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| 00:22.03 | [MA]MTM84|X| | so how would i set up a kernel config file to not need an initrd image? |
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| 00:36.26 | [MA]MTM84|X| | heya ed |
| 00:43.07 | pahartik | [MA]MTM84|X|: easily |
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| 03:39.37 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ok what happend to my fsck.hfsplus and why did it decide to disapear? |
| 03:46.39 | SimonRaven | it doesn't like you? ;p |
| 03:46.54 | [MA]MTM84|X| | indeed |
| 03:47.45 | [MA]MTM84|X| | my hfs+ partion was somehow uncleanly mounted and wont mount in rw now |
| 03:49.58 | SimonRaven | often the only way to fix that was to boot from it ... blah |
| 03:53.24 | [MA]MTM84|X| | lets see if that does the trick |
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| 04:01.12 | [MA]MTM84|X| | ok so is there a reason i would want to use an initrd over not using one? |
| 04:05.24 | SimonRaven | netboot, raid /, a few other rare cases |
| 04:06.21 | [MA]MTM84|X| | so how do i make a kernel that doesnt need one? |
| 04:06.50 | SimonRaven | don't use --initrd with make-kpkg and remove support for it |
| 04:07.10 | [MA]MTM84|X| | and thats a no joy on the booting to mac os fixing the HD... |
| 04:07.15 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i see |
| 04:17.01 | [MA]MTM84|X| | damn it |
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| 04:27.43 | [MA]MTM84|X| | it shouldnt be this hard to use a friggin hfs+ partition |
| 04:28.22 | SimonRaven | no, but they are a big PITA sometimes. |
| 04:28.46 | [MA]MTM84|X| | yeah |
| 04:29.20 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i hear the linux driver sets a bit on the drive thats hard to get rid of |
| 04:29.38 | [MA]MTM84|X| | except hpmount is supposed to clear the bit most the time |
| 04:30.13 | [MA]MTM84|X| | and i still dont know why os9 wont recognize my fat32 partition |
| 04:30.22 | SimonRaven | oh yeh, that's true. i'd forgotten about that |
| 04:30.41 | SimonRaven | good question. it does grok fat16/32 |
| 04:31.12 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i even made it the first partition of the first disk (after the partition map and all that stuff) |
| 04:32.10 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i know ive stuck fat32 drives into other mac boxes and os9 read them fine. course that was IDE and not scsi but it shouldnt matter |
| 04:39.06 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i dont get why this isnt working |
| 04:39.19 | [MA]MTM84|X| | it boots up os9 fine |
| 04:39.53 | SimonRaven | mark it as mountable at boot? (run disk copy or something) |
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| 05:27.15 | [MA]MTM84|X| | i have no idea why my mac os partition wont mount |
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| 05:47.47 | [MA]MTM84|X| | might be a problem with my kernel... |
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| 13:08.29 | chgtg | Fan in my iBook works more frequently in the debian than mac os x under the same environment! |
| 13:08.44 | chgtg | and how are yours? |
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| 16:11.27 | meheren | hi |
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| 16:12.55 | mirak | meheren: hi |
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| 16:19.23 | wcstok | can anyone point me to a howto for netbooting an oldworld mac with 3.1r0a |
| 16:20.39 | sloopy | netboot on OW? now that is serious masochisim... |
| 16:21.23 | meheren | above my head |
| 16:21.26 | wcstok | worked nicely with netbsd, in debian I'm not sure what to have it snag from the tftp server..I tried the vmlinux file and the machine just keeps cycling grabbing that file over and over again |
| 16:21.43 | wcstok | which, while entertaining, does get old after a bit |
| 16:22.06 | sloopy | yeah would tend to limit the machines capabilities... |
| 16:23.12 | wcstok | the only doc I've found says to use yaboot for newworld macs (which is 100% useless to me), not a peep on what to do for an oldworld |
| 16:24.42 | sloopy | generally this isnt done... so the howto would best be written by someone who is learning how to do it... ;') |
| 16:25.22 | wart | I had successfully installed sarge on oldworld powerbook. Had no problems, but I booted it from MacOS :) |
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| 16:31.11 | sloopy | heh yeah i have two working ow... |
| 16:32.30 | meheren | what does ow stand for? |
| 16:32.38 | wart | oldworld |
| 16:32.41 | wcstok | ow my head hurts |
| 16:32.47 | meheren | lol |
| 16:32.59 | meheren | :-D |
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| 18:59.29 | debian_geek | hi |
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| 19:00.21 | debian_geek | bye lol my mom is calling me to get off computer |
| 19:00.36 | meheren | cya lol...!*JOKINGLY* |
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| 19:05.39 | meheren | is there a way to boot debian from a cd and not just boot the install cd? |
| 19:07.19 | meheren | can you boot debian form a cd not just boot an install cd? |
