is almost certianlly a likelyhood |
| 09:38.28 | sloopy | then i pull out a mac os 7.5.3, 7.6.1, 8.0, 8.5, 9.0.4, or 9.1 cd and boot/install macos |
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| 09:38.59 | [MA]MTM84|X| | which ive done |
| 10:27.27 | [MA]MTM84|X| | now, i know i can use bootx to boot the debian installer... now what im i going to need to do this? |
| 10:28.29 | [MA]MTM84|X| | im gona run out of goats after this |
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| 10:48.24 | [MA]MTM84|X| | oh crap i forgot what kernel args i need for my graphics card |
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| 11:15.41 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ok, now i can boot the installer app, but the screen is blank, yet i can see the other VTs just fine... |
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| 12:18.12 | [MA]MTM84|X| | woohoo |
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| 12:40.58 | chgtg | hi, all |
| 12:44.08 | chgtg | my result of runing lsmod is snd_powermac 55588 0 |
| 12:44.09 | chgtg | snd_pcm_oss 67360 0 |
| 12:44.48 | chgtg | how to set them? |
| 12:46.03 | [MA]MTM84|X| | set them? |
| 12:46.08 | [MA]MTM84|X| | like, load them? |
| 12:46.26 | chgtg | yes |
| 12:46.38 | chgtg | please help me |
| 12:46.46 | [MA]MTM84|X| | lsmod is a list of the mods that are loaded i thought lol |
| 12:48.34 | chgtg | they are not loaded for their value is zero |
| 12:49.00 | chgtg | so i can't hear anything |
| 12:50.07 | chgtg | what could i do , they can be loaded? |
| 12:50.45 | [MA]MTM84|X| | modprobe snd_powermac ? |
| 12:50.48 | johill | they are loaded |
| 12:50.56 | johill | if the value is 0 it just means no one uses them |
| 12:51.49 | chgtg | O! |
| 12:52.13 | chgtg | then what need i do? |
| 12:54.51 | johill | fix your mixer settings, or something |
| 12:54.57 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i dont know, praying can help :shrug: your question is very vauge lol |
| 12:55.28 | johill | dunno. depends on the hardware. maybe the driver doesn'treally support it |
| 12:55.34 | johill | anyway, good luck, I have to go |
| 12:56.16 | [MA]MTM84|X| | yeah i would love to help but im in the middle of my own install situation right now, so my attention isnt exactly here at the moment |
| 12:57.06 | johill | Q-FUNK would probably know ;) check the debian wiki for your hardware, and the mailing list archives |
| 12:57.09 | chgtg | thank you for your help |
| 12:57.34 | [MA]MTM84|X| | wonders why the frack the installer wouldnt let me switch VTs when i wanted too so i could copy the kernel over to my macos partition... |
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| 13:03.31 | davidw | my pegasos machine is fucked up:-( |
| 13:15.41 | davidw | hrm |
| 13:15.45 | davidw | or perhaps I just fucked up the boot stuff |
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| 13:44.51 | davidw | phew |
| 13:44.56 | davidw | back on line... that was a scare |
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| 14:36.35 | wart | secureboot: Which powerbook? |
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| 16:57.45 | ebw | Hello everybody |
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| 16:58.31 | ebw | I did a sarge install on my ibook (700MHZ G3 maybe ibook2 or dual usb ibook I'm not sure) now I struggle with X |
| 16:58.56 | zweideutig | How is Debian on PPC an IQ test? I've been running it for over a year. |
| 16:59.16 | ebw | Which kernel do I need and which X driver and additional packages do I need to get this working? |
| 16:59.51 | zweideutig | ebw: Find out what video you have. |
| 17:00.10 | zweideutig | ebw: Kernel 2.6.12 is good. Compile it yourself with what you need. |
| 17:00.29 | ebw | lspci says I have radeon M7 |
| 17:00.53 | Bor_Ed | x-window-system-core will do and sarge stock 2.6 kernel will do |
| 17:00.55 | zweideutig | Then configure X11 for that. |
| 17:01.05 | Bor_Ed | the chip uses 'radeon' driver |
| 17:01.13 | zweideutig | Right. |
| 17:01.24 | zweideutig | Same thing my Mac Mini uses. |
| 17:01.40 | ebw | So I don't have to bother with compiling a new kernel? |
| 17:01.45 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 17:01.58 | ebw | I'll try |
| 17:02.21 | Bor_Ed | you might have to modprobe agpgart before issuing startx command |
| 17:02.52 | ebw | Ok. What about those drm-trunk-daenzer things I read everythere? |
| 17:03.11 | zweideutig | You should recompile. |
| 17:03.20 | zweideutig | To remove support for what you don't have. |
