| 00:23.36 | Grackle` | Muahahaha. |
| 00:23.44 | Grackle` | Yellow dog is installing, w00t. |
| 00:24.12 | Grackle` | Net installs allow me to be a more efficient OS whore. |
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| 05:27.23 | comar_ | Hi! help on g4 windtunnel. Is it possible to control the Fan speed manually ? |
| 05:28.19 | comar_ | SimonRaven ? |
| 05:28.48 | SimonRaven | probably. dunno how |
| 05:30.58 | comar_ | it was also a "hello" :) |
| 05:33.55 | SimonRaven | hi :) |
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| 08:32.32 | uzi | svenl_: hey |
| 08:42.09 | svenl | hi uzi. |
| 08:51.21 | uzi | just thought I'd introduce myself here... |
| 08:58.33 | uzi | svenl: at any rate, I'll grab that 2.6.12 kernel and install it tommorow |
| 08:59.05 | uzi | so thanks... we'll be in touch... bedtime for me |
| 08:59.55 | svenl | uzi: ok. |
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| 13:29.08 | mp | I just installed Debian Sarge on my PowerBook G4, upgraded to sarge and wonder how to use my touchpad and some other hardware now. |
| 13:29.23 | mp | The framebuffer device is pretty impressive, but some GUI would be nice... ;) |
| 13:29.28 | dj-death | sarge upgraded to sarge ? |
| 13:29.40 | mp | erm... upgraded to etch - pardon |
| 13:29.52 | dj-death | apt-get install gnome-desktop |
| 13:30.15 | dj-death | apt-get install gdm |
| 13:30.22 | dj-death | would be enough |
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| 13:32.57 | mp | dj-death: I got xfree86-xorg up and running but my synaptic touchpad doesn't work and I wonder if there is a way to use my airport extreme... *mmmh* |
| 13:33.28 | mp | neither /dev/input/mice nor /dev/input/psaux work. |
| 13:34.06 | johill | mp: is it a post-feb '05 one? if so you need appletouch |
| 13:34.21 | mp | mmmh... post-feb 05 - I think so, yes. |
| 13:34.56 | johill | http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/PowerBook |
| 13:35.02 | johill | should have about all you need to know ;) |
| 13:35.12 | johill | if there's something missing let me know |
| 13:37.15 | mp | *reading* |
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| 16:00.10 | sktrdie | did anybody here get banshee working |
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| 16:28.55 | bla | hi |
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| 17:59.03 | pahartik | for some reason, when waking up from sleep, "CapsLock" LED of my iBook G4 got stuck on inverted state |
| 18:02.17 | sktrdie | did anybody here get banshee working |
| 18:02.19 | sktrdie | ? |
| 18:02.19 | pahartik | i do not touch "CapsLock" unless by accident... never happened before, maybe latest kernel caused it... though it is otherwise stable, just somewhat sticky at times |
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| 19:30.30 | dj-death | yeah |
| 19:30.34 | dj-death | quake3 compiling ;) |
| 19:38.42 | sktrdie | ? |
| 19:38.46 | sktrdie | did anybody here get banshee working? |
| 19:49.16 | dj-death | woow |
| 19:49.19 | dj-death | quake3 works ;) |
| 19:51.44 | sktrdie | really? |
| 19:51.46 | sktrdie | nice lol |
| 19:51.52 | sktrdie | on what machine? |
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| 19:55.51 | dj-death | sktrdie: ibook G4 |
| 19:55.55 | dj-death | really impressive |
| 19:56.04 | dj-death | it's faster than macosx |
| 19:56.16 | dj-death | compiled with gcc4 |
| 19:56.39 | dj-death | sound is a little retarded |
| 19:56.46 | dj-death | but it's great |
| 19:56.51 | sktrdie | really? |
| 19:56.57 | sktrdie | but you have 3d acceleartion? |
| 19:57.00 | sktrdie | thats why |
| 19:57.02 | sktrdie | I have nvidia :( |
| 19:57.13 | dj-death | radeon 9200 |
| 19:57.32 | dj-death | 70/90fps on q3dm17 |
| 19:57.55 | sktrdie | atis are good |
| 19:57.56 | sktrdie | on ppc |
| 19:58.07 | sktrdie | but Im thinking of switching to x86 maybe |
| 19:58.42 | dj-death | anyway you will have an x86 |
| 19:58.50 | dj-death | apple is switching too |
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| 19:59.29 | sktrdie | yea |
| 19:59.35 | sktrdie | but I can still go for ppc |
| 19:59.37 | sktrdie | with pegasos |
| 19:59.52 | joh | Anyone gotten gentoo's MOL package (0.9.71_pre4) to build on debian (ubuntu)? |