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| 19:35.24 | meheren | does any1 no if you can boot debian from a cd and not just the install cd? |
| 19:36.08 | meheren | a have only got the network install cd i was wondering if i could boot as if the cd drive itself was the hard drive im booting from |
| 19:36.34 | meheren | and not just boot an install cd |
| 19:36.36 | meheren | lol |
| 19:37.44 | wcstok | you can boot that cd sure, just when it starts the installer, switch to a different vt and chroot into your hd installation...not sure what you're trying to do |
| 19:37.54 | meheren | ***wcstok:lol |
| 19:39.38 | meheren | im trying to send the files of my hard drive to my other computer |
| 19:40.36 | meheren | witch is oldwordl mac and has only 1 hard drive spot |
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| 19:42.07 | meheren | ok thx |
| 19:42.23 | wcstok | so where are you putting the hd, and which hd are you moving, and what machine are you booting with both hds in it |
| 19:43.18 | meheren | g3 blue and white yosimite |
| 19:43.55 | wcstok | why not just boot off that machine |
| 19:44.12 | wcstok | off that machine's hd that is |
| 19:44.16 | meheren | i have a large hard drive with mac os 7.6 installed and a hard drive with a curropt os |
| 19:44.32 | meheren | i don't have anything to boot for the g3 |
| 19:44.35 | wcstok | k good reason |
| 19:45.41 | wcstok | boot the cd, chroot into the hd, loads of fun |
| 19:45.58 | meheren | the install cd? |
| 19:46.07 | wcstok | sure |
| 19:46.41 | meheren | then how im i suppost to exchage files? |
| 19:46.54 | meheren | form hard drive 1 to hard drive 2 |
| 19:47.00 | wcstok | beats me, are both drives readable under linux |
| 19:47.15 | meheren | yeh |
| 19:47.36 | wcstok | once you boot the cd, mount the hds manually |
| 19:47.47 | meheren | ok |
| 19:48.08 | wcstok | chroot (this is to give access to the full linux system instead of the minimal system provided by the installer), then you're in a mostly working linux environment |
| 19:48.42 | meheren | chroot? |
| 19:49.06 | meheren | what does the ch stand for? |
| 19:49.23 | wcstok | change |
| 19:49.54 | meheren | ok sry how do you do that? |
| 19:50.28 | wcstok | mount /dev/whatever /newroot; mount /dev/otherwhatever /newroot/otherwhatever; chroot /newroot |
| 19:50.36 | wcstok | may want to mount /proc at some point too |
| 19:51.55 | meheren | thx |
| 19:52.52 | meheren | whatever? what should i put there? |
| 19:53.44 | wcstok | the device you want to mount as the new root partition |
| 19:53.58 | wcstok | probably /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2 or something |
| 19:54.05 | meheren | oh ok |
| 19:54.34 | meheren | ok done that |
| 19:55.04 | meheren | now what |
| 19:55.13 | wcstok | now you should be able to view files in your new root partition |
| 19:55.23 | meheren | ok then somehting went wrong |
| 19:55.31 | wcstok | then the mount should have errored |
| 19:55.38 | meheren | hmm.. |
| 19:55.45 | meheren | try again |
| 19:55.48 | wcstok | ls /newroot whats it do |
| 19:56.16 | meheren | nothing |
| 19:56.30 | wcstok | did you have any empty partitions |
| 19:56.35 | meheren | yes |
| 19:56.43 | meheren | it's small though |
| 19:56.46 | wcstok | that's probably one of em, mount a differnet one |
| 19:57.24 | meheren | ok |
| 19:58.35 | meheren | it says unnown or corrupt filesystem? |
| 19:58.47 | wcstok | keep going |
| 19:59.00 | wcstok | probably some apple bootstrap or swap partition |
| 19:59.11 | meheren | ok |
| 19:59.21 | meheren | says no file found |
| 19:59.36 | meheren | keep going? |
| 19:59.42 | wcstok | what did you try |
| 20:00.23 | meheren | mount/dev/hda4/newroot |
| 20:00.48 | wcstok | missing some spaces there |
| 20:01.00 | meheren | it's not finding anymore after 3 |
| 20:01.14 | meheren | and the first 3 it doesn't reconize |
| 20:01.29 | wcstok | fdisk -l should give you the list of partitions |
| 20:02.22 | meheren | have i lost my drive or sumthing??? |
| 20:02.28 | meheren | arrgg that would be anoying |
| 20:02.47 | meheren | fdisck says corrupt or unnown file system |
| 20:02.50 | wcstok | could be just looking in the wrong place, could be not readable under linux |
| 20:03.02 | wcstok | or could be totally borked |
| 20:03.03 | meheren | i guess that is possible |
| 20:03.08 | meheren | i hope not |
| 20:04.13 | meheren | well i guess ill install debian on the free space i have |
| 20:04.19 | meheren | how much room does debian need? |
| 20:04.34 | meheren | i only have 18mb free |
| 20:05.10 | wcstok | probably more than that |
| 20:05.32 | wcstok | what is on the computer you're running now |
| 20:06.19 | meheren | im running a windows |
| 20:06.26 | meheren | laptop |
| 20:07.23 | meheren | only 1 hd port |
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| 20:07.40 | wart | 18mb.. Well, you could fit Debian on 18mb. |
| 20:07.47 | meheren | ok |
| 20:08.20 | wart | Take debian-installer CD, find initrd.gz, mount it somewhere, copy on your 18mb parition, and here you go. |
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