| 17:03.21 | Bor_Ed | that driver is for old xfree86 |
| 17:03.29 | Bor_Ed | not needed on recent X |
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| 17:06.59 | ebw | Hmm, radeon alone didn't do the magic. Maybe I have to give some video= kernel option? |
| 17:07.18 | Bor_Ed | nope, just modprobe the agpgart |
| 17:07.25 | ebw | I did that. |
| 17:07.28 | Bor_Ed | and possibly radeon too |
| 17:07.52 | ebw | Ok I'll test agaein |
| 17:08.01 | ebw | Sorry for bad english |
| 17:08.06 | Bor_Ed | np |
| 17:08.38 | Curalton | maybe see if someone has that model there: http://ppcconfdb.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 17:11.07 | ebw | So I did modprobe agpgart and modprobe radeon, but it still gives a flickering screen, and I have to shutdown blindly. |
| 17:11.16 | ebw | Maybe my monitor configuration is bad? |
| 17:11.40 | ebw | I didn't really know what to answer the configuration tool. 1024x768 should be ok? |
| 17:12.02 | Bor_Ed | most probably wrong monitor conf |
| 17:12.23 | Bor_Ed | 800x600@60Hz works always |
| 17:13.45 | ebw | Could I maybe send you my XF86Config for control ? |
| 17:15.40 | ebw | If I do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 I can't select "radeon" as driver? Is that a serious thing, or shall I simply change XF86Config-4 to radeon afterwards? |
| 17:18.20 | ebw | A dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 didn't even changed the XF86Config-4? What can I do? |
| 17:19.48 | ebw | The place to search for XF86Config-4 is /etc/X11? Is that correct? |
| 17:20.51 | Bor_Ed | read the start of the conf file if you've edited it manually |
| 17:20.57 | Bor_Ed | and it's in /etc/X11 |
| 17:21.48 | ebw | thanks |
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| 17:29.24 | ebw | I did those things, reconfigured xserver-xfree86 (it worked now), changed driver "ati" to "radeon", modprobed radeon |
| 17:29.35 | ebw | but still it is only a flickering screen |
| 17:29.59 | ebw | with monitor conf 800x600@60Hz and 24bit color |
| 17:30.29 | ebw | What could be missing? |
| 17:31.05 | Bor_Ed | hmm, gets a bit tricky... does 'ati' work with the gfx? |
| 17:33.08 | ebw | Excuse me, gfx ? I only have an entry Load "glx" ? |
| 17:33.32 | Bor_Ed | graphics... X in general in this time |
| 17:34.22 | ebw | No, with the ati driver the problem is the same. Can I control whether I have got that radeon driver thing installed? |
| 17:34.40 | ebw | Since it isn't available in the menu of dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 17:35.25 | Bor_Ed | the dpkg only has some standard chips on the list for some reason |
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| 17:44.29 | ed | Hi :) |
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| 17:47.03 | Bor_Ed | lo |
| 17:47.48 | ebw | have to leave maybe back later |
| 17:47.50 | ebw | cu ad all |
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| 21:27.35 | ebw | Hi everybody! |
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| 21:40.49 | Curalton | iptables a mess... mport and multiport are virtually the same, yet multiport refuses port:port2 ranges despite claiming so in the manpage |
| 21:52.02 | [MA]MTM84|X| | maybe you insulted its mother in a past life and it doesnt like you? |
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| 21:54.22 | SimonRaven | Curalton: tried port,port2 or port-port14? |
| 21:54.38 | SimonRaven | [MA]MTM84|X|: what, kinda like "yo' mama"? ;) |
| 21:55.06 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i dont know, it was just a sugestion :shrug: you never know these days |
| 21:55.20 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 21:56.13 | SimonRaven | 'liddul ret rotten hoot' |
| 21:57.28 | [MA]MTM84|X| | something ive always wondered. why does apt-get have or indeed need super cow powers? |
| 21:58.05 | SimonRaven | it's an 'easter egg' thing *shrug* |
| 21:58.23 | SimonRaven | have you tried apt-get moo yet? |
| 21:58.57 | [MA]MTM84|X| | easter eggs arnt supposed to slap you in the face every time you use the app they are in |
| 21:59.01 | [MA]MTM84|X| | no, but i should lol |
| 21:59.12 | SimonRaven | then you'll know why ;) |
| 22:00.07 | [MA]MTM84|X| | as soon as i get my system up and running |
| 22:01.05 | Curalton | port:port2 as in the manpage |
| 22:01.34 | Curalton | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.46 | Curalton | port,port2:port3 doesnt cut it either :S |
| 22:02.53 | SimonRaven | see the topic for #iptables, i have no idea why it would puke unless it's a bug |