| 20:00.02 | dj-death | pegasos ... |
| 20:00.12 | dj-death | too expensive |
| 20:00.35 | sktrdie | its gonna go down |
| 20:00.41 | sktrdie | and many powerpc companies are coming out |
| 20:00.54 | sktrdie | if Apple is now what it is, it's also thanks to powerpc |
| 20:00.59 | joh | For some reason, there's no make target for tun.c :\ make[5]: *** No rule to make target `/home/joh/src/mol/mol-0.9.71_pre4/obj-ppc/build/src/netdriver/tun.c' |
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| 20:02.25 | dj-death | sktrdie: what do you mean by "coming out" ? |
| 20:02.42 | dj-death | sktrdie: companies switching to ppc ? or to x86 ? |
| 20:07.41 | sktrdie | dj-death: companies wanting to use PPC instead of x86 |
| 20:07.47 | sktrdie | because of many resopns |
| 20:07.48 | dj-death | hmm |
| 20:07.49 | dj-death | ok |
| 20:07.55 | sktrdie | as you know PPC is a very flexible architecture |
| 20:08.09 | dj-death | I dont know much about ppc |
| 20:08.20 | sktrdie | well me neither |
| 20:08.24 | sktrdie | but I know its good |
| 20:08.30 | dj-death | heh |
| 20:09.00 | dj-death | playing quake3 on linux ppc is good |
| 20:09.19 | sktrdie | it goes smooth? |
| 20:09.19 | dj-death | now I can remove the macosx part |
| 20:09.26 | dj-death | smooth ? |
| 20:24.40 | sktrdie | do you use banshee |
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| 22:59.51 | meheren | any1 no where to get the debian server iso network install? |
| 23:01.43 | meheren | any1 no where to get the debian server iso netwok install? |
| 23:04.27 | wcstok | from the debian ftp site? |
| 23:04.34 | meheren | or anywhere |
| 23:04.38 | wcstok | (or any of dozens of mirrors) |
| 23:06.00 | meheren | yeh |
| 23:06.09 | meheren | all i want to no is anyplace to get it |
| 23:06.39 | meheren | ive been to the debian site and the mirros but i can't find the server iso all i can find is the operating system iso |
| 23:07.13 | wcstok | ok well you lost me |
| 23:08.19 | meheren | do you no where i can get it from anywhere |
| 23:08.36 | meheren | just like get it so i can install it on my mac |
| 23:12.04 | wcstok | if you want debian on your mac, install the isos you've found at the debian mirror sites |
| 23:12.30 | meheren | i want a debian server |
| 23:12.47 | wcstok | what exactly do you think this "debian server" thing is |
| 23:13.05 | wcstok | this isn't windows, there's no debian home edition, debian professional, and debian server edition |
| 23:13.26 | meheren | so if i install debian i can use it as a server? |
| 23:13.50 | meheren | (like mac has operating system x and operating system x server) |
| 23:16.35 | wcstok | debian is an os around the linux kernel, which is a clone of unix, which was built for the purpose of being ga server...so...yes, if you really really really want to you could use the os as a server |
| 23:16.56 | meheren | ok |
| 23:17.23 | meheren | in the install do i have to do anything different or just install as if i was installing it for home use |
| 23:17.41 | wcstok | ... |
| 23:17.51 | wcstok | what are you defining as a "server" |
| 23:18.28 | meheren | well a computer i will use to host a web page and to host my e-mail accounts |
| 23:19.06 | wcstok | any computer can do that, even the so-called home edition variants of windows |
| 23:19.20 | meheren | no they can't |
| 23:19.36 | wcstok | sure they can |
| 23:19.43 | meheren | trust me i have 1 and microsoft refuses 2 |
| 23:20.13 | wcstok | the os does not matter, it's all in what you're running...windows can run iis or apache or other webserver, and if you really wanted to you could run an email server on it |
| 23:20.17 | meheren | well im never bying anether windows anyway |
| 23:20.32 | meheren | so that doesn't matter |
| 23:20.32 | wcstok | debian, and any other os, is no different in that respect |
| 23:20.36 | meheren | ok |
| 23:20.51 | meheren | could you explain how exactly i would do that? |
| 23:22.28 | wcstok | do what |
| 23:22.40 | meheren | host email serverr |
| 23:22.46 | meheren | i no how to host web |
| 23:22.49 | wcstok | install the os first |
| 23:23.06 | meheren | long sinse done |
| 23:23.09 | meheren | since |
| 23:23.09 | wcstok | some mta will be installed (sendmail, exim, qmail...whatever you pick), config it |