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| 22:06.30 | en1gma | omg i cant believe there is a channel for PPC YES! |
| 22:06.39 | [MA]MTM84|X| | lol |
| 22:06.43 | [MA]MTM84|X| | why wouldnt there be? |
| 22:06.48 | en1gma | ive been working on mine for a solid week with little success |
| 22:07.02 | en1gma | i looked for ppc but no luck like this |
| 22:07.15 | en1gma | adding to favs now! |
| 22:07.25 | Curalton | SimonRaven: ah, doh. that happens when you check the manpage on a sid system but try to apply the rules on sarge :) |
| 22:07.25 | SimonRaven | debian's ppc mailing list is good help too |
| 22:07.27 | en1gma | i bet someone here can help me :) |
| 22:07.35 | SimonRaven | Curalton: doh! :) |
| 22:07.37 | [MA]MTM84|X| | always room fro one more lurker ;) |
| 22:07.45 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 22:07.49 | en1gma | we might have a problem im a slacker |
| 22:07.53 | en1gma | :) |
| 22:07.57 | Curalton | so on sarge mport/multiport are totally identical. ah well... |
| 22:08.16 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ah, i love the sound of old scsi drives doing stuff |
| 22:08.17 | SimonRaven | iptables --help ;) |
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| 22:08.54 | Curalton | SimonRaven: --help doesnt list the "extentions" |
| 22:09.14 | SimonRaven | that's why the --help works with various options |
| 22:09.48 | en1gma | ok guys heres my situation. im using 2.6.13.3 im using the ipaq module for my ppc. my ppc = audiovox xv6600 and im on verizon. im trying to use kppp to get me going but all i get is a bunch of trash when trying to connect so far |
| 22:10.12 | SimonRaven | pppoeconf |
| 22:10.23 | en1gma | i use wmodem on the ppc to put pda in modem mode |
| 22:10.57 | en1gma | <SimonRaven> pppoeconf >>>>directed to me? |
| 22:11.26 | SimonRaven | ok. first, wth is 'the ipaq module'? what's an audiovox xv6600? |
| 22:12.03 | en1gma | ipaq module is what loads up in the 'lsmod' screen when i plug pda in by usb |
| 22:12.18 | en1gma | my pda is an audiovox XV6600 |
| 22:12.53 | en1gma | ipaq.h and ipaq.c are in /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/serial |
| 22:12.54 | SimonRaven | oh i see |
| 22:13.17 | en1gma | u compile them after u make an edit that adds the modem device |
| 22:13.34 | en1gma | then modem is recognized (instead of active sync) when pda is connected by usb |
| 22:14.34 | en1gma | i can see my modem in 'lsusb' and i see the module loaded with 'lsmod' i use kppp to config modem and it picks it up |
| 22:14.48 | en1gma | but when i try to connect all i see is a bunch of jibberish |
| 22:14.52 | SimonRaven | ok, what does verizon use, cable, or dsl? and if dsl, do they use pppoX? |
| 22:15.03 | SimonRaven | oh dial-up? |
| 22:15.06 | en1gma | they use wireless broadband |
| 22:15.12 | en1gma | dialup yep |
| 22:15.32 | en1gma | (W)modem stands for wireless |
| 22:15.47 | SimonRaven | you can start with pppconfig, that'll set you up, then you can go tweaking it as need be |
| 22:15.48 | en1gma | do not tell me no one has done this yet |
| 22:16.09 | en1gma | i used pppsetup with no success so far |
| 22:17.54 | en1gma | anyone have any knowledge on this |
| 22:18.42 | en1gma | for the love of god i hope someone can help me through this |
| 22:19.26 | SimonRaven | what's pppsetup. um, it's not hard. just a matter of doing a bit of research. *i've* never used a pda like that, but it's just a matter of telling pppd which device and port settings to use. the ipaq people will have more info. (they have a web site with docs, etc.) |
| 22:19.30 | SimonRaven | just relax |
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| 22:19.42 | en1gma | anyone? |
| 22:20.34 | SimonRaven | REPOST: what's pppsetup. um, it's not hard. just a matter of doing a bit of research. *i've* never used a pda like that, but it's just a matter of telling pppd which device and port settings to use. the ipaq people will have more info. (they have a web site with docs, etc.) |
| 22:21.31 | en1gma | is this channel for putting debian on the ppc or for running debian and connecting to ppc |
| 22:22.16 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i think your mistaking ppc |
| 22:22.30 | en1gma | Uh O |
| 22:22.35 | en1gma | ppc = pocket pc? |
| 22:22.38 | [MA]MTM84|X| | no |
| 22:22.41 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ;) |
| 22:22.41 | en1gma | LOL |
| 22:22.41 | SimonRaven | no, powerpc |
| 22:22.46 | en1gma | omg |
| 22:22.56 | SimonRaven | as in the actual arch |
| 22:23.01 | en1gma | i knew this channel had to be to good to be true |