| 23:23.52 | meheren | ok in what way |
| 23:25.56 | wcstok | to do what you want it to, read the docs |
| 23:26.15 | meheren | whatever |
| 23:31.24 | Grackle` | I keep getting the error "INIT: Id "1" respawning too fast, suspending for 5 minutes" during boot. :X |
| 23:31.45 | Grackle` | This was after a net install of the 2.4 kernel on my beige G3... |
| 23:31.55 | Grackle` | Does anyone know how to fix it? |
| 23:32.42 | meheren | nope sry im noobie |
| 23:36.14 | SimonRaven | Grackle`: does /dev/pts exist? how about /dev/tty*? |
| 23:38.21 | Grackle` | How can I tell? |
| 23:38.46 | Grackle` | Boot back into the installer? |
| 23:38.50 | SimonRaven | with ls |
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| 23:39.38 | SimonRaven | eh, that's using devfs... should be creating those if it's enabled |
| 23:40.10 | Grackle` | Yes, they exist. |
| 23:40.31 | SimonRaven | there goes that theory |
| 23:40.50 | SimonRaven | seen that kind of thing, when udev wasn't creating ttys ... |
| 23:41.05 | SimonRaven | stupidest thing i ever saw |
| 23:41.12 | Grackle` | Lemme boot again and check to see what it was trying to do... |
| 23:41.29 | SimonRaven | did you see /dev/tty? |
| 23:41.37 | Grackle` | yes I did |
| 23:41.40 | SimonRaven | hey, id 1 *is* init. doh! |
| 23:42.02 | Grackle` | :| |
| 23:42.17 | SimonRaven | could you paste your /etc/inittab in #flood or use paster |
| 23:42.17 | Grackle` | Is there anything I can do about it? |
| 23:42.26 | SimonRaven | /whois paster |
| 23:42.36 | *** mode/#DebianPPC [+o SimonRaven] by ChanServ |
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| 23:42.50 | *** mode/#DebianPPC [-o SimonRaven] by SimonRaven |
| 23:44.32 | SimonRaven | @paster |
| 23:44.51 | SimonRaven | @paster |
| 23:44.52 | ravenbird | Instead of pasting in #debianppc or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste select #debianppc, and paste away. |
| 23:45.08 | Grackle` | ok |
| 23:45.16 | Grackle` | I need to boot first... |
| 23:45.52 | SimonRaven | paster just spits out your IP, summary, and URI |
| 23:46.08 | SimonRaven | summary and URI of the paste =) |
| 23:50.42 | Grackle` | Oh gah, I just realized I'm typing out the wrong file... Bleh. hang on :P |
| 23:51.07 | SimonRaven | oops. oh you're typing it? :| |
| 23:51.49 | Grackle` | That's the only way... |
| 23:51.58 | SimonRaven | no gpm? |
| 23:52.01 | SimonRaven | =) |
| 23:52.03 | Grackle` | gpm? |
| 23:52.07 | Grackle` | :-/ |
| 23:52.13 | SimonRaven | @gpm |
| 23:52.13 | ravenbird | if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=msc in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol MouseSystems; seems to work in XF4 too or (see http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom?file=45 also), or try with repeat_type=ms3 and X using Intellimouse, or ask for "elf gpm" |
| 23:52.30 | SimonRaven | bah ignore that. it's mouse for console |
| 23:52.54 | Grackle` | How do I mount the ide drive? |
| 23:53.05 | Grackle` | I booted off the install image... |
| 23:53.11 | SimonRaven | sarge? |
| 23:53.39 | Grackle` | Umm, yes I think so... |
| 23:54.18 | SimonRaven | ok, what floppy did you boot from, boot.bin, or boot-hfs ? |
| 23:54.41 | Grackle` | I used bootx to boot the 2.4 kernel for a net install. |
| 23:54.54 | SimonRaven | or, which uri did you fetch it from? |
| 23:54.59 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 23:55.23 | SimonRaven | Grackle`: oh 2.4, never mind. sarge |
| 23:55.42 | SimonRaven | woody was 2.2 |
| 23:55.53 | SimonRaven | the floppies anyway |
| 23:56.36 | SimonRaven | Grackle`: ok, did you do the hardware detection yet? if you didn't you won't be able to mount anything |
| 23:58.01 | Grackle` | From here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/powerpc/other/powerpc/netboot/2.4/ |
| 23:58.08 | SimonRaven | you know you can start an ssh session to continue the install :). really neat on a headless box |
| 23:58.49 | Grackle` | Well this box is pretty feckless right now, I just have it up so I can chat on irc while I install. I can't ssh or anything... |
| 23:59.02 | Grackle` | Well, I suppose I could. I need software first. |
| 23:59.36 | SimonRaven | yeh, sarge. oh netboot? why the netboot? |