| 22:23.05 | SimonRaven | (arch == architecture) |
| 22:23.08 | en1gma | omg |
| 22:23.10 | en1gma | :) |
| 22:23.18 | en1gma | sorry guys |
| 22:23.23 | SimonRaven | hehe, np |
| 22:23.29 | [MA]MTM84|X| | people who abreviate pocketpc as ppc make baby jesus cry, sorry |
| 22:23.37 | en1gma | :) |
| 22:23.40 | SimonRaven | they might have a channel. /msg chanserv list *pocket* |
| 22:23.51 | en1gma | well ill let yall be cause this has nuthn to do with that |
| 22:23.52 | SimonRaven | or similar |
| 22:24.10 | en1gma | thanks and cyas and keep up the great work |
| 22:25.16 | en1gma | thanks for this /msg chanserv list *pocket* thats nice didnt even know i could list like that |
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| 22:26.49 | SimonRaven | [MA]MTM84|X|: i have to agree. makes baby penguins cry, too |
| 22:29.18 | [MA]MTM84|X| | pisses me off everytime i see it |
| 22:29.57 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ITS A BLOODY PDA you aholes! |
| 22:30.10 | SimonRaven | i haven't seen it a lot, thankfully, else i would be too. i blame microsoft and intel for the ignorance |
| 22:30.32 | SimonRaven | as if opther arches other than PPC don't exist or something... |
| 22:30.36 | [MA]MTM84|X| | yeah |
| 22:31.31 | [MA]MTM84|X| | oh hell, why cant the installer mount an hfs+ partition |
| 22:31.50 | SimonRaven | woody's, sarge's? |
| 22:32.51 | [MA]MTM84|X| | sarge |
| 22:33.13 | SimonRaven | do it manually |
| 22:33.29 | [MA]MTM84|X| | thats what ive been trying to do lol |
| 22:33.55 | SimonRaven | oh, heh. did you fetch the hfs installer module? |
| 22:34.07 | [MA]MTM84|X| | probably not :x |
| 22:34.14 | SimonRaven | "download installer components" |
| 22:34.22 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ok |
| 22:35.02 | [MA]MTM84|X| | it is |
| 22:35.30 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 22:35.41 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ok theres hfs-modules-2.6.8-powerpc-di does that have hfs+ as well? |
| 22:35.51 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 22:36.09 | [MA]MTM84|X| | kk |
| 22:37.17 | Curalton | too bad you never have to reinstall debian, makes you loose touch with the funky new installers :) |
| 22:37.30 | SimonRaven | indeed |
| 22:37.42 | SimonRaven | i haven't reinstalled a machine in years |
| 22:38.01 | [MA]MTM84|X| | huh now why does it say that drive has 7 partitions... |
| 22:38.38 | SimonRaven | just once 'cause i couldn't figure out the circular deps i was getting on a potato->woody transition |
| 22:40.25 | [MA]MTM84|X| | this shouldnt be this hard, i set up gentoo on an ibook and that went almost flawlessly ;_; i guess it helps when you can boot from a CD... |
| 22:40.32 | SimonRaven | yup |
| 22:40.47 | Curalton | heh, my ibooks cdrom is also b0rked :/ |
| 22:42.24 | [MA]MTM84|X| | oh my ibook's CD is fine, its my 9600s unablity to boot non apple system CDs thats a problem ;) |
| 22:43.21 | Curalton | ah, oldworld or whatnot |
| 22:43.40 | Curalton | i wonder where one can get ibook2 cdroms nowadays |
| 22:44.09 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ebay :shrug: |
| 22:44.54 | Curalton | ah, from these cuttroats.. :S |
| 22:45.14 | [MA]MTM84|X| | bah why the hell cant the installer system use /dev/sd* ... |
| 22:45.16 | [MA]MTM84|X| | haha |
| 22:47.10 | sloopy | Curalton: i was looking for an osx 10.2.x cd and someone gave me a restore cd for a ibook once... was real useful on a B&W :'/ |
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| 22:50.01 | Curalton | these disks are so hardware-hardcoded? |
| 22:50.20 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ok is there a partition app outside the installer that i could use to check partition tables? |
| 22:50.33 | Curalton | fdisk -l /dev/bla |
| 22:50.38 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ok |
| 22:50.41 | sloopy | told me they wouldnt work on this machine... |
| 22:50.55 | SimonRaven | [MA]MTM84|X|: because it's devfs. /dev/scsi/ |
| 22:51.12 | SimonRaven | mac-fdisk /dev/scsi/<tab> |
| 22:51.21 | [MA]MTM84|X| | simon: i know, it just means i hvae to dig 3-4 more dirs |
| 22:51.52 | SimonRaven | the installer shell in vt2 groks tab completion |
| 22:52.02 | [MA]MTM84|X| | cool |
| 23:00.47 | Curalton | gee, all the g3 drivers are quite expensive and never wit guarantee to work :S |
| 23:05.59 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i really shouldnt even install this stuff till my g3 upgrade gets here, but whatever |